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7821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Africa Football Discussion Thread || Current discussion: Best African EPL player on: September 03, 2022, 12:37:17 AM
Nigeria vs South Korea FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup was played today. It was a keenly contested game. Both teams were solid. But in the end, the match ended 1 - 0 in favour of the falconets. Kudos to the team, especially to Sebastine, Onyenezide, Demehin and Idoko. They now have 6 points in their group and move onto the quarter finals. Thursday is the next match. It is not over until it is over. They shouldn't get carried away and draw back if their ultimate ambition is to win the cup.
Nigeria women are doing very  well this time in football, their games always end with a good result,  they are more active and consistent than even our super eagles,  congratulations to the women league.  Even if they didn't score much goals atleast they tried their best to win the game.

Well, there is something that should be highlighted in this type of competition is that women have a very particular style of playing, and it does not only happen with Nigerians, it also happens with players at a world level, as is the case in Germany and in South America. , there is always that superiority that a country is good for football, whether male or female, in this case the eagles have proven to be a very strong team and when making the analogy with men it is the same, but it will be that the luck of the girls need men? knowing that this is one of the things that every player misses the most? so that they lose respect for them?
7822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Group Stage Highlights on: September 02, 2022, 11:34:52 PM
Yes, I remember that part, what strikes me is that after that successful world, Russia is no longer in this World Cup, of course, like Italy, Sweden, they are countries that are really worth seeing, like their fans, I think that the countries that go for these teams will be seen differently, I am a little anxious to see this World Cup, the fact that it is until November is something new for me, but I do know that this Christmas will be much happier for having the World Cup at this time, it will be of another level and I want to see and I am curious to see some teams from countries that qualified in the playoffs, how will their behavior be when they have to play against the greats.

Russia would have qualified for the world cup, but based on the complaints by Poland and Ukraine, FIFA decided to suspend their participation. If Russia can be suspended for the war against Ukraine, then I don't know why the US was not banned after their invasions of Iraq, Syria and Libya. Anyway, Russia will be missed, along with the teams that failed to qualify such as Italy. In case of the latter, it was unexpected. I never imagined in my wildest dreams that they will lose to North Macedonia. Lesson learnt. Never ever underestimate Goran Pandev.

I watched Russia's matches because they played in the qualifying group with Croatia and they didn't impress me at all. They played a lot of games poorly and were lucky to get points.
Slovakia completely outplayed them in the match in Russia and completely undeservedly lost the key match for second place in the group and additional qualifications.
Russia quite luckily made it to the additional qualifications for the World Cup, but there they would have no chance of qualifying for the World Cup.
Macedonia's successes are no longer a surprise. Before Italy, they also beat Germany away from home. Only those who have not been following this national team lately can be surprised. This is a great team.
To be honest, Macedonia, the time I saw them play, I was surprised by everything they did, they took out one of the heavyweights, but they did not qualify anyway, I wonder if these teams that went to the playoffs will make a difference, I mean Portugal that has a lot to prove and especially to CR7 that has a great commitment, I have always liked Croatian football, the style they have is very particular, besides that they have that style with elegance, I really like it On the other hand, I think that Macedonia will go to the next World Cup, more quotas will be opened and I think that this can benefit them enormously if they maintain the level or raise it even more.
7823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Infographics] Does Football Betting Pay Off? on: September 02, 2022, 10:56:52 PM
I don't know if anyone above me has already mentioned this.
What about a guy, who made 100 losing bets of small amounts of money and only one extremely lucky bet that won 10x or more? Assuming that he made more money with that bet than the money he lost. Does this make him a successful gambler or a loser? Maybe he sees himself as a winner, while in reality he's a loser, who happened to be extremely lucky for once.
I also think that many sports bettors are exaggerating their success so this survey can't be accurate.
Why aren't other European countries included? Football betting is very popular in my country. The TV shows are full with football betting ads. Grin


In that case, if the gambler ended up with more money than what he initially started, then that's a successful gambler. It's just math.

Now, in the head of that person, it will probably feel like he lost, because our brains perceive losing more intensely than winning. So, let's say he won and lost, and eventually ended up with the same amount of money he entered, he would feel the losses more than the winnings, so it will be a negative feeling in the end.

This is called loss aversion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion
It is interesting, but I think that in these eventual cases several things can happen, the first is that when a bettor or player wins in one thing more than the previous ones, this gives him the opportunity to make very large bets from the beginning, because he thinks he knows a lot and that he is going to win, in fact he has a lot of confidence, second, if he does, the chances of winning for the player decrease, and third, I think that a person who does that and is lucky, as they have said before, should continue playing but with very minimal bets, because the idea is to add and add, to make the balance grow, even if very little.

