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7541  Other / Meta / Re: Top 20 members with Post to Merit Ratio. on: December 24, 2018, 08:40:24 PM


I have to disagree to your point, it's a valid reason for someone not to get merit for the quality or the actual content of their posts, English on the other hand is not a scale for post quality by any means. nobody is obligated to speak perfect English unless they are getting paid to do exactly that. Many of us here "including myself" speak a poor to average English, as long as one can deliver their point, that alone should be enough.

7542  Other / Meta / Re: Top 20 members with Post to Merit Ratio. on: December 24, 2018, 05:59:22 PM


thanks

Even so, if you want to just focus on merited profiles, then you should really be using @Piggy’s other public DB, updated weekly, and located on this thread: Tool to run online SQL queries over Full Merit Data. That dataset has both a user table (merited and meriters) and a merit table will all the historical merit TXs. There you can join the profile and merit tables to perform merit analysis.

exactly what i needed , with these 2 tables you can't go wrong. btw it is amazing how Piggy manages to retrieve this amount of data on the weekly. Shocked

 -----------------------------------------

i am wondering what should i rename this topic to ? Grin
7543  Other / Meta / Re: The most IMPORTANT post you will read this week. Let's get off this path now... on: December 24, 2018, 05:43:35 PM


 i took the time and effort to try and help you out by giving you a free advice and now you are worried about the merit i got for that post ( for everyone who gave me the merit please remove them now ).

I am not obligated to prove the non-existence of something that you have within your thoughts, it is you who has to prove the opposite.

i did not read the long reply of yours, but I skimmed through some of the points and i see a lot of contradictions.

1- you talk about PAID2POST BUT you are wearing a signature

2- you talk about merit and you are pre-merited too, there a dozen of other members who earned more merits than you and many other legendary members and are still way far from your rank, so should i start a thread demanding all the airdropped merits to be deleted?  will you stand at a better position by then?  does it even matter?

3- you mention a lot about free speech, and you are getting exactly that, you made a dozen of topics regarding your thoughts, non was deleted ( non that i am aware of) and you pretty much saying everything you want to say. how much more of freedom are you looking for ?

The only valid case that you have( IMO) is the negative trust you got from marlboroza, and i would also agree that marlboroza and suchmoon should not even leave you a neutral trust with such feedback as i strongly believe that trust rating is only meant for trading related subject and nothing else.

so if you would narrow down your list of demands to only that, i will be first to support you as am sure many others will, but as far as the "gang" thing goes i will just have to wish you luck.


7544  Other / Meta / Re: Top 20 members with Post to Merit Ratio. on: December 24, 2018, 04:54:22 PM
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We really have to be careful using data to retrieve useful close to truthful information. What you have done is divide personal total merit by number of posts, and that is conceptually wrong on two account:

-   The merit column represents the profiles total merit, including airdropped merit (not just earned merit).
-   Posts accounts for all the posting history (not narrowed down to Merit era or more recent).


everyone who registered before the merit system got the airdropped merit, so i thought comparing those who got the airdropped merit to one another is not wrong since they all had the same base record based on their activities/post by then. so eventually that should takes out the airdropped merit out of calculation, at least mathematically speaking.but this will be unfair to those who did not witness the airdrop, so you are right, the data we have now is far from accurate to be treated the way i treated it, seems like the vast majority of the best merit ratio members are only at their rank simply because they got the airdrop merit and never really posted after or before that, which brings their post count close to nothing allowing them to be on the top list. maybe the airdropped merits should have been given in a better form. take a look at this guy for insanse > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=957841 . got 100 merit airdropped with only 12 posts.

but you have a valid point in this, for this to be a more accurate representation of post quality , we need to count only the earned merits. in which case a few unknown members have some very good ratio.

I will be looking at your analysis along side with LoyceV's , thanks for the input.




This thread lists the anomalies who did something weird, not the ones who actually earned that much Merit for real posts. Even worse: it includes the airdropped Merit, which wasn't earned at all.

