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781  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 12, 2016, 01:35:12 PM
Empoli vs Crotone. Both teams have a bad start and i'm surprised the handicap is -1. I pick Over 2.5 goals and Crotone spread for this match, i think this match will ended with draw.

Your true friend, this time a match empolu vs crotone has a very stressful game round. because it has a very game crotone fun. I also think that this time matches have a uniqueness and will be very interesting because every team has the same desire
782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Omicron - Dividend-Issuing Cryptocurrency - 5% off IAO active on: September 12, 2016, 01:29:02 PM
Low supply, people stacking the coin to get dividends and bonus for early investors. I think this ico is going to do great Tongue
It would be awesome if we can get listed in bittrex but i know is not that easy.

i think much people interest buy omcron coin
in now progress selling this ico is good, i think until end ico selling this collect much investor in buy omicron

Yup many people interest to buy omicron, because it has a potential that the price of this coin will rise, when this coin is in exchanger. Like me im interested but why do we need to get slacks invitation? Why other altcoin dont have this, in their site just create account and deposit thats it.
The slack is sort of group chat not all invest in omicron need slack it is optional would just join . So it's okay to invest even if you do not have slack invitation . Because it was not important if you do not want to join . Just invest and enjoy the 5 % off  omicron .

Most of us have a sense of pessimism in advance against which is considered something new. It was always I felt every moment there are altcoin, crypto or otherwise. But it turned out to be quite a good effect for the life of me, because I can get some benefit from aau crypto altcoin has the same potential. So with OMICRON I see it has the advantage that is enough for the future. So don't ever doubt
783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Omicron - Dividend-Issuing Cryptocurrency - 5% off IAO active on: September 11, 2016, 02:40:42 PM
Low supply, people stacking the coin to get dividends and bonus for early investors. I think this ico is going to do great Tongue
It would be awesome if we can get listed in bittrex but i know is not that easy.

i think much people interest buy omcron coin
in now progress selling this ico is good, i think until end ico selling this collect much investor in buy omicron

Yup many people interest to buy omicron, because it has a potential that the price of this coin will rise, when this coin is in exchanger. Like me im interested but why do we need to get slacks invitation? Why other altcoin dont have this, in their site just create account and deposit thats it.

Yup you are right. Lately, omicron has a very good potential and also has a fairly strong market forces because many people assumed that omicron will be one of the altcoin that have the power of yan quite well in growth crpto
784  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WORST decision about BTC on: September 10, 2016, 02:12:44 PM
Actually my worst decision about Bitcoin was to sell too early. I started to mine Bitcoin back in 2011. When the price was around $30 I thought it was too overpriced and I sold most of my mined coins. If I would have held it two more years then I would have gotten the price which was worth more than 30th times higher.

It was an amazing experience and cannot be forgotten. But the step you are correct ", it's just that fate has not siding with you so that you don't get to enjoy it now. so, continue to strive to realize the dream and our ideals, because only hard work and perseverance with a prayer that can give strength and also the success of the
785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another way to invest Bitcoin without Mining on: September 10, 2016, 02:02:24 PM
Nowadays to earn with bitcoin there is only one way and that is to hold your bitcoins in your wallet as we are seeing that the price of bitcoin is increasing faster so with that we will get a good profit, and after that I will suggest you to invest in trade with altcoins .

Why someone should trade them after holding but not before holding? It would rather be better if someone do trading before to gain some extra bitcoins from what they have and then keep holding the profits so that they can earn more later on if the price grows higher.

That's exactly what people prefer to do to take the number of bitcoins to a higher level, as only holding will never increase the number count of your coins in future.

Indeed everyone wants bitcoin became better and give an advantage to us. But it is not good when we don't have enough good roles in the growth of the bitcoin. Investment is very profitable, but it is now dominated by investment scammers who use the system, so ponzi and hyip things best done is save
786  Other / Off-topic / Re: Have you ever lost Bitcoin? on: September 10, 2016, 01:56:24 PM
Have you ever lost Bitcoin?

If that happened, why?   Was it your own fault,  or were you scammed?
While the gods were saving me from such losses. Earn given me very hard, so for me to lose it is to lose faith in this work.

Wow, really good friends. If it really happened then will make you become one of the rich list due to using bitcoin. Stay focused on your goal and never greedy against things that we haven't had. Because it will give you the effect that is not good for our life and our growth is also becoming a better person
787  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: September 10, 2016, 01:51:06 PM
Of course I like bitcoin because bitcoin is money and profit...so there is no reason to hate bitcoin Grin Grin
but not everyone can benefit from bitcoin. for some people maybe bitcoin could make them lose their money.
it can result in a person who can change the assumptions about bitcoin.

