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7701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: November 07, 2016, 03:41:39 AM
How can anyone even discuss to allow children to play gambling games. Gambling, even for many adults is too dangerous .. It is just absurd!

Well there are a lot of bitcoin users here who are addicted gamblers and hence the thread exists. Even some of them are under18 and they can still gamble because their identity is anonymous in the internet and that their parents are not supervising their internet activity.
More under 18 age are gambling on bitcoin even its illegal in my country to gamble hehe,im sure government on my country will not surf all gambling sites and even they block that gambling sites there still mamy who can access by using other IP network bypass and anonymously using bitcoins.

Here in my country they don't care if they are going to gamble regardless if it is with bitcoin or not. Because you can just find some basketball games with bet.

And the teams that are fighting for it are the so called 'kids division' and that is starting the mind of those kids that gamble is fine.

I'm really against this type of game plays that it is associated with betting.
That situation is not so serious when you relate it to gambling, it's just normal in every sport that you have to put bets to put your best effort to win. It's not similar with sports betting in the internet where you can gamble all you want even in a daily basis.

Kids should not learn sports betting as it's big boy's game.
7702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 07, 2016, 03:36:42 AM
A lot of people here gamble to become rich, but some do it for fun.

The question is, if you wake up tomorrow with 50 million dollars, would you still gamble for fun, or would you forget about gambling and do other stuff? Personally I think I would still gamble. I do it now, and I know I realistically will never get rich off gambling, because I barely do it and I don't risk much money, just for fun sometimes, to test my luck.
So if I had a lot of money, I would do bigger gambles, but they would still enter in the "for fun" amount (for the new 50 million standard). For example, gambling 1K a month would be irrelevant, and winning with a 1K bet can give you big rewards if you are lucky. It would still be fun, in fact more fun, and it would be as non risky as it is now, in terms of going financially bankrupt.

I liked your answer. I also do the same

Wow if i woke up with 50M dollars.. I would not gamble it.  I would just simply go on a long vacation and educate myself how to grow it and multiply it. 
If I have that amount - i will go to Law School... and invest in myself some more.
good thinking mate finding more ways to grow your money would be much more fun and it will somehow move you away from gambling especially if you find that way from your interest it will focus your mind in what you love and make you more successful.
I agree with this because once you've already find the way to increase your financial without gambling it  will very good thing to do than to play gambling at all because in gambling we don't have any assurance if we can really earn here in a very short time.
In my case if I have a lot of money and the love of gambling is still with me then I would surely not hesitate to gamble. You would appreciate gambling when you are rich because you are not afraid of losing as the money you spend is just a small amount for you, you will not be like the others who are desperate in making money in gambling.
7703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going all in on a Hillary win bet on: November 07, 2016, 03:32:43 AM

And still I am doubtful if who I will bet, because the crowd is in favor of Trump and as well as the US citizens, but there are speculations that Hillary Clinton will be declared the winner, so still undecided.
I don't think anyone is supporting trump. For obvious reasons in a recent study majority of the latinos are voting for Hillary and it is by far the highest number of votes someone is leading by. I am sure trump can do some good things, but handling the country ? No way he can do that.
You cannot say that,there are also supporters of Trump and when the election is not over yet we cannot tell who will win. It's all over in the betting site that Hillary is the favorites and I believe also he will win as much as many people believe.

Therefore, I will be fading myself and bet for Trump. Can use my emotion in gambling. BOL to all
7704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Pacquiao Vs Vargas on: November 07, 2016, 02:54:34 AM
Its a shame on vargas because he should be moving forward and chasing paquiao but the opposite happened. Vargas was back pedaling while paquiao is the one who is chasing him. Vargas also beaten at his prime by an older paquiao. Easy money for Paquiao. I like Crawford to be his next opponent than Mayweather who runs like a chicken and hugs like a faggot.

That is because Vargas underestimated Pacquiao because he thinks that because of his younger age with Pacquiao he is more stronger and a lot of faster.

But as I believe, veterans will be veterans. And for the next fight of Pacquiao, I don't think that mayweather will fight him again.

That is already a record to him that he won against Manny. And besides, he already retired so that he can completely run away from being beaten by Manny.
Yes that's the way I see it too, Vargas underestimated Manny because of Manny age and since Manny is coming out from retirement but it turned out Vargas attended a school and learned a lesson from Manny. Manny power may have deteriorated as what fans are really looking for a knock out. Manny's last knockout was last 2009 with Ricky Hatton. Manny may have knocked some of his opponents but they were able to recover and go to the distance.

