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781  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Pirate Pass Through Bonds! on: June 14, 2012, 10:06:26 PM
Just google it, curl is a command line program (there are also Windows versions) that is used to interact with webservers. You can then (with Windows) put the line posted above in a batch file and have the task scheduler call the batch file at exactly the time you specify. If you learned how to use computers back then, this should anyways be kinda familiar... Wink

To find out about lag, you can try to put up test orders at 99999 BTC or so and check how long it takes until they show up (maybe 1-2 seconds I guess?) so you can then issue the sell order at xx:59:59 to have it at exactly yy:00:00

What happens when the lag changes?
782  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Pirate Pass Through Bonds! on: June 14, 2012, 10:01:58 PM
I thought the idea was to sell exactly at the right second.
Maybe that was the idea, but it hasn't been realized Smiley

Just look at the last sell of PPT.B - the time stamps are from GLBS decoded to my local time (they all should be 04:00:00)
Code:
2012-06-02 03:59:06   250 1.30000000
2012-06-02 03:59:06     1 1.06100000
2012-06-02 03:59:06     2 1.05100000
2012-06-02 03:59:06     2 1.05033000
2012-06-02 03:59:07     1 1.05030000
2012-06-02 03:59:07   490 1.05021000
2012-06-02 03:59:07   200 1.05020000
2012-06-02 03:59:08   100 1.05010000
2012-06-02 03:59:08   180 1.04800000
2012-06-02 03:59:08    13 1.04701000
2012-06-02 03:59:08    15 1.04652000
2012-06-02 03:59:08    25 1.04620000
2012-06-02 03:59:09    20 1.04601000
2012-06-02 03:59:09    15 1.04600010
2012-06-02 03:59:09   200 1.04570000
2012-06-02 03:59:09   120 1.04561000
2012-06-02 03:59:09    15 1.04560000
2012-06-02 03:59:09    10 1.04500000
2012-06-02 03:59:10   200 1.04500000
2012-06-02 03:59:10    47 1.04400001
2012-06-02 03:59:10    27 1.04350000
2012-06-02 03:59:10    33 1.04333330
2012-06-02 03:59:10    81 1.04300000
2012-06-02 03:59:10    29 1.04261110
2012-06-02 03:59:10    26 1.04230000
2012-06-02 03:59:10     1 1.04200000
2012-06-02 03:59:11   100 1.04120000
2012-06-02 03:59:11    64 1.04100005
2012-06-02 03:59:11     1 1.04100000
2012-06-02 03:59:11    90 1.04100000
2012-06-02 03:59:11     1 1.04100000
2012-06-02 03:59:11     3 1.04030000
2012-06-02 03:59:12   101 1.04020001
2012-06-02 03:59:12   200 1.04020000
2012-06-02 03:59:12    10 1.04010001
2012-06-02 03:59:12   100 1.04010000
2012-06-02 03:59:12     1 1.04000000
2012-06-02 03:59:12     5 1.03800001
2012-06-02 03:59:12   221 1.03800000

This is why synchronization is important.  The synchronization would increase in frequency as the countdown reaches 0.  After that, the sales happen in order until they are all filled so it depends on the speed of the GLBSE servers.
783  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Pirate Pass Through Bonds! on: June 14, 2012, 09:48:50 PM
I don't use APIs - I could probably learn, but the effort (cost) outweighs the benefit.  Just like I could improve my web authoring skills, learn some new programming languages and a whole lot of other stuff.

It's easy for me to set the sell and wait for the clock to get to 2:00:00

784  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Pirate Pass Through Bonds! on: June 14, 2012, 09:44:42 PM
Isn't it just as simple, as using curl to post quantity=3000&price=100000000&ticker=PPT.D to https://glbse.com/api/market/buy/API-ID/API-KEY ?

That is part of it.

1.  Get selling criteria (What bond ticker to sell and how many of them to sell.)
2.  Verify connection
3.  Synchronize clock with GLBSE.
4.  Time to sell? If not then go to 3.  If yes, curl to post quantity=3000&price=100000000&ticker=PPT.D to https://glbse.com/api/market/buy/API-ID/API-KEY
5.  Sell bonds.
6.  Evaluate results (save bond sale history, email whoever)
7.  End
Neee.. You can just use runat or put the command into cron or windows scheduler, if you prefer.

