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7641  Economy / Economics / Re: Over 26,000 Blockchain Projects Were Developed Last Year; 8% Remain Active on: November 19, 2017, 10:14:01 PM
If we'll filter out all those scam ICO's that only maintain their github repositories to trick investors into thinking that they are developing something, we'd still be left with a lot of genuine projects that have failed. I believe that the reason for that is the fact that blockchain technology can't be easily applied to everything, because it's very inefficient and sophisticated so it simply doesn't work in many cases. Bitcoin succeeded because it is based on game theory in a form of its mining, so if a blockchain project can't have something similar to secure its ledger, it loses all benefits of blockchain and is left with all the downsides.
7642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you get active gambler referrals in Casino sites through campaigns? on: November 19, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
I'm seen the same situation - majority of my referrals are not playing or playing a bit with faucets, but a few of them wagered quite a big sums, so I got a very nice referral commission. It seems like the best way to get referrals is to post in on your own personal site with big traffic, especially if it's a site about gambling - last year, when BTC was at $400-600 some owners of casino reviewing sites reported earning a few BTC per year through referral commission. But amount of referrals is not the only goal of signature campaign, the much bigger effect of it is that it raises brand awareness so when people are regularly exposed to ads they know the names of different casinos and are more likely to visit them in the future manually.
7643  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: COINBASE WARNING: Coinbase preventing users from *SENDING* coin to specific addr on: November 19, 2017, 03:57:49 PM
This is a good example of why decentralization is the key feature of Bitcoin and we must do everything we can to keep Bitcoin as decentralized as possible. Online wallets like Coinbase are not much different from banks, since they have power to dictate their users what to do with their money, which is exactly why Bitcoin was created at the first place. The only correct way to use Bitcoin is to run a full node and be your own banks - and this is why people like Craig Wright who want Bitcoin's network to have 10 or 20 nodes are wrong and malicious.
7644  Economy / Economics / Re: Are cyoptoeconomics changing economic theory? on: November 19, 2017, 01:01:56 PM
What do you think cryotocurrencies will do the current economical environment we have today? Tokenization is a way to digitalise assets, and this might force us to rethink value, as it is perceived today.
What is your opinion on this?

Tokenization is not really that revolutionary, as digitalization of assets in centralized manner has been done for years already. But what is revolutionary in cryptoeconomics is the fact that those systems are working completely without any central organ. Even economists from Austrian school didn't predict that there will ever be decentralized money - they were advocating for money issued by private parties. Bitcoin would also interest those who study game theory, because game theory lies in its foundation. Right now we see that some economists call Bitcoin a bubble because they've been living in a world of stocks and assets for their whole life, so they refuse to understand how Bitcoin can have any value if its not creating any profit. So, we'll definitely see some additions to economic theory that will study Bitcoin - the only question is if they would eventually get accepted into mainstream or not.
7645  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Building the first Labor-Based Currency on: November 19, 2017, 12:49:43 AM
There is already a cryptocurrency like that, it's called Raiblocks and it's "mined" by human workers who solve captcha and claim coins from a centralized faucet server. You can come up with your own ideas how to implement a human-based PoW, but it will just be an experiement with almost zero chance of becoming an actual widespread currency. Value exists when there are people who are willing to buy it, and buyers don't really care how it was produced, they only care about its property. So, even if you'll take many people and make them work hard on creating a currency, the market can easily decide that its value is lower than amount of work spent on creating it.
7646  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1.7 Trillion USD - and a question for bitcoin investors on: November 18, 2017, 09:22:26 PM
There may be some similarities, but there are also many differences between dotcom bubble and cryptocurrency growing.

Stocks of dotcom companies were traded institutionally while cryptocurrencies are traded on their own specialized exchanges, meaning that it's less likely that unknowledgeable  people are investing in cryptocurrencies. They have not yet gone fully mainstream, so it's different from the dotcom bubble.

Also, cryptocurrencies had their starting value at near zero prices, so it's less extreme to see them growing dozens and thousands of times than seeing the same with companies that are supposed to have their stocks reflect the profitability of the company.

And lets not forget that some companies have survived the bubble and now prosper, so even if many altcoins will die, like many experts are expecting, Bitcoin will survive and keep growing in the long run.
7647  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [2017-11-17] Bitcoin Cash Might Soon Be Worth 1/10 of Bitcoin on: November 18, 2017, 12:15:29 PM
There is some news that one big exchange will dump all BCH and credit all users with BTC,and that some others might follow.But for now price of BCH is quite stable above 1000$,so I think the crew behind this project can be satisfied with this price.

I think that BCH can not do any more damage to BTC,perhaps there will be more attempts in future but will be difficult for them to do this at the previous level.I think all who join and buy BCH now see that was just pump and dump scheme of one altcoin,some get profit and many are lost.

