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7721  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is cloud mining still a good invesstments in 2k17 ? on: January 16, 2017, 04:31:54 PM
Cloudmining sites is never a good investments and most people here on this forum knows about these crap website on which they are just total scams and really a waste of time and its better to stay away from this if i were you and dont believe to your friend and as the man said above me that your friend reacruiting you just for referal bonuses.
7722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 15, 2017, 04:26:21 PM
Yep knowing to stop is a key part of gambling, if you know when to stop you have already made 50% of the job in betting game, if you cant control your impulses you will get constantly fucked by the odds, so you must run with your profits as soon as possible. Oh and when it comes to trading is the same, you must set stop losses and know when you fucked up and run with the money.
smart way to gamble can you find if you can control yourself in the game. but, it is very difficult to do that, in fact very few people who can do that. many people who try it, but in the end they got stuck in a gambling game. if you want to try, try to use the number of bets a little, but do not let you be tempted to keep playing, because it is common.
I guess things that could make you play smart in gambling is when you can get profit in the end.
I mean not only luck determine you to win or not , but also your intelligence.
To have a self-awareness that you won't get a winning forever so you'll just gamble ocassionally.

Gambling in a smart way is possible if you are just betting with low numbers but I do not see any other smart thing about it..


its a smart way that we can do but its not makes us to get much of profit while we only use low amount for betting. but i think its equal with what we spend in gambling, the more we make a bet, the more risk and opportunity to get high amount in winning but remember, we can not always win in gambling so be careful.

Indeed and I think overall its not really possible, if you think about the fact that gambling smart is with low amounts its not profitable at all anymore.
- I think we need to determine the purpose of gambling (Fun or Profit)
- Keep calm, control yourself, stop playing when losing too much
- I think the smartest way is not playing, no gambling will not lose
Your third point is easier said than done besides, there are many people that enjoy gambling and they never get addicted or anything so for those persons gambling is just a way to get some fun and there is nothing wrong with that.
Theres really nothing wrong on playing gambling as long you know how to control your greed and emotions which causes for you to become and gambling addict.Gambling is made for entertainment and shouldn't be treat as a source of income because its really an impossible thing to happen.If you don't want to lose money then better not to play at all.
7723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: January 15, 2017, 04:10:01 PM
I stop gambling, when i feel that i am unlucky.
Because skills without luck probably mean lost, Even who have skills in prediction, one day they lose. No one who can win forever.

Well I think that can be a good option but not really safe, I set a limitation per day and if I hit that limit I will stop for mostly a days with gambling.

How can you identify if you are feeling unlucky? But sometimes our instincts are true and sometimes not and setting a limitation per day is a good strategy to stop if you almost fill that limitation. The same thing with what I do when to stop, when I feel uncertain and when I lost everything, that is when I stop gambling.
just wondering if you  know that you are lucky  how far are you risking your money? i think its really hard to say that but considering that you have that instinct maybe you should try betting big amount so before you quit you already gain a lots of winnings, i'm just thinking though but sure thing gamble without luck is nothing but to lose.

There is really no way to identify if you are feeling lucky for a certain day. And there is no more argument because most of the gamblers are just losing in the end, no matter how good we are in a certain game. There are the days that we are lucky and not, I guess it is just better to stop and trust your feelings, because its your money not others.
You are correct even how good we are on a particular game we would definitely experience lose because we cant guarantee on when our luck comes to us since we know that gambling game does really require luck in able to win and gain profits.The best way to stop is having a strong discipline into yourself and you know how to step out when you are already profiting.