And the GLBSE clock is pretty well synchronized - just synchronize yours to some NTP server.

6. Evaluating results - it's obviously a different task.
Though number 7 - the end - this one seems quite simple Tongue

No, The program should be synchronized with the host server where the selling will be done and have a countdown to the sell time.  If chron is set up to sell at 01:00:00 UTC then the sale will probably occur at 01:00:05 to 01:00:15 UTC.

I thought the idea was to sell exactly at the right second.

Also, what would happen if GLBSE was down right at the sale time? A connection needs to be verified beforehand, so then the connection to GLBSE should be made before the actual sale occurs to make sure GLBSE is not down or slow.  Synchronization and verification of GLBSE working could be done with one step.  That means the program needs a trigger to sell.  Since a connection to GLBSE was made and its server time was collected, a countdown would be the best way to trigger a sale.
785  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Pirate Pass Through Bonds! on: June 14, 2012, 09:28:04 PM
Isn't it just as simple, as using curl to post quantity=3000&price=100000000&ticker=PPT.D to https://glbse.com/api/market/buy/API-ID/API-KEY ?

That is part of it.

1.  Get selling criteria (What bond ticker to sell and how many of them to sell.)
2.  Verify connection
3.  Synchronize clock with GLBSE.
4.  Time to sell? If not then go to 3.  If yes, curl to post quantity=3000&price=100000000&ticker=PPT.D to https://glbse.com/api/market/buy/API-ID/API-KEY
5.  Sell bonds.
6.  Evaluate results (save bond sale history, email whoever)
7.  End
786  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Pirate Pass Through Bonds! on: June 14, 2012, 07:19:00 AM
This week's zero coupon bond is now open for bidding at https://glbse.com/asset/view/PPT.D

Are you still pushing buttons to release the bonds for sale?
Yes.  But, I do have someone working on a script to do this for us in the near future.

When is the estimated completion of that?
787  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Pirate Pass Through Bonds! on: June 14, 2012, 07:07:17 AM
This week's zero coupon bond is now open for bidding at https://glbse.com/asset/view/PPT.D

Are you still pushing buttons to release the bonds for sale?
788  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you take drugs; or buy them on silk road? Or sell them for that matter? on: June 14, 2012, 06:35:37 AM
Never done drugs. I'm probably addicted to dopamine (judging by how many times I boink my girlfriend in a day) so I think doing drugs for me would probably be a bad idea. It also doesn't make sense to me, as with drinking alcohol or smoking. None of them ever interested me even in the slightest.

As for Silk road, I think any marketplace where you can sell -anything- is rather interesting, but having absolutely no interest in drugs myself makes it seem kind of a waste. Where are the wikileaks style cables we can buy for $20? The hidden videos of CEOs raping their employees, or other interesting stuff people would totally buy? Why drugs?  Roll Eyes

Let's make the internet fun again, not just a mirror of the already boring world of losers.

Although I haven't visited the website in quite a while, last time I checked there was "information" for sale.  It was being talked about at least - example like inside information (IPO,people working for a law firm... ) I am not sure if it was ever followed through.  My luck would be that it was some guy from the FBI doing some undercover bullshit.  Too risky for me anyway.

Anyone remember Fucked Company?
No off topic please :/ This is meant to prove to the world that bitcoiners are not druggies.

Because the world really gives a crap if bitcoiners are druggies and your poll will really convince them.

To do a better study, you should try to find how many bitcoins are exchanged through SR.  Find that proportion and then use the DEA's estimation of how large is the illegal narcotics trade is in USD.  Then compare the proportions and see who the real abusers of drugs are.

Taking DMT is on my bucket list... Oops, our brains already make it naturally.
789  Economy / Gambling / Re: Running a site legally (OR how to do it and not get a boyfriend?) on: June 14, 2012, 06:24:09 AM
So I have some ideas that I think could make some BTC; however I am hesitant because of the US Government's hostile attitude toward online gambling combined with bitcoin.

