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7601  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: October 04, 2017, 08:47:27 PM
Gambling is not a profitable activity, it is a just for entertainment purposes wherein we gamble just to have fun. We can't always win when we gamble, so it doesn't make it profitable. I guess you may invest in gamling for you to have a profit.


Gambling is profitable to people who always have luck in it. Gambling is always risky in any aspect even with the small amount and with the huge amount. Many people will think with little investment we will make more money through gambling but it is always wrong. Gambling is always very risky and winning chances are very less.

Not just with luck. There are gambling games that doesn't need pure luck.

Im in my case have a great stats by doing sports betting so basically gambling is profitable to me. I don't believe that winning chances here is less like you are saying. It can only applied on house edge gambling games but not on a strategical based games.

Sportsbetting is sometimes profitable because some people claim that they know some knowledge regarding the game that is why they are going to win the game. When they are know what will happen then they will bet for it but everything depends on luck as well so sometimes prediction might be wrong and people could lose so it is not that profitable either
Sport betting is really good for those people who are good on analyzing stuffs on picking their team or players.It may not give constant wins but winning rate is much higher compared on loss which is really possible and i saw some people who are making it.They can able to sustain to play sports betting or even on poker because of theirs skills and knowledge together with experience.
7602  Economy / Economics / Re: The $1 Million Dollar Bitcoin on: October 04, 2017, 08:07:01 PM
Well it is really very hard that Bitcoin reach $1 Million, as the bitcoin's price since its creation is increasing slowly, and in the few coming years we can expect a maximum of $10k for 1 Bitcoin. But always there is a possibility to hit the $1 Million, but surely not in the near future.
Even on far future this thing wont really happen.Imagine if we do reach that $1M/BTC how much would be the entire marketcap? Insanely high,right? Even would surpass any cap into this planet which we can really presume that this thing is really an impossible thing.We should speculate lower and more realistic than on this one.
7603  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why I suddenly decided to leave gambling alone. on: October 04, 2017, 07:33:08 PM

I too agree with what you say because Gambling is not for money making, i think most of the people will lose through gambling. Everybody will start Gambling for fun only but in the middle, they will take it as serious and control their loss in gambling and start playing gambling again. When you loose something it is best to leave the gambling for goodness.