If you get me a list of userIDs, I can list them in the format as below.


ya i have no clue why i ended up posting the abnormal and weird accounts, but honestly that's the db has, most of the top 100 members i got after taking the merit to post ratio into count were some crazy shit and merit abused, but mathematically speaking, there is nothing wrong with the list  Grin , most other top merited people had their airdropped merits too, so that alone is not the main cause for this terrible report, the main reason is that most of those people stopped posting after they got the the pre merit,which made their ratio far too good to be true.

the query was nothing fancy really, just a simple straight forward
 
 
Code:
select username , (merit/posts) from table order by (meriy/posts) desc limit 20 


i would like to see you run the data on those, as for now i have no clue how to get the earned merits only as it's not on piggy's db, are you using some script to pull the data or someone has another db for it?

anyway I will try to give you a list of userIds that have earned the merit with good ratio but for now all i have in hand is the merit count, i will be ignoring fixed numbers such 100,250,500,1000 which i believe those represent the airdroped merit. but that still will require some manual work.

cheers.


it is not impossible, it is not even hard, you get merits you post on boards you are good at, and you can help others. by doing so , you will get merits without even trying. it's true that the merit system is not perfect, but to a very good extent it does represent one's posts's quality. so just focus on what you good at.


 
7545  Other / Meta / Re: Top 20 members with Post to Merit Ratio. on: December 24, 2018, 08:12:47 AM
...

Such calculations are not quite correct:

1. Users simply deleted their posts, and not received merit for 1 post
2. It makes sense to consider the ratio of the earned merit, not the merit, obtained by airdrop

But this is already done in this LoyceV topic:

Percentage of Merit received on old posts, deleted posts, and average per post
  

the link you posted ,  Loycev only took a few examples and compared old to new post's merit.

also if you take this user for example > https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=VeilDango

he has better ratio than satoshi and theymos ( 3.64 merit per new post)

i know the majority of these members are long gone. but a few of them are there around and active, and you will be amazed of the ratio they have compared to other well known members.

I will make a better flirtation " probably after the holiday" that will be more in depth of users who have the most merits compared to their post count.
7546  Other / Meta / Top 20 members with Post to Merit Ratio. on: December 24, 2018, 07:37:52 AM
 
    Using piggy's data which is amazingly pulled of the forum. and just for fun , i wanted to know who has the best Post to Merit ratio ( not sure if should be Merit
     to Post) but you get the point.


    



    while most if not all of these people are simply merit abusers, it surprises me that some of them "checked a few randomly" have not been given any negative trust feedback.


*sorry for the bad data representation, it is the best i have in hand now.

edit* i know most of these users are not longer around, but some are active up to now, and their merit to post ratio is very questionable. and even some of those who are long gone, the people who gave them a dozen of merits for nothing are still around.

here are some random posts appeared from the data with crazy ass merits >

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169466.msg30174930#msg30174930
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg47898171#msg47898171
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3127999.msg32372749#msg32372749
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042266.msg46870695#msg46870695
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042266.msg46870747#msg46870747
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2180877.msg43346652#msg43346652
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=deadsea33   > 90 merits from the same member on the same topic  Roll Eyes
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=TNM1WPCK > same shit

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1180530 > legit , with impressive ratio ( almost 2 merits per post )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2371316 > legit , better than satoshi and theymos performance combined  (5.6 ratio) Grin
 

*when i have more time, i'll try to make a script the pulls every specious merit action, will be using vod's webiste along with piggy's database. if there are any more resources please enlighten me. Grin

Enjoy the holidays.
7547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CANNOT FIND SIGNATURE!!! What's this? on: December 24, 2018, 05:04:29 AM
you do not have to post the same topic all across the forum.

