Basically,
Kos is saying, he worked alone and his team stood by talking doing nothing, so he close shop and choose to become a "member" of karma instead of being the "project leader"
and bitwho (considered too by many here, to be an active member of the KarmaTeam) say he and the rest of the "team" is out of the loop on what kos was doing and yet he loves kos to do things for karma and lead Karma. (I smell teamwork here)
ryannguyen18 say kos and his team will make karma successful?
They must be all correct, right?
BYE KARMA. No leader, no team, no plan, no budget, no business.
I will wait for those post asking me what I will do to help karma hahahaha. And yes those who will ask WHAT I HAVE DONE FOR KARMA. HAHAHA. I will not tell you.
AND YES I WILL TRY TO PUMP THE PRICE TO EXIT. Care to watch the market rise??? Hahahaha.
Bye.
Actually coin price & success has many attributes: 1) skilled dev 2) skilled community 3) lot of money invested into that coin 4) distribution of coin 5) big price history 6) Also there is a formula used for coin price: Transactions Volume/Velocity + 1/Supply. 1) Karm has no dev, this is easy to fix. 2) Karm has very nice community 3) KARM has eaten really lot of money and those people own expensive bags, hence there is lot of people to help and spread any good news. 4) Distribution of coins is better thanks to dumping. Big holders were dumping part of their portfolio to cut huge losses and scammer dumped billions. 5) Karm hit 600 litoshi, it is nice graph, interesting for future investors 6) That formula is against KARM. Transaction volume is low and total supply is 90 billion KARM. But block reward is 20.000 KARM now, and will be 10.000 in 3 months. Than this is not such a problem, since there is already 2/3 of coins mined. The biggest problem of KARM was KarmaShares scam. I do not want to help KARM whenthere are people scammers involved in it. 100% of services has to be owned by trusted calm members, with no scam history and really good skills and without mental illness. First step is to cut sick part, than KARM can start to work. Karm does not need shit-talk, but long term vision. Talking about millions of users of KARM in Africa and Philippinenes is bullshit. Karm need real usage, like tipbots, backbone of services so people can implement KARM on their webs easily. Stop talking about dreams and make small step by step to increase trust into this coin. I nominate Socoban for build a new team to bring KARM back to life. He has a clear view on whats going on since launch with KARM Technical skills He`s still here after all |
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theres only 2 dumpers here
KOS MOST
HIRO
lock in step
Known as Hendo and Maco from 42coin, where there career began. |
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The community should be seeing our marketing efforts come into play first hand and witness the effects before the month is over. We'll be following a strict marketing plan to build platforms to acquire newcomers from inside and outside of the cryptoworld and expose them to Pandacoin (PND)
You guys are great. One day I will be said that I missed to buy more of this amazing coin for low prices. |
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Off topic: Is someone else here who ownes a bag of KARM (karmacoin) If you see how people get scammed there again  you can really be lucky to be in this community involved, seems to be a fair and honest project for the long time investors  someone came on irc earlier, it's not really a scam, the dev just gave up as far as I understood. Its a very easy interpretation to declare what happend with lill.com and the billion dump a few days ago as "not a scam" But like i said i am happy to mine, buy and hodl PND  well I honestly don't know the full story, so can't judge. We're working hard though  Here is the story.. "Every word Kosmost has said is rational and well thought out. No one has answered his questions with evidence of scams etc etc:
many have asked for evidence for the sell... kosmost just turns the table. if he cant answer us why should we answer to him?
Innocent until proven guilty. He said he did not sell coins before the LLC announcement and he has constantly said he still owns his coins. There is no evidence to the contrary. If you asked me if I sold the coins and then I said no and told you I still own all my coins I am logically just as likely as Kosmost to be lying. There were 3 hypes based on lill.com sale offer. One pumped KARM to 380 Litoshi, second to 240 from 170, third to 150 from 110, All pumps were based on fake news. No proof, nothing. I asked Kosmost many times to prove he got thay offer. He rejected to do it. He is suspicious of scaming people with fake news, manipulating market price on fake news and dumping on them on pumps especially on 31th of August. There was insider dumping, someone knew that deal was not gonna happen 1 day before. He dumped to 11 litooshi, such dump at that low price can happen only if dumper is 100% it is game ower. The dumper knew all facts. There was only one person who knew that fact, and that person is Kosmost. Sorry but Kosmost has never shown anything. There was 17billion KARM volume bought during 2 weeks before KarmaShares were announced at 8-15 litoshi price. That one who bought at that price was selling that cheap KARM at 20-60 litoshi during next weeks. And the very same guy was dumping on us all the time especially on 31th of August. Very simple calculation show that there were 50-100 BTC earned on that cool organized scam. Kosmost does not need to steal 8,5 bilion KARM from karmashares, they would be worth nothing after that steal. He just need to quit this scam without real life consequencies. What I learned once more is not to follow blind some "leadercult" |
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Linux_Mint_Pal, Pandacoin Public Education specialist
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Off topic: Is someone else here who ownes a bag of KARM (karmacoin) If you see how people get scammed there again you can really be lucky to be in this community involved, seems to be a fair and honest project for the long time investors someone came on irc earlier, it's not really a scam, the dev just gave up as far as I understood. Its a very easy interpretation to declare what happend with lill.com and the billion dump a few days ago as "not a scam" But like i said i am happy to mine, buy and hodl PND |
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It seems like that this coin is backed very well
from the community even now after all what happend in
the last weeks.
Try to see it as good oportunity to buy cheap coins and take a deep breath.
What we need now is more KARMA.
