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761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 06:04:29 PM
I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!
No, do not agree. Trust the Dev, he delivered so far and is at the moment the only one who knows his code well enough. Patients, that test will be there one day & Chaeplin is not the only one that needs to check it.


The developer claims the transactions cant be tracked.  chaeplin claims he can track them.

One is right. One is wrong.  We need to find out which.  Trust the developer is bullshit when the claims are easily verifiable with proof.  The best way to earn trust is to back it up with actual verifiable facts.


and he guess'd wrong on this 1 off transaction test..


Plus I didn't see any proof of anything

762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 06:03:17 PM
I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!

Not really.  No other coin is publicly testing.

we don't even have rev2 yet, atc always made clear that atm it was about proving a link and it never happened


plus his guess was wrong.. so enough already
763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 06:00:00 PM
https://evaltech-my.sharepoint.com/personal/allen_eval-tech_com/_layouts/15/guestaccess.aspx?guestaccesstoken=FUJ7tBTUM8R3KMU2hAwba293Jah2leGT2%2bkg%2fp%2fdFX0%3d&docid=1b12fbf2d34bd495aa8d86071dfff2742

zipped file.
PW protected.
MD5 included

"sendfrommixer" MAIN XV49MnmtTirtZSQ2jtgisvNhNr6DduzCNu 2.2

---FROMADDRESS??


EDIT: Being that there seems to be a conflict on BOTH sides here, I have included an MD5 in a PW protected zipfile that is uploaded to my sharepoint site.



PW for Zip- OutgoingXCTransaction

You have 7 tx.

follow input of http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96074.htm

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?82113.htm


The address he posted doesn't match your "guess".. regardless this was just a 1 off transaction .. we can organize a valid test with bounty
764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 05:51:54 PM




None of this really matters as again - he is not showing a direct link, rather that a single transaction occurred matching the provided send amount of 2.2..



well he keeps talking about design flaw, so unless he provides hard evidence we should just ignore him from now on, and if the design is flawed and u continue updating without tracing it, other prestigious members will eventually find it and report truthfully


It is not a design flaw and nor does it apply to future release's.. it is just to create more FUD


Then bounty ?

bounty for what?

prove to me who sent the payment to

XWbKXuTjW65VhQ2yk7zhhUbiuPN4XMGE2k

and you can get a bounty
765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 05:49:25 PM




None of this really matters as again - he is not showing a direct link, rather that a single transaction occurred matching the provided send amount of 2.2..



well he keeps talking about design flaw, so unless he provides hard evidence we should just ignore him from now on, and if the design is flawed and u continue updating without tracing it, other prestigious members will eventually find it and report truthfully


It is not a design flaw and nor does it apply to future release's.. it is just to create more FUD
766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 05:47:06 PM



FYI:

Code:
* ====> Working block height 28617 has 10 tx
* ====> Searchng XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb
tx: 7 percent 95 value 2.2
*===> block reached
*===> Searchng 28618 : diff : 1
*===> XV49MnmtTirtZSQ2jtgisvNhNr6DduzCNu 2.19999 link is : XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb <----> XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC


http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?28617.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96074.htm
Code:
Details for Transaction
Hash 3680e4bd53607ff677eb94fd0b15f17cdf21f6c8e89a0b5b573c5a2ee13cfdb5
Blockheight 28617 (34 confirmations)
Date/Time 2014-06-11 16:03:57
Total Output 21.49996 XC
Fee 1,E-5.0 XC

 
Inputs / Outputs
Raw Transaction
Inputs
Index Previous output Address Amount
0 762a501de829...:0 XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw 21.49997 XC
Outputs
Index Redeemed in Address Amount
0 4eba6dee5d2a... XCfsrU7KGy6hzCmfvF47FjC2Mj56tqxR9d 21.484411 XC
1 dd438f2fbd86... XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb 0.015549 XC



http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?28618.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96083.htm
Code:

Hash 1cd9a9bdc8cadc55de21d1dc640aa35bd0bc631f52d54e373b49c1b4ac3a42ed
Blockheight 28618 (33 confirmations)
Date/Time 2014-06-11 16:04:47
Total Output 2.210008 XC
Fee 4,E-5.0 XC