True,  people would do hate  bitcoin if they lossed  their money especially on  its moving price when they try to invest and saving  up but  if you are a wise person you would surely wit  that the price would be profitable for you. If someone losses money then its possible  on scam sites for sure, but they dont have the right  to hate bitcoin because its their own fault.

You cannot hate bitcoins only because you loose money with it, as it was your decision that made you loose your money, if you would be patient then results would be different.
I agree with your words, and add one more that if you already have such a negative impression of a bitcoin, then why bother to engage or deal with cryptocurrency. If you have the patience and the results will be.

It could possibly be a reason that makes sense, since I've seen someone get a very large losses in the bitcoin. Perhaps that is one of the things that make the most of them (loss) will hate bitcoin and revenge by giving the news that is not necessarily true
788  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: September 10, 2016, 01:38:08 PM
Besides the free ways, where you will spend just your time, there isnt a safe way to grow your bitcoins, because all investments has their risks, being low or high, as the rewards might be. If someone knows a safe way(if exists) i doubt those person would share it.

I agree with you that there is no such investments that are going to safely grow your bitcoins. Even holding, there is a risk if you are going to hold your bitcoins. Because we know that the price of bitcoin is very unstable at all and any time it can pump or even lose. SO if you want to grow your bitcoins, then it is better to take the risk.

how can you say that there is no such investment? investment always carry a Risk. if you cant get yourself to take a risk then i am afraid only Fungus can grow on your bitcoins. lol. research the project you are investing in, ask questions and get the answers, be sure of the risks involved and then make your decision.

Only the people who can take the pressure of those risks should invest their money somewhere because as the guy mentioned above no investment is riskless, you can lose you money any time in a investment so if depends on you if you can take the risk or not.

It depends on the investments that they do. If indeed they are investing the wrong way then surely they will get a loss. Everything has risk, not just investment, trading, save money, and also to lent also has risks. So think to minimize risks instead of having to think of a good thing, because all the things that exist in the world has risks
789  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Grow my Bitcoins. on: September 10, 2016, 01:23:34 PM
Its easy to grow a bitcoin if you know how to trade. because trading is the best place to start making a good profit even you have small amount you can grow it gradually until you can make a high profit.
For now if you starting better  try for small amount while you are trading do some bounties in altcoin section that you can hold and use it in trading to increase the amount so that if you gradually increase the amount of your capital you can start to earn high amount for every spikes.

Trading isnt soo easy as looks like, you must know when to join the pump and when to left, always a risk inside such, for sure try the big coins being traded on the 24 hours its the best for such attempt. There are others ways less risked, as captcha, faucets and signatures.

Yeah, that's it's true and that is a risk we have to solve in order to minimize the risks and also raising profits. Trade rather than just buying and selling but trade need a knowledge of the market and market potential motion. So, you better learn to those who've experienced than you need to rekindle the a lot of money to be proficient
790  Other / Off-topic / Re: When is it useful to borrow bitcoin? on: September 10, 2016, 01:18:26 PM
It is never useful to borrow money or bitcoins as you have to give back more

There are very specific circumstances in which borrowing is useful and that is if you want to engage in a productive activity but you don’t have the cash in hand, in this day and age people borrow money just for the Lulz, but in the past this was the only valid reason to borrow.



Well you are right with it, it is going to be useful to borrow if you are going to use it for your profitable activity. And you just need to make sure that you are going to make it real and get good some profits out of it. Because if you are not going to get good profit out of it then you are just going to work to pay your borrowed bitcoin with interest.
At bitcoin lending i doubt the profitable activity is a need, we do lend our bitcoins to get some interest, something i consider less risked then invest into some altcoin, has i made in the past and lost several coins. Soo lending is something that may bring you profit, as long you work with colateral, otherwise you may be donating bitcoins instead lending.

But the title itself says if you are going to be borrower not a lender, we all know that lending is a good source of income if you are going to enter that industry and just to make assurance that your borrower is going to pay we need to have something in return by means of collateral. But having a collateral is not literally means that you have assurance that you are going to earn because sometimes it is hard to sell that and it takes time.

So thats why you make sure that the collateral you collected is more valuable or most buyable ones so if the barrower defaults his loan well you can sell the collateral immediately with a huge income will coming unto you, and i think all lenders think that to surely have an strategy for thereselves so they will not be fooled by those scammers or loan defaulter and to have an assurance to earn with this scheme.

