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761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 18, 2023, 09:49:00 PM
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At the moment Real Madrid can't really have a player to replace the position left by Benzema but at least for the start of this season Real Madrid has Bellingham who can be used as a goal machine and at least help cover the void on the front due to Benzema departure.
Regarding Mbappe there is no real certainty about what he will be like in the future but if Real Madrid can bring him into the squad there is a big possibility that Mbappe can become a replacement figure for Benzema and could even be even better.
Yes, at least for now, they have Bellingham who has been good so far. Maybe Real Madrid won't experience so many big problems when competing in La Liga, at least their main and strongest competitor is Barcelona. But whether or not this will be enough for RM to fight in the Champions League with the current squad. Maybe they will still qualify for the group phase and will advance to the next rounds, but there are also many top clubs which are currently quite strong compared to other leagues too.
Yes, hopefully they will become stronger. Currently there is also Joselu as a replacement for Vini JR who turns out to be able to play quite well. but indeed they have to work harder again and again.

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I think everyone at the club including the manager Carlo Ancelotti knows that the club needs a world class striker that is good enough to fill in the boots of their former captain Karim Benzema who left the club in the summer to join a club in the Saudi Arabian League but it's very obvious the club president Fiorentino Perez wants no other person than Kylian Mbappe who has been reported in the media to have reached an agreement to join the Spanish giants next summer.
Yes, Mbappe is the main expected striker to be at Real Madrid. But no one can guarantee that he will actually go to Real Madrid or not. Because all this time, it was all just a dream and it hasn't come true yet. So, it's just a matter of what happens when Mbappe's contract ends, whether he will continue or move to Real Madrid. Surely this will continue to be hot news every transfer season.
762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should I invest in new projects. on: September 18, 2023, 09:40:56 PM
Most probably, you are shilling a shitcoin. However, I don't prefer to invest in any new tokens that haven't proven trustworthy. They will make a lot of promises and raise funds. At the end of the day, they will skip with funds and leave investors. If you are thinking of becoming quick rich by investing in a brand new project, then just think that you are gambling with your funds with 99% chances of losing. It's better to make less money in a solid way where risk is less as well. Trade with a couple of established altcoins if you really want to play with altcoins.
It seems like that, he also posted a new project again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5467221.0
I don't know if there is a connection or not, but they are both bubble bots / bubble projects or something similar.
Or he is someone who is looking for new projects that he feels are for hype so he can get big profits.
But what is certain is that, according to what you said here, I will not be interested in this type of new token either. What's more, something that only relies on hype and that's not necessarily hype. I think it would just be a waste of money and time.

And if the OP is not shilling or is really interested in the project, I can say, if you are still in doubt, then it's better to leave. There is no guarantee that the new project will be the same as previous hype coins or projects. What's more, this seems like just a project that others follow and expect for any hype. So, this is risky. Beginners should be more careful if they want to invest, it is better to stay away from new projects that are still unclear like this.
763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 16, 2023, 09:51:17 PM
After watching Manchester United defeated at the Old Trafford today against Brighton, it was very clear that the players of Manchester United are not playing out their heart for the club and it seems the players aren't happy with the managerial style of the club manager Erik Ten Hag.
After Rasmus Hojlund was replaced just 19 minutes into the second of that match, the fans of the club booed which somehow sent a me
Honestly, you could say that their performance is decreasing. Are they just satisfied with last season's achievements so they are proud to have entered the Champions League this season? So they only focus on their credibility last season. Meanwhile, this season, their performance has dropped drastically. the defeat against Brighton this time could be said to be a crushing defeat. Not only did they lose at home, but they lost 1 - 3 to Brighton. Even though they are not just an ordinary team. They are Man United. However, so far, Ten Hag has still not been able to optimize his team in the EPL. Likewise for the Man United players, they don't seem to be able to defend their team wholeheartedly, so they are often not optimal. Lots of wasted opportunities here. It is deeply regretted.
764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 16, 2023, 11:51:46 AM
Unfortunately, it is not easy at all for Real Madrid without a pure striker like Karim Benzema in the fight for the La Liga trophy this season. As for Joselu, so far he has often been played more as a second tier player. Even Ancelotti didn't use the usual 4-4-3 pattern, even though they had Joselu.
If the city talks about Real Madrid's ideals, indeed, ideally, they need a truly tough striker in Benzema's position. Even at the moment, Bellingham, who incidentally always contributes goals, is not in that position. And, Mbappe is indeed the most appropriate and ideal choice. However, we know what his current status is, he is still staying at PSG until his contract ends, and there is still no guarantee that he will actually go to Real Madrid even though rumors are always spreading... So it could be said that RM's position is quite risky if there are players If another person suddenly gets injured, of course it will have quite an impact on them...
765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Big capital, small risk or small capital big risk - which is best approach? on: September 15, 2023, 09:59:11 PM
While those that put huge capital win more often, their losses are usually painful. On the other hand, those that commit small capital to make huge wins rare win but when they do, they win big; their losses too are less painful. There are other advantages and disadvantages for both approaches but for the sake of this discussion, let's know which approach you think is better and why?
Yes, this will indeed provide its own pluses and minuses. in fact, there are also those with high capital, high risk, or high turn. Finally, this is also called in the world of gambling, sometimes we feel very good at positioning our capital in a bet because of our belief in winning. However, in the end it turns out to result in very unexpected results. . Actually, the two are almost the same, because if you use small capital you very rarely win, and in the end, if you add them up, the nominal value will also be large. In this case, sometimes, I use both, depending on what the chances of winning are at that time.

