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761  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Investing vs Trading and why? on: September 30, 2017, 09:11:26 AM
I think hyip investment is very risky. Any time gone to scam. Investment sites are very risky. But more profit. Investment sites give you more profit. But risky. On the other hand you can start crypto trading if you understand trading system. So you can more profitable.

What do you mean by investment sites ? I think it is the same as HYIP sites. They all scam, soon or later. Do not and never invest on those sites. If you want to invest Bitcoin, just buy or collect Bitcoin, and keep it in your wallet for several years. Trading is good if you know the price and the system. Many people use trading to make their way to success. But I do not like trading because it is risky. I prefer mining and keep investing.
762  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I wanna be a bounty hunter. on: September 30, 2017, 09:08:49 AM
You can be bitcoin hunter if you want it and everyone can be

Yes, everyone can be a bounty hunter. You just need to read the requirement for the bounty and start doing. It is easy and just need a little knowledge. You should search in google how many kind of bounty in the forum, and what bounty suit you the most. And then you should read the procedure to join that bounty then you must be patience, because you may join the bounty and you may not. Just keep posting and rank up your account, read a lot and make quality posts. Then the bounty will accept you.
763  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you agree in death penalty? on: September 30, 2017, 06:49:53 AM
In my opinion, i don't agree in death penalty, as to what i believe only God have the right to take a persons life because He is the one gave it to us. As what others say about the rape victims, or those who get killed please bear in mind that there can be others means for them to be punished. Because if its gonna be an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth then all of us would be just like those who rapes and kills, we are all gonna be sinners..

I believe in God. I do not like death penalty too. But some people do not believe and just do not care about God. Some people like that do not care and always do criminality. They have cold blood, and only care for their desire. I do not want to punish people with death, I only want them to repent and follow God. But not all people can believe in God, and they will do whatever they want to do.

Imagine if drug dealers keep selling their poison to people. Many people will die ! But, what if the dealers are punished to death ?
764  Other / Off-topic / Re: What comes to your mind when you think of Japan? on: September 30, 2017, 05:08:54 AM
Anime, of course. I only love Japan because of anime. I do not like their drama and their movie. Also, Japan cannot make a good live action from anime. But they make a lot of nice anime. I like Persona 4, the best JRPG game I have ever play, even though it's from PS2. But there is also P4G that can be played in PSVITA.
765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is long term investment on: September 30, 2017, 01:59:50 AM
OF course ethereum is a good investment it can fall a bit in short term but dont worry whole cyrptocurrency world based on ethereum.i think eth market value get ahead against even bitcoin

First we need to understand that every crypto's price will always go up and the price will increase with time. All cryptocurrencies is good to invest because they just like Bitcoin. Even though not 100% equal. Ethereum is one of crypto that is so popular and profitable at the moment.

But, we must aware that there are crypto that fail to the market and the price will not go up. For example like : Dogecoin. When Bitcoin become popular, Dogecoin is came to the world and become the most popular crypto in the world after Bitcoin. But then, I don't know why Doge's price fall and not going up again. Some say, Doge is just a fun coin and only use to gamble and play game. So we cannot invest in Dogecoin.
766  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Most secure wallet for Bitcoin? on: September 30, 2017, 01:07:40 AM
The person above my thread gave a good answer. The only 100% safe wallet = hardware wallet.
If you are looking for a web wallet then I would recommend myetherwallet

Some say, that hardware wallet is the most secure. But some say that web wallet is easy and free.
First of all, we need to know. What do you mean by the "most secure" wallet ? Secure from what ? Is it from hacker or problems ?
In my opinion, web wallet like blockchain is secure enough. Because you will need a email confirmation if you want to login.
You can setting second password, and phone SMS to login or do transactions. I guess there are a lot way to secure it.
Hardware wallet is not free, if the hardware is broken, what happen to your money ?
767  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people kill for religion? on: September 29, 2017, 11:32:46 PM
Sadly, those are the extremist. They kill in the name of their God. I wonder what kind of God they might have? If their god is blood thirsty then he is not worthy of worship. God must be a god of love, forgiveness, compassion, acceptance and not a killer.
Its not about the god they worship but the twisted belief in the teachings of their religion. You can say they're brainwahsed by higher leaders into doing what they do. Too much faith that they don't seem to search their conscience if what they're doing is right or wrong

That is right. They are brainwashed and filled with crazy ideology, for purpose of politics, money, and power. There is no human who want to kill each other, unless their head is consumed by hate. Imagine if people have always love in their heart, they will never kill or hurt others.
768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Can you mine via a desktop browser on: September 29, 2017, 09:44:53 PM
Forget about that, it's not profitable anymore and focus on something else. Most of online faucets or browser mining are scams so don't trust them. If you have money and low electricity cost, buy some rigs and start mining by yourself. Mining these days is being done by big companies that invest alot of money that's why it is hard to compete with them.

I heard that freebitco.in is a trusted faucet site and always pays me. Now, they provide a passive mining using our browser. I don't know how that work but when I see, it looks like pretty simple. Hardware is the most important factor, of course. But you are right about building rigs.