I was very dismayed with the fight of another Filipino fighter Donaire. He fought like he doesn't have the fire in him to defend his title and ending up loosing in scores.
Good for him, he should have retired after being schooled by pacman, I see the game and it's fun more than the Mayweather game. I think there will be a rematch between mayweather and pacman. After seeing the fight, I am stil convince that money can fight for at least 5 years maybe. He does not lose his speed and power.
7705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 04, 2016, 02:49:32 AM
Of course it is not wrong if you gamble but you know how to control your self and know when to gamble and when it is time to take a break.
If you want to gamble then you should because it is not wrong unless you are hurting other people with it like family.
True, it will be become wrong if your family became affected in your addiction in gambling. But once you know how to manage money and your self and you know how to control your greediness. I think there will be no problem at all.
Bad if you are the head of the family because for sure they will be affected and their future will be compromise, it is only good if you have unlimited amount of money as you can gamble all you want but with a limited money it is a sign of being irresponsible father.
This is true, once you know that your family is already affected, stay away in gambling immediately, because once you were still continue your addiction, even your family will lose like your money.

well definitely for me it is wrong. you can loose all your money (bitcoin) you work hard for, even family. a lot of people I know who played gambling everyday always says it was just a pass time. but its not. and later on they realize that they loose everything.

at first , maybe they would just consider as pass time or they are just playing whenever they have a free time but in the long the habit that is just for a pass time became a daily routine and they are making more time for it until they forgot everything what really important to them especially their family and their work .
That's how we started treating gambling, we do gamble for fun but later we change our goal. It's not a surprise as most of us have experience that and we feel that there's an easy money in gambling. Others call gambling as wrong because they failed to get what they want and maybe they lose a big amount they cannot forget or let go.
7706  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how strong is bitcoin really? on: November 04, 2016, 02:45:51 AM
I think to let you know how strong Bitcoin is, you need to understand how strong the blockchain technology is. In my opinion, it is one of the best technologies for the purpose of Bitcoin, since that with the decentralized network, it has support from all over the world and a ledger that can not be controlled by banks and central authorities.

No doubt about the blockchain technology it is why bitcoin is standing firm. Because no one can ever breach the network and I don't think they can easily do it.

And because of its own technology and network I can say that I am believing that my bitcoins are really safe and I don't doubt any of it when it comes to security.
The network is good but what makes it successful is because people have trust bitcoin. It's the entire system that we are talking here and bitcoin has the all around package we are looking.

The fact that it can be a currency and investment at the same time, it's huge already.
7707  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: November 04, 2016, 02:42:20 AM
If you think long-term invest you can take a look rise only markets... However, you can only sell a little amount of money at a time in these markets.
Yes if we do not have big capital, we will not get a good profit, only waiting is waste a lot of time although you still get a litle percentage profit of your bitcoin. So I think we still need to work or investing our bitcoin in trading. If we want a big profit we have to work harder or smarter. We can get profit in any investment wich have good credibility.
It's not hard to raise a decent capital if you believe in the future of bitcoin. You can borrow money in the bank and pay only 1% interest per month while you have a great chance to double your investment in a year. Just think of that carefully so you will be willing to take the risk of borrowing money to invest.
7708  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: November 04, 2016, 02:12:32 AM
I wouldn't say it's a question of security. Cash is secure enough if you take care of yourself ^^

It's more that bitcoin has no limit. Cash can be used only face to face and for limited amounts (otherwise it's a crime) whereas bitcin can be used in Australia to send money to the USA. Rather practical no? xD
It's actually depends on the purpose of using the money (Bitcoin and cash). They have can be useful in any transactions however bitcoin is just limited to online transaction as it is primary design for online transaction only. Some people treated bitcoin as an investment, but they cannot treat cash as investment due to inflation.
7709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 04, 2016, 02:02:36 AM
If you already win, don't play more or you will just end up losing. Control yourself from both winning and losing. Don't be greedy if you are winning. And control youself from betting more if your lossing. Also set a target profit everytime you play. A profit which is possible to obtain. That will help you to get greedy.