Small deposit or big stake what matters is the luck,  if you are lucky to have selected a few sure games that you know can give some substantial winning you ought to go for it,  but also mind you,  the more the game selected the higher you chances of losing because you can be sure in all the selections,  definitely one or two games will cut the ticket and that is where making use of the cash-out feature could help significantly.
Again, luck can really help us with many things, especially in this case of gambling or betting, if we are lucky, small capital or big capital will be our way to get many times more money. But once again, we can calculate how many times does luck come to us?  Grin Grin
Because it cannot be denied, sometimes, something called luck comes to us when we least expect it, but often it doesn't come when we really expect it. Meanwhile, when it comes to betting, sometimes luck is very influential. although that's not the only thing that has an influence.
766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are you feeling the old professional bounty managers? on: September 15, 2023, 09:55:34 PM
Personally they are here but they don't bring bounty now. What do you think could be the main reason for this? There were many higher rank managers who gifted us bounties for good projects in the past but now they are retired. What have they removed from the bounty due to the bad situation in the crypto market?
Yes indeed. There are several old bounty managers who are currently no longer very active, some have even completely left bounty management. However, sometimes they also carry out bounty management again.
I'm sure they have their own reasons.
As we know, the bounty's prospects have not been very good since the end of the last bull run. Even though there are some bounties that really pay and are promising, as usual, there are also many that are still not good.