I see that our favorite SatoshiDICE is registered in AU (although it is a .com so the US govt could seize it) and they use cloud flare as a buffer that is all good and what not; however isn't CloudFLARE a US company?  Couldn't they be compelled to release what IP (and therefore the location of) the actual server?

Even sites that are 100% outside the US they don't like.  Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_gambling#United_States, the BetOnSports paragraph.  The guy wasn't even planning on going into the US and they still got him.  Who knows, the plane might have actually be diverted on purpose when it was found out that David Carruthers was on the passenger manifest.

How can one legally put their gaming ideas to work?

Someone in AU want to partner?

the government is the least of your worries running a gambling site.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/116975/online_extortion_ring_broken_up.html
790  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: June 14, 2012, 05:22:21 AM
If you already know the answer, what's the sense in Googling it?

Isn't that the topic of this tread?
791  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: GLBSE 2.0 open for testing on: June 13, 2012, 10:52:50 PM
Oh, and one more thing: the clock on your server is 6 hours late Tongue
GLBSE Time should be EST, what time zone are you in?
I don't understand the problem.
The website clearly states: GLBSETime
Technically, the clock can be whatever it wants to be.  Roll Eyes

I really hate timezones, my watch is set to UTC.

That's a really good idea. Except for the conversions to local time... Roll Eyes

-5 for me.
792  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: GLBSE 2.0 open for testing on: June 13, 2012, 09:34:16 PM
Oh, and one more thing: the clock on your server is 6 hours late Tongue
GLBSE Time should be EST, what time zone are you in?
I don't understand the problem.
The website clearly states: GLBSETime
Technically, the clock can be whatever it wants to be.  Roll Eyes

I really hate timezones, my watch is set to UTC.
793  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Zimmerman arrested for 2nd degree murder for killing Trayvon Martin on: June 13, 2012, 09:25:41 PM
Does anyone not find it ironic that the money Zimmerman collected for his "defense fund" is what got him back in jail and may put his wife in there too.
794  Economy / Securities / Re: (TyGrr) TyGrr-Bot ~automated arbitrage trading system~ on: June 13, 2012, 08:09:39 PM
Also, for anyone who wondered, HorseRider likes to troll Goat's posts (and now that I said this here, probably mine).
I find HorseRider's comments contrarian and informative.  Not everyone should be rooting for the home team.
In this case, they may be, and for the record, I don't hold TyGrr-Bot.  See the post history for said HorseRider.  Unless it has been deleted, you will understand why I felt compelled to point this out.

I have read them all, I also called HorseRider a troll before but then I got a PM from them and HorseRider seemed truly concerned.
795  Economy / Securities / Re: (TyGrr) TyGrr-Bot ~automated arbitrage trading system~ on: June 13, 2012, 07:46:20 PM
Also, for anyone who wondered, HorseRider likes to troll Goat's posts (and now that I said this here, probably mine).

I find HorseRider's comments contrarian and informative.  Not everyone should be rooting for the home team.
796  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: June 12, 2012, 09:01:01 AM
Why would it grow?
I already told you why: so Gigamining would not end up dead. Otherwise it will - despite of "growing"

It is a bond, not a share, the bond issuer wants their debt to end up dead.  Doesn't everyone?
797  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: June 12, 2012, 08:56:25 AM

Of course it will happen. ASICs are there already and they will be getting cheaper and faster - month by month...

As far as I know, ASICs for Bitcoins are still in the designing phase and no actual chips are mining now. Could you point URL to me to support "are there already" please?
AFAIK, the butterfly labs hardware is based on ASICs.
And moreover, if anyone else is working on his own chip, he doesn't want to disclose this information.
There is a lot of money on stake here and turning an FPGA solution (which do exist) into a much cheaper ASIC is relatively easy nowadays.