Lets just hope that those who are losing money with BCH are only pump organizers like Roger Ver, and average Bitcoin users who have claimed their airdrop are the ones who will profit from it the most. It would be very sad if it will turn out that sites like Bitcoin.com managed to convince some people that BCH is "the real Bitcoin" and made them to buy and hodl it. Because BCH has no future, it will be used simply as a tool for attacking BTC until the attackers will decide to stop.
7648  Economy / Economics / Re: Earning Passive Income of BTC without reducing the amount too much? on: November 18, 2017, 12:20:58 AM
Have you heard about casino bankroll investing? I've been doing this for more than a year on two different sites, in short you deposit your money into casino so they can become a part of their bankroll and used to pay winning players. When I've just started, the returns were quite high sometimes, you could get 5-10% at some months, but now many people have invested their coins, so the profits are more dilluted and are around 0.5-2% per month. This is probably one of the safest way to get additional profit from your BTC, since it's  legitimate business and not some hyip or ponzi, but you still have to do your own research and never invest more than you can afford to lose - there's always a risk of hacking or scamming.
7649  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-12] Analyst: “In 4 years BTC mining won’t be profitable anymore” on: November 17, 2017, 10:57:53 PM
Mining was introduced with only one simple goal - to prevent double spending. In Bitcoin's network costs of double spending attack outweigh potential gains from this attack, making it unprofitable, thus discouraging people from doing it. In the future, when Bitcoin's value will be very high, it might be more attractive than today to try to make a double spending attack, so it's important that the network has to always be secured by enough hashpower. But again, there will be a new self-regulating mechanism for it - if Bitcoin's value will be high because of interest from users, the total amount of fees per block will also be high, so more hashpower will be working on securing the network. If the interest and price will be low, than double spending attack will also be less profitable, and less hashpower will be needed.
7650  Economy / Speculation / Re: Value of Bitcoin after 21 mil. on: November 17, 2017, 10:15:24 PM
After all the 21 mil. Btc will be extracted, how do you think the value will change ?


We don't need to hit exactly 21 million coins to start seeing effects of shrinking supply, one of the reason why Bitcoin's price is growing is because we had a halving last year. And there are a few more big havlings left until we'll hit 98-99% of total supply, which means there still a lot of space for price increase for this supply shrinking effect. But as Bitcoin's supply will be approaching it's limit, demand will turn into the main force behind Bitcoin's price. Also, Bitcoin's supply could be viewed as negative, because from time to time people will be losing their private keys, thus leading to a permanent removal of corresponding coins from economy, but this effect would only be noticeable in a very long run.
7651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it more profitable to Hold BTC or buying a lower price and selling at higher? on: November 17, 2017, 09:27:23 PM
hello experts,
                   Is it more profitable to Hold BTCBTC or buying a lower price and selling at higher?
Thanks,



The second one can be described as trading, and while it's much more profitable than just hodling, when executed perfectly, it comes with a risk of losing your money - i.e. you can sell and it will only go higher, or you can buy and it will crash shortly after. In general, it's better to just hodl, because to succeed in trading you have to spend all your time on it doing different researches - for most people it's better to just work their job and use their salary to buy more BTC, or simply put some portion of their saving one time and wait for long term gains.
7652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it smart to day trade BTC? on: November 17, 2017, 06:52:51 PM
Hi,

Basically instead of only waiting for big dips to buy and highs to sell, I am talking about selling at regular high and buy it when it dips $100 lower for example many times a day.

Say you have 10 BTC, this should give you $1000 minus the fees no? So doing it many times through the day you might add a new BTC to your wealth?

Is this reasonable or is there something I am missing?



Thanks in advance.

Day trading can be viewed as very close to gambling when it comes to Expected Value (EV) and the fact that they both are zero sum games (someone has to lose in order for others to win). There are people who have an edge in trading by having access to yet unknown publicly information, or by having huge amounts of money to dictate the price. So, for a newbie day trading can easily have negative EV, meaning they will be losing more than they earn. It's also hard to apply traditional trading theory to Bitcoin, because it's very different from traditional assets, for which those theories were developed.
7653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DISCUSSION: Is Bitcoin Silently Losing the War to Privacy Coins? on: November 17, 2017, 03:13:10 PM
Everyone has heard how some people claim that Bitcoin doesn't scale because it's blocks are too small, but the real reason for that problem is that our Internet connection doesn't have enough bandwidth to allow average users to process thousands of transactions per second. So, what does that have to do with privacy coins? Well, their transactions tend to weight much more than those of traditional coins, because of all those complex signature algorithms that create that privacy - hence, privacy coins are even less scalable than Bitcoin. Of course you could increase their block size, but it would cause node centralization, which would quickly defeat any privacy. So, private coins right now can't become a widespread currency, they can only serve as store of value.
7654  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-16] Newsflash: Bitcoin Price Returns Above $7,500, Hits 7-Day High on: November 17, 2017, 12:52:19 AM
I've noticed that sometimes there's a pattern when Bitcoin tends to rapidly increase in price when it overcomes some obstacle - recently it was August 1st with potential split due to UASF and BCH hardfork, then it was Chinese ban on exchanges, and a huge pump for BCH spiced with massive shill raiding. So, instead of damaging Bitcoin all those negative events actually strengthen it - they have showed us on practice how resilient Bitcoin is, so people are less scared that it can crash because of some fork or other attack.
7655  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Each day goes by and it gets harder and harder to own a full BTC on: November 16, 2017, 06:29:27 PM
Who cares?  One Bitcoin is a completely arbitrary figure.  If the value rises, that shouldn't change the amount of value (probably measured in fiat) that you are willing to invest in BTC.

nah. psychology counts.

it's not robots putting money into this, it's people. and people like seemingly arbitrary figures and measurements. whole lives revolve around them.

there'll come a time, maybe sooner than we expect, that owning a whole coin is completely out of the question so one is gonna be fretting about it. until then it's still a thing.