This could be one of the reasons why they choose not to manage new projects which usually only waste time. Moreover, managing bounties is very troublesome, so it would be better if you managed bounties that were really convincing. Or now many BMs have finally switched to signature management which is paid for in Bitcoin. However, the competition is very tight in this regard.
767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 15, 2023, 09:51:05 PM
Are you watching top standings Bundesliga teams between Bayern vs Leverkusen? seems excited until 30th minutes both teams have scored one goal each other.  Bayern Munich lead awhile trough Harry Kane goal and Leverkusen success make it draw after Alex Grimaldo goals in 24th minutes.
Yes, Bayern's failure to achieve 3 full points this time was truly heartbreaking. How could it not be, they were ahead until the last minute, however, they experienced misfortune in the last minute due to the final kick received by Leverkusen. Even though Kane had started the match very well by scoring 1 goal in the 7th minute. He could really optimize his performance at his new club. But unfortunately, that's not enough. There were several missed opportunities by several Bayern players whereas that was a pretty good opportunity. But yes, after leading 2-1 until the last minute, it seemed like they were confident enough to win. But what a shame, because the final kick made them draw. Moreover, Dayot Upamecano's goal was declared offside based on VAR. With the end of this match, Leverkusen temporarily leads in first place in the Bundesliga.
768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 15, 2023, 09:42:23 PM
Manchester United not only have some internal problem but also they got bad news with several players injury after playing for their national teams, new signing Sofyan Amrabat got injury and seems he will not makes debut against Brighton Albion in this week.
Yes, indeed, beside them, Amrabat also, was injured while playing for the Moroccan national team. Well, this might not go over well enough. Ten Hag really had a lot of home work to rebuild Man United's strength at the start of the season. Even though they looked better, unfortunately, they lost the opportunity to do so in several matches. They bought several new players this season, the latest being Amrabat, but unfortunately he also had to take a break because of his injury. Not to mention several other players who are also not fit. Even though tomorrow there will be a quite tough match with Brighton, this will not be so easy for them.
769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Keeping or recovering seed phrases during or after a natural disaster. on: September 14, 2023, 09:41:27 PM
I know that the security of our wallet is very important that is why it should be personal. I have heard of saving encrypted seed phrases in the cloud or online personal files. I know this is also risky but is there any means of saving my seed phrase safe from these natural disasters? That could atleast give a Bitcoiner access to a wallet after the loss of seed phrases during or after natural disasters.
This is certainly something that was beyond all of our expectations and no one expected such a natural disaster to occur. However, this always happens suddenly. Be grateful if this happened after there was prior warning from the authorities regarding the disaster. So we can still save our assets. However, if this happens suddenly and we cannot save our assets, then we must be prepared for the consequences. In this case, regarding seed phrases or other important information and data regarding crypto assets, everything will have risks. Personally, I have several offline and online backups. Of course, going online will be very dangerous because it is vulnerable to cyber crime. Therefore I chose it for few assets. Meanwhile for offline ones, I will pay more attention to storage locations that can be carried easily and are always close to us
770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 13, 2023, 11:18:07 PM
Group F is the toughest group in this year's Champions League. Every team has a chance to qualify for the knockout rounds.
This season's UCL League presents its own surprises for us. PSG, Dortmund, AC Milan and Newcastle United are considered worthy of being included in the "Tough Group".
When compared with other groups at UCL, this group is the toughest group. They have good performance and are not ordinary clubs. Newcastle may be a newcomer, but looking at their performance last season, they really deserve to enter the UCL. Although this season, for some reason there is something less from the club. But on the other hand, Newcastle is still highly considered. On the other hand, maybe PSG (if Mbappe continues to stay) will be one of the favorites to qualify from the group phase, as will AC Milan. But then again, sometimes UCL brings exciting surprises.
771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 13, 2023, 11:11:15 PM
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Most of players want to retire at a club they debuts their career if possible. Ramos made a decision to return to Sevila at very last years in his career and refused offers from Saudi Arabia. He no longer hope to be call for Spanish team but still return to Sevilla and play there. I believe it is not because he wants to win Europa League with Sevilla but he cares more about where he plays for and retires. Sevilla is in his heart and his dream becomes true to return to where he started and very likely he will retire there too.
Yes, and this decision is very reasonable at his age. Because, returning to the original club is not easy for some players. Except for him who is quite influential, because of this age problem. Sevilla also still received it well. However, unfortunately, Sevilla's performance at the start of this season was not good (actually the same as the start of last season). Most of Sevilla's players are still unable to optimize their performance well. So, Ramos cannot change the club alone, especially with his current performance. At least, this season, he can still compete in the UCL match, regardless of the outcome.

In this case, at Sevilla, more than good cooperation is needed to make Sevilla rise again, from various parties, not only the players but also the coach in providing the right tactics, and how the club manages the club as a whole.

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Ramos really knew what he wanted and he patiently waited for his choice. He had more lucrative offers from Turkey and Saudi Arabia but he decided I take a pay cut to retire in his boyhood club. His performance might not be superb but Ramos's experience will be very useful to Sevilla.
Yes, while many football players decide to switch to the Arabian league because of the attractive pay even at the end of their careers, Ramos chose to return to Sevilla. And the reason is quite strong. Yes, it cannot be denied, he is quite different, and I applaud his decision.
772  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers? on: September 13, 2023, 10:03:54 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
To be honest, crypto affiliates and influencers can be a part that plays a role in the development of the crypto world. This will make crypto increasingly famous in the world. however, once again. Also known as affiliates and influencers. They will usually only care about what they are promoting because they are making money from it.

