Ross Ulbricht probably.
Evil! and Rare, only 500 pcs. Ok I propose 4 cards: Gavinxtcd Mikextcd vs Gregorycorecd Petrecorecd uaz uaz Ok wait....I'm joking. No block size trolling here... |
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3 New Cards created recently: CARDAIRBITZ
CARDAUGUR
ROSSCARDStill waiting on: XAJIBESAARHopefully should see these for sale soon!!!  So we have: Airbitz partnership Augur partnership (Probably the Best Service Project working on a blockchain technology ever) but... What exactly is Ross? (maybe Rostock?) |
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So what hnin wrote was wrong?
From Wed, Oct 28th 10 am CET further on: 1 200 BCY
If you plan to reduce price in BCY when game reach mainstream.
If that is a plan what is the meaning to buy cards now? if we will be able to get OPEN BAZAAR card for 40 BYC in a year from now?
No the price won't be smashed down. But if the BCY goes 100 fold we might adjust price in order not to have 1000 USD per card (Until the whole supply is sold, then the market will set the price). Since we are burning BitCrystals every month we could reach a point where the price of a card could be even bigger than the market supply. So the value in fiat currency (USD) won't go lower but higher. But in any case no quick decision without a community consultation. Yodark the solution is quite simple: 1) The price of the old card must remain the same over time, the fact that now those cards are overpriced in fiat money do define their rarity and it is the reward for early adopters. But 2) The price of NEW cards Must be smashed now (imho). Let's say about 30%-40% less in bcy terms, to give a chance to buy one to not so wealthy people and most important to new adopters, those that did not do the crowdsale. My take is: You really have to take in account bcy and bitcoin volatility by designing the new cards price curve on some fiat money alghoritm. After all, we hope (or think) that the most of the revenue stream and burning power will came from Apple Store and Google Play trought fiat money,sometime in 2016. |
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I think that the Open Bazaar Card will be the best seller SoG blockchain card ever.
Open Bazaar is a sort of magic project, i will buy one for sure, only to own one.
I will be surprise iif n the first day (today) we will stand under 80.000bcy collected for BazaarCard.
Wait and see....
p.s. but there is a problem, now the price in fiat money is realy huge, at 0.00095bcy/btc and 275$ btc/$ we are talking about 29.7$ for one card (regular price of 1200 bcy after early rebates). Only people from western world can afford it. Boy... is a card.
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WELCOME TO OPEN BAZAAR ASKIAN'S FREE MARKET FOR ALL | SoG is launching a new partner card, in collaboration with OpenBazaar. |
| OpenBazaar is a peer-to-peer marketplace, with no fees and restrictions, allowing
people to freely trade with each other. |
| OPENBAZAAR card, issued in a limited supply of 1 000 units, will be on sale from Thursday,
October 22nd, 3pm CEST. Its initial price will be 400 BCY and the price schedule will be as
follows (all the times are indicated in CEST, unless otherwise specified): |
| Thu, Oct 22nd 3pm - 3:30pm: 400 BCY | | Thu, Oct 22nd 3:30pm - 4pm: 500 BCY | | Thu, Oct 22nd 4pm - 5pm: 600 BCY | | Thu, Oct 22nd 5pm - Fri, Oct 23rd 10am: 800 BCY | | Fri, Oct 23rd 10am - Wed, Oct 28th 10am CET: 1 000 BCY | | From Wed, Oct 28th 10 am CET further on: 1 200 BCY |
and the winner is....... clap clap clap |
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Just checking in, I appreciate the weekly updates on the blog, but the market seems to think this project is dead. Now with Cryptsy apparently going full GOX and masterexchange shutting down- is it even possible to buy mastercoin anymore?