Indeed this is good advice it is good to stop when someone is on winning streak but it is very hard decision, if we learn how to control our emotions to play on online gambling site than it is really good for a person, because greedy person has no life in gambling.
Like they said, you need to seize the moment. When you are in a winning streak it is hard to stop because our greediness will strike, we want to make more money and we can only get that if we will continue to gamble. However, the sad reality is we lose in the end when our greediness will be use in gambling.
7710  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: November 04, 2016, 01:56:30 AM
You can try bitcoin cloud mining, but unfortunately there are a lot of scam mining sites. Or you can invest through Blockchain in their first page ads. But for me, I only invest and save bitcoin and will sell after price more than $1000
Let me just rephrase that to "all of them are scam sites." Investing in cloud mining sites will only lead to loss. I don't recommend it. It will take a lot of time before you can get your ROI and surely they already have ran away even before you get your ROI. Investing and saving your bitcoins isn't a "steady" income at all. That's just waiting. It's like when you time deposit your money in the bank, just with higher profits. I think if you're looking for a steady income, you should actively do work and don't just put your money as an investment and then wait for it to grow.
You're so right about the cloud mining sites but I don't understand you're trying to say when you said "put your money as an investment and then wait for it to grow". Does that mean you recommend investing through Blockchain as said by LegendOF45?

Yeah cloud mining is not advisable. Investing is also not steady as you would have to wait for quite some time for your money to grow. If you're unlucky enough, you may not even get your investments back.

All investments are risky but the risk can be minimized if you do proper homework before investing your money and its always good to diversify your investments instead of putting money at a single place and if you do a proper research before investing then you can make good profits in future.
I'm sorry but no matter how much research you do, it will never change the fact that investment sites are scam sites. There might be some cloud mining sites that has been there for a while now, but you'll have to wait for a long time before you can start having little profits. And who knows, maybe they'll run away too just like all the other investment sites.
You are correct there are some “investments” that are not worth any of your time and should be discard immediately, like HYIP and the like since it does not matter how much you research they are nothing but a scam.
As an investor you should know in the first place what is good for you. You have to be very careful on choosing the investment you will do because you work hard to raise a capital for your investment and you just found out that you put in a scam.

In investing we should not also be greedy, we have to learn that slow but consistent income is always better.
7711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: November 03, 2016, 02:04:32 AM
When in playing a gambling, emotions took place. You know
it is the problem in gambling controlling your temper. What Im
doing is I let aside my emotions so I can aim a win or success.

This is very hard to control as we all can be bring up our emotions easily especially when we are losing as we gamble. But as early as before you gamble you must need to control yourself and if you have watched the movie of "Three idiots" remember the saying, "all is well" and for sure this is going to make you calm.
Sometimes i can control since greediness is a nature for all humans. but if you thinking for the first play that you are just halving fun well i think you can be greed and you can be addicted.. just set your time or how much you can afford to lose..
sometimes it can result of angry if you always lose until you lose a lot of money so better to stop if you can not control your temper..
It's a different story for me, when I play for fun I do not become greedy because I just easy let go of my loses but still I have fun in the end. It is only when I gamble for fun that I do become greedy sometimes and when I win in the start most of the time I lose in the end.

It's hard to gamble when you are greedy of money as you will be victim of your own action.
7712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: November 03, 2016, 01:49:53 AM
I think best invest at the moment is invest on bitcoin dice sites.Some of the dice site made good % winnings for their investor.

Use DiceSites.com and Try your own.At the moment betking is a good investment.They Made over 180% Roi last month.Safe dice is also good for investment at the moment.
All sites as long as legitimate are good in investment, they win in the long run and that is their advantage. They might not be profitable for now but in the long run they will be profitable as gamblers lose in the long run. It is just important that we should learn how to have patience in investing as profit will not come easy.
7713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 03, 2016, 01:26:24 AM
My bet for Tonight:

Atlanta vs Lakers            WIN Atlanta     at quote@1.10
Charlotte vs Philadelphia WIN Charlotte  at quote@1.10
Brooklyn vs Detroit         WIN Detroit     at quote@1.55
New York vs Houston      WIN Houston   at quote@1.90
Memphis vs New Orleans WIN Memphis  at quote@1.40
Utah Jazz vs Dallas          WIN Utah       at quote@1.60
Boston vs Chicago           OVER 199,5 points at quote@1.40
Washington vs Toronto    OVER 199,5 points at quote@1.50
Los Angeles vs Oklahoma OVER 199,5 points at quote@1.35

Parlay at quote@22.65

Good selection dude, but I like the Dallas, New Orleans, and Brooklyn to win tonight. They are all underdog but they have not experience a win yet and they are hungry for that. I think it will be their night today.

