Our campaign manager didn't have enough time to finish the spreadsheet today, sorry!
To cheer you up I'll announce some good news!
If you choose to get paid in KMD, then we will give you 25% bonus!
After the ICO we calculated the exchange rate, and it is: 0.00012907 BTC/KMD, or 7747.73 KMD/BTC
With the bonus you can get 9684 KMD/BTC!
P.S. don't send me your addresses in PM (they will go nowhere), also announcing them in this thread will not help. We will give you instructions once we move to that phase (after the spreadsheet is ready)
Sorry for the delays!
Best regards
This one is a good announcement from the OP, imagine guys it's +25% and considering they have a successful ICO there's a great chance the price will pump if you guys will not dump easy. For people who does not really need money the soonest, they will prefer to receive KMD as maybe one way to support the project. |
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how many people are lucky but lose,How else have no relation with luck but uses several strategy that allows them to make earnings, and also how many people have no experience in games but who make big pot, and others who uses the same strategy that worked for other people but does not work for them. So; do you believe that earnings in gambling is depending on luck?  I believe so. It is really depends on the player if were too excited to earn , we bet a lot that we cant even afford to lose. The result is either we win or lose. I think it is really depends on your luck no matter what strategy we use or even how many times we played things will not went right as we plan . In the end we still lose, it's all about the money as greedy people bet what they cannot afford to lose and though they are having the skills of making good bets but with lack of decent bankroll in the long run they will still lose even if the game has no house edge. |
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Stopping with gambling is not easy but its possible without any doubts, its just that you have to set your mind on it and keep believing in yourself stay reminding yourself to it!
It's easy to stop when your problem is not too big, the more you can stop early the better. All in our life is just sort of gamble because the future is uncertain but when we are making a decision that we like to make money on the hardest game in the world which is gambling, I think that's too risky and stupid for some people who does not have a qualifying skills to succeed, and this would result to bigger problem. |
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Why not, why can't it be used for good? We have even had Bitcoin donated for charity cause example is "Bitcoin 100 which has run its cause". In a world there will be people who are good and some who are naturally bad and Bitcoin is a tool since its money and can be used to achieve any of the objectives depending on whose hands it found itself.
It can be use for good as the main purpose of bitcoin actually is for the good of the people, you cannot control those people who are making bad activities using bitcoin because they have the freedom to spend their bitcoins on the way they want, but the question is not even the right question IMO as you are indirectly accusing bitcoin that it is solely use for illegal or bad activities. |
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Selling everything is not a good strategy because the future of bitcoin is still blurry it could go up to 1000$ or it could go down really low the best thing to do is hold half of it and sell the other half so in both cases you still haven't lost
Good idea ,playing safe ! We dont know what will happen this nextyear. I agree on you ,sell the half and the othet half keep it. And in that case it is balance. If you need some cash, then just sell what the amount that you need. But if you mostly don't need to sell some of it, then just completely shut your wallet and just wait for the price increase for you will generate bigger amount of profit. The more patiently waiting you will, the higher possible income you will make but there's no assurance for it, for the chance of bitcoin to collapse is there and don't set it aside. It's not like that, if you are treating your bitcoin as your investment you should be discipline not to touch it until your reach your target. Your expenses should be coming from your income in your job or from different king of investment you are doing that gives you daily return. In bitcoin, it's a long term investment and should be treated that way. |
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Well I can't buy Ferrari from my winnings but I can have a good holidays and that is super cool for me
I wish I could buy ferrari from my winnings also. But I can say that I'm not rich from gambling and I can't even get good amount of money in gambling. What I am just doing is gamble what I afford to lose and doesn't hope for any big amount of return. I guess those people who are becoming rich from gambling are those people who are really lucky. Yeah those people are one in a million who get rich in gambling. And I'm not one of those lucky ones. I just gamble for fun and sometimes to kill time but still learned to manage my money and know when to stop. But still hoping to win in a lottery so I could be rich. only few people that really become rich through gambling. those people are who quit immediately after hit a huge winning. hard to hold yourself to not to gamble again. people that have a high level of greed might would never become rich. due winning after winning they would gamble it all again , no doubt money desire would never end. Those who might win the lottery, they have all the luck in this world and those wise people quit immediately and divert their funds in other business activity. If given a chance to win millions in gambling I would certainly withdraw that directly and build my long time dream business. I will be very happy to convert my earnings in gambling to a legitimate business. |
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There is no way to anyone to gamble without loose, sure some people may be able to end the day with profit, but those profit requires lucky and some kind of strategy, but in the end we know that gamble wont allow anyone to reach or make huge profits, just some lucky people are able to such.