So, don't trust them 100%. Moreover, they will usually only give very good reviews for the projects they promote, so that more people will join the project. Currently there are probably a lot of crypto influencers in all parts of the world. However, all or most of them may be the same, namely that they mostly only care about their pay, without caring about what they are promoting and they usually won't think long about the effect on investors who are attracted by their promotions. Although maybe not all affiliates are like that, perhaps most are.
773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: creating a token without money on: September 13, 2023, 09:58:27 PM
hello, is it possible to create a token and make it very famous without capital?
It's just luck and if the token is really good, and you know how to use the public for promotion and create hype.
You can use your tokens to create rewards for participants who help you promote your tokens.

However, if I look at how you look for information, even about something like this. I'm not sure that this will be easy. Especially if you still don't understand how the flow works and how to make the token become hype on its own.

Something that is successful usually requires more capital but still requires capital. And you also need a team, it won't be easy if you work alone without a team to support you and help you in various things. Because this is not just making tokens and selling them, but there are many things that need to be considered.
774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 12, 2023, 09:47:42 PM
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In the end, everyone will probably doubt West Ham if Manchester City's squad depth is the benchmark. West Ham have had good form so far, but Manchester City are a different team compared to their previous 4 opponents. I don't see Manchester City falling into trouble even without De Bruyne, but they are still a very strong team with the current squad.
That's the point.
For now, I am sure that it will still be difficult for Man City to be beaten by West Ham, even though no predictions will be 100% correct and nothing is impossible. But here we are talking about possibilities that are more likely to occur. By looking at the lineup and past experience. I am sure that Man City will be superior to West Ham. yes, that's right, Haaland is still unstoppable this season. And this will still continue.
775  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: presuring someone into Bitcoin investment on: September 12, 2023, 09:44:23 PM
presuring someone into Bitcoin investment
Simply, this will not be a wise idea, pressuirng someone to invest in Bitcoin is not wise,mate. There needs their own.
They need their own awareness to invest, while we only need to introduce and pave the way, and if we can while observing and supervising how that person invests, we can also do it. But never pressure someone to invest in this high risk thing. What's more, if we make too sweet promises to people who don't know what Bitcoin is at all.

I can remember some years ago, I talked to my mother about Bitcoin and investing on it. that was two years ago. she should use any amount she could use as a trial, but she rejected the idea of investing on Bitcoin.
wasn't the price of Bitcoin 2 years ago higher than now? If 2 years ago your mother had really followed your advice to invest in BItcoin, then she would have really regretted it because at that time the price of Bitcoin fell more and more, and in the end she really became more convinced that you had cheated her. Now, the price of Bitcoin is currently dropping quite a bit, and it is still good to buy. If you explain that there are bullish and bull run cycles, maybe he will understand a little if one day the value of Bitcoin will fall or rise drastically. But once again, never force someone else to invest in Bitcoin.
776  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Berani mengambil resiko apakah salah satu tindakan menuju sukses on: September 11, 2023, 11:20:27 PM
.....apakah keberanian mengambil resiko adalah tindakan yang bagus dalam investasi di btc dan juga bisnis lainnya?  Saya ingin mendengarnya dari anda?.....tapi menurut saya berani mengambil resiko berinvestasi di btc adalah hal yang bagus selama kita menggunakan uang menganggur.
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Keberanian dalam mengambil resiko yang seperti apa dulu..
Jika hanya bermodal nekat dan berani mengambil resiko saja, itu justru perlu dihindari.
Karena, semua hal, baik berinvestasi di Bitcoin atapun dalam bisnis lainnya, ada yang namanya perencanaan dan persiapan yang matang dari berbagai sisi. Tidak hanya pada modal saja,  tetapi juga pada kesiapan mental dan pengetahuan yang harus dimiliki sebelum mengambil langkah tersebut. Dan berani mengambil resiko adalah salah satu langkah awal untuk merealisasikannya.