That is certainly true, all those who lend money will certainly be more careful in giving loans to those who are not yet known. But if they have a warranty or something to convince the borrower then they will certainly be happy to provide such loans. Because sometimes there are just scammers looking for opportunity
791  Other / Off-topic / Re: I will invest! on: September 10, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
Do not get blinded by the big  numbers you see in hyip sites,  they are not true. In some situations they may be true,  but they probably will scam you after some time.

In no situations are they true.  They will always steal your money and the only reason that they are still around is because people try to get in earlier than everyone else.  If people would just stop sending money to them and not be greedy, they would go away.

Thats the big problem we are greedy, we join a hyip expecting to double or grow our bitcoins, i saw already some hyip lasting less then a week, and early adopters just get burned around 50-70% as some of them just reinvested their earnings into it. As long there are greedy people this scams will always open and close stealing several coins in the process. If there were a legal way to earn such rates we would have banks giving those options.

Greed is indeed the beginning of us getting a big loss. For all the greed that we do, will definitely make us can not think properly, so that every activity we do not have good control. You never tempted by profit investment which does not make sense, better trade than join into investments that use hyip system or ponzi
792  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Give me advice pls! (Online shop) on: September 10, 2016, 01:09:41 PM
If you're just making an online shop in your city or town, I think it's better if you do a survey first. Know first the people most needed thing or stuff because it's to risky if you'll just sell whatever you want. Then if you already did that, I think it's better if you ask help to your friends and tell them to help you to advertise your online shop through social medias like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and so on. You can also use printed advertisements and post it around your city or town. Having many people involves helping you is more better than doing this all by yourself.

The online store is very beneficial for those who know how to play. I never thought that online stores have it as complex as this, the most powerful Advertising is advertising from our online store customers. So, make service and something that can make your customers doing repeat order always
793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What you like when gambling alone/ with your friend? on: September 07, 2016, 02:34:27 PM
I prefer to gamble alone because certainly nothing disturbing. Besides if I gamble myself I could play as I like. I just play casino in the room or sports betting. And I have never gamble with my friend.
Playing alone in gambling is actually safe. If we play with friends means, they may disturb our bets, and we have a lot of chance to lose our money. So I will also prefer alone gambling. Sometimes I do gambling with my friends it's very rarely, but I will spend less amount to gamble. It will give more fun. 
yeah, more fun to play alone


Yup, I also prefer to do gambling in a way that's fun and definitely his own. Because when we surely will cause or benefit which is much more fun than playing with a lot of people. When our own are more focused on what we're working on and definitely the results obtained are also better than we played with friends
794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: International Games Prediction Thread on: September 07, 2016, 02:20:53 PM
Sweden vs Netherlands both teams to score yes is more good that's why I picked this @1.90 odd. Sweden at home can surprise Netherlands but there are some risks being on either side. Cyprus vs Belgium money line I am not taking because of low odds so both teams to score yes as well @2.38 Cyprus can score a goal taking advantage of home ground.
i doubt sweden can play good nad surprising vs netherlands , the statistics shows in last 10 matches sweden can only won twice lost twice and the rest 6 matches ended draw , this time i believe sweden will not gets first 3 points from netherlands.

so i prefer to choose draw no bet for netherlands @1.66 seems good .
i don't know what happened to netherlands international squad lately they play very poor.

last time they have a good performance are in 2014 FIFA world cup , i can not see the total football style of netherlands now , they just get a draw 1-1 to sweden , i was expect netherlands to win by choose draw no bet unfortunately my bet just refunded Sad.

Yeah, Netherlands is not scary like 3-4 years ago. Netherlands is sucks nowdays and not worth to bet, that's why i always bet under and opponent handicap on every Netherlands match.
they not yet have a replacement for great players like robin van persie & van nistelrooy in forward , wesley sneijder in the middle , frank rijkaard as defender and van der sar as goalkeeper.

people are really missed the old netherlands with those great players and wish it can be reborn soon.

Yeah, I also noticed that the Dutch game is now much less fun and I think also don't have a pretty good power in every game there is. All the things that only the players who are already very busy to problems of their own. from the start, financial, health problems and also the decrease in power. Hopefully there is a very good successor and can boa
795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: September 07, 2016, 01:58:54 PM
Can I say both it is because it is really helpful in terms of having extra money and income.  It also wrec because O spend too mich gime almost all of the time it bitcoin seaeching investing and posting that I got even noticed by my boss.
Yeah sometimes gambling really helps us especially when we dont have enough money in our pocket but still we try our luck and then win. Thats the enjoyable moment when you play gambling and you experience like that. But of course if you dont have enough self discipline you will actually lose all your money so it can wreck your life if you dont know how to handle it.