I think the more you bet is the more you lose, so people who said they earn more than they lose and actually make money out of betting is the one who does betting as hobby, they bet like once in 2 or 3 months, and they are lucky to win those. While most people who bet weekly, or even put more than 1 bet each week, they will lose more than they make profit.

Other than that the chart only tell the amount of people that win money, it does not state that those people who win money win more than they lose.
Well this is something that we all know but that few talk about, it's like the commercial for cigarettes, if you start to watch the commercials for cigarettes they are beach, sun, beautiful women in bikinis and the last thing and in very small bold letters they say the warnings about what all cigarettes bring and the damage to health they do, some salesmen say them but quickly and ultimately, almost incomprehensible, that's what this is about, when a person loses more than he earns it's obvious that He almost won't say it, because it will feel a bit sad, although in my case it's not like that, whenever I lose I still say it because I consider that as a player one should face that in the best way.
7824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Macau's Casino Operation Continues Despite The Latest Outbreak on: September 02, 2022, 10:24:26 PM
Desperate but they don't have much choice but to close everything in their country to reduce and minimize the spread of Covid-19 even if that means that their economy and people living within doesn't have a job nor business to keep up with their needs because Macau is really dependent to their hotels and casinos as their country is really small compared to Hong Kong or Singapore.
Well, I think they have choices. To close the industry and forbid it from operating can't be the only alternative. Regulators can ask people to keep distance from each other, to avoid crowds and limit the number of people per building/room, fever tests can be done on the entrance of every commercial buildings, covid tests can be provided in abundance. Anyway, covid pandemic isn't the same anymore. I'm not a specialist, but for some reason that may vary from natural ones to vaccination process, people developed their immunological systems against the virus that has lost its potency considerably. Therefore I see no reason to impose another severe lockdown on citizens.
Things are going back to normal now and this issue is only relevant wayback when pandemic is really on top numbers but now it seems that we are almost completely back to normal.It would be
understandable that  Macau would really be continuing despite of the condition since they do know on where they do get most of their revenue or taxes which is through gambling but of course they would
need to follow health protocols for them to continue or wouldnt really be getting some issues or being sued out on worsening up the situation.They arent dumb not to know the
current condition around but if it turns out that they could handle the situation then they would still do things on controlled manner.
There is one thing that I am clear about and that I have learned thanks to the fact that on occasions I have had to experience things imposed by the government, banks or any other regulatory entity, which is already something that no one likes, unless you are working with them, and it consists of something simple, if an organization, government, bank or any entity tries to put its hands in your pocket, even if they manage to put it in your pocket, the people react and do not let it, they will do what they know so that this does not happen anymore, irreverence is sometimes the best of all exits, that's why I think the same thing is happening in this case, gambling is a big business and you can't let it get lost.
7825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion on: September 02, 2022, 09:20:06 PM
Well just doing some thoughts, if Indonesia has a very similar level to South Korea, then they are very close to going to a soccer world cup, it would also be something new and colorful, I would really like to see Indonesia in this type of competition, however, I think that now, as the quotas have been extended to go to the World Cup, that is where Indonesia should enter, and in any case they have to qualify, I am used to seeing the South Korean style of football and it is a football that has They have been on the rise, they have a lot of technique and I like the way they charge free throws, something like that should be done by Indonesians.


If Indonesia has a level like South Korea, then Asian football competitions are more interesting and more competitive, so the Asian football axis will not always be owned by Japan, South Korea, Arabia or Australia.
however, in fact, it will be very difficult for the south east asia squad to qualify for the world cup, something we have always hoped for.