 
Inputs / Outputs
Raw Transaction
Inputs
Index Previous output Address Amount
0 2e4b75ef5a19...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
1 cd32a1861879...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
2 3ce0db590e12...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
3 02db662529db...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
4 447508bf02da...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
5 2d78dc9f56f4...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
6 11c03ded1646...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
7 621e30ceab64...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
8 94fdca2ed122...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
9 8b9b2670d7fe...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
10 9e0042d13a8c...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
11 3bf012c2084a...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
12 88d3f916833b...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
13 d3c04cd03e84...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
14 c2f94d8a07f7...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
15 6bf82a41a9ea...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
16 41a3ee9ac44a...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
17 5e4064a65a3b...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
18 3dd4c6f4142d...:1 XXh8LXMKYXiZ8dJMs57cBSZ93tDZddSoF7 0.003 XC
19 0a17a0ab48af...:2 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.003 XC
20 2ef543f876d2...:1 XUZvnU6MrxH49AVaSKwsXJMsyPoicrP6g2 0.100593 XC
21 a5e213619ea1...:1 XFx7u2jjP2TSQA34m6wJRugivcsJPG9yHN 0.003 XC
22 c933acb99fd0...:1 XUZvnU6MrxH49AVaSKwsXJMsyPoicrP6g2 0.003 XC
23 339cf1265d09...:1 XFx7u2jjP2TSQA34m6wJRugivcsJPG9yHN 2.094095 XC
24 b83aee2ba80c...:2 XYjDp5K1XTHn5ajiVxtaKw7CoL9CzRZKM2 0.003 XC
Outputs
Index Redeemed in Address Amount
0 Not yet redeemed XU9zPC349F4QVJmcn96d1S86bA9TwiyR7q 0.010018 XC
1 Not yet redeemed XV49MnmtTirtZSQ2jtgisvNhNr6DduzCNuBITTREX 2.19999 XC







None of this really matters as again - he is not showing a direct link, rather that a single transaction occurred matching the provided send amount of 2.2..

767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 05:41:21 PM

In a real life situation you would not have an MD5 would you?  All you would have is the incoming amount and TX ID.  
Therefore, I hashed the MD5 including the sender and receiver, and zipped it.  It is there. the password will be available later - say 4 pm CST, so 3hr45mins from now.

he already posted something.  check it now

and if he somehow cracked the zip , you guys have to be kidding me

evtrmm, where are you now. need you here.

All chaeplin did was search for transactions that equal = 2.2, he failed to show any link between the two


Put an end to this.. There is clearly a difference between "Tell me the FROMADDRESS" and "Show me a link back to the FROMADDRESS".

If you are going to offer "Tests" Then run the sendfrommixer 10 times, each from a different sentfrom address to the same sendto address with the same amount. Then ask which address is it for 1 of the 10 specific transactions.

YES DONE

received payment @ - XYpmyasn9gRZuaumqjkk9XFccrz24XL2bk


768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 05:40:40 PM

In a real life situation you would not have an MD5 would you?  All you would have is the incoming amount and TX ID.  
Therefore, I hashed the MD5 including the sender and receiver, and zipped it.  It is there. the password will be available later - say 4 pm CST, so 3hr45mins from now.

he already posted something.  check it now

and if he somehow cracked the zip , you guys have to be kidding me

evtrmm, where are you now. need you here.

All chaeplin did was search for transactions that equal = 2.2, he failed to show any link between the two


+1 like the last 500 test, so can you idiots please stop backstabbin your own dev for once.

We aren't backstabbing anything.  ATCSecure put a test out there.


Actually I didn't put that test out there, that was done by evtrmm



So far nobody has provided the source address for any test I have done
769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 05:39:39 PM

In a real life situation you would not have an MD5 would you?  All you would have is the incoming amount and TX ID.  
Therefore, I hashed the MD5 including the sender and receiver, and zipped it.  It is there. the password will be available later - say 4 pm CST, so 3hr45mins from now.

he already posted something.  check it now

and if he somehow cracked the zip , you guys have to be kidding me

evtrmm, where are you now. need you here.

All chaeplin did was search for transactions that equal = 2.2, he failed to show any link between the two


As I said before dev you need to make a dozen transactions, all of the same amount, as a test. Then simply searching for the transaction amoount won't work if you ask him to pick a specific one.


agreed, that wasn't a test I put forward

here is one


XYpmyasn9gRZuaumqjkk9XFccrz24XL2bk

Tell me the source


770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 05:38:41 PM

In a real life situation you would not have an MD5 would you?  All you would have is the incoming amount and TX ID.  
Therefore, I hashed the MD5 including the sender and receiver, and zipped it.  It is there. the password will be available later - say 4 pm CST, so 3hr45mins from now.

he already posted something.  check it now

and if he somehow cracked the zip , you guys have to be kidding me

evtrmm, where are you now. need you here.