I guess everyone moved to poloniex(already called it omni) , you also have BTER, and omniwallet.org, and soon the new dex.. Yes Dex, you mentioned Dex. Question of week! 1000 weeks more, 1000 weeks less. To be serius, when Omnis were be burned for some kind of service? |
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......... | Tue, October 20th, 3pm - 4pm: 400 BCY | | Tue, October 20t 4pm - 6pm: 600 BCY | | Tue, October 20th, 6pm - Wed, October 21st, 10am: 800 BCY | | Wed, October 21st, 10am - Fri, October 23rd, 10am: 1 000 BCY | | From Friday, October 23rd, 10am further on: 1 200 BCY |
Hallo sorry but don't you think that bcy and bitcoin volatility is an issue? I Mean, now 1 bcy worth about 30% more than a week ago, and bitcoin 5% more than a week ago. In Fiat Money cards are 35% more costly than a week ago. I noticed that almost no cards were sold in the past 72 hour, I don't think this fact is uncorrelated with bcy and bitcoin rising price. Do you have any strategy about the natural volatility of bitcrystal and bitcoin? After all cards are made for all, not for high net worth customers (or not?). The recent rise in BCY prices on the exchanges is a direct result of rising demand for this token by people wanting to buy new cards. Naturally we can expect a general upward price trend for BCY considering that half of the BCY collected by EverdreamSoft in new card sales will be burned. I would expect inicial sale prices for new cards to be continually adjusted in view of the market dynamics of BCY price. On the other hand, I suppose you are not aware of the fact that the partner store is now open and partners did in fact buy limited edition RIPPLECARD and BLOCKSIZECD today and will be able to continue doing so for another month, before sales of these cards will be opened to players with access to the premium store. So it is not accurate to state that almost no cards were sold in the past 72 hours. There were also additional cards resold on the Counterparty DEX. I know cause I made a purchase there myself recently, and the TX information is freely available for anyone to check on blockscan.com. Edit: BCY price went down significantly late monday night after someone dumped a large amount on poloniex so I suppose too high of a price for BCY will not be a concern for the time being  Well I think that the bcy huge downside movement was not exactly voluntary  . ( I was not in the book damn it!!!). Thank you for the information about BlocksizeCD and Ripplecard I missed it. Said that: volatility is an issue, specially in those very first day of bcy quotation, I,'m curios to see how everdreamsoft will manage it. Whit new card? Or adjusting the price (in Bcy) of the old card? |
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......... | Tue, October 20th, 3pm - 4pm: 400 BCY | | Tue, October 20t 4pm - 6pm: 600 BCY | | Tue, October 20th, 6pm - Wed, October 21st, 10am: 800 BCY | | Wed, October 21st, 10am - Fri, October 23rd, 10am: 1 000 BCY | | From Friday, October 23rd, 10am further on: 1 200 BCY |
Hallo sorry but don't you think that bcy and bitcoin volatility is an issue? I Mean, now 1 bcy worth about 30% more than a week ago, and bitcoin 5% more than a week ago. In Fiat Money cards are 35% more costly than a week ago. I noticed that almost no cards were sold in the past 72 hour, I don't think this fact is uncorrelated with bcy and bitcoin rising prices. Do you have any strategy about the natural volatility of bitcrystal and bitcoin? After all cards are made for all, not for high net worth customers (or not?). |
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......... | Tue, October 20th, 3pm - 4pm: 400 BCY | | Tue, October 20t 4pm - 6pm: 600 BCY | | Tue, October 20th, 6pm - Wed, October 21st, 10am: 800 BCY | | Wed, October 21st, 10am - Fri, October 23rd, 10am: 1 000 BCY | | From Friday, October 23rd, 10am further on: 1 200 BCY |
Hallo sorry but don't you think that bcy and bitcoin volatility is an issue? I Mean, now 1 bcy worth about 30% more than a week ago, and bitcoin 5% more than a week ago. In Fiat Money cards are 35% more costly than a week ago. I noticed that almost no cards were sold in the past 72 hour, I don't think this fact is uncorrelated with bcy and bitcoin rising price. Do you have any strategy about the natural volatility of bitcrystal and bitcoin? After all cards are made for all, not for high net worth customers (or not?). |
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......For now we are focusing on blockchain only card issuance. When it will come to large public purchase AppStore, a lead could be to allow people to store their purchase off-chain only. After certain time allowing people to convert their asset into a digital asset.