Yes there is no way to gamble without losing. Gambling is just created for the gamblers to lose in able the house edge will generate income. So if you are hoping to gamble without losing. Then it is better that you will just simply quit gambling and totally forget your gambling satisfaction. But if are that hard enough and looks for a way, try find a way to reduce losing. It's not actually for us to lose, that kinda unacceptable statement. Maybe the right word to say it is, gambling is created for us to be entertain while the gambling sites are created by the operators to do business and to make profit. Although, it's not directly said but we should understand that already that we are losing in gambling and they are making profit. |
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Gambling can never be considered as a investment, because with investment you have assured pay back after certain time period but with gambling nothing is assured. So in my view gambling can be considered a earning source and not as a pure investment.
I think you misunderstood about this thing though, gambling is sure like investing though but with higher risk to get back what you desire. It is not always that you can get your money because of the risk but if you can outcome that risk you will get more better payout mean while if you only investing with some small amount I dont think that you can get some penny from investment Yeah he misunderstands that investment will give assured pay back after investing. No, it is not the right way he thinks. All types of investments are risky and it depends on the investor on how he will take the risk and willing to accept the fact that he will lose. The same thing in gambling, it is risky. You have the chance to win and lose, gambling is just like investing your money the way you want it and to risk it higher. Investing for me is when you were able to minimize the risk and maximize your chances, still there's a risk, right? So, the activity of gambling alone is too risky for me since you are playing against the house advantage, the only way you can turn things to be in your favor is when you own a gambling site or invest in existing gambling sites. |
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The best way I think to manage money is to understand that you do need to save and can control the urges to not buy your wants and just pay your responsibilities. You can manage your money through apps, knowing what you paid and how much you save. The first thing when you get your salary or wage, you take an amount already to save. You take a part of it to savings, and apart of it from responsibilities. You should always keep in mind to save then spend what's remaining rather than to spend then save what's remaining. It's a sure way to have savings and completely manage it using an application. That's how I do it.
You don't even have an app for managing your money. What you need is discipline, if you know the importance matter of saving your money and spending it in right way. You can just simply identify how to manage your money properly. And that's one of the way to best manage your money by knowing the your wants and needs, focus more to your needs and forget for a while those wants. App is not even necessary as you can certainly right it down if you do not know how to use an app. What we need here is the will to save and we can only do that if we will be able to manage our money very well. Knowing our priorities is one of the factor to be considered, having a future plan of investment is good so you will be force to set up an amount of investment. |
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When betting - either sportsbetting or betting in poker, you get to decide/pick your spots that are +EV situations (subjective in sportsbetting, of course). In gambling, not so much.
I am sorry but I was not able to snip out your explanation, in my own knowledge regardless of the type of games as long as there is money involve it is considered as gambling, now since sports betting involves money then it's obviously gambling. |
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Just follow your instict and you will be fine  And by the its a gamble we really dont know what will happen after we bet so just allow your assessment to win inside your mind and wait for the result if we are lucky enough for sure its gonna win. Nothing is needed but to wait and see just always remember to enjoy so win or lose you will find happiness with your game. Our instinct are wrong most of the time especially in sports betting, when we see the line we grab it easily because we feel that our favorite team is going to win in the game. Without knowing that bookmakers knows how a typical gambler reacts so they will set the line to be deceiving and make it easy for us to choose the bet but in the end we know our bets had lose. |
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I heard that when you play small number of bets you have a chance.. How's that true in sports betting and base on everyone's experience.
There's no science to this. You're either good at sports betting, lucky at sports betting, a mixture of both or neither. You obviously stand a better chance at winning & winning regularly if you have a certain amount of knowledge on a particular sport. Luck will never be enough to be a successful sports bettor since you need to be able to take advantage of opportunities that will present themselves and in order to see them you will need skill so you can see if a bet gives you value or not. It will never be enough if you are playing for profit, luck is just something that can give us a temporary win but in the long run it will not make be consistent. Aiming to achieve success in gambling requires you to be hardworking enough and you can do that if you will continue to study to develop your skills. |
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The definition of gambling is entertainment, and entertainment is not a sin. It will depend on the effect of such gambler's life. It's like bitcoin, bitcoin can be use for illegal activities yet we cannot call bitcoin is for illegal activities and should be prohibited, the action of a user is what makes it a sin IMO.
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Talking about gambling games and internet investment, both are risk. They aren't a good option if you want real profit without danger.
If you use your money on any of them there is a high risk to don't make profit and lose part of your money. However if you want to choose one of them, choose Investment and choose a low risk one, no hyip or ponzies. Don't wait to earn income to live without work... It's just an extra.
The risk is always there in investment, however you can reduce your risk while increasing your chances of making profit by making a complete study and I would recommend that instead of gambling which obviously would not do good for us, why not invest in reputable gambling sites. As long as you will diversify your investment you will be fine... |
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Gambling is not super wrong but the fact is that you just should not do it too much because it stays something that is risky and can get you in problems.