and it looks like it will be difficult to realize in the near future, it may take a long time so that the level of Southeast Asian football has really developed rapidly. If you compare Southeast Asian and other Asian football, it is clear that the difference is clearly visible, and let alone for the World Cup level, for the 2023 Asian Cup level, Vietnam, Thailand or Indonesia, seems difficult to win the championship trophy.
Few of the countries in the Asian continent that have a relationship with the game of football come to a very good position when I am the Japan and Korea Republic of and Saudi Arabia. These three teams will perform best in the Asia Cup. Because we know that these three teams always participate in the World Cup and they perform well on the World Cup stage So I think these three teams are very strong in the Asia Cup
Well there is something that I really like about what they talk about, many of these Asian teams have begun to make themselves known by applying their good football, and as I said before, I am fascinated by the Japanese style of football, I appreciate that it is a very peculiar team, besides the Japanese in almost everything they stand out, and obviously this Asian Cup is exciting because I know that in this continent what they need most is a good title, they imagine that the Soccer World Cup manages to stay in the Asian continent' would be crazy, most people think that they are going to go to South America, or Europe, that is where the greatest hopes are.
7826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 on: September 02, 2022, 07:20:57 PM
Has anyone noticed on YouTube that Carlsen is advertising some kind of casino? I don't remember the name, but I do remember the slogan "Zero Risk Gambling" hahaha. Judging by his participation in poker competitions and this advertisement, it can be assumed that he is increasingly immersed in the world of gambling. Is this just making money interesting or is he seriously interested in this area? I hope this is a passing fad, I would like to see him in the next cycles of the Candidates Tournament.
I have not seen this but there could be some very deep reasons for this new interest in gambling, I have seen chess go from humans being better than computers, then being evenly matched to a complete dominance of computers over humans, poker due to its nature is still a game in which humans are better than computers and most likely this will remain the case until very smart AI is developed, maybe Carlsen is frustrated with the fact that even if he is the best human chess player he cannot beat his digital opponents, and he would like to try poker as it is a game in which he could reach the true top, but this is speculation on my part.
The truth is that this really catches my attention, the fact that Carlsen leans towards games of chance is a reason that he can combine his intelligence for chess and apply it to the game, I don't think it's bad, of course this is mere speculation, but at Seeing Carlsen's level I don't think he gets into areas where he can lose easily and more so if it's about money, could he have discovered certain patterns in gamling and want to try? It would be crazy if he could do such a thing, but it is never ruled out, in any case the master moves he makes in chess are unique and worth highlighting, and it is most likely that he will use all that for gamblig.

I'm curious to see the point where robots can create artist stuff with their bodies (think dance, juggling and performance arts/expression) in a way that is cooler than with humans
maybe one day we'll go watch a play with only robots on the casting
that's gonna be curious

That will be very interesting, but let's not be surprised the day these things are seen normally, now things in chess can happen in different ways, there is already artificial intelligence, I don't know if there is still the ajederez21.com page, something like that, there They calculated the rank of each one, but I have my doubts, I think there were already bots playing chess there, because there was a group of people who played like masters, there were some blitzes that I played, 3 minutes long and wow that was impressive.

Now I am looking for a good platform to find a way to play but other than playing with bots, I would like a good online tournament.
7827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Brasileirão 2022 - Brazilian Championship Serie A on: September 02, 2022, 04:53:10 PM
Today Palmeiras and Flamengo are ahead of any team in Brazil, and the difference is becoming bigger in a way that looks like Real Madrid and Barcelona in Spain
I'm talking about this year only ok

When you see a match it's clear that both have a strong main team, and strong spare players in any positions, and they brought even more players to make teams stronger

Palmeiras and Flamengo will win Brasileiro and Libertadores this year
Yes, currently they are "dominating everything", especially Palmeiras who are having an incredible season!

It's a possibility, Palmeiras can win Libertadores and Flamengo maybe the Brasileirão!
Let's see how these teams will perform during the year

Well, I think that many of us who follow Brazilian football agree that they could be some good victories for Palmeiras, and without a doubt it would be very nice if they could win the Libertadores, because for me the Libertadores is a very important title, in general Palmeiras has a good lineup in this championship, what I don't like is when they play against the European champions it seems that all the power goes away and they don't play as they should, this reminds me of Santos from Brazil when Neymar was there and they had to play against him Barcelona that Ney almost knelt down to Messi, that was when they took Ney to Barcelona.

I try to not think about the long term, I just put some bets to have fun, if you see my posts you'll find that I prefer to bet on my team Corinthians, because it's a special thing, watching your team winning and you earning some money too is almost addictive.

Here you are betting against the "rule" of sports bettors: you should never bet on the games of our favorite team.  Roll Eyes
Usually when you bet on the favorite team, you tend to always bet on a favorable result, you bet on emotion and not on reality.   Tongue
Of course, this varies from club to club, and from situation to situation.

But, the way bookmakers make good money is because they know that most punters, bet for emotion and not for reason.

I agree with you, although it is somewhat hard to go against our teams, which we always carry in our hearts, but reason must be stronger than emotions, I have a friend who did not pay attention to betting on his favorite team , and he bet the rival, and the worst happened to him, his team won, and he didn't know whether to celebrate or be sad, on the one hand his favorite team won and on the other hand he was sad because he lost his money, from From that experience he told me that he was always going to bet on his favorite team, that he didn't care if he lost, that that was a decision he was going to make and that he was going to apply it to every team from then on.
7828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: RUIZ VS ORTIZ SUN, SEP 04, 2022 10PM ET EASTERN TIME/ on: September 02, 2022, 02:53:46 PM

So whoever loss in this fight, he needs to make some big decisions in the future, whether to continue to work or just quit it completely.

For Ortiz maybe retirement is possible if he lose, but for Ruiz, I think he is still young and can still fight. Well, I'm not thinking he would retire though as I am confident he will win this fight and would probably have a big fight after this.