Having a discipline is good but the question is, can we implement that discipline when we are experiencing a tough loss? There are certain measurements that we need to consider about discipline, because we can be in rage any time, any moment. That's why as long as you are still on the right mind, just quit for the day and trust it all with what you feel.
When we let our emotions control us then discipline would really not possible because you will really let your emotions control you but there are people who are disciplined enough to themselves on playing gambling which they know on what they are doing.Feelings or instincts might help but not all the time.
7724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Game , Work the longest without loss ? With which strategy ? on: January 15, 2017, 03:54:43 PM
Basebets would depend on your bankroll though on 0.1 I could actually made settings:
Base bet:0.0000001
Multiplier:60x
Chance: 6.67%
% on loss: 1.3

It may work for sometime but I didn't use it anymore since it deplete all my bankroll in an instant Smiley
7725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: January 15, 2017, 03:25:48 PM
You can start by reducing the intensity of playing gambling. you should have a target every week. all it does require a long time.
however I am sure this will be successful, we are a little bit left to play gambling to seek better terms.

I don't think that reduce intensity is a good way as it's not like drugs addicted.
Family and friends that could keep watch on you and give advice.
Of course your intention to quit gambling for good is the most important.
Help from others would be useless if you don't help first yourself because if you don't have intention on quiting gambling then they are just wasting their time on convincing you to quit gambling.Yourself could be the only one to help yourself also that's why the first step is setting our mind to quit gambling completely without turning back again.
7726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: January 14, 2017, 04:53:51 PM
I am agree with your all points, especially, the third one is suit me. Actually, i always play gambling with a small capital. Because if i lose than i can take care myself, but if i win than it is too good for me. But in gambling we should control our greedy than definitely temper will be on control.     

Greed is like a devil, there are almost everybody but we should be just like a computer software, that is, our lower bound and upper bound

Nice illustration mate but it is somehow exaggerated.Just Joking,Greed is really present on every person on the world because every man do have intentions of loving money since it do really have a value and we know we could able to buy anything if we do have money that's why some play gambling because of this aim but most of the time temper does really control you if you don't met you expectations on your game.
7727  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many Bitcoins are lost forever? on: January 14, 2017, 04:24:11 PM
I don't know if this case can be considered lost forever, but I just accidentally passed by a topic on this forum saying that a man who have put his belief in bitcoin since the early days of it, maybe 2009, and he had somehow put his 1000 BTC in a hard drive. Over time, he seemed to forget about it and so he had been formatting his drive 5,6 times and now when he knew that only a bitcoin can worth nearly a thousand dollars, he tried to recover his drive for 1000 BTC, but things don't seem to be good. I hope he would be able to recover it Cry
I have read that thread too on which hes asking for help for recovering his wallet but in my own view its impossible for him to find those bitcoins again since he don't have the private keys or wallet.dat file stored on the hard drive and also he formatted it 5-6x which is really bad and cant be recovered for sure and considered to be included on bitcoins that are lost forever.
7728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: January 14, 2017, 04:00:27 PM
Though for those who already has gambling instilled in their system and has become a part of their everyday lives and routine, it would have to be a slow steady process because there would already be mental and emotional aspects to consider when quitting. Aspects that may very well have negative effects in their lives also if they stop instantly.

Addiction of gambling is not really the same as addiction to cigarrettes or drugs. Even if you force someone to stop immediately, it wont affect their health at all just their mental so it wont be as damaging as stopping to smoke directly. Besides that you will need some money to gamble and how would the addicted guy be gambling when he has no funds to gamble?
When you are a gambling addict then you already spend lots of money on playing it and lose it all and as you said if they don't have money they would stop their addiction but this is not always the case because there are gambling addicts would definitely do bad things just to satisfy their addiction which causes more trouble.
7729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: January 14, 2017, 03:17:47 PM
Win = Know when to stop , that's a real win for me. If you have profit in your hand, withdraw it immediately and play again with the rest of funds but the greediness is a big problem for some peoples and back to the player how to handle it.
Agree,this behavior or mentality would really make you a winner on the end of the day when you are lucky enough to make money on martingale system.Theres no sureness on using martingale method on the long run and if you are greedy and decided to operate for longer hours then chances of being busted by house is high.
7730  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your biggest bitcoin regrets? on: January 14, 2017, 01:31:54 PM
I guess it will be not joining bitcoin related investments earlier. When I started bitcoin the value per bitcoin is around $200-$220. I hope i discover bitcoin earlier like around 2009-2010. I think i am rich by now if i did discover bitcoin early. I think bitcoin value on that year is so cheap. The more bitcoin i will gonna buy at that year the more richer i am now. I never thought bitcoin will be a huge impact on the economy. I think no one ever thought about that, thats why they are also late on discovering bitcoin just like me.
Its never been late for us to join on the flow with bitcoin because price will eventually rise in the long run.You cant say such thing that you would buy bitcoin on those times because no one knows If what would be the price of bitcoin on the future.Some may think its just a shitcoin but for those who believe on bitcoin does really have a good reward and they are definitely rich by now.
7731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: January 14, 2017, 12:34:46 PM
I want to know what you guys think about this, I have stopped gambling but still trade so does this mean I am still gambling?? I don't trade on basis of luck I trade using my skills would it still be considered gambling??