My thought since the acccouncent of selling lill.com was to
donate the 2.5mill. thats what would show how serious we take it about DOING GOOD.
But not a single answer about this idea at this time.
Thats what makes us to the same greedy fuckers like supporters of other coins under the name of KARMA.
We need more Karma inside here, else it is just a name.
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Off topic: Is someone else here who ownes a bag of KARM (karmacoin) If you see how people get scammed there again you can really be lucky to be in this community involved, seems to be a fair and honest project for the long time investors |
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I have been lurking here for a while, and am holding around 21mil coins. Not a huge amount, granted, and i will be putting in some buy orders shortly.
I really like the activity of the dev's- excellent work guys, the recent developments are fantastic, very very professional.
The one thing that does concern me is the volume, their simply isn't enough. prior to the announcements we had some good volume, both in ltc and btc, while this was to be expected on the lead up to the 30th August, i can't understand since the announcements, why this has crashed to current levels. I don't understand why? personally i think the ON TIME announcements and developments were spot on, so why the massive downturn on volume?
Thoughts please?
That's because the people who have PND, keep PND. And this forum can be quite toxic and negative towards other coins (we had some people who were heavily invested in other coins starting fud here). Our marketingteam has started working now on their marketing plan to grow from outside of the current cryptospace. However that takes some time to get some effect as you can imagine. Another thing is that we have some "hidden" volume. The volume of buypnd isn't counted towards it and there are quite a few buys every day. Does buypnd not buy coins from an exchange? Volume will come when i look around at diffrent "twitter experts" |
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How can a coin this great be worth just 2 satoshis?? Thats unfair oO
If you think this coin is great and undervalued , isn't it a great buying opportunity I agree, it is, just waiting for a couple of other trades to come through so I can get started with it Welcome PandaWhale I am wondering if there will be some action on the market after `you can get started with it` Activity: 2 Posts, don`t understand me wrong but I hope thats not a new account from raiuk..... |
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...................................... And BTW, kosmost didn't scam anyone.
He did not deceive anyone, but he made a bad pass ... community, investors and the team that I trusted him! I suffer, but also glad that we can start fresh without traitors! kosmost is a man who knows what dignity, duty, honor .... get out pants down and let thousands of people in the mud without comment and opinion I call in one word - betrayal. This is not good karma for it! It would be better if they retain the name of the coin KARMA! I am sure that this coin will not die because the community is strong. Some facts.. then I will get back to my real life.... 1) I still have my coins 2) I have not stolen any of your coins 3) Karma is not dead. It is over 300% above the price when Karmashares was announced. 4) I have no plans or intention to sell Lill at this time. All offers have either expired or been rejected. I will not accept any offers from the same investor (or an associate of the investor) for Lill, as that would not be ethical. 5) To announce that I am looking for someone to take over Karmashares would open up another can of worms, lead to a decline in price, and lead other people to say, "... it could have been done better!". 6) To announce to the team first that it will be done will lead to posts talking about "...insider trading" 7) If you don't like how something has been handled now is your chance to show us how it should be done. Join the team and put your money where your mouth is  These conversations are highly unproductive. Yes, I hope Karma moves on from such drivel. 9) I am still waiting for responses to my posts regarding the future of Karma (i.e., what will YOU do specifically, right now to help Karma in its new direction?). Some claim that I have not properly responded to their points when my own posts are ignored. (However, I have responded to all point except the craziest of conjectures.. which I will leave in the pile of dung that I found them in) 10) The more I am insulted and threatened publicly and privately the less I want to be involved with the current Karma community. I am/was doing this voluntarily. Without support, there's not much I can/want to do.
Hard statement for those who supported you from the Devteam |
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No more cheap coins after distribution so far.
Happy that I was able to buy for 26-30lite.
Withinn 48hrs back to 80lite.
Mark my words.
we are at 50. for me the biggest hype is that the most can see whats clear since days/weeks now we can continue what happend is not what most of us understand as karma or doing good. feel free to cheap buy in others maybe miss this train |
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I seriously hope this comes back to life. I bought into it due to Kosmost's promises. I have the feeling he took the offer to buy Lill and the money was too much for him to not just run with it. Kind of depressing how many scams are prevalent now in the crypto world. Even legitimate-sounding opportunities all over are turning into scams once people earn enough to make it worth giving up their integrity for a few dollars.
Nice, some of you wake up and see what happend. First step in a better direction. 80lite within 48hrs- |
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Coin die once, then die once again.  and karma will reborn again maybe this time without that leadercult and lot blind followers its the time to form something with substance don`t panic now, no changes before a real team is formed |
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How can a coin this great be worth just 2 satoshis?? Thats unfair oO
After the big marketing offensive we will gain value. I am sure about that. It`s a good opportunity to buy for you. |
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No more cheap coins after distribution so far.
Happy that I was able to buy for 26-30lite.
Withinn 48hrs back to 80lite.
Mark my words.
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I can`t understand why there is not more buysupport
after devs delievered all what they promissed to the community.
People tend to follow the wave and buy on hypes. But as long as PND keeps on delivering, people will realize how great of a coin this is. What we need now is people who understands what PND really is about and their mission in the long-run. No point getting those who buys for a bit then sells after sometimes just to earn small pennies. We just need time! Can`t wait to see whats your marketing expert will deliver to bring it to the people outside of crypto Hope to see some action soon. |
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Now after things are clear I see a brighter future than 24hrs ago.
good coin distribution
strong community
maybe best name for a coin for the masses
If a serious team (maybe some of the actual dev team) step in for karma things can go well with this coin.
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