I show a high of $10,000,00 on bitcoincharts on CryptoX. That high should be corrected.
Yeah I was monitoring their prices as the exchange went down. I noticed a ridiculous buy order for about ~$1mill AUD (give or take a few zeros) for 0.1BTC. Must have been everybody else trying to sell their 0.1btc to this guy to make a killing Shortly after their site went down. I wish I got that order...
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cryptoxchange, I'm talking about getting regular (non MtGox exclusive) YubiKeys directly from their store.
nelisky, thanks for supporting the idea ! I'll edit the first post asking people to post their continent along with potential YubiKey amount.
Yes I know, that is exactly what we buy and sell. They are fantastic. I was just letting you know they won't work with MtGox thats all. Thanks Crypto X Change I bulk bought 10 a few weeks back as i wanted a couple for personal use. With more and more money being stored in virtual accounts, yubikey security combined with something like lastpass for all your other accounts is a good idea. Happy to sell my remaining 5 yubikeys for $20 a piece (postage included within Australia, a little more elsewhere) or the equivalent BTC amount. PM me if you're interested, i'll put a proper post up about this in the trading forum somewhere eventually.
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3) transaction fees. While most of the technology oriented people are comfortable with paying per KB, most people will find it confusing and unfair (since it will seem random). In addition this adds unnecessary complications to speculative trading in bitcoins - i.e. you have to trust an exchange to do the trading since doing it by yourself can lead to huge transaction fees in the long run.
I've always been confused about this... it does seem real random to me why sometimes I'm forced to pay the 0.0005 btc transfer fee??? Can someone explain?
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20 per hour / 24 hours per day - round up to 500 purchases.
At $50 each (rough guess - could be as much as $100, and expensive items will make the mean a lot more than the median) that is $25,000/day. Or $9.1 million/year.
Now the Bitcoin money supply is currently worth roughly $53 million.
If the velocity of each BTC is 5, then you'd need $265 million/year of trading activity to sustain the economy. Obviously some people are holding on to it for speculation (very low velocity: 0-1) and others are trading it for goods and services.
Does anyone know the current velocity of the US dollar? I suspect the BTC velocity is a lot more as most people who use it to trade are converting it back into regular currency to avoid fluctuation risks.
I'd guess that Silk Road could run fine with a Bitcoin money supply of around $250,000-$1 million (gives people 10-40 days to convert into non-BTCs). Or another way to think of this is that Silk Road is backing 0.5% to 2% of the BTC economy.
Care to explain to everyone the significance of velocity in economic terms?
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What are my options for selling my mined bitcoins and receiving payment in pounds. MTGox and tradehill seem to have very high fees for wire transfer, I've looked at britcoin(intersango) and the no fee appeals but I'm worried they don't have much liquidity are there any other options.
Additionally I was thinking about trading, could I register a dwolla account to transfer to/from MtGox and Tradehill, this service is US only at the moment but do they check the address you enter?
Thanks for helping
If you are dealing with small amounts why are you worried about liquidity? Intersango has free trades, free deposits/withdrawals in the UK and they have a considerable volume. It seems like the obvious choice to me. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a bitcoin exchange in their country... Yeah I trade a lot with GBP on both Gox and Intersango. I'd say go with Intersango definitely. Its plenty liquid enough and tracks the USD price of Gox (the most liquid exchange) very very closely.
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A friend mentioned he did a PHD paper on it... I remember his PHD lecturer taking us all to to the casino once... a slave to money lol
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Nice first post. Totally agree, although thats a handful out of hundreds if not thousands. Priority's and perceived benefits will differ from person to person.
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While I'm certainly no expert, I can give you the basics. First off, you would need to diversify your investments. Investing $300 in one company is risky, although the amount of money isn't a lot. Try to find 4-5 companies you would like to make a medium term investment in, and spread your investments over these companies. Then I would start saving money monthly and placing them evenly into these stocks. That way you get the habit of saving money, at the same time as you spread your risk and gain the money from stock prices going up. If one of the stocks goes down, hopefully it will be covered by the rising value of the rest of your portfolio.