Another lead is to partnership with a bitcoin transmitter company (cicle, coinbase...) to directly offer Bitcoin or BCY purchase in the game without using the store system
But still this is still open to discussion in any case we are going to have this open and transparent.
Just to point that, SoG team know the issue. The key is After certain time allowing people to convert their asset into a digital asset., "certain time" probably will be when is impossible or very difficult to obtain a charge back. In my opinion, it is still possible to make people who want convert digital asset in blockchain non reversible asset sign an agreement were they give up for any charge back. |
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Uhhhhmmmm....
I noticed that Omni (Mastercoin) is on the rise, just when MasteXchange is closing.
Uhhhhmmmm....
And if (i say if) someone is buying Omni (mastercoin) just because there is no Omni (mastercoin) on the exchange, and so, no Omni (mastecoin) to manage withdrawal requests?
Ok, malicious thinking I know.
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We are talking about a certain % of buyer that "probably" could issue some charge back (numbers are know for every single category of good and services)
What are the numbers for digital tokens that can be quickly, easily, and anonymously liquidated at high volume? This has no chance of working. Sorry, i don't think that you understand the way SOG link between fiat money and bitcrystals. Yodark saw that cards sold whit fiat money aren't crypto asset, but that is possible to convert those centralized asset it in crypto asset after a certain time (... when any charge back claim is not even possible). With Visa and MasterCard, do you realize that "certain time" is 540 days (18 months)? No. The time is from 7 to 120 days. http://blog.unibulmerchantservices.com/visa-chargeback-reason-codes-and-time-limits/ https://chargebacks911.com/chargeback-time-limit/Yes. Hit Ctrl+F and do an in-page search for "540" in the page you linked to: https://chargebacks911.com/chargeback-time-limit/Please, are you here for the taste of a discussion or are you here to solve a problem? After 120 days you can use funds not claim for charge back and you can freeze those funds claim for chargeback (till 540 days). Nothing special. Everdream soft have to wait 120 days for charge backs, then use free fiat money in non reversible transaction and freeze the part claim for chargeback. Not a too complicated algorithm. Anyway, it is predictable that the most of the transacion will not generate chargebacks, so everdream soft could work with a 120 days rolling "chargeback fund", a % of the net proceed for future charge back. I tell you again: It is a basic work for a dumb risk manager. |
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We are talking about a certain % of buyer that "probably" could issue some charge back (numbers are know for every single category of good and services)
What are the numbers for digital tokens that can be quickly, easily, and anonymously liquidated at high volume? This has no chance of working. Sorry, i don't think that you understand the way SOG link between fiat money and bitcrystals. Yodark saw that cards sold whit fiat money aren't crypto asset, but that is possible to convert those centralized asset it in crypto asset after a certain time (... when any charge back claim is not even possible). With Visa and MasterCard, do you realize that "certain time" is 540 days (18 months)? No. The time is from 7 to 120 days. http://blog.unibulmerchantservices.com/visa-chargeback-reason-codes-and-time-limits/ https://chargebacks911.com/chargeback-time-limit/ |
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dyi7yMsqDOxCzk2cf9slODeein2L4GCDVubCY706QR8/edit#gid=0I do some changing. For some reason the a big amount of bcy collected from ltbbcard, xajbasilaar, zaifcard are still in their swapbot addresses. So I added those addresses in the total. Now for the Otober burning we have: 651.926 bcy collected and 325.963 bcy to be burned. Just a quick note. At 0.00009 Btc for 1 Bcy, the market spent 58,67 bitcoins for cards. That is : 15.840$ at current rate. Not so bad. p.s. probably, now cards are too expensive in fiat money, iper volatility in alt-coins and in bitcoin is an issue that have to be solved.
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