I answered you on the other topic > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088793.msg48853976#msg48853976

please remove this one.

good luck.
7548  Local / إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين / Re: استفسارات عن حجم التداول وعدد العملات الم on: December 24, 2018, 03:56:19 AM
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السلام عليكم: مفهومي لحجم التداول اليومي لعملة رقمية ما مقابل عملة اخرى هو انه مجموع قيمة الصفقات التي تمت خلال فترة 24 ساعة (بيعا او شراء) لهذه العملة مقابل الاخرى فمثلا الان وقت الكتابة اشاهد حجم تداول البتكوين على منصة باينانس مقداره : 213436512 $ ...وهذا معناه انه خلال  24 ساعه تم بيع وشراء بتكوين بما يعادل هذه القيمة بالدولار الامريكي ...بناء على ما سبق لدي العديد من الاسئلة :
1- هل مفهومي المذكور اعلاه صحيح ؟

صحيح

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2- هل ارتفاع حجم التداول اليومي مؤشر (اكيد ) على ارتفاع سعر العملة وانخفاض هذا المعدل مؤشر (اكيد) على انخفاض سعرها ؟
لا وجود لعلاقة مباشرة..في بعض الاحيان انخفاض الفوليوم يعني ضعف الحركة وقروب تصحيح لكن لايوجد اي علاقة مباشرة

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3- هل يمكن ان اعرف عدد البتكوين الذي تم  تداوله خلال هذه الفترة بناء على قراءة الفوليوم هذه؟ اظن هذا صعب جدا لانه  تم البيع والشراء بأسعار متفاوته خلال هذه الفترة وليس بسعر ثابت
نعم يمكنك معرفة حجم التداول بالبتكوين..لكن بلا جدوة

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4- السؤال السابق يولد السؤال الاهم : كيف لي ان اعرف عدد العملات الكلي المتداول (او الغير متداول) للبتكوين او اي عملة اخرى على منصة باينانس مثلا؟ لماذا لا يوجد عداد يتبع المنصات يعطينا قراءة مؤكدة لعدد العملة الموجود على هذه المنصة واقصد هنا العدد الكلي الموجود بمحفضة المنصة او المحافض الخاصة بالمتداولين؟ هل هذا الامر صعب تقنيآ ؟

الامر سهل تقنيا لكن المنصات غير مجبرة بالتصريح عن كمية العملات التي بحوزتها

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5- بالنسبة لحجم التداول هل ايضا يحسب على حسب عدد عمليات البيع والشراء التي تمت  ام  ايضا يعتمد على اوامر البيع والشراء المسبقة الموجودة حاليا على جدول البيع والشراء الخاص بهذه العملة؟ اقصد بهذا السؤال  ان اعرف هل العملات الغير موجودة على الجدول محسوبة ام لأ؟ يعني انا معي بتكوين ولكني لا اريد ان ابيع او اشتري حاليا وربما هناك الكثير مثلي فاذا  كان رصيدي ورصيد الاخرين هذا غير محسوب بحجم التداول اليومي فحجم التداول اليومي ربما لا يكون مؤشرا حقيقيا عن حجم العملة ولهذا نحتاج لمؤشر ادق واقصد هنا العدد الكلي للعملة الموجود ع المنصة عموماهل تتفقون معي في ذلك ؟

الفوليوم هوا ماتم بيعه وشرائه وليس التي لم يدخل في التداول اصلا...كمية العملات على اي منصة لن تفيدك في اي شي على الاطلاق..في بعض الاحيان عند معرفتك بدخول كمية بتكوين كبيرة جدا لمنصة ما..الاحتمال يكون حاجة من الاتنين

اما انه الكمية هدي سيتم طرحها للبيع وسعر البتكوين حينزل
ام الكمية ستسعمل لشراء عملات اخرى

يعني في كل الاحالات لن تستفيد شي...انصحك بعدم التركيز في هدا الموضوع ابدا.. ركز على التشارت والدعم والمقاومة فقط.. تحياتي

7549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: "Cannot find Signature"... What's this? on: December 24, 2018, 03:28:24 AM
this happened because you installed the the latest D3 firmware which has the signature check function which the current blissz you trying to flush doesn't match with.

you have 3 solutions for this, i will start with the easiest.