It's either you win or I win. Good luck on both of us dude. Thanks for sharing your bet.
7714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 03, 2016, 01:20:59 AM
There are two types of gambler, the gambler who gamble and the gambler who invest. In my opinion, I think gambler who invest is making his money grow. They apply strategies to win. They are seriously want a win-win results. It is not wrong if it is for a specific purpose that will make your life good, but if you are just gamble and there is no improvement with your life then it is bad/wrong. So check for yourself when you gamble what is the purpose of it.

Your description with two types of gamblers are just the same they are both gambling just for profit. I think you mislead the gambler who invest because that can be considered as the gambler who gambles. I think the other one are the gamblers who gambles just for fun. And people are seeing it wrong when they both loses big amount in it.
Anything we do in gambling is always considered as gambling, we invest or we play against the house that is all gambling. The good thing with investment in gambling site bankroll is you have a chance like the chance of winning of the house against its gamblers. In the long run you make profit and that is on your favor.
7715  Economy / Services / Re: ♠ Betcoin.ag ♠ Signature Campaign - High Pay - Monthly Payments - Bonuses ♠ on: November 02, 2016, 08:30:05 AM
Hi, I have a question. I have 171 in my main balance. Is it in MBTC? Anyway, just withdraw the amount but still pending til now.

Can anyone give me some light here, it's actually my first payment and I transferred it to my BTC Wallet.

Yup, that's actually .171 in a regular BTC denomination.  And yes, as Betcoin is a gambling site, it takes a few hours before your BTC is released by them.  But it's still way faster compared to other non-Bitcoin gambling sites.  Please double check your email registered at Betcoin too.  There might be an email asking you to confirm your withdrawal. 

I just received my withdrawal right now.  Thanks Betcoin!  Smiley
Thank you for helping me out, I just confirm it in my email account. Hope this will be sent soon. Long live Betcoin.ag
7716  Economy / Services / Re: ♠ Betcoin.ag ♠ Signature Campaign - High Pay - Monthly Payments - Bonuses ♠ on: November 02, 2016, 07:49:35 AM
Hi, I have a question. I have 171 in my main balance. Is it in MBTC? Anyway, just withdraw the amount but still pending til now.

Can anyone give me some light here, it's actually my first payment and I transferred it to my BTC Wallet.
7717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: November 02, 2016, 05:37:36 AM
sports betting is my favourite and it makes it fun becasue i can watch some matches and there are different markets to choose from
I guess I thought the same as you. Well, sports betting is a kind of gambling that is most in demand by the people, it was because of the way that is very simple and has a better chance to win. if you play this gambling, you just have to bet on the team that you think has a greater strength compared to his opponent, so the opportunities will be even greater winnings
Sports betting is some kind of gambling that gives you confidence since you can watch the game live, that fact alone will give you more excitement as in the course of the game, there are ups and downs you can witness for the particular team you are betting although the outcome will only be known after the game is finish.
7718  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: November 02, 2016, 05:31:36 AM
If the bitcoin bank is another user like a pool or exchange with multiple sub-users and many addresses etc. no problem. if they say they have control of blockchain with their own miners then it's not bitcoin but bankcoin. like e-coin on Mr Robot TV show. (E-Corp controls it)
 
I would not like to see that happening, I just want the current original set up of bitcoin as it can give us independence or freedom on how to spend our money. With the intervention of bank, we will no longer be transacting anonymous anymore.
7719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 02, 2016, 05:28:06 AM
In my opinion gambling becomes addiction because of if i have been losing it make me curious and that is make me addiction of gambling.
Gamblers are those people who are intelligent, you keep playing still despite of the reality that you always lose because you want to fin the method to win in gambling, and in a regular basis we want to try our new discovered method if it works or not.

Gambling makes our mind works and that can help to be active for a while.
7720  Economy / Services / Re: ♠ Betcoin.ag ♠ Signature Campaign - High Pay - Monthly Payments - Bonuses ♠ on: November 02, 2016, 05:25:23 AM
Payment was already credited into my account. Thank you so much.

It's my first payment by the way, and it's sweet since the value of bitcoin is good.
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