Some people will keep gambling and they will not quit. Im one of the people that dont quit as well but atleast I know my portion. Some people dont know when to stop and they used alot of money just to gamble. They lose everything and regret it but after that they repeat the same mistake again and again. So it is better to leave gambling but if you couldnt then just play for fun
Easy to say but would really be a hard thing for most gamblers to do such thing.Playing for fun is really advisable but most people would only forgot this thing because the aims on their minds are making fast profits by playing gambling.Quitting would be only possible if you dont have more money to pull out from your pocket.
7604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think you are a gambling expert? on: October 04, 2017, 06:41:13 PM
What would be an expert gambler, someone who makes profit on long term or someone who knows when to stop playing? I believe only in some games it's possible to be an expert gambler, those games where skills can change your results on long term and not only luck like Dice and Slot-Machine games. On these luck games you can be an expert just by not wasting too much money, because on long term you will surely lose...
Skills and experience would only be applicable into those games which do really need that but talking on dice and slot games there no gambling expert here on this field.You might win big time but you cant sustain this kind of game specially for long term because the longer you do engage with it risk of getting wrecked is there.Expert would be only possible on poker,sports bet and other related games.
7605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you even gamble? on: October 04, 2017, 06:05:26 PM
Gamblers divide into two main categories , those who gamble for fun and take it as a hobby or a fun activity , and those who sadly make their life -destroy- it through gambling . The 1st category are people who make enough money ftom their actual jobs , the second ones are just lazy people who just want to be rich very quickly .
This is a sad reality indeed on the field of gambling world.Players can really be differentiated on this two things and telling about the ratio there are lots of lazy people who do play gambling because on thinking on getting rich in an instant which you have been also saying up here.We should gamble only on the amounts that we can afford to lose.Once we put our money on gambling sites we should consider those funds are lost already.
7606  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: WBet7.com - Sport bet accept Ethereum (ETH) and Perfect Money on: October 03, 2017, 05:32:19 PM
Thanks for sharing this sportsbook it's so rare to see any sportsbook accepting eth nowadays. I have a few questions in mind. How much is the minimum deposit and withdrawal here(for ethereum)? There's nothing stated on the site. Also what about the withdrawals how long do yours get processed?
It's 0.01 ETH for both deposit and withdrawal. i don't understand why they only accept ETH, why not bitcoin? don't they know bitcoin is the king of crypto lol.
https://wbet7.com/help/payment-methods
Same question on which this thing boggle in my mind.Why eth only? was little bit surprised that they dont consider bitcoin as deposits. If they dont need any verifications then this would really be a good thing for those who do play sports betting on full anonymity.
7607  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I have found a long term and strong dice strategy. on: October 03, 2017, 04:19:52 PM
It is not about 50:50 chances everytime because 50:50 chances are sometime because sometime it is about 70:30 because if you are playing from heart and with skill then you can take away the game.
What the f does this mean?
Dice is not skill game. Write it down on paper and stick it to monitor.
Hes out of his mind.What the heck about 50:50 to become 70:30 when you play from your heart and skill. Seriously? No matter how hard you put your heart on playing dice you will still end up on the most common thing which is "losing money" if you arent lucky enough on that particular day.
7608  Other / Off-topic / Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin on: October 03, 2017, 03:42:40 PM
Youngsters can try for bitcoin.  But they have to be very careful. This technology can be complicated. Protect your investment. Learn about hot vs cold wallets. Software and hardware wallets. Learn about your keys and how transactions are signed and broadcast onto the network. Your knowledge will become the best measuring stick of value. Don't get overly concerned will the $ exchange rate at any given time. That's not the same thing as value.
As a new learner it is really our responsibility to learn up the basic informations regarding on to bitcoin.We should not just easily jump in because you are just joining on the trend and carelessly put up money without any plans.Youngsters should really need to learn up the things and understand on how bitcoin works in terms of usage and in terms of investment.
7609  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Problem Gamblers here who are in Debt ? on: October 03, 2017, 03:07:30 PM
I doubt if there is anybody who will admit that he is a problematic gambler who is in debt as a result of that. If we have such individual then the is need for therapy because its obvious he has not stopped to be here. I gamble as well but not to the point of using someone else's resources for that purpose and even my own money, there is a limit that I can go to gamble with it. When that is known before hand, problem and troubles will be avoided.
It's normal that gamblers deny that they're addicted on gambling,  as much as they can they will keep it secret or pretend that they can still manage it, even they are in debts they will keep on playing it.As I've said gamblers with Debt is not new. Many of Gamblers (Addict Gamblers) had debts and they need to realize that it will not cause good on them.
They wont realize such thing because they are already addicted to gambling which they would normally think up that they are not doing something wrong in them.Without having wary about on their current situation.Debts would really be normal specially to those gamblers who do have only an average earning compared into those rich gamblers they do really have the edge always since they do have the capability on wasting up their money.
7610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: October 03, 2017, 02:46:13 PM
i would say gambling few months back but as i started trading becauss of too many losses with gambling i now find trading more profitable and more easier than gambling in starting i used to panic when price well but slowly understood how the markets work and now make better money than i make from gambling
Trading is very good domain, It's more better than gambling for me, because when we talk about gambling we talk more about luck and not experience and skills, but in Trading we need an experience and knowledge about altcoins and the markets moves, So I think that Trading is a very good choice comapred to gambling, but we should learn how we can trades first, because without learning we can also lose a lot with trading.
i agree but getting skills in trading is not so hard you need to spend the required time you can't simply go check a coin and buy it you should have some basic common sense also and this involves money even if you spend hours and are able to make profit what's wrong in this gambling is simply luck which many people don't have
When it comes into trading you wont really get the way to be profitable specially on our first time or a total noob. Time and experience would really vary on here this is why the more time we do engage on trading the more we are molded to be a better trader which would potentially gain the skill as the time goes by which you can use for a lifetime.Gambling is just really dependent on pure luck.
7611  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: October 02, 2017, 06:22:34 PM
At a younger age I liked slot machines, but now they do not bring me such pleasure as playing roulette, poker or sports betting. I think gambling machines are good only for beginners.
I am totally disagree with you !!
First, I think the age and the type of game are completely independent especially when we're talking about men.
Second, I can't make myself an example but i know so many friends who are playing slot games while they're not beginners.