You just should do it sometimes for the enjoyment and nothing more.
I agree. Gambling is wrong in comparison with sport or education. And yet there are things much worse than that people can be addicted to. For example, drugs which obviously are not good for health at least and adrenaline seeking which is too dangerous. gambling is dangerous depend of a gambler because if that gambler doesn't have any control in his/her money/bitcoin there is always a possibility that gambling will always be dangerous and risky. Gambling can be dangerous, but so what? You are taking that risk consciously to look for potential profits or to entertain yourself. Either way, you have agreed to take on that danger as a part of the terms and conditions. Gambling is not wrong. I don't think so. It realpy depends on one person's perspective.. and we have to acknowledge and respect their own opinion towards gambling. Gambling is for fun and also to make atleast a little profit if you win. But if you really abuse yourself to it and lose all your money then it will become wrong. That is what others do, they are abusing gambling and instead of thinking that way. They are making gambling as their primary source of income. And that's why gambling is becoming wrong for all of us, we tend to think that we will become rich for very fast way because of gambling. But that is really wrong and will just lead us into losing a lot of money in our pockets. Abusing gambling does not exist in the vocabulary of a gambling operators, we might think we are abusing gambling but at the end of the day we are abusing ourselves as the outcome will always be losing. It's hard to tolerate that kind of behavior, we need to change so we can still enjoy gambling for good. |
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Always trust your instinct!
Your only partner when you are playing alone. Instinct.  Hit and run for me. Win and a little and run. Come back again tomorrow and see if I am still lucky then do it over and over. Needs control with your rage if you lose. lol for this but i think its a good strategy to avoid for losing bit money and i am really agree with you. its not need much time to do this and we only need little win, leave the games as quick as we can, come back again tomorrow. but this ways can not be a solution in everytime we playing gambling because we can not win every time too. so control yourself while you are win and don't be too greedy As long as you are in control you can still continue but make sure you have your goal of winning otherwise you will not be enjoying your day as greediness will strike, once it strikes FYI no one will be success as we will end up losing with gambling. |
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No, the only safe way to gamble is to stay away, or play with tiny ammounts, and nevere cross your first wall, lets say you go to casino with 10 dollars to spend, if you loose those you shouldnt invest more 20 trying to recover those, in the end i do believe gamble was made to change our life, the purpose were to be profit or help people, not make them addicted.
No are not gambling at all when you stay away in gambling and your advise does not answer the question "Is their any safe methods to gamble?". No risk at all because you will not enjoy.. |
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i've been making a good income from poker... but it's no exactly gambling(and i'm still not rich  ) Anyway, to me gambling is a hobby not a work. i'm sure you can find a few successful gamblers, but they are rare. All of that also depends on how one looks at about gambling, and I would argue that everyone who holds that gambling is the place to look for profits are those who will never get what they think could be said or they will become addicted and just get the losses. So it all comes from our mind, if our mind is doing something right then the results obtained also the right thing Awareness is important, by understanding gambling we know that we can win and we can lose depending on our luck and the way we do it. If we have tried many times and we were not able to achieve good results, then it's not good to gamble at all and you will never be rich in gambling. We should learn that it's not for everyone to make money in gambling but for everyone to enjoy. |
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There is no easy way to make profit with gambling. Honestly, only Poker has some learning methods and you can win a lot if you reach a high skill. Any other type of gambling (99,9%) you're hostage of your luck. It's like flip a coin. So, you have to read books, watch videos, learn with experienced people, maybe you gonna lose some money before reach a higher ground, so, you can make some profit.
I disagree too if you're just mentioned Poker as the only way/easier way to make profit. Sports betting is the other way, you need to be expereinced in sports and you''ll make decent profit once you doing that. See CarlesPuyol's pick on his prediction thread for refference. All gambling have the same level of profit, and the difference of each gambling one with the other is gambling how to play. If they can do the game properly then I am very confident that the advantages they get also the maximum. I am very concerned with all the people doing gambling, for the most part they gamble in a way that is not good or they are very greedy when doing these same things, gambling that makes the game so bad The thing is our skills matters and people does not have the same skills in gambling and since gambling is one of the hardest way to make money as per statistics that there are a lot of losers compared to winners. That has been proven as most of the gambling sites are profitable, and I am happy to inform everyone that I have a profit investing in gambling sites. |
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...
Well in both you are playing against others, being just a casino script or whales, as you are putting your coins into a risk i would consider the same, even knowing a small difference between, that is be able to control the loss or winnings when you risking to gamble. Base on facts, in gambling we have a less chance of winning while trading we have a great chance of becoming successful if and only we will have to work for it. In gambling it's different as most of time you rely on luck but in trading you cannot rely on luck alone as the more you are knowledgeable you will develop your skills. |
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