1- hard reset your miner " not through the web" but with by pressing the reset bottom for 5 seconds

2-find an older/different version of the D3 firmware, flush it, and then flush blissz

3- long story but 100% guaranteed to work.


modify the current firmware on your miner by using putty SSH.

get to the upgrade.cgi file and you will find a  function related to md5 check ,which checks the signature before installing it, you need to either delete it or comment it, if you don't know how to do it,send the code and i'll modify it for you.




*edit > please move your topic to the mining support. you will get more people trying to help there. you can do so by using clicking the "move topic" bottom found on the bottom left side .
7550  Other / Serious discussion / Re: On altcoins announcements on: December 24, 2018, 01:54:43 AM
you will get used to it. it takes time  Grin

also there are better boards on the form if you want quality posts, by going to tha alt ANN topics you will only see what you see, it will forever be this way. so grow a thick skin or find a better board.
7551  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: quantum computing & BTC on: December 24, 2018, 01:45:36 AM
@HeRetiK

OK I learned that public key is not BTC address.

My BTC are stored on a BTC address which has never spent any BTC so I can sleep good at night even if quantum computing arrives.

However, can you derive public key from BTC address with Quantum Computing? I think the answer is no according to what HeRetiK said.

in theory yes, you have to have the public key in order to brute force that private key from the public key.

but with that being said, the current computing power is also capable of doing so. technically you can brute force anything, even with a pen and paper you have a chance above 0% of getting the private key. but it's a merely a question of how hard and how much does it cost.

but in general if someone has the power to crack the private key from a public key, they would probably make more profit mining.

so honestly i do not see any threat coming from quantum computing . btw here is a nice read on the limits of qc >
 
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~robins/The_Limits_of_Quantum_Computers.pdf
7552  Other / Meta / Re: The most IMPORTANT post you will read this week. Let's get off this path now... on: December 24, 2018, 12:50:25 AM
 I supported your case against the negative trust you got from marlboroza and many others did, including  some other DT members who gave you a positive trust as a counter for marlboroza's trust, or at least supported your claim, as it was very obvious that you did not deserve a negative trust just because someone thought you were "trolling" regardless of the fact that you were trolling or not.

and marlboroza removed the negative trust as i see now on your profile, which is probably the result of people standing up to you.

but with that being said , i think you have taken this too far personal, you became so doubtful by implenting the theory of conspiracy in your brain.

I understand that your goal and intention might be so kind and innocent. but you are also over-reacting and accusing some people who may have nothing to do with the gang that you are trying to implement in your own mind.

while i agree with some of the parts you say, and i think everybody knows that

1- some members are probably abusing the trust system.
2- some members are probably abusing the merit system.
3- some members are only here for money.

My grandma never had a computer and she can bet the house on these points.

but in general, it's not as bad as you or any other person would imagine.

I recently joined the forum, and only started to be active last month, i ranked up to full member straight away , got almost 100 merits in a month and i know for sure that i can easily rank up to Legendary member or at least get the merits needed before i had spent a whole year around, because I know i don't shit post and many people find my posts to be helpful.

non of the DT members ever bothered me, in fact i was scammed once and Ognasty helped out in my case and was very responsive, the Mods of the boards where i usually post are very helpful and kind.

there are for sure some bad DT members, some bad Mods, some bad legendary members and indeed some bad in everything in life.

I might be new to this forum , but i would assume i am older than you, and here is my advice, for any thing you type, you either have to enjoy it or, make money of it. so if you are enjoying launching this war ( apparently you ain't getting paid) i suggest you start it a step by step, take one person at the time, provide whatever proof you have against their actions.

there is no point of deploying a war against a dozen of a mysterious gang that may not exist in the first place.
7553  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTB bitmain coupons face value 75$ and above! on: December 24, 2018, 12:18:46 AM
bump
7554  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My former boss asked me how can crypto tech can help him on: December 24, 2018, 12:08:48 AM
He's head of IT in a big company (Energy Industry), "B", and I'm in company "C". We met 3 years ago in company "A" which was also a huge energy company.