Well, those are major decisions, although I would choose to stay longer, the older the boxers are, the more experience they have, and there is something that many boxers do not see, and that is that the older boxers have almost everything calculated, because they know their bodies very well. and they are capable of doing anything to win a fight because they know every inch of what can happen technically, for me it is a great option if it is for the benefit of the sport and not for the business model that boxing represents, this is something that must be noted, that the boxer is always with the best of all dispositions and goes out to give a good show.

You guys expect this fight to end by knockout under 9.5 rounds because bookies think that also as what they put in the odds for that option.

Looking at the knockout rate of both fighters which for me are high, i also that either fighter would sleep in the canvass and i'm thinking that it would be Andy Ruiz. Twice Ortiz lost to Wilder and that was expected as Wilder was is far superior than Ortiz but against the smaller Ruiz, i guess the latter would struggle just like on his rematch with Joshua.

Still good odds mate for this fight, yeah, everyone is expecting that this fight will not last that long, or you are the just the one expecting a decision win here here by Luis Ortiz hehehe.

But yes, I'm on the bandwagon, if Ortiz is going to win, he should do it very fast and early and not allow the fight to go to distance because in his last couple of fights, he always gasses out and that's why he gets KO late like in the Wilder fight.

TBH, i have not watch a single fight involving Ortiz so thanks for this info mate, with this i'm now inclined to a win by Ruiz via knockout because judging from his Johua fight, he is aggressive and relentless so if Ortiz gasses out in the middle rounds then i think it would be over for him under the ninth round. Ruiz by KO @1.78 is not bad at all, much way better than the ML.

Wow this is something that can certainly happen, but to say that Ortiz will give a knockout is something quite strong, because if it happens as they say, Ortiz may go out with everything to give a knockout, but if he does not give it, all the wear and tear that implies Putting in to give a knockout is exhausting, if just resisting exhausts you, making the effort at the beginning is a good thing, but with results, otherwise you have to stick to what comes later, there are boxers who know how to fight sticking to what comes to them, and This may be a virtue of Ruiz, also if the ocsa happen like this, he has no other choice unless Ruiz goes with the same strategy and looks for a knockout, which would be very interesting.
7829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: September 02, 2022, 03:07:56 AM
The opening ceremony is probably going to be spectacular, the crowds are going to be there supporting their local team, but honestly, I don't think Qatar has any chances of winning against Ecuador.

In my mind the best result they can get would be a draw, probably 0 - 0.

Remember the match between Cameroon and Argentina in 1990 (and that was despite two of the Cameroon players getting red card in the second half)? Or the match between Senegal and France in 2002? Or do you remember Hristo Stoichkov's Bulgaria defeating Germany in 1994? Upsets always happen during the world cup. Ecuador is not among the top-10 teams and there is a chance that Qatar may manage to defeat them. But the chances are low. At least on paper, Qatar is much weaker than Ecuador.
Well for Andie it is a secret that the opening ceremony will be on another level, I look forward to having the privilege of seeing it, although it would be much more exciting to see it there in Qatar on the same stage, the same stadium, some who will have that joy they will enjoy it to the fullest, I also wanted to point out that the opening matches are the prelude to everything, people get excited and Qatar is a team that can win this World Cup and go far, Ecuador is not very good, sometimes when they say deflection They do it in a great way, I think this match will be good, although to be honest I would like a victory for Qatar.

For me, Spain scores high on several aspects. They have a number of very experienced players. They are not overdependent on individual players (such as Ronaldo for Portugal and Lukaku for Belgium). And their team bonding is very good (unlike the case with teams such as France). And since Spain is a Mediterranean country, I am sure that it will be easier for them to adjust to climate conditions in Qatar, when compared to the other European teams. Now the question comes to team balance. This is my concern. Forward is not as strong as midfield or defense.
Surely big plus point for few top European countries because they can't depend on one or two players they have enough power and skilled players those can do much better in this event because they have enough experience in clubs which are going to help them in this event as well.

As team event and have too many quality players are surely big advantage for many countries instead of few countries those depend on just one or two players just because of this we are sure teams like Spain, Germany, France and Brazil can do much better than expectations they are coming with their squads and have nothing with just one or two players.

Of all the countries that are for the World Cup, Spain had not sounded much to me either, we all talk about Brazil, Germany, but it is true, for now in all of Europe the champions are the Spanish through Real Madrid and that is one of things to take into account.

Of course, I liked Spain a lot when Xavi was there, Iker Casillas, among others who were from that time, for me now I don't know how good the boys are, I haven't seen Spain play much but they must be playing very well, it will be interesting to see this team play against all the others. Spain can very well reach the final, I think they have it all.
7830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 02, 2022, 02:23:59 AM
the first coach dismissal of the season is complete. arminia bielefeld sacked the coach Uli Forte. the relegated club started the season with four defeats in its first four matches. most recently, the east westphalians lost 0-2 at home against hamburger sv and find themselves in 17th place in the table...

