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761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 23, 2015, 10:01:12 PM
I have received word that Vior dev is now trying to get licensing.

Seems like this contradicts statements made by bitcoin carpenter

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Actually there has been development, it *seems* someone from Viorcoin has contacted about licensing.
I can't be sure yet, as several people seem to be contacting me about this issue, on both sides, and all are using public email addresses.

So I'm not sure of each person's affiliation.

Thank you.

Best regards,


And this would surprise you I take?

Just a little bit of understanding can go a long way.

There are hundreds of voir licensing agents, and there is no way for us the non developers to go through them all to a certain whether the dev has got one or not without spending countless hours doing due diligence.
If your referencing one of the ones I emailed it could very well be a misunderstanding on the reps part.

After coming to the realization that it would take to much time for me to confirm the truth behind all this

I have decided to believe the dev.
It's very easy to aquire the proper licensing, so why would he lie about it.
762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 23, 2015, 05:35:46 PM
Just for speculation fun

Looks like we finally retested 5k an it held.
Remember it was only a few weeks ago that we were wondering when we would break 5k.
763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 23, 2015, 03:25:45 PM
bah i know im gonna regret unignoring you for a sec..

its not registerred as viorcoin.

now go away.

back to ignore land

Can you tell me what it is registered under, they have no cryptocurrency projects registered, and they are moving forward w/ legal action.

stop pretending that you actually care about viorcoin investors no one is that stupid drop the act.

YOU ARE FROM A COMPETITOR AND WANT TO TRY TO HURT VIOR COIN

so anything you say here no one gives a shit and it makes you look really sad and pathetic that your own situation is so broke, that the best way you came up with to make $ is attack someone else...such fail.

I never heard of SuperNET or Opal but thanks to your never ending FUD here I will now never touch either with a ten foot pole Smiley

just let the devteam deal with him from now on, dont engage, his sole purpose here is to help supernet group get the first mover advantage if they ever figure out how to copy viorcoin.

telcom business is huge, and the advantage of setting up a cummunication platform before building the coinville has the possibility of making this the biggest thing in the altcoin world.

all I smell is fear.
764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 23, 2015, 02:58:41 PM
Why does price go down to 5-6k, is there any fundamental reason (like mega,... ) for it or it is just a common spread?

it is because the community is still small, also I believe the price is being manipulated for one of two reasons.

either
 1) its from general fudsters hoping to keep the attention on vior low by keeping the price low enough so that they can develop their own phone gateway before vior takes off.

2) The development team would like to keep the price low until they offer the monthly subcription and phone number, thereby making it easier for them to collect enough vior to fund the vior asset for coinville.


either way a low price as in under 10k until the community passes 750-1000 users will be good for drawing in new users while being fantastic for upward pressure once the manipulation has ended.
765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 23, 2015, 06:06:33 AM
It would be best if everyone starts to use the viorcoin forum, so that if bitcointalk goes down again we can carry on the conversation.

also its easier for newcomers to find the information they need in a a well sorted forum than it is on bitcointalk.
766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 23, 2015, 06:03:42 AM
I can see bassguitarman sit behind his computer, refreshing all the time, to share this BIG news.. pathetic troll..

what pissed me off about him was my earlier conversation with him. he continually baited me while posting half truths on this and other forums.

from now on I will just let him chat with the dev and keep him on ignore.  the proof he needs doesnt need to be given to him, only to the licensing company.  engaging with someone who seems to have clear contempt with this project is a gigantic waste of my time.

I promise to never remove him from ignore again unless a trusted member asks me to read his post.

In my opinion his only desire is for the dev to release his code to the public so he can copy it because he cant figure it out on his own....

anyways from now on lets talk about viorcoin and how to move forward instead of letting one disturbed individual constantly derail this thread.
767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 23, 2015, 05:40:51 AM
bah i know im gonna regret unignoring you for a sec..

its not registerred as viorcoin.

now go away.

back to ignore land
768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 23, 2015, 05:38:30 AM
Is Viorcoin team taking over Altcoin Kingdom?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884893.msg10210956#msg10210956

Please do

cool It would be sweet to have a news site under our belt.
769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 23, 2015, 05:36:21 AM
ignore this ass he has nothing better to do with his time than to FUD viorcoin.
770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 23, 2015, 05:27:53 AM
lets all move to viorcoin forum and chat there
bitcointalk is becoming to septic
771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 21, 2015, 04:18:15 PM
is this centralized?

No and yes  (please dev correct me if I am wrong)
the voip services the wallet, and the messanger service are all encrypted and decentralized set up on the node system built into the wallet

the viop to landline services are not decentralized( I dont think) because in unless the dev knows how to buypass the systems already in place, I think you need to join a centralized server in order to connect to the system already in place.

so its only the landline phone gateway which is encrypted through the nodes, but not decentralized because of the nature of landline calls.  it is however decentralized on the wallet end.

once again dev please correct me if I am wrong.