It all depends on individual and it is not depends on age group. Since begging I don't like much slot games but I'm active most in sports betting. It all depends on what you like and these for me these games are not so interesting so I didn't play these games much. Slot games and dice game no need learn much to start playing but after some time if gamblers learn other game skills then they may switch to get some change.

that is right, it really depends on personal preferences - I see both young and old who loves playing slot games and dice games.. and it is really obvious that in offline casinos, only adult are allowed to enter and you can really tell that there are many older people who loves playing slot games..
Most of those people are pensioners or dont have anything to do in their lives which just they do make it as a past time on playing slots into those casinos.I dont know why they do enjoy it too much because in my side i cant really say that it is indeed and enjoyable game.I do suck at it too which i dont even win even on just pulling that lever.
7612  Economy / Economics / Re: crypto is the future, make money of it on: October 02, 2017, 05:39:12 PM
I agree cryto will be future money, but it will take a long time before you can be rich with crypto, we need more user to boost the popularity and we need more transaction using crypto to boost the price, so we still need a lot of time to get rich with crypto
I also believe that crypto will become our future and I hope it would happen. In addition to that, I think there are of processess if we want crypto become our future money. As of now cryptocurrency and cryptocoin are become more popular than before.
Cryptos would really progress but talking that it would become a future money or lets say to become a global currency then it wont really be possible. Crypto would really just remain on this range which it is typically designed on new way payment system and other innovations but talking on making it as a future money then it has less chance to happen.
7613  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: October 02, 2017, 04:59:27 PM
Both are a bit risky. After all, in both cases there is a chance to lose everything you have. But investing is a more reliable way to multiply your money. Personally, I prefer investing. Despite the fact that it is a slower process.
Why investment is risky, there are many places in bitcoin which gives decent profit without any trouble like mining, trading and ICO offerings. If you have enough fund you can choose the investment option which is perfect for you.
In gambling we cannot expect the return at all. If you are completely fortunate you can get the amount in game but again you play means you will have to face lose for sure in gambling.

There is also a risk on those three investment, no guarantees that mining/trading/ICO offerings will always give you decent profit. There will be always a risk to lose your invested money on those 3 activities. If there is no risks to lose money on that three investment then all people will do it without any worries, but in fact? There are many failed/scam ICO, many people lose on trading, non-profitable mining, etc.
You said was right since theres no investment which dont have risk,all of them do have it the risk of losing money which is always been tied up.You are right if theres an investments whic doesnt have any risk then for sure all people would really be rich as of now since they can able to make money without worrying too much. Gambling is just really good for entertainment and cant really be considered as an investment.
7614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: October 02, 2017, 04:39:38 PM
I  think it depends if you are just buying the coin without checking it or doing some research or background check,
Or if you are just new you could consider it as gambling .

Some people have different strategy when they trade, sometimes people will consider everything before they trade but sometimes people will not and they make it looks like gamble. So this question actually depends on the person but for sure gambling is not the same as trading and we will have better chance in making money from trading compared with gambling
Trading would become gambling if you dont know on what you are doing.It would really be just like pure gambling just placing trades without any basis or knowledge but Trading with having preparations would really be a different story. We do know gambling is always basing on luck for you to win but on trading you would need skills and experience to be profitable on it.
7615  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Feeling regret after (Not trading, not gambling, etc...) on: October 01, 2017, 04:17:00 PM
Regret is never needed. When a mistake is made, identify it, remember it and do not make it again. Losing funds is the way that you find the perfect system for you. Bouncing from one non-working technique to a better one and then another is the learning curve and even the most veteran traders make mistakes, the difference is that they move on quickly and learn permanently.
Theres no perfect system on this world but somehow we can make our own ways which we are comfortable with.Regrets is really hard to set-aside because our mind do normally reacts when we saw a certain thing that we did expect already to happen but we do hesitate to put up funds because of our doubts.Those things are considered as mistakes and we should really learn from it.
7616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If anyone gives you grief about Gambling, tell them to read this on: October 01, 2017, 03:31:26 PM
One thing interesting about gambling is, its theoretically possible to turn $0.01 into more than a million dollars inside a month. It fits the old, "if you were offered a job where your pay was $0.01 on the first day & every day it doubled for a month, would you work there" analogy. 31 straight wins of even odds (compounding interest) can turn $0.01 into more than $1M.