I was still thinking about that yesterday when I wrote about Braunschweig and looked at the table beforehand. I though: It is about time for discussions about a change of coach at Braunschweig or Bielefeld. But I did not think that there would already be dismissals but that discussions would start first. But it certainly was not easy for Bielefeld to sack the new coach after a few weeks. That will also lead to discussions about the sports director.
To tell you the truth, I don't like it when people are fired, because it's their job, but in reality the work that Uli Forte did was not very outstanding, besides, he is in a very competitive sport and he cannot leave anything to the light, much less the ddetails because these details are the ones that have a great influence when it comes to having an apparent result and in football these things are noticed beforehand.

The defeat against Hamburguer SV could be seen coming, but that team has a great level of football, the bad thing is that it has dropped a lot in the table, and to get up from that position it is really very hard and I think there would have to be good luck to their side.

I thought we would see the Pauli team at the top of the points table this season. But this season their performance is weaker. They have won only 2 out of 6 matches and managed to get only 8 points. They are in the 11th position in the points table. Despite Pauli's decline, Paderborn and Darmstadt are playing well. I think both these teams will be able to qualify for the Bundesliga.

St pauli, the results that they have produced are not satisfactory at all
so far, they have played six matches
as a team, they aren't performing well, winning two games, they are expected to be at the top of the table but they are more towards the bottom right now
but obviously, there is a long way to go in this season and i think this will change, but they will have to improve a lot and play a lot better compared to what they did in the first few matches till now

Paderborn is still playing very well, they are able to hold on to the first position in the second Bundesliga, and i expect them to finish in the top two

Well, there is still a lot to play for this season, we are at a time when they cannot stay or be careless, we are aware that this team was one of the defenders of last season, it gave many of us a lot of pain because they have not been promoted to the Bundesliga, everything was very even, even teams that we did not think were going to go far managed to position themselves among the top positions, in fact I was one of the people who advised some casino and sports betting sites to put the 2nd Bundesliga as an option for bet, this for the amount of emotions that aroused, I am sure that this season will be the same or better.
7831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17 on: September 02, 2022, 01:54:30 AM

Middle East is more suitable because it is a neutral place to fight for the both boxers rather than fighting again in American soil where Bivol might face the same situation he had in their first encounter.

But a cruiserweight fight for Canelo might be too much for him as we already saw his performance in light-heavy, I mean what's more if he will fight in cruiserweight? He might be strong but his moves will be much calculated by his foes as he won't be that fast enough in cruiserweight. Anyway, let's see Canelo's decision after this trilogy.

Yes, after this trilogy, Canelo's camp may explore to which division he wanted to bring his greatness. He needs to take care

of this upcoming fight first, as he needs to re-claim his name after that defeat for Bivol. They might be taking that road once

the fight was already done. If he concludes this rivalry in winning this upcoming fight. There are many options as Canelo is still in his

prime, he can choose what direction for his career and for more flowing money inside his pocket.

I really don't know if it would be appropriate for Canelo to look for a fight against Bivol again, because in view of the time that has passed I don't think he will have much chance with it, I think it would be something different and he could have a possible behavior that would return to win Bivol, the Russian wherever he is, wherever he is, Bivol knows that he has to go with everything and he will not let any title be taken away, besides Canelo is a boxer who has a lot of talent and presence, beating him makes him rise Whatever state of mind, for me Canelo has to train with much more effort, have the same fear as when he was a rookie to be able to do much more than with what he has now.

1st and 2nd fights are really close and this 3rd one should now show us who's the real winner between these two.

First fight wasn't even close. Golovkin had a huge advantage and in most of the neutral scorecards, he won the fight. However the judges thought otherwise. And it was not just Adelaide Byrd (118-110 in favor of Canelo). Even the other two judges (Dave Moretti and Don Trella) also gave Canelo more rounds than what he won actually. Trella gave a score of 114-114, while Moretti scored the fight as 115-113 in favor of Golovkin. Most of the neutral observers had a score of 116-112 or 117-111 in favor of Golovkin.

I only hope that this fight does not go to the technical part, but that both boxers come out explosive, that nothing is saved, besides this fight has been sought and requested for a long time, many things were done so that this fight give, now with all these speculations I don't want the fans to be biased by a single boxer, for now the most important thing is to see every detail of the boxers, the interviews, everything possible, I have also seen that many are going to support GGG , and that seems good to me, before this fight these boxers had encounters that did not go very well for them, however, despite that, this fight will take place.
7832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: September 01, 2022, 11:31:12 PM
That is a big possibility for them to have a rematch clause and I guess it's good to include it. Right, the rematch could be very much different, purse split, revenue gates and others.