Please tell me what do you think.
Yes taking risk to both but there are difference depends on how much you will going to spend on that thing in gambling it easy to earn money if you know how to gambled perfectly , while in trading you need weeks before earning profit or you can earn by short term of trading. I commonly trade i don't have luck on gambling even i played everyday lol.
In speaking of risk both gambling and trading do really have it but they have difference on ways on how to gain money of profits with it but I could say trading do really have the edge because you could really study and learn it unlike on gambling which you would just need to place bets and your good to go unlike on trading you would really need to plan on your trade set-ups.
well that's right if you want to grow more with trading you needed to understand all the possibilities why the market or the stocks will move and good thing with trading everytime there's some downfall or uphill you will be informed with certain news that will affect your supported stocks, unlike gambling its really pure luck that you need from time to time.
Agree,technical analysis and news/informations on markets will surely help you out in trading stocks and currencies the same on trading on bitcoin but I could say it easier to trade in bitcoin because forex/stock trading is very crucial and its very hard.Knowing the successful traders all over the world is just 10% and 95% of them are those people/trader who burned their accounts.
7732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: January 14, 2017, 11:53:48 AM
I want to know what you guys think about this, I have stopped gambling but still trade so does this mean I am still gambling?? I don't trade on basis of luck I trade using my skills would it still be considered gambling??

Please tell me what do you think.
Yes taking risk to both but there are difference depends on how much you will going to spend on that thing in gambling it easy to earn money if you know how to gambled perfectly , while in trading you need weeks before earning profit or you can earn by short term of trading. I commonly trade i don't have luck on gambling even i played everyday lol.
In speaking of risk both gambling and trading do really have it but they have difference on ways on how to gain money of profits with it but I could say trading do really have the edge because you could really study and learn it unlike on gambling which you would just need to place bets and your good to go unlike on trading you would really need to plan on your trade set-ups.
7733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: January 14, 2017, 10:01:10 AM
So.... how much have you win or loss gambling ?? And what did you stake ?
I've lost about $60 so far but im planning to win it back. Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered.
A saying well said, however i still need to learn it since my greed is my downfall. Guys and girls
how much money have you made or lost gambling ? Any pointers or warnings ? 

Gambling is always risky till now i din't made any profits in gambling even i have lost nearly 100$ in it, but as of now i am not playing any gambling because it is most addictive one. So may be in future i am gain my loss through trading.
Youre making a good decision on switching from gambling to trading and I could say you would eventually recover up your loses on gambling but still you would need to be knowledgeable enough in able to gain profits.Gambling is really an addictive thing if you don't know how to control it that's why we should be responsible on our actions on playing it.Sad to hear you lose money but you are not the only one because most gamblers do suffer this thing.
7734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your game and why? on: January 14, 2017, 07:14:34 AM
Used to love blackjack - but can't seem to get away from Dice at the moment...