Ingat, ini adalah salah satu, bukan satu-satunya. Berarti masih ada faktor lain yang juga harus dipertimbangkan selain hanya modal berani mengambil resiko. Sehingga, dengan ini harapannya, siapapun yang akan melakukan investasi atau  memulai bisnis lainnya, akan lebih siap untuk menjalankannya, mengavualsi, dan juga mengembangkannya dengan penuh pertimbangan yang matang. Langkah ini juga bisa memanaje resiko yang akan dihadapi. Ingat, tidak ada  yang Zero-Risk, pasti akan selalu ada resiko yang dihadapi, karena itulah perlu persiapan yang matang untuk bisa menghadapi dan memanaje resiko tersebut.

Ya, walaupun mungkin normalnya kita tidak bisa sesempurna itu melakukan perencanaan dan juga pengembangannya pasti ada saja kurangnya, tetapi setidaknya jangan asal jalan saja hanya karena kita berani mengambil resiko dan punya modaluang nganggur. tetaplah mengambil resiko yang terarah dan terkontrol sehingga kita tidak akan seperti gambling saja dan kita maish bisa memegang kendali atas keputusan yang kita buat.
777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 11, 2023, 11:11:39 PM
Actually, in La Liga, Rea Sociedad is also not a small club and has sometimes given good surprises. It's just a matter of how Real Madrid can optimize its performance again or not. ....
Real Sociedad is one of the promising clubs with having reputation for staying at the top of the league table and their performance is also mostly we organized which helps them for keeping in-touch with top ranked clubs this match could be not easy for the Real Madrid even they are playing at home and have enough chances with their performance is also at the best after having all 12 points form first three games....
Yeah, that's why I said that Real Sociedad is not a small club either. because there was someone above who said that Real Madrid's opponents were very easy to beat because of Real Sociedad. But once again, if you look at H2H and overall performance on paper, Real Madrid should be able to win against this club. But once again, it will definitely not be so easy to get this victory.

Ramos is 37 years old now, of course his performance is no longer what it was when he was young, although at least their defense is a little better, Sevilla is still lacking in their front line and their attack power is less capable, so Ramos' arrival does not mean that he can improve the situation of Sevilla, which is performing very badly. early this season, but it seems we need to see things in stages.
One of the reasons Ramos is at Sevilla may also be because previously, Ramos was at this club and perhaps wanted to retire from this club. Indeed, Ramos was a very strong defender in his time. However, age cannot be fooled. no matter what your skills and abilities are, when you are 37 years old, your abilities and durability will not be as optimal as before. Maybe he can still contribute to Sevilla, but not optimally full time. So, however, Sevilla still needs another defender who is stronger and still young at least.
778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: September 11, 2023, 11:02:40 PM
many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"
Yes, this is indeed one of the dangers of gambling addicts and the reason why gambling is illegal in several countries. Because the negative impact is mostly not only on the gambling person himself, but also on the surrounding environment and increasing criminal records. I'm not saying that this is for all gamblers, but for addicted gamblers who really can't control themselves and are willing to do anything just to satisfy their desire for gabling. Not a few of them even suffer losses to the point that they want to sell all their assets when they are addicted to gambling. Unfortunately, some of them do not want to undergo treatment to overcome this quite dangerous gambling addiction. From the news above, it can be understood that this crime is really true. This can occur due to the effects of excessive gambling addiction. This is truly unfortunate and will actually make the gambling business have a bad image in society.
779  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: September 11, 2023, 10:24:05 PM
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Peralihan yang tidak menguntungkan sama sekali bagi trader namun dari sisi pihak market sendiri cukup profitable begitu juga dengan pemerintah, untuk melakukan penarikan diharuskan menggunaka IDR dari sebelumnya menggunakan BIDR. Pair IDR trading di Tokocrypto tidak banyak hanya tersedia USDT/IDR namun selisihnya cukup jauh dibandingkan USDT/BIDR. Belum lagi sell order di harga 1 IDR cukup besar dan butuh waktu sampai satu bulan lebih transaksi trade BIDR ke IDR dengan harga 1 Rupiah.
Bisa dimengerti gan. Seperti yang saya bilang di atas juga memang ketika menjual piar BIDR/IDR, kita akan mendapatkan kerugian. Karena itu siasatnya yaitu dengan menjual USDT/IDR. Terkadang ini akan sedikit menguntungkan, namun tetap tergantung pada rate saat itu. Hingga saat ini, fee trading dengan pair IDR masih free 0%.