And it's just we are thinking what keep the fight? they have the date in November, and with this kind of  magnitude, they can get any venue they can get in the America. Last Vegas, Atlantic City anything that has a gambling and huge casino because come fight night there will be a lot of whales who is going to watch and obviously will gamble in any hotel casinos.

Agreed to this so that the rematch will not suffer any dispute on profit sharing if they will already set the distribution in advance just to secured the next fight for this undisputed fight. I’m sure there will be an issue on profit sharing especially for the winner of this fight since he will demand more since he prove himself. This might cause a lot of trouble to finalize if the winner will demand huge share that other party won’t accept. They should add the rematch clause on the current contract.

I'm sure they already see this possibility, so let's expect that once the contract is sign, they already have the necessary details agreed upon. If what is written in the contract is only a rematch clause, then a trilogy would be another story, and hopefully we will reach at that level in this rivalry.

Even a rematch clause will be another story as we don't know who will be on the A-side in their rematch, it could be Spence and it could be Crawford, we don't really know. One thing is for sure, there will be a rematch as long as the fight ends in a decision because if the fight ends in TKO or KO then I guess they will struggle to sell the rematch fight because it's already clear who's more dominant. But yes, I'd say that this will be much interesting if their rivalry will reach trilogy.

Well, speculating here, I think there is a possibility that one of the two boxers, whoever it is, if they get to fight and one loses by a K.O, the emotional blow will be exorbitant, and it is obvious that he will want a rematch yes or yes, and if it happens , the boxer will look for a K.O in any way, this will be a bit traumatic, I think that the best thing would be for the one who manages to win to do it as an effort of both and with very balanced forces between the two, that is, that there is the maximum effort between both boxers, I think that if the fight takes place like this, it would be a very nice scenario to ask for a rematch, because there would be much more speculation for that rematch.

It could have a rematch (even if there is no written clause in the initial contract), if the fight is going to be razor sharp close or maybe even in a draw.

But if it's a convincing win, then maybe not, but if there is a huge money involved then again, they could go and fight one more before going up in weight. So I guess the fans will also have a final say and maybe the promoters are going to take that lead from us if they see a demand for it.

That's true however both sides should secure a rematch clause to make sure that a rematch will happen soon if one will pursue it and so that no one will avoid. There will be demand for sure if the fight is close enough but a rematch won't be possible if one of them starts running after named as the undisputed boxer in welterweight division.

And it's possible to happen. We witness that with Mayweather after beating Pacquiao.

Didn't give Pacquiao a rematch to remain undisputed after winning all the belts. Not sure, but in my opinion this is also
been discussed and part of the negotiation.

If the losing side asks for a rematch or secures a rematch, it's a good rivalry to take place, a possible trilogy if in case
both of them win a fight right? looking forward to hear updates regarding to this upcoming fights.

Floyd Mayweather wasn't an undisputed champion in the welterweight division, he had all the belts except the IBF belt at that time because Kell Brook was the one holding it until he was defeated against Spence Jr. in 2016. But yes, Mayweather has many reasons at that time to make sure Manny Pacquiao won't have his chance for a rematch because Floyd knows that he won't be lucky anymore.

That's why having a rematch clause is really important especially for a big fight just like this one, an undisputed title is on the line together with the 4 belts. It will just end up like Mayweather-Pacquiao back in 2015.

Well, I don't know how many Mayweather fans are, but we all know what he did with Pacquiao, in boxing there should always be rematches, no matter how strong they are, they should exist, and I didn't like that time there was that fight where Mayweather seemed to be in A speed race in the ring, where you could only see a boxer and a rabbit running, where everything focused on the technical, where many were not left with a taste of the sport and above all very badly the judges, this is something that I did not like and I hope to never see a fight like this again, or by Pacquiao but by a boxer like Mayweather, and Mayweather fans excuse me, but it had to be said.
7833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 23 on: September 01, 2022, 10:59:59 PM
The odds speaks it all. This isn't really an exciting match. Although an upset is always a possibility in the sport of boxing, I cannot see how Conceicao would manage to defeat Shakur. Robson doesn't have the power to easily knockout Shakur. He doesn't have that strong haymaker that could suddenly turn the tide in his favor. Stevenson on the other hand is very much at his career's peak, very young and quick. And although he isn't a knockout artist either, he could easily outpoint Robson.

Well I don't know, I think Shakur is an excellent boxer, and Conceicao has done a good job, although the statistics do not favor him at all, the numbers can also have their own faults, but it fails in itself, but in what in this case nothing is written, there is the surprise factor, and if the odds and obviously the bets are going to focus on Shakur, I do not want to imagine the amount of money that anyone who bets on Conceicao will win a large amount of money and also the boxer He would be positioning himself as one of the best that have entered the ring, in the same way, this fight is still missing, any data is good as the date approaches to make the best decision.