In his scope there are internal financial apps, I suppose they are doing more or less doing the same thing as in company A, meaning:

  • Manage bills of expenses / expense accounts
  • Manage and monitor corporate budgets (by departement / or projects / or directors)
  • Manage workflow of validation processes for corporate investments
  • Manage property portfolio of the group

He said "hey I remember you were into BTC, do you know how these technologies could help my business?" But there is a big difference between holding a couple of btc and alts and being a fintech crypto consultant!

I don't know much about his needs or problem he's trying to solve, we barely talked, he just mentionned the fact "I'd like to innovate"...
So can you guys think of some specific crypto technology or blockchain services designed for companies? Any hint would be welcome.



BTC itself will be of no use to your case " provided i understood you well", maybe invest some of the company holdings into bitcoin ? aside from that i can't think of any possible way that you or your company will benefit from BTC for the time being.

The only thing that you might make use of is the smart contact implemented on ETH or EOS.

you can pretty much implement all the points mentioned in your post on a smart contract, if you have a running app that keeps records of all the data, you can migrate it to a Dapp on the block-chain.


7555  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Bottomed out ? TA analysis. on: December 23, 2018, 11:45:04 PM
One note about the above. Inherently, the value of this indicator analysis (and in fact the same goes for the historical Stoch and Ichimoku comparisons) depends on the long term uptrend continuing. We are essentially assuming "this is a correction to a trend which will continue, and we are reaching historical reversal levels." I think that's a solid analysis, but there is a distinct and perhaps even significant possibility that the overall trend will reverse into a bearish super-cycle. In that case, RSI and Stochs can grind the ground for many months on end during strong downtrending.

yes indeed, we could enter into a very long bearish trend, the RSI and the Stoch themselves are not my favorite indicators at all, i use them as an extra indication just because some other traders do, and many traders rely generally on divergences on those indicators, so when you have the stoch at a very low level,even with price continuing to the downside, the speed will differently has to decrease/slow down and that will show on the RSI ,MACD and the Stoch and will create whatever refer to as a bullish-divergence which many traders count on.

and again this is mind game, you want to try and look at the charts from as many points of view as possible, to hopefully join the crowd by making the same decision as they do , and by crowd i mean the money crowd not the people crowd that usually end up losing.
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I think it's important to emphasize the weekly candle close. There can definitely be a liquidity event that causes a temporary move below the $3,000 support zone. The key is that bulls buy it up quickly and we wick back above support.

Great analysis Mike. It's great to have another analyst on the forum!

indeed focusing on the weekly close as well as the monthly close are always the most important, people place their long term traders on the hour chart and when things go south they blame the whales for manipulating the market when almost all the signs are there.

thanks for the feedback, would be great to see some of your analysis too.

happy holidays.
7556  Other / Meta / Re: Preventing Signature Spammers and Increasing Quality of Discussion on: December 23, 2018, 11:20:10 PM

Again, quantity doesn't matter when we are talking about 25-50 posts buried in spam mega threads. I'm pretty sure that it's safe to say that 99% of those posts in spam mega threads will only be seen by 3-10 people until there are enough posts to go make a new page. Why don't you go check yourself and compare the timestamp of the posts? Just pick a random spam mega thread in the Bitcoin Discussion board.

I'm also 100% sure that there is more audience in those HQ posts made in productive threads than the average shitpost. That's why my current signature campaign (which is the most paying one in the forum) is quite hard to get into (the manager doesn't accept the regular spammer and there are plenty of HQ posters trying to get in but can't because of the limited slots).