All chaeplin did was search for transactions that equal = 2.2, he failed to show any link between the two


First, say address is correct ?


I will show you hard evidence.

Design flaw.


Is there bounty ?


I don't know the address

and no there is not a bounty for that test
771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 05:34:19 PM

In a real life situation you would not have an MD5 would you?  All you would have is the incoming amount and TX ID.  
Therefore, I hashed the MD5 including the sender and receiver, and zipped it.  It is there. the password will be available later - say 4 pm CST, so 3hr45mins from now.

he already posted something.  check it now

and if he somehow cracked the zip , you guys have to be kidding me

evtrmm, where are you now. need you here.

All chaeplin did was search for transactions that equal = 2.2, he failed to show any link between the two
772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 04:18:13 PM
ATCSecure?

do whatever md5, sha, anything.

like this 'tuuiuauiyduayidsyauiydsaiuydsiuayd_[real_address]_lkjlkajslkdjalksjdalskdjalkjdsalkdjalks'


and post result.




Then when I submit address, Dev should tell input of whatever hash.

Again, I'm not doing that, if he knows the address then he should post it


773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
Do I lost all of my below unconfirmed transactions, almost 10 XC? I used to have 10 XC in my wallet. I have performed repairwallet for many times, not recovered. Not FUD.

Code:
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/6/11 19:36
To: XRM2qeBigPykpxLkS11ttxU73iVEdvZZg7
Debit: -0.056125 XC
Transaction fee: -0.00001 XC
Net amount: -0.056135 XC
Transaction ID: 3cbf080024c736ab36f7b5c8fbf675f55552f2ecc6f518613a0fc0d2e0824373

Code:
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/6/11 23:32
Debit: -7.75316 XC
Credit: 7.75316 XC
Transaction fee: -0.00001 XC
Net amount: -0.00001 XC
Transaction ID: 55f8a7daaaf032180489fd63c46bc20f7478825cedad3c67cb37435659f747bb

Code:
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/6/11 23:39
Debit: -8.46374 XC
Credit: 8.46374 XC
Transaction fee: -0.00001 XC
Net amount: -0.00001 XC
Transaction ID: 1211e6b906d890671e592a9e28ebeaf95e30288d055e246cd62a06dad105001a

Code:
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/6/11 23:48
To: XE3dFcdQ6aH81J6viKraZwauMk9zcP4Ehz
Debit: -8.46373 XC
Transaction fee: -0.00001 XC
Net amount: -8.46374 XC
Transaction ID: 41e20493cabf34c42fea3fbac5f4791a70c5735da324988708d84c791f9ee6f0

Code:
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 2014/6/11 23:56
To: XE3dFcdQ6aH81J6viKraZwauMk9zcP4Ehz
Debit: -0.71058 XC
Transaction fee: -0.00001 XC
Net amount: -0.71059 XC
Transaction ID: bb5311e8f93f21f0472b258b1f3bdded2715536663f8d0c2bc37c2832ea152a0

do they show up in the block explorer?  if not you may need to rescan w/ fresh wallet using private key imports
774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 04:11:09 PM

Yes he reverse MD5 every address on the block chain. Do you hear yourself?

Also dev never posted a MD5 before. Not sure why is he dogging now. Can we get over this already and move on?
yes hear myself loud & clear, just go back from the given block, desc. order. Sounds easy enough for me. Not even needed to scan all addresses.
Also please read back about previous tests, MD5 was online




exactly...
775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 03:55:54 PM
ATCSecure?


First tell dev to post md5 of  whateverattached_senderaddress.
Keep saying " ~ is not the address".

Not interested in.

+ tell dev, change address is yours.


WRONG - that change address is not related to the real source address


here is another one....


http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/7337f03cc1d0b726d1fb8b0b9e66bc6cc796853379b75d7dd193e6d5e9c33c4f#o0






same tx


sender -------- > mixer ----> payee
change<--------|

Grin  


First tell dev to post md5 of  whateverattached_senderaddress.

If he knows the address he should post it...


ATC is right not to post the MD5, someone could write a scrypt scanning the blockchain for all used addresses & checking there MD5.
With both start & begin addresses finding the route between is easy.