Dan sebenarnya ini masih masa peralihan. Saat ini sudah ada penambahan pair koin-koin lainnnya ke IDR selain USDT dan BIDR. Ini berarti tidak menutup kemungkinan jika nantinya akan semakin banyak yang menggunakan pair IDR untuk semakin mempermudah transaksi.

Ohya btw, sebenarnya saat ini di website Tokorcyrpto bisa langsung dilakukan konversi dari BIDR ke IDR dengan value yang sama. Ini berbeda dengan menggunakan pair trade dari BIDR/IDR, karena ini konversi saja dengan perbaidngan  rate yang sama. Tidak ada biaya di sini, hanya ada potongan pajak penghasilan saja. Namun ini hanya bisa dilakukan melalui website Tokocrypto saja untuk saat ini.
https://support.tokocrypto.com/hc/id/articles/19016834584973-Konversi-BIDR-ke-IDR-dengan-Mudah-di-Tokocrypto

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Dulu Sekitar 2018/2019 sebelum Tokocrypto bekerjasama dengan Binance untuk deposit ataupun withdraw dari/ke fiat Rupiah, seingat saya pair beberapa aset kripto-nya termasuk Bitcoin itu menggunakan IDR*, dan ketika BIDR (Binance Indonesian Rupiah) muncul awalnya memang rada sedikit 'aneh' saja (karena BIDR itu sendiri termasuk aset kripto/stable coin) ketika withdraw ternyata langsung dikonversi ke Rupiah.

Seperti awal mula digunakan BIDR dan sekarang balik lagi ke IDR memang terkait pembiasaan saja, namun tetap akan lebih nyaman kalau misal pair langsung ke fiat nya diadakan lagi agar tidak muter sana-sini terutama bagi user yang trade aset kripto selain dari yang sudah ada pair IDR-nya saat ini.

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Iya, ini mungkin masalah pembiasaan, dan jika ada yang mengeluh karena rate nya ternyata berbeda antara BIDR dan IDR, maka bisa menggunakan fitur konversi. Namun memang harapannya sih ke depannya semakin banyak koin atau token yang menggunakan pair IDR langsung agar lebih efektif saja, terutama koin-koin top yang memang kita sering menggunakannya.. Saat ini sudah mulai ada penambahan koin dengan pair IDR, namun memang masih sedikit.
780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Airdrop Events, Testnet Events is not an investment! on: September 11, 2023, 09:59:54 PM
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Below are statements that i think are true about Testnet events and Airdrops

  • Airdrop events are free gifts from different projects to perform simple tasks (it surely varies
  • The rewards from an airdrop event in most cases are speculative (there's no guarantee if it will be worth 1$ or 1000$ or worth 0)
  • Test-net events does not PAY; either it is an incentivized participation or promised rewards; payment is not guaranteed.
  • Test-net reward is not promised either.
Actually, programs like this that give gifts in the form of their initial tokens will always be like this. These gifts can later be valuable or worthless gifts. Because this will really depend on how the project will develop its potential and optimize all its achievements to continue to survive and develop in the crypto market. However, looking at the situation and conditions in which such projects have been running, I personally am not sure if their tokens will be useful for investment. I used to hope so, even holding their tokens for a long time because I hoped that these tokens would really grow and have extraordinary potential. However, of the many new tokens, none of them were valuable. even everything becomes shit coins.

If we really get tokens from events like that, I think the sooner they can be sold, the better. Moreover, if we meet the hype market for the coin and immediately sell it at the right time, then it might be more worth it. This is because up to now, new projects usually don't last long on the market and will immediately go into decline after the hype is over. In fact, if the project cannot be hyped, they will actually die before listing on the ID market.[/list]
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