The earning potential is extremely high. Which is probably why is alluring to many.

There isn't a big difference between gambling and investment in stock markets, bonds, forex and similar trade based platforms. Investment carries less risk, and lower risk is usually correlated with lower earning potential. That's the main difference.

That's pure, unfettered delusion.

Anyone who jumps into it expecting it to make them rich is certifiable. There are skill based corners like poker. The rest is pissing in the wind.

Stock markets and forex are based on verifiable factors like earnings, profit and economic conditions. Throwing coins at a dice game, no.
They do really have different categories when it comes on how to make money on those games. Poker and sports betting would really somehow can be studied with just our skills and knowledge and a little bit luck for sure we would really have the edge. Forex and Stocks are on different story but these things arent really relying on luck alone.
7617  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 01, 2017, 12:35:35 PM
I am forced to return the opportunity to have fun and try my luck again. It's such an amusing kind of pleasure that I can not simply refuse even if I became addicted to it.
You are really a gambling addict since you cant able to resist on playing it and as a friendly suggestion better not to tolerate too much on what you are doing you might not feeling the effects as of now but later on if addictive is severe already possible big problems will surely happen and on this case why most gamblers are being wrecked down.
7618  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: October 01, 2017, 11:59:37 AM
I had an amazing day with the FJ midweek dice madness  Cheesy
Gathered a couple of friends and we got together in a pursuit of the FJ Jackpot
I believe I've placed around 200 000 bets so far today just by myself

It's pretty fun
Together we placed around half a million bets, only 5% chance of winning the jackpot though  Sad
Still a couple of hours to go and hit it  Cheesy
If we hit a million, there's a 10% chance some of us will win Cheesy

EDIT: Didn't win, had fun though xD


I usually play this and I am hoping to win jackpot(or at least 5 lions).
So far i won 3 times 10$ and today 100$.
Someone was very lucky this week and won mega moolah's $7.7M  Smiley

Sweet win marlboroza but that lucky person who won $7.7m, I bet he wasn't able to sleep for a week. Lol
Getting $100 for today isnt bad after all. Even myself only stuck up on $10. For that extreme lucky fella who won $7.7M have surely sleepless nights because of this once in a lifetime opportunity to become rich. Hes destined to get that golden pot.
7619  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the future of gambling on: October 01, 2017, 11:12:24 AM
I don't think mobile devices, especially some of the smaller screens, give you enough screen space for certain games like poker. It also makes it much easier to make mistakes as you're tapping around the screen which can lead to some expensive mistakes. I think desktops and laptops still have the best controls, but it really depends what game you are playing and whether any skill is involved.
When it comes to other games you would really need to play it on desktop and as you said if you do play poker in a mobile it wont really be a good idea for sure you would able to do misclicked selections which would really be the reason for you to lose up but for dice and slots games i think it should be fine. Future of gambling would still be there as long there are gamblers who are willing to lose up money.
7620  Economy / Economics / Re: Some things to consider before starting a business on: October 01, 2017, 10:05:13 AM
Now we can see a lot of business opportunities that exist around us, be it pure online business or offline business that is go online. However, the number of business opportunities does not necessarily allow us to choose and run the business we want.

There are a few things we need to consider and start preparing the business prepares capital, the second prepares the workforce, the third is the provision of raw materials as well as the techniques in running the business, marketing the business optimally, then profit a business, risk a business, concerning business competition and pay attention to the latest business management is the facility and the fringe

Of course before starting a traditional business or an online business you really need a money to fund it no matter how small or big it is, that's the way it works as there is no real business that has no capital or expenditures. If someone really wants to make a business in his/her own idea he must prepare to the fullest and create a concrete plan to support the foundation of it and to lessen the chance of failure.
You would really need money since when we are talking about investment and you cant call it a business if theres no money involvement. There are lots of things to be considered first before you would able to build up your own business so that it wont easily failed on a short period of time.Having back up plans is always been suggested in any unexpected things to happen.
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