could not stay away from the dice game? Definitely because dice game is one of the simplest games. Dice games we just need luck. Because there is no strategy, trick or something. You think up a long time for choosing, only a chance dice game 5O%. 5O% losers and 5O% to win. nothing else, there is no bigger between them. if  your luck is good, then the result will be good.
Dice could really hard to be avoided on not to play because it is the most common game and I do agree on your view about dice but still it depends on the person on how much knowledge do he have on some games but I could say the simpliest one is dice and slots and games which do require knowledge is sports and card games.
7735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Sports Betting for You? on: January 13, 2017, 09:09:03 AM
Compared to any other gambling types, I am able to manage myself into profits only with sports betting.
I strongly believe sports betting is for myself to make profits to compensate the losses I have faced in other gambling. I am using my sports betting profits for other gambling to have entertainment. Sport betting is not entertaining me usually.
On what part which sports betting is not entertaining?Actually it is enjoyable specially when you see your team is already winning on in the times that there are close fights these really give a thrill into a particular bettor of a certain game.Sports betting do have an edge compared to full luck based games if we are speaking on winning percentage.
7736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: January 13, 2017, 08:26:43 AM
This thing is very scary to do because you are playing on the money that is not yours and the pressure is high for sure which really affects your gameplay but if you are experienced and professional on this matter then its alright as long you dont put yourself into a bad situation.Risk is very high and only a few people will only do this thing.
7737  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: January 13, 2017, 08:16:25 AM
Skill based gambling for me is more riskier. While there is also a risk factor in trading, we are not totally in the dark. There are "tools" or fundamental analysis that can help you eliminate the risk as possible.  Trading is not about luck, you can watch and analyze the market and keep an eye on it and based on your studies make your move.




Agree,trading is really much better for me  compared on skill-based gambling because there are instances that trading could have higher chance of gaining profit or money but it would really need knowledge same as skill-based gambling but results or winning percentage arent the same in my own view.
7738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: January 13, 2017, 06:59:52 AM
My family dont want me to play gambling anymore i had my own computer and they always seeing me playing card they always telling me that gambling is a bad thing but i am proud to my self i never felt shame to my self because i know gambling helps me with my problem on financial and other things.

This is not a good reason to be proud about your gambling habit... If your family is not in favor of your gambling, then you shouldn't be proud of it coz you are lying to them, that could further enlarge the gap between you and them....

For the mean time yes, you could enjoy your gambling since you said thatit could help you with your life, but I doubt if it really could help you financially and on other things in the long run...
Well if your family is against on your gambling habit then you should not let them see so that they would not be angry to you and just keep it as a secret but if you play lively with their awareness then as you said its better to quit for good rather than destroying the relations between among members of the family.As long you didnt risk anything then it should be okay to play gambling.
7739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: January 13, 2017, 06:23:32 AM
IMO, you should stop gambling on dice sites because I think that almost all dice sites are rigged and are there just to rip off your coins from your account. Whether you gamble at 50% or 1% or 99%, luck will never favor you and house will eventually take everything.
No, not all dice sites are rigged. There are some reputable and trusted dice gambling sites which has provably fair system in their site. Didn't you ever heard about provably fair? Bitlser, Primedice, Bitdice, Justdice, and many more. If you are losing, it is because you unlucky and we know too if we are betting for long run, we will lose because there is house edge, not because rigged
for those people who did not understand about provably fair system and how to verify it they will just simply blame the site as rigged or something , indeed you will always feel like cheated whenever you lost there.

but the fact most of them are proven fair in any way, you should provide a proof to accusing them.

it is not just about understanding how provably fair system works. it is also about the fact that they do not understand what house edge means and how their chances of winning work. for example if you make 5000 bets on a 2x which is "nearly" 50/50 chance and check your stats it is never 2500 win 2500 loss. instead it is something like 2400 win and 2600 loss and that is what house edge does to you.
This is just really a basic knowledge that should any players would tend to play dice games and they should really be aware on the house edge and odds are really not equal at all even you set the odds 2x payout there still differences.Thats why there are lots of techniques and strategies that is being created just to play dice.
7740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will die soon if happen with every Bitcoin users? on: January 12, 2017, 05:07:54 PM
Bitcoin wont die on this just simple matter regarding on delay transaction which i already treated already as a normal thing on bitcoin network because we are increasing on volume which means transactions are increasing too which means it gives more traffic on the chain thats why confirmation does really took soo long and also depends on the fee you put on that transfer.The less fee the longer it would confirm.
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