If md5 posted it should be in a encrypted file we can all download first. After the answer has been given, release the password.


there is no need, when/if somebody posts the address, I will provide the details to the other side of the transaction which will either prove they are correct or prove they are wrong
776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 03:45:16 PM
ATCSecure?


First tell dev to post md5 of  whateverattached_senderaddress.
Keep saying " ~ is not the address".

Not interested in.

+ tell dev, change address is yours.


WRONG - that change address is not related to the real source address


here is another one....


http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/7337f03cc1d0b726d1fb8b0b9e66bc6cc796853379b75d7dd193e6d5e9c33c4f#o0






same tx


sender -------- > mixer ----> payee
change<--------|

Grin  


First tell dev to post md5 of  whateverattached_senderaddress.

If he knows the address he should post it...
777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 03:32:46 PM
ATCSecure?


First tell dev to post md5 of  whateverattached_senderaddress.
Keep saying " ~ is not the address".

Not interested in.

+ tell dev, change address is yours.


WRONG - that change address is not related to the real source address


here is another one....


http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/7337f03cc1d0b726d1fb8b0b9e66bc6cc796853379b75d7dd193e6d5e9c33c4f#o0




778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
sorry I keep screwing up trying to host a node.. I get no transactions through my mixer...
Followed all (most?) directions
x11coin.conf below
listen=1
server=1
xmixer=1
rpcuser=der
rpcpassword=x
addnode=east01.xcnode.xc-official.com
addnode=west01.xcnode.xc-official.com
addnode=west02.xcnode.xc-official.com
reservebalance=550

I setup a new wallet with one address with 550.99999 XC
named it MIXER
run the xnode mainnet batch file...

ive been trying and keep updating to the latest wallets, I havent ever gotten a transaction flow through my wallet..
(version 1.41 since yesterday evening)

Does it have to be encrypted then allowed open? thats the only thing i can think of??

are you running via the batch file as well? you want to enable DNSSEED and disable IRC - which the batch file does for you (run-xc.bat)



I have that conf shown above and had been launching using the xnode mainnet batch file, I added xmixer to conf file because i never saw anything happen..  Ill try running with the run-xc batch and leaving the conf as it sits

just make sure that your RPCPASSWORD isn't what YOU POSTED

RPCPASSWORD - should be a random secure PW
its true, it should be random and secure to anyone wtaching do not use 1 character password!
thanks for replies ATC, I'll update in 12 hours if i see anything come through my wallet.

also update to v1.42...
779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 02:16:49 PM
sorry I keep screwing up trying to host a node.. I get no transactions through my mixer...
Followed all (most?) directions
x11coin.conf below
listen=1
server=1
xmixer=1
rpcuser=der
rpcpassword=x
addnode=east01.xcnode.xc-official.com
addnode=west01.xcnode.xc-official.com
addnode=west02.xcnode.xc-official.com
reservebalance=550

I setup a new wallet with one address with 550.99999 XC
named it MIXER
run the xnode mainnet batch file...

ive been trying and keep updating to the latest wallets, I havent ever gotten a transaction flow through my wallet..
(version 1.41 since yesterday evening)

Does it have to be encrypted then allowed open? thats the only thing i can think of??

are you running via the batch file as well? you want to enable DNSSEED and disable IRC - which the batch file does for you (run-xc.bat)



I have that conf shown above and had been launching using the xnode mainnet batch file, I added xmixer to conf file because i never saw anything happen..  Ill try running with the run-xc batch and leaving the conf as it sits

just make sure that your RPCPASSWORD isn't what YOU POSTED

RPCPASSWORD - should be a random secure PW
780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 11, 2014, 02:10:23 PM
sorry I keep screwing up trying to host a node.. I get no transactions through my mixer...
Followed all (most?) directions
x11coin.conf below
listen=1
server=1
xmixer=1
rpcuser=der
rpcpassword=x
addnode=east01.xcnode.xc-official.com
addnode=west01.xcnode.xc-official.com
addnode=west02.xcnode.xc-official.com
reservebalance=550

I setup a new wallet with one address with 550.99999 XC
named it MIXER
run the xnode mainnet batch file...

ive been trying and keep updating to the latest wallets, I havent ever gotten a transaction flow through my wallet..
(version 1.41 since yesterday evening)

Does it have to be encrypted then allowed open? thats the only thing i can think of??

are you running via the batch file as well? you want to enable DNSSEED and disable IRC - which the batch file does for you (run-xc.bat)

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