BC
772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 21, 2015, 07:20:29 AM


this community is like a cult.  Maybe next time I'll leave the vuln open.

ddosing is not a vulnerability, every single server on this earth is can be effected with a ddos attack.

after talking to the dev and a coder friend it seems the bug wasnt a bug after all, it was a transparent link allowing others to see the websight address of the vior gateway, in fact the only thing he could have shut down was our ability to pay for our subscription.(It does however show some transparency on the side of our dev).
 I am sorry I let bassguitarman bate me into his FUD campaign.

as for the sourcecode, it seems that the dev has all the licensing required to operate the vior network!!!!

all in all bassguitarman did us a favor by showing us that there is no problem.

Once again Im sorry to have taken the bait, and hope that people didnt lose to much of thei vior stash in the panic that followed

BC

Can you provide proof of licensing?

I have all the proof I need, the word of viorcoin developer, which is far greater than anything that you can offer.

now fuck off!!!!  I will be putting you back on ignore FOREVER!!

I also got a link to the licensing company, and thier email address from the dev to backcheck the story
i have sent them an email to get confirmation, and when it comes Im going to require a huge apolgy for the way you handled yourself today mister guitarman.
773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 21, 2015, 07:15:11 AM


this community is like a cult.  Maybe next time I'll leave the vuln open.

ddosing is not a vulnerability, every single server on this earth is can be effected with a ddos attack.

after talking to the dev and a coder friend it seems the bug wasnt a bug after all, it was a transparent link allowing others to see the websight address of the vior gateway, in fact the only thing he could have shut down was our ability to pay for our subscription.(It does however show some transparency on the side of our dev).
 I am sorry I let bassguitarman bate me into his FUD campaign.

as for the sourcecode, it seems that the dev has all the licensing required to operate the vior network!!!!

all in all bassguitarman did us a favor by showing us that there is no problem.

Once again Im sorry to have taken the bait, and hope that people didnt lose to much of thei vior stash in the panic that followed

BC
774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 21, 2015, 05:32:44 AM
the only vunerability was that there was a link to the the server address in the log file so that somene could ddos the server.

not much of a threat, and a simple fix

what an ass.

also the server is lisenced.....

also any other licensing only required
http://www.teluu.com/licensing

back to business as usual.

and in case the particulars about our arrangement were unclear

FUD
fear uncertainty doubt
you clearly broke the agreement when you threatened to ddos the server
please return my vior to the address i sent it to you from.
775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 21, 2015, 05:24:46 AM
The code is pjsip: if your software is closed source, you must license it: http://www.pjsip.org/licensing.htm

If you think that what i posted is not a vulnerability, do i have permission to try to attack?


Big hacker here  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




lol

well maybe ill get to buy some cheap coins from all this =P
776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 21, 2015, 05:21:31 AM
The messages were meant to be found.
IF there is any issue it's a ddos.

Nice guy...

 Cool

hes pming me now saying he wants to ddos the server.... what an ass.

there is no vulnerability in the wallet, but any server is vulnerable.
777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 21, 2015, 04:06:01 AM
we will see.

anyways the vulnerability is understandable, and easilly fixed. as for the rest about a stolen code I am not a coder , so I have sent the log to viorcoin dev and another coder to discuss it.
778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 21, 2015, 03:24:01 AM

I guess if a dev is stealing code, lying and saying they made it, and having multiple vulnerabilities, what should one do.  Is it fudding to reveal that?  I wish vior no ill will, but i'm tired of ICO scams that have no real innovation.

How do you know they steal the code? what evidence do you have? What if they license it?  How can you find vulnerabilities with a closed source ?

It's seems you have nothing valuable to do, looking at your post history almost 2-3 pages are on viorcoin thread.

Where's your opal drive, marketplace source? The only driver in opalcoin is speculation compared to viorcoin that has a phone network which calling credit can be bought with viorcoin.




im willing to pay him for his so called bug, ill release it  to the dev and let him figure it out.

if he doesnt release we will know what is what.

I'm just tired of his BS and his lack of respect for other coin community. The whole alt coin is very small and i am sure some of viorcoin users are holding opal as well. Which scam has vior dev committed, who are you to judge? So far he has delivered all what he promised during ico and added more "i'm tired of ICO scams that have no real innovation."
he is a real piece of work that is for sure, but im calling him on his shit, lets see how this goes.
779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 21, 2015, 03:06:15 AM

I guess if a dev is stealing code, lying and saying they made it, and having multiple vulnerabilities, what should one do.  Is it fudding to reveal that?  I wish vior no ill will, but i'm tired of ICO scams that have no real innovation.

How do you know they steal the code? what evidence do you have? What if they license it?  How can you find vulnerabilities with a closed source ?

It's seems you have nothing valuable to do, looking at your post history almost 2-3 pages are on viorcoin thread.

Where's your opal drive, marketplace source? The only driver in opalcoin is speculation compared to viorcoin that has a phone network which calling credit can be bought with viorcoin.


im willing to pay him for his so called bug, ill release it  to the dev and let him figure it out.

if he doesnt release we will know what is what.
780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Viorcoin | Voice & Video Call | ViorNumber | Cheap International Calls on: January 21, 2015, 02:53:15 AM
Is there a bug bounty program?  I believe I have found a major vulnerability

LMAO

I'm serious, I am willing to reveal it to an "escrow" so they can confirm it

ill pay for the bug..   since I unignored you to answer your pm, Ill need to confirm it with the dev but ill pay you in vior if it is legit.

pm me.
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