If the 5MH/bond stays fixed forever, the dividends will get lower and lower and the bond price will eventually go down to zero - it's only a question of when.
Anyone buying it are aware of this. They are all betting that the dropping of dividends will be slow enough to let the cover the initial price. You are just the one who bet on the opposite. If you are so confident about your bet, you could short the bonds.
But it doesn't need to be like this.
As the business is growing, thus buying more efficient equipment, I see no reason why the promised 5MH could not grow along with it.
Otherwise new mining companies will appear, offering a better hashing power for a lower share price - while Gigaminig will end up dead.

Why would it grow?  You bought a debt obligation that will pay out whatever 5 MH/s makes.  That is like purchasing a bond that pays out 5% per year and hoping they increase it to 6% instead.
798  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: June 12, 2012, 06:02:26 AM
Learning a lot of reading this last pages  Smiley
Just a question tho. How do you get this data?

                                .Open      .High      .Low       .Close       .Volume .Adjusted
2012-06-09 23:58:09  1.420000  1.497000 1.401100 1.497000     334     1.440984
2012-06-10 23:33:48  1.411100  1.411100 1.300100 1.300100    1026    1.361202
2012-06-11 15:17:18  1.375000  1.490000 1.010000 1.350000     966     1.406405

Got it from me which is from my GLBSE parser bot.  If people are interested I can have downloadable links of this data for all the assets on GLBSE.  If so, reply in one of my other threads (see my signature too) so as to not get off topic from GIGAMINING.
799  Economy / Securities / Re: Motions Raised! Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive on [GLBSE] on: June 12, 2012, 04:03:17 AM
What happened ? COGNITIVE    30@0.0000002 Somebody mistyped ?

Maybe another compromised account

I can sadly confirm this theory :/

Sorry to hear that. Didnt  you have 2 factor auth setup?