We need to build a powerful computer so that we can mine better. Not just better, but real and profitable. I don't know anything about the browser mining, is it better than faucet ? I think hardware is the number one. So we better invest our money for building a GPU miner.
769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What tools will I add to my laptop to mine bitcoin? on: September 29, 2017, 09:40:07 PM
Now a days bitcoin mining with laptop is not possible i think. All i know is if you want to start mining you need a beast desktop with powerful gpu's. Wink

That's right. I have the same thought too. Laptop is not worth it to mine. Desktop can run 24 hours and I have more confident in desktop. I'm afraid that laptop cannot handle the 24 hours mining process.

We better build a monster computer to mine crypto. But I think mining Bitcoin is dead right now. Only with a powerful rigs you can mine. But with CPU or GPU, I don't think so. GPU mining still profitable, but that is not for Bitcoin. It's only for other crypto.
770  Economy / Speculation / Re: what you think about bitcoin in like 5 years? on: September 29, 2017, 08:03:15 PM
I think Bitcoin will be around $10k - $15k .  I think it is an exaggeration when they say that it will reach $100k, $500k or even 1 million dollar in five to 10 years time.  It needs a lot of money to come in the Bitcoin economy before they can reach that amount and there will be lots of FUD that will make some supporter to waiver and back out from supporting Bitcoin.  As much as I am very positive with Bitcoin growth, I just think that $10k - $15k is realistic amount for Bitcoin after 5 years.

That is so nice, I really glad if Bitcoin will really reach that amount. I'm gonna invest and collect Bitcoin. But, is there any other possibility ? Is there a possibility Bitcoin will go down for the next 5 years ? If you think Bitcoin will be hard to reach $100k. I think it is possible to reach that amount. Even though I don't know how many years we need to reach that amount of money.
771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: The best place for mining on: September 29, 2017, 09:45:58 AM
When someone plans to do crypto mining one of the most important points is the place.  I want to know where you put your RIG?
let's discuss the size of the room you have and do you put your miner in the bedroom or special room?

If you value your sleep you definitely shouldn't place a miner in your bedroom. The only viable scenario to put rigs in your bedroom is if it's winter, you want to save on heating and need whirring noises to get rid of your tinnitus.

When I still had rigs running I had a basement to run them in. Dry, low temperature and no one gets bothered by the noise. Before I moved them to the basement I had them in the living room, much to the dismay of my significant other so they didn't stay there long.

I only had 2 rigs at most and that already warranted a room of its own. But it depends on your own noise / heat tolerance I guess. For a proper, large scale operation you definitely need something like a warehouse or at least a garage / large basement / dedicated room.

Nice tips, it's good to hear that. But what rigs do you use ? I think it depends on the rigs too. Do GPU rigs and ANTMINER have the same noise and heat ? I think it is okay to place GPU mining in bedroom, unless you have a tons of GPU.

Maybe basement is the best place but, what if we don't have a basement ? What if there is a possibility that our basement may have flood when the rainy days ? For example is my country. Here is a tropical country who often to get rain.
772  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the highest amount of Bitcoin you earned? on: September 29, 2017, 07:48:39 AM
I've earned about 0.15-0.20 BTC back in 2015 by Micro-Earnings sites, providing small services on another forum and so on.Bitcoin's price was around $300-400 back then. Good old times, I wish I had bought a ton of them.

What is your jobs to earn that amount of Bitcoin ? I earn that amount too, but I work as a typist in captcha company. I work harder not never read forum. I earn some quite money when the Bitcoin's price was still around $800. As long as I remember, I earn around 0.2 BTC and I was so happy. But now I was so confuse because it gets harder to earn Bitcoin and I want to earn more. I want to join Campaigns in this forum so that I can earn enough money for my family. Please tell me if you can share it to me.
773  Economy / Economics / Re: plan for the future with bitcoin on: September 29, 2017, 06:37:22 AM
Basically investing is certainly a very good thing for future plans with bitcoin, especially at this time that many have predicted bitcoin prices will jump higher in the next few months. Keep doing the best and trying to master everything about bitcoin and its development over times, that's very important for a good plan to earn profits in the future.

Yes it is. Keep investing and saving our money in Bitcoin. I don't know how much Bitcoin will grow, but I believe Bitcoin will always and keep growing. I hope that Bitcoin will last longer and never die, atleast until I get succeed. Bitcoin is my only hope right now, hope for my money, business, family, and my future.