I think one of the big reasons for this psychological effect is that "Bitcoin" is both the name for the network and it's main unit of currency, which makes people more focused on a value of one whole coin. Also, many people who are not familiar with Bitcoin may think that it can't be split into smaller units - they are used to fiat money where basic units like dollar or euro can usually be split into 100 small coins. But I don't think that it's a problem for Bitcoin, because anyone who gets interested in it quickly learns about how it works, so only a small amount of people gets discouraged from entering because of price.
7656  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My advice to Bitcoin newbies: relax on: November 16, 2017, 02:52:45 PM
This is not an ordinary "price" swing.  The end is near for legacy Bitcoin.


Said the guy 4 days before Bitcoin was back up to the mid-7000s price it was before the crash hahahahah


Apparently you are the OPs audience. As he said, learn to RELAX and not freak out over every dip. Your "the end is near for legacy Bitcoin" crash was completely erased in one week. With Bitcoin now preparing to break out into new ATHs in the coming days.

I'm sure that he is just a paid troll who spreads FUD for people like Roger Ver and Jihan Wu when they want to pump their BCH. Genuine newbies are usually very unsure about everything while this guy was pretty confident that Bitcoin is dead. And it's really important that we, as Bitcoin community, oppose those shills on every media to not let their lies misguide newbies and lose their money by investing in worthless altcoins that has no other purpose than to damage Bitcoin.
7657  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-12] Xapo: Biggest Bitcoin Companies Could Move to Bitcoin Cash or Eth on: November 16, 2017, 02:49:19 PM
I believe that this is nothing more than a bluff - it's a basic rule of economics that companies are following their customers, and not vice versa. They may offer their customers additional options by featuring altcoins, while still keeping Bitcoin as their main focus - but if they will simply leave Bitcoin behind and force all their users to switch to altcoins, this could easily destroy their company, because their customers will simply refuse to accept it. If people haven't switched to altcoins during all these years on their own, than any efforts of companies and miners can't force them to do so.
7658  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How community will stop Chinese database [BCH] on: November 16, 2017, 03:39:12 AM
Guys how do you think, can we defend true bitcoin from Chinese miners?
I think they will continue to attack bitcoin in the future.
Also easy hardfork from bch looks like it's private data base and it can be done whenever.

Bitcoin is based on a big assumption that people behave rationally - they do things to maximize their profit while avoiding operating at a loss. But what has been happening recently is that some people are willing to take losses - in a form of spending their money to pump and promote Bitcoin forks, for a long term chance to take control over Bitcoin. For them it's like a risky investment, so to defend ourselves against it we should make it as unprofitable as possible - we should never buy any forks, only sell them, we should also educate others about how forks are just fake coins. Lastly, there's always an option to switch PoW if majority of miners will go completely rogue.
7659  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to quit now, network getting worst on: November 15, 2017, 01:04:22 AM
Network getting worst....there still about 90K unconfirmed transaction and transactions cost become so high.

If this keep happening, price will drop into shit soon....it could lead price to below 5K soon
There seem no way to solve this network problem, transaction per-second more higher than bitcoin network can handle.

I'm not crazy enough to spent fee 15 - 50 $/transaction. If i only sent 1 transaction per day, maybe just fine.

At moment, transactions very low, only about 6tx/second (average for 24 hours). If there bigger transactions, definitely there will be more unconfirmed transaction, doesn't matter how much fee you willing to pay.




Bitcoin is not going to die because of some temporary disruptions caused by manipulations with BCH's mining profitability via pumping it's price and having broken difficulty adjustment system. It already happened once, when BCH got slightly more hashpower for a brief moment, and we had spam attacks many times that caused the same disruption - and guess what, Bitcoin's price was never affected and Bitcoin grew to the current level regardless of those attacks and FUD. This is because altcoins don't really solve the scaling problem - they simply trade security for a small bump to capacity, which is not enough to become a widespread currency, no matter how big your blocks are.
7660  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-13] Bitcoin retains its crown as crypto king on: November 14, 2017, 10:50:12 PM
The truth is, Bitcoin is the king not only because of the network effect, but because it is actually the best cryptocurrency out there - it has the longest development history, it has the highest number of developers and most of them are professionals, Bitcoin is the safest network out of all cryptocurrencies - only Bitcoin can be entrusted with hundreds of billions worth of value. Altcoins often promise some flashy features, but at the same time they are buggy and have to go through official hard forks often - this is why people aren't actually adopting them as a currency. With money people want stability and security first, and that's exactly what Bitcoin gives them.
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