Yes, recommended for everyone.
800  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: June 11, 2012, 06:06:44 PM
Code:
                        .Open     .High     .Low   .Close .Volume .Adjusted
2012-04-10 23:06:58 10.000000 10.000000 1.250000 1.399900     562  1.298217
2012-04-11 23:08:19  1.399900  1.400000 1.201000 1.298000     140  1.331024
2012-04-12 22:01:21  1.298000  1.369000 1.298000 1.369000     105  1.301048
2012-04-13 22:12:31  1.369000  1.399900 1.350000 1.399900      19  1.382742
2012-04-14 23:46:51  1.399900  1.549800 1.399900 1.549000      38  1.434865
2012-04-15 23:25:17  1.549000  1.600000 1.545000 1.550000      87  1.567988
2012-04-16 23:16:32  1.549000  1.600000 1.391000 1.600000      88  1.563457
2012-04-17 22:19:18  1.590000  1.600000 1.550000 1.550000     148  1.593980
2012-04-18 20:34:23  1.530000  1.550000 1.530000 1.549900      18  1.546594
2012-04-19 23:02:09  1.550000  1.590000 1.513000 1.589000     118  1.537614
2012-04-20 13:02:58  1.588000  1.590000 1.588000 1.590000      15  1.588333
2012-04-21 22:54:27  1.581000  1.581000 1.550000 1.550000      36  1.568944
2012-04-22 23:27:02  1.550000  1.550000 1.516000 1.550000     182  1.545712
2012-04-23 22:35:57  1.550000  1.550000 1.500000 1.501000     242  1.545265
2012-04-24 23:26:53  1.500000  1.550000 1.400100 1.489999     355  1.504266
2012-04-25 19:57:59  1.489999  1.510000 1.480000 1.480000    1172  1.501558
2012-04-26 21:26:34  1.480010  1.510000 1.470000 1.510000     761  1.507933
2012-04-27 19:09:37  1.509000  1.510000 1.480000 1.510000     316  1.505361
2012-04-28 20:44:57  1.500000  1.510000 1.480000 1.510000      37  1.486573
2012-04-29 23:36:41  1.510000  1.510000 1.480000 1.510000     394  1.509848
2012-04-30 22:09:57  1.510000  1.510000 1.510000 1.510000      26  1.510000
2012-05-01 23:55:25  1.510000  1.510000 1.490000 1.510000     100  1.505250
2012-05-02 23:28:20  1.490000  1.510000 1.410110 1.509900     153  1.508752
2012-05-03 23:46:55  1.509000  1.510000 1.465000 1.510000     348  1.509267
2012-05-04 21:45:56  1.510000  1.510000 1.467501 1.510000     153  1.495078
2012-05-05 23:27:21  1.510000  1.572000 1.510000 1.570000    1369  1.511736
2012-05-06 21:27:37  1.568600  1.572000 1.540000 1.572000      68  1.564047
2012-05-07 23:19:02  1.571800  1.670000 1.500000 1.510000    1309  1.524814
2012-05-08 23:45:27  1.510000  1.510000 1.400000 1.400000     215  1.485087
2012-05-09 22:31:22  1.401000  1.510000 1.401000 1.500000     199  1.482565
2012-05-10 18:55:01  1.500000  1.500000 1.500000 1.500000     278  1.500000
2012-05-11 22:12:47  1.500000  1.520000 1.500000 1.520000    1183  1.500127
2012-05-12 20:39:48  1.500000  1.549900 1.500000 1.500000     100  1.503601
2012-05-13 23:12:44  1.500000  1.500000 1.480000 1.490000    1059  1.499104
2012-05-14 21:02:39  1.500000  1.510000 1.490000 1.509990     341  1.504702
2012-05-15 23:58:08  1.509900  1.509990 1.509900 1.509990      55  1.509951
2012-05-16 17:34:41  1.509990  1.510000 1.500000 1.510000     138  1.509686
2012-05-17 16:43:49  1.510000  1.519000 1.510000 1.518700      42  1.514064
2012-05-18 21:26:40  1.518600  1.519000 1.400010 1.499990     403  1.480669
2012-05-19 23:53:28  1.499990  1.549800 1.499990 1.549800     160  1.518371
2012-05-20 21:01:34  1.549700  1.549700 1.510000 1.546000     222  1.541210
2012-05-21 23:51:53  1.531500  1.531500 1.490000 1.520000     136  1.521604
2012-05-22 23:29:26  1.500000  1.500000 1.427000 1.490000     194  1.488490
2012-05-23 23:24:43  1.490000  1.500000 1.470000 1.500000     101  1.494455
2012-05-24 23:45:26  1.499000  1.499000 1.490000 1.499000      93  1.498290
2012-05-25 23:55:46  1.486000  1.499000 1.486000 1.498000      36  1.494639
2012-05-26 21:30:31  1.490000  1.498000 1.470000 1.490000     299  1.489575
2012-05-27 23:00:32  1.490000  1.518800 1.440000 1.500000    1039  1.484574
2012-05-28 23:29:23  1.485000  1.500000 1.111000 1.480000     844  1.359453
2012-05-29 21:49:45  1.480000  1.490000 1.380000 1.485000     141  1.445376
2012-05-30 22:03:51  1.485000  1.490000 1.375000 1.487000     431  1.427811
2012-05-31 23:17:23  1.490000  1.499790 1.487000 1.497900     250  1.498004
2012-06-01 23:20:17  1.499460  1.499690 1.455000 1.479690     170  1.489432
2012-06-02 22:57:58  1.479690  1.479690 1.430200 1.479579     357  1.462600
2012-06-03 22:09:56  1.479579  1.479579 1.440100 1.479579     102  1.477660
2012-06-04 23:54:32  1.479579  1.499900 1.390000 1.450000     453  1.450551
2012-06-05 21:58:43  1.480100  1.484780 1.420100 1.480000     270  1.479429
2012-06-06 22:37:27  1.450201  1.518000 1.420000 1.490000     969  1.483023
2012-06-07 23:53:04  1.499300  1.499400 1.460000 1.460000     209  1.478927
2012-06-08 23:45:56  1.460200  1.487900 1.390000 1.420000    1188  1.415520
2012-06-09 23:58:09  1.420000  1.497000 1.401100 1.497000     334  1.440984
2012-06-10 23:33:48  1.411100  1.411100 1.300100 1.300100    1026  1.361202
2012-06-11 15:17:18  1.375000  1.490000 1.010000 1.350000     966  1.406405

In other words: what is all the worry about, exactly ?


Yep, I don't know what the fuss was about.
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