BTW, the ads are already targeted because we are in a Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency forum.

are you implying that the majority of the campaign managers do not know their jobs? if this is correct and they have not been getting enough audience then they you have forced some rules and went through every post just like your ad campaign ! , but the fact that they still operate on a daily bases, it only means it's pretty much working for the majority of them.

your case is very different, you are advertising a mixing service, which only a very  few people know about, so it has to be in the high quality area where people actually know what mixing is. the ICO bullshit on the other hand needs to be in other places, noobs who come here to get a lambo next month are the targeted people for the majority of the the ICO / Gambling  " which represent the majority of the ads anyway".

if you were advertising a shit ICO who would you want to read it? theymos or the newbie who joined last night?

I know what you are trying to imply, but this really is not the case here. you are over thinking, you missing the point that in the shit posts sections there are a lot of real noobs who come here looking for the perfect ICO or gambling site and not just a bunch of spammers or bots. and the ads have been working and that's the reason why they are still there. once they stop, then your point is valid.
7557  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: مقترح لتغير حجم الخط في القسم العربي on: December 23, 2018, 11:03:22 PM
بالفعل لا بد من تغيير حجم الخط الافتراضي و قمت بالمشاركة في موضوعك السابق.
لكن للأسف لا يوجد تفاعل كبير من باقي الأعضاء حتى يحضى هذا المقترح باهتمام الادارة.


نعم رايت مشاركتك اخي خالد شكرا للتفاعل.

نعم الخط يظهر صغير جداً لذلك اقوم بتكبير النص او اعمل Zoom لاستطيع قراءة النصوص
تجربة هذا النص بحجم 12 pt


بالنسبة لي اصبحت معتاد على Zoom  Cheesy لا اواجهه مشكلة كبيرة
لكن قد يكون مشكلة لمن تعرف حديثاً على المنتدى
و صراحة صعوبة خاصة بالمواضيع التي تحتوي صور عندما تعمل Zoom بعض الاحيان لا تضبط ويظهر بالاسفل شريط تمرير
+ ان المواضيع تحفظ بقاعدة البيانات بتاقات size فهنا مشكلة سوى عند تجديد المنتدى او من الممكن حتى يأثر على seo

و ماذا عن الشكل العام للمواضيع هل ستكون مناسبة لحجم الخط 12 عند تعميمة ؟

لن يتاتر الشكل العام بتخير الحجم الافتراضي للنصوص..وفي حالة واجهنا اي مشكلة في المستقبل سنطلب تعديلها لكن المهم الان هوا تغير الخط الافتراضي اولا..ارجو منكم التفاعل على المقترح لكي ننتحصل على فرصة اكبر .. بالتوفيق
7558  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Bottomed out ? TA analysis. on: December 23, 2018, 10:57:43 PM
I don't know why people are waiting for that wick below 50MA so much. Usually in such setup when every noob trader is telling you to wait for the capitulation candle with long wick to invest it can never happen because every trader will try to outsmart the others and put orders higher to be sure to catch that wick right below 3000 dollars. It will build an impenetrable wall of orders that in time will go closer towards 3000.

how did you come up to the conclusion that anybody said you should wait for a wick to enter?
7559  Other / Meta / Re: About bitcointalk.org Registration system on: December 23, 2018, 09:54:23 PM


In those link, you can see there are lot's of fake account with 1 activity created for only pick money by doing those tasks.


are you paying them? any forum member is? am i ?  no, no, differently no.

so why bother? let the poor make some money, some people are so desperate for 1-2 $ to put food on the table. if someone is WILLING to pay them for creating an account here or posting some shit somewhere on the internet , why should anyone bother? if you are worried about the content of what you read then learn to visit more informative places, or simply go to the library.

cheers !.
7560  Other / Meta / Re: Merry Christmas to the Forum on: December 23, 2018, 09:36:19 PM
Merry Christmas Smiley

I bet theymos will give some Lambos announce new features

i'll take the Lambos , you keep the features. thanks.

Happy holidays everybody. Grin
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