^^ Everyone is after the money, no more legacy or pride or try to be called the best in boxing. And of course there are styles as well, styles that make people buy tickets and wanted to see the fighters live to see how good they are like Tank Davis. But then again, boxing politics will stand in our for us fans to see if this fight is going to be made or not. But it's better for Shakur to just take one step at at a time, beat Robson in a dominant fashion like he did against Oscar Valdez and as I have said, go and unify the belts, we've seen Josh Taylor did it this year and Canelo has done that in 168 lbs. He should chase history first, before pursuing money fights.


If he will win against Robson in their upcoming fight, then its not only history that he will chase but also lots of money will be in his possessions. However, it’s always good to see a good boxer taking one step at a time because that will also give him enough time to master his own boxing skills and enhance what needs to be more develop. As for Shakur, it won’t be hard for him as he has already titles that prove his worth in the ring.

I really believe that Shakur will really win in this upcoming fight, I know that there's also other factors that could potentially get Shakur defeated but those chances are much slimmer. Though this is just a title defense fight, this fight is also an important step for his career as he will gain more experience from Robson and this fight will open more doors for him. Maybe after this he can go and fight against Joe Cordina to add the IBF belt in his possession.

Chances are high for Shakur to win here, I have to look at who is the manager of Joe Cordina, if Top Rank can make a fight with him after this fight. As what we discussed on different boxing threads, sometimes it's the promotion as the hindrance for a huge mega fight. This promotions have ego like Arum having a hard time against PBC and vice versa. So it will be interested if the handler of Cordina is not on Arum's radar.

I don't know who is the manager of Joe Cordina but his promoter is Eddie Hearn, they are already eyeing for Shakur Stevenson next because the latter holds the WBC and WBO but the deal is still blurred because Bob Arum has also issues with the Matchroom boxing which is also under Eddie Hearn. I can remember that Bob Arum says that the Matchroom cannot produce many viewers that's why the fight won't be profitable.

There is a lot of speculation about Shakur, I really wouldn't know what to do with an eventual bet of this kind, when we go to see each other Conceicao is a very good boxer, and it's not for nothing, but I've liked the fights I've seen of him a lot, it is also hard and surely Conceicao will not want to surrender and fight with everything.

I am in telegram groups that are very active in boxing and have a lot of confidence in Shakur, so the odds will be very much in his favor, and this urges me to bet more on Conceicao because the profits that can be produced if the He wins sopn very big, of course I see this from the point of view of a bettor and at the same time as an athlete.
7834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas rematch - Oct.8 on: September 01, 2022, 10:26:18 PM
Jerwin is seems a good boxer in Philippines Boxing rematch . Jerwin plying seance 2014 it means 8 years including this year. Although the game has not yet started this year.  But the game is going to start after a couple  months.i think  Jerwin can show a better performance in this year also.

It will be a challenging match for Jerwin Ancajas but also another opportunity for him to prove himself in the ring and establish a good name in the boxing industry. I've watched some of his previous matches and I must say that he has huge potential but we can't deny the fact that Martinez is also a tough boxer.
Jerwin Ancajas is a good name in the Philippine Boxing industry . And I see their potential of winning this time. but Fernando Martinez also a good boxer . Winning with them will also be a tough task . but here also looks like Jerwin Ancajas will win

He was a champion, got dethrone when Martinez beat him, so he is not trying to reclaim his belt, this rematch is a must win for him, otherwise, he cannot be a champion anymore in the same division and he has to move up in weight.

It literally means the same because winning in this rematch means that Ancajas can have that belt again and he will be a champion as well, that's just a simple mistake that cost Ancajas his throne but I bet that this time will be a much different scenario because this time, Ancajas will come prepared as he will train for Martinez.  The latter might be difficult to overcome but I believe Ancajas can still do it.

I really wouldn't have much faith in Ancajas, although at one point he was very good, I think he has lowered his performance, and when I say performance I mean his physical condition, in his fights he manages to show a clear fatigue, but of course he is very remarkable, I know that everyone gets tired, but it is more noticeable to him, and on the other hand Martinez is in great shape, he is gaining much more fame and I think he has much more motivation than ever, I think these things help a lot and it is something to be taken into account.

Now I don't know, I think that the capacities that Ancajas can develop in the last few months that he has prepared should be taken into account, this can be very decisive.

If he wins, expect for more money making fight for him, he will hype his name and maybe trilogy or new challenger will come for him.

If Ancajas wins this fight, he might probably plan to have a unification bout against Kazuto Ioka.  That would be the possible best course for him since Ioka would be a good match for him.  I do not think a trilogy sounds better than the Ancajas-Ioka fight.  That is if he wins and decided to stay in his current division.