I have plan to do those things :
- Save bitcoins little by little.
- Keep it for several years.
- Then I will sell it when the price is high.
- I will buy a house with my investment money.
- I will mine other cryptocurrency.
- I will use it for keep building my blog/website.
- etc
774  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A new bitcoin documentary! on: September 29, 2017, 06:21:19 AM
Woah another Bitcoin documentary. I really like watching documentaries specially when the topic is about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency and new technologies. I remember Banking on Bitcoin documetary (2016) I've watched it when I'm just starting using Bitcoin this year and I got all the basic informations that every newbie needs to know about Bitcoin. Btw thank you I'll watch it later

It is really nice to see that. Really motivating and inspiring, it gives us information and inovation. I really like a documentary movies, they always pumps my heart so I can rise again and not giving up. I would like to see more documentary movie about Bitcoin. It will open the eyes of people around the world. The new money inovation, the open-source from people to people.
775  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is this for real? I could be a millionaire? on: September 29, 2017, 04:42:27 AM
I wouldn't beat myself up about it too much. As others have said, you would have have sold them long before now and i am sure everyone here has regrets by either selling early or not buying more. Dont think its too late though as i have been hearing that from friends since BTC was at $100

Indeed. It's never too late to buy Bitcoin. The price will still go up like a rocket until it reach $10,000 or more. Just buy and wait, poor people only saving and never invest. Rich people always invest and make their money multiple.
776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or Dogecoin? on: September 29, 2017, 03:34:32 AM
Obvious it's Bitcoin. Bitcoin was the first Crypto-Currency, price is more volatile, traders, investors, holders like it.

Dogecoin is a stable currency, price doesn't change very much, maybe that is why there are people using Dogecoins yet, because they want to keep their money in a stable currency... I can't imagine any other reason to use Dogecoin, maybe to gamble too, but only this.

Indeed. Dogecoin is nothing compare to Bitcoin. Some even say that Dogecoin is a joke or a fun coin.
But I must admit that Dogecoin is one of my favorit coin back then. There is also trusted faucet for Dogecoin.
777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Favourite coin so far on: September 29, 2017, 01:36:17 AM
Bitcoin, ethereum and now verge. These are my favorites coin so far. I see a lot of potential on these and its profitable. Soon their price will high and we could get earn profit.

Yes it is, Ethereum is really nice. Not only the price is still under $1000 but it is good for mining too.
But, what is the benefit of Verge ? Why do you like Verge ? Can you explain it to me ?
And how about Litecoin ? What about Dash and Monero ? What do you think of Zcash and Ethereum Classic ?
778  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kenapa Agan lebih memilih Menggunakan Bitcoin daripada yang lain ? on: September 29, 2017, 12:54:30 AM
pernahkah agan membandingkan bitcoin dengan payment yang lain ?
semisal paypal ? payerr ? PM ? webmoney ? payza ?

saya ingin tanya, jika agan mau membeli suatu barang, terdapat beberapa payment prosesor,
apa yang akan agan pilih ? bayar via btc, paypal , PM , payer atau yang lain ?
(jika smua payment prosesor ada balancenya)

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pertanyaan selanjutnya
kalau via paypal kan enak agan bisa langsung cairkan ke bank ?
tanpa lewat perantara atau WD langsung ke bank local
klau BTC kan susah ribet via vip harus verif id y
kalau via exchanger ratenya juga terlalu murah

apakah agan masih tetap mau pake BTC ?

Biar saya jelaskan satu persatu nih gan, pelan2 yah..

- sebagian besar dari kita menggunakan bitcoin utk investasi dan bukan utk transaksi
- kalo mau pake transaksi lebih baik pake yg lain seperti yg agan sebutkan tadi
- paypal, payza, payerr, pm, wmz, payoner, dll itu adalah contoh rekening online
- sebagian besar toko online luar seperti ebay, memang menggunakan payment prosesor itu
- tp sebenarnya saya lebih suka pake pm, wmz, dan bitcoin.
- kenapa ? karena ketiga payment prosesor itu tdk perlu verifikasi ktp dan tetek bengek
- paypal kalo mau dicairin ke bank lokal apa feenya gak gede gan ?
- sedangkan pm, wmz, dan bitcoin itu feenya kecil, ya memang fee bitcoin sekarang semakin naik
- kalo bitcoin pake vip saya gak tau karena blm pernah nyoba
- tp katanya kalo transfer bitcoin sesama vip gak kena fee gan, mungkin itu enaknya
- dan kalo di vip mungkin bisa dengan mudah di buat trading gan..
779  Other / Off-topic / Re: Desktop or Laptop?Why? on: September 29, 2017, 12:37:37 AM
Laptop if you travel often and need to carry it anywhere.

Desktop if just sit in your sweet home and need a better spec. Laptop's spec is less than computer because laptop is a portable computer. Laptop can be broken if you let it fall from desk. But computer will not be broken because you put it under floor and it is more easy to maintain, upgrade, and clean. Desktop can be use to mine with GPU and has a better PSU unlike laptop. Desktop is better for gaming also.
780  Economy / Economics / Re: Money above all things, Yes or no ? on: September 29, 2017, 12:30:40 AM
Money is just a tool for ensuring my life and then one who i love. It will never be above respect and values, it doesnt makes me better than others. I work hard for it, but never measure me for the amount of money i have, i'm like all of you guys.

Exactly. Money is just a tool don't let money use us as a tool. Money is not everything, but everything needs money. We can use money for goodness, not madness. Don't let money take over your self-regard. We can use money to make our parents and our family live a happy live. But parents not only need money, they need love and respect.
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