By this, do you mean that someone has stupidly given you access to edit this thread, or that you do not have the stomach for justified criticism ?

Quite the contrary, plenty of people do wish to be part of it.

However, whenever reasonable questions are raised as to what developments such a fund would be financing, we receive contradictory or condescending responses, if any response is forthcoming at all.

As with other crypto projects, if concrete proposals are put to the community they will receive support, financial or otherwise.

Are you able to shed any light ?

You have had several sincere expressions of interest to your request for assistance in platform testing, from active people here. Concentrate on those, and maybe we can get something moving.

I would be interested, DM with details.

As others have pointed out, most people bought into this coin on the back of its being launched by someone who has interesting mainstream finance connections, whose original plan was to develop it for a different, specific use case. The possibility of it being used in the Drachmae project doesn't necessarily change that plan. Drachmae might be a sideshow, who knows ? I personally would rather sit it out and see what BK announces, than take the word of someone who has difficulty making coherent sense, whose pronouncements have been wildly inconsistent.

That is why, although some of us really tried to engage with him and make sense of what he was saying, such attempts proved to be futile. Regardless of whether he was being wilfully obscure and/or contrary, or genuinely unable to construct logical, coherent sentences, it was pointless engaging in what would have been endlessly circular argument.

As far as most of us here are concerned, he has no remit to speak about NAUT's development, other than its possible involvement with the Drachmae project.

birdcat90 asked if anyone has any new nodes. This implies that s/he has the technical knowledge to know that these are required, and how to add them.

If you are trying to make a wider point, that being

"how would a non-technical person know what to do in this situation, and don't you think that sometimes the technical nature of getting a basic wallet working is still prohibitive to a certain section of society adopting it willingly"

then this point applies to most of crypto in its current state. And yes, this is something that needs to be addressed if any resource of this type is going to be picked up and used by a small Greek island.

There were a few listed several pages back. Mine connects without issue.

Are you using the v2 client ?

Try

146.0.32.101
54.187.96.217
108.61.10.90
52.0.108.136
106.187.93.107
63.247.147.166
124.150.42.36

These are all listed in the 'Peers' tab of of my debug window

Now I really have no idea what you're trying to get at. We seem to be going round and round in ever confusing circles. I have no idea whether this is by design ( deliberately misleading information ). I really hope it is, because if that was meant to be a clear exposition of where we're at, then .... that worries me.

BK announces specific Sports use.
Calls for contributions to dev fund with no further explanation or clarification.
A few days later, Agistri project announced.
Related announcements make this announcement out to be a done deal.
Subsequent communication from Lee sheds considerable doubt on whether this is the case.
Most recent communication now suggests that NAUT may not be part of the Drachmae project.
But that it might yet be part of some other as-yet-unspecified project.

In order to get anything off the ground, it is suggested that the community have to get off their collective arses and contribute. To what, we do not know. Or rather, we thought we knew, but it could all change at any moment.

It is then suggested that there is no concrete 'what' to contribute to, that it is up to the 'holders' to define and build out uses for NAUT.

The community is asked to contribute something for which we are given a nebulous description. And yet, we are also told that, in the background, all sorts of legalities are being ironed out. Legalities are expensive to iron out, and legalities deal with specifics.

So it's entirely possible that the community spends a heap of time and energy on developing something off their own back. Only to find that, behind closed doors, a very tightly worked out legally defined entity has been in the works all the time, and now all that comunity effort is wasted, it was a big bluff, a smokescreen. Thanks for the effort, but actually something different is happening. Sorry, we couldn't tell you at the time, but thanks for playing along anyway.

That would be a really really good way to engage with a jaded community. 

Ok, we're getting somewhere.

I think that both parties ( NAUT holders, and those with access to planned developments ) are in a difficult position, and a certain level of mistrust between these parties has not helped with getting things started so far.

Up until this point, BK has, for a variety of reasons, been unwilling / unable to share information, communicate with any community that still exists, and so those of us still following the project have simply assumed that all responsibility for new development rests with him.

New partners coming the project ( Drachmae ), viewing the history of general antipathy generated as a consequence of zero communication, might well think that the community is not interested in contributing, and thus might well insist on the community stepping up before proceeding.

Each party is thus insisting on the other showing some cards before taking further steps, and a stalemate of sorts results.

Lee's points above help with getting some momentum going. But they also raise questions.

My thoughts are that yes, bounties will most definately help to attract developers, especially given the shakey nature of the project's history to date.

Exchanges. I was under the impression that there will be only one exchange, the NXT platform, because of the very particular nature of how the project is being set up ( FIAT being used to purchase NAUT bonds, KYC requirements for this, gold purchases made with proceeds of transactions, etc )

If this is not what is going to happen, and NAUT is to be traded as per other ALTS, then other exchanges will pick it up when sufficient volume arrives.

Merchants will use it if a concrete ecosystem is presented to them. Again, all of us here have been assuming that Agistri is planned as the use case model, which will serve to illustrate a working ecosystem that can be adopted by others.

Lee, your comments above, as well as earlier ones, suggest that there are other avenues being explored, that NAUT being included in the Drachmae project isn't a done deal.  

And so, we arrive back at the point of confusion. Nothing is particularly clear. The reasons for not elaborating plans fully are understandable, but they do present the challenge of how to galvanise a community that is willing to help, but who, thus far, have been fed a lot of ifs buts and maybes. A community can only be built around some sort of common purpose, and at this point in time, no clear purpose is being made available.

The end result is that many people will simply think "ah well, they're hatching plans that can't be shared, something must be in the pipeline, I'll wait and see what is presented before putting my energy into it".

Chicken. Egg.

Please break down what the proposed required 150,000 USD investment will be spent on, and who it will be paid to.

Where does the constant bitching and double-speak fit in to your 'strategy consultation' for which you have been paid quite handsomly ?

Same old bullshit.

"NAUT [holders] [community] [spokespeople] [whatever_label_currently_springs_to_mind] have to make a decision about XYZ"

Oh ? Ok then, furnish us with sufficient detail, in good time, to make such a decision.

"Ahhhhh you're all a bunch of twats who want to give nothing back and the decision needed to be made yesterday and anyway I've found someone else to stump up 15 million and ..... errrrrr ...... what was I wailing about ?"

Hmmm. I see. I think you said something similar not so long ago.

BK made the 5% suggestion via twitter, in response to a question, but this is undecided

https://twitter.com/BKBrianKelly/status/631550995886153728

"Supply will grow BUT it will be released over a period of years...Thinking 5% a year - but not decided yet "

How much do you think that the first cryptocurrency backed by gold with a very well connected person with reputation to protect at its helm should / could be worth ?

I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous link

Seems like people are simply selling into to 2nd biggest wallet on Bittrex, or that wallet is buying the order book .... probably BK buying more to remove from exchange, as per previous largest wallet

If anyone has thoughts, opinions etc on this Agisitri project, the best place to air them, to learn about what you can do to contribute, for wider perspective on the project, etc etc, is here :

https://sprnt.slack.com/messages/nautilus/

Use the link above to gain access

'drachmae' has been spreading all sorts of double speak amongst various forums and communication channels, none of which adds up under questioning ...

Try this post, at the bottom of the previous page :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591114.msg11852487#msg11852487