In terms of diversification, its a sound, well proven investment philosophy. One which you should teach yourself early on. Whatever you choose, invest a small portion of your money in bitcoins
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Do you anything about the daily volume?
You mean: "Are you the person running Silk Road?" here, I got a simple estimate for you. on SR front page, they have 10 most recent feedbacks. You can check the time when they were left. just now, the last one of the 10 was left half an hour ago. which gives a (very rough) estimate of 20 purchases per hour. if you are interested you can collect more data, along with the average price, daily fluctuations, etc., but i can't be bothered. Are all the listings US based? If they are multiply the 20 purchases per hour for daytime hours only, assuming most people wont be up in the middle of the night. Also if its anything like ebay (disclaimer- i've never seen SR) then a small portion of buyers won't leave feedback. Assuming this happens, 22 purchases per hour multiplied by a conservative 10 hour day. 220ish purchases per day. Again very rough. Are all payments made via bitcoin on SR?
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<chsados> phantomcircuit my theory is that bot manipulating the price of mtgox/bitcoinicas instant buy buttons <chsados> hoping to get mtgox buyers who dont check the order book <phantomcircuit> chsados, my theory as well <chsados> i also thing the bot is putting in medium sized buy orders when theres not much activity to jump the price up to move it closer to its large sell wall Is that like somebodys way of scalping for profits? I'm pretty sure you could counter that bot and make a killing from it by understanding how it works.
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Apologies about the slower than usual support tickets- this comes at an unfortunate time for us when a) we are restructuring as a company internally b) meetings with investors all this week and c) the team is in various places for various reasons. We will be hiring new support staff by the end of this month to handle more of the tickets.
I dont mean to be nosy but I'm curious. A. How big is the company? B. How are you going to operate profitably if you charge 0 fees and take 0% on trades? Is it all investor driven and are you open to investment opportunities? Part of me wanting to know is because I'm reluctant to invest time and money into a trading account at a brokerage which will be here 1 day and gone the next. We've seen it happen all too often in the community.
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Me neither... but on a side note, i've noticed a lot of > 0.01 BTC trades placed. The only explanation I can think of is bots testing for market movements? Why bother otherwise? I think its trades like that in huge numbers which really slow broker trading engines down.
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... now where's their donate bitcoin section
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I've noticed that however much the the USD price for bitcoin fluctuates the relative GBP price moves at an almost identical rate which is pretty much the same as the USDGBP exchange rate on the open market.
Can anybody explain the economics behind how it stays balanced at all times? I'm guessing it must be related to bots trading and matching against current exchange rates?
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also, they need to fix their damned API and MtGoxlive feature... they make enough money from our trades. perhaps it is time that someone begin working on a new trading platform we can switch to so that these irresponsible self-appointed bitcoin police won't have a monopoly on our trades.
Whats the problem with their API / MtGoxlive? it regularly becomes unresponsive during massive price movements I've never had a problem with this arepo although I'm only using the POST method, are you referring to the websocket connections?
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also, they need to fix their damned API and MtGoxlive feature... they make enough money from our trades. perhaps it is time that someone begin working on a new trading platform we can switch to so that these irresponsible self-appointed bitcoin police won't have a monopoly on our trades.
Whats the problem with their API / MtGoxlive?
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Awesome... just like a bloomberg terminal for those trying to emulate the awesomeness of being a trader
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https://www.bitcoinica.com/ might have what you're after, I've never used it myself but I know it has a lot more features than most brokers.
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Best of luck genjix. What is suspicious about transfers less than £20?
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Hi. I coded up an API for the World Bitcoin Exchange site a while back. How would you like to be its first user? I've done a bunch of testing, and it looks good to go, but so far we've not announced it as being available. If you want to try it out, tell me your WBX userid, or openid, and I'll get you set up. I prefer email ( dooglus@gmail.com) but PM here works for me too. Chris. Would love to buddy! Email sent.
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