I would really disagree if gambling is also a source of income which is  somewhat impossible  but there are some people  who always say that and maybe they are lucky enough to sustain  on playing gambling since its high risk on losing your money.

I was also so, that gambling is not the place to look for revenue or as a place depend for our lives. Because gambling is a game where we can only benefit at any given moment, so when we hold on to gambling then our economy will be in shambles
796  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: September 07, 2016, 01:36:56 PM
It is really not easy especially if you tend to be addicted to gambling. If you really wanted to quit then i think you should go to some professionals so that you can find good advices on how to quit. One last thing also try to do it slowly Smiley
Agree, you have to seek professional advices to clear your mind in the situation you are in. its really not going to be easy but if you are determine to change you can do it for sure. i was in that situation before and luckily i overcome that dark side of my life.

Yeah it's a very good thing to do. However I noticed that all the things we do are not going to have a good effect in our families do not give help or support to what we do. Because the family is a very understand the habit, the State, and also of our preoccupations
797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: September 07, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
Addiction keeps many gamblers coming back, even if they lose big amounts of their hard earned money. They hope to get rich fast with gambling while its almost impossible
This is the exact reason, because we all think that ganbling can be profitable even when loose a lot and hence the next day or week we return to try our luck. While the reality is that gambling is not about luck but its actually about maths that means if you win 5 bets you are supposed to loose 5 too ( in case 50% )
it was same thing that make people doing mistakes in gambling.
feel very confident to gamble you will win because in the past you have won big.
people think they will repeat the past winning but they are wrong , they just repeat same mistake.

But actually in gambling, our litter mistake destroy us, and i am not agree that is only mistake, i think the right word is Luck if we have luck than sometime our mistake give us profit.   

The advantage is not something we can get in any game. It's a very worthy is a mistake we do gambling, because sometimes we think that we will always get an advantage in every game we do, so that it gives rise to something that can make us to be someone who is not rational in thinking about gambling
798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: September 07, 2016, 12:53:04 PM
Of course dice is very popular game among bitcoin community and it has very large community than any other game, dice is easiest way to get started with gambling easily because it deliver very fast result and I also think it is much fun because of social factor.
honestly i am the one who hate dice game , never play this anymore .

everybody knows how fast and easy gamble on dice game , you don't need any skills / knowledge to get started. just money and a fast internet connection , but people did not realize that dice are the only game who have bigger chance for you to lost than another games.

You are so right buddy. Dice Games are indeed one of the games that is very dangerous for us, for Dice Games rely solely on the speed of our brain or our skills in understanding a code or system they are running. Any days or hours they are always changing, so it is a very difficult challenge to be solved. But if we manage to solve the puzzle then surely we will get rich or get a big advantage
799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Looking for trusted gambling sites on: September 07, 2016, 12:48:08 PM
Almost all of the gambling sites that are being discussed here in the forum are trusted as once a website cheats it immediately receive a scam accusation here. I will suggest you as the most trusted directbet.eu although I don't like their odds at all but anyway they pay really well and instantly after the game finishes. In same league is also Nitrogensports.eu which pays really fast after you request your withdraw and offer even better odds for sport betting.

Trusted slots sites for me are, Satoshigames.io which you can find on my signature, crypto-games.net and a few others you can browse this forum to find out yourself.

Cloudbet and fortunejack slots too are trusted and easy to play.. the graphics is user friendly and i never encounter any issue within the game. But lately cloudbet withdrawal process is not instatnt and tooks 24hrs to confirm but they still paying.


It is indeed true, I have never heard of or experienced problems with Cloudbet and FortuneJack. they are sites that are good enough to do well as they are one of a very trusted site. But we also don't have to do the game in a way that carelessly, because it will impact badly on our lives
800  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: September 07, 2016, 12:43:43 PM
I also think it's impossible to win without losing in gambling even with strategy and skill based game, so nobody can say that he is very talented to win every time in gambling without losing a penny there, that is why I am pretty sure about this.
Yes really is impossible to always win in gambling. Someone long in gambling alone will not experience victory without a defeat because it was not possible. Defeat in gambling I think is very reasonable because gambling is a game that requires luck.

very precisely. Indeed basically everyone who does gambling not forever getting the victory, because this is a game and every game is sure to have a win and some lose, the game also has its own time in getting the victory and defeat as well, it depends on what we do now and also what we get in the game. All the things we have to do is control myself, because it is important
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