For now, he needs to win, and he needs to convince more fans that he deserves the title. If the trilogy will take place, it means that there
are more money to flow.

Yeah, Ancajas needs to win first and if ever he did, I think fighting Ioka would give more money than the trilogy.

Every boxer will always seek to win in any way, whether it is for the unification fight against Ioka for having more fame, but in case he loses, things cannot go the wrong way or give up, if things can be complicated, but a boxer if he fights and loses it is because maybe he failed in his strategy or he did not prepare enough, for me there is no other reason, in this case Jerwin will do whatever it takes to win, he needs to win and have more fame, he also knows that if you win your doors will open to more fights and therefore if you need money you will undoubtedly get it, this is one of the things that can be taken into account when making a good bet.
7835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 01, 2022, 09:14:03 PM
With the experience he have in the industry and the talent he possess, I can say that Donaire will be deadly in the lower division but the catch is that we must accept that he isn't the Filipino Flash that we used to know anymore as he's already aging but the power is still there, I don't doubt it. But yes, you are right these are just mere speculations and we should watch him first before saying that he should already retire.
If he still wants to get into fights and wants to dominate then he'll do the stepping down. But if not, he'll do whatever he takes before he retires.

Aging really matters in terms of an athletic career, especially in this type of sport that needs physical contact.

But, as of now, we don't hear a lot from him and we still need to wait for the announcement on what his next step.

It is very difficult to determine how Donaire's behavior will be for now, many are saying that he is already very old and that he cannot do things like before, that he is not at the level of a young boxer, but I think that this should not be trusted , I think it is time to also have to fear or be careful of all the experience he has, in my personal opinion, if I had to fight someone like that, I would be much more careful, because this type of boxer knows his abilities very well and They know when they can give everything, just as they know how to measure the capabilities of a boxer who is an opponent.

Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.

looking at the two fighters I strongly believe that anderson silva will be victorious in this fight, that's because anderson silva had some boxing matches against strong opponents and he had a good performance, not to mention that the guy is an experienced MMA fighter, of course in boxing he can still be an amateur, but the fact that he fought in mma gives him some advantage over being more aggressive, being a person with good reflexes and knowing several fights, on the other hand we have Jake Paul who, despite being a young with some fights and victories against fighters who are also strong he is still young and doesn't have the fighting experience that anderson silva has. That's why for me anderson silva wins this fight, Jake Paul will definitely come out of this fight sad

I think Jake Paul has experienced fighting people in MMA and this is not the first time he is fighting one.  According to the record, he had a match against a former MMA fighter and won a 1st round TKO, and a former UFC champion twice winning with a split decision.  But thinking that the two previous opponent styles are wrestling, Jake Paul might probably have trouble facing Silva since Silva's fighting style includes boxing.  But one thing is hindering Silva in this fight, and that is his age. Fighting at 47 would take a toll for sure.  If I disregard the age factor, I would agree with you.

Yes, and if I'm not mistaken, either of the brothers have boxing experience so they can really fight those UFC fighters and win. But as you have said, Silva is well rounded, including a stand up boxing style.

But the age though, maybe once Paul touches that chin of Silva, he will go down. He is not known to have a good chin, maybe he can protect it. However, one punch can change the complexion of the fight.

This is very true, for me Paul has a great punch, and although it seems somewhat crude to give him a good fist on the chin it is in the rules that can do it, I really believe that Silva has everything to win, without detracting from Paul , because Silve has more experience, he knows how to fight him and the best of all is that he can handle the times in his favor, that is something that only those with more experience have.

And I am much more inclined towards Silva since a fighter who has a style focused on boxing is much more efficient wherever you look at him, even in his training he is usually much stronger, a boxer will always excel in any martial art due to the fact of being a sport where all the time you are receiving blows to the face.
7836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: September 01, 2022, 08:40:44 PM

The chances of the top six winning the World Cup look like this:

Brazil        5.55
England    6.60
France      7.05
Argentina  8.10
Spain        9.10
Germany   11.10

If there was complete certainty that one of these teams would win gold, then one could bet on all of them and get a guaranteed profit of almost 21%. But I do not think that anyone can give such guarantees. Even if we imagine that all these teams have reached the 1/4 finals (and they can meet each other at earlier stages), it turns out that there will be 2 teams that, in order to become a champion, need to win only 3 games in underdog status. This is a fairly common situation in annihilation games.

Can you post the source of this list please?

In my opinion, England is not the second favorite to win

I would put:
1 - Brazil > France > Germany > Argentina > England > Spain
Only considering these six above, but I think I prefer to put Netherlands instead of Spain in sixth place

Obviously it's not 100% guaranteed to any os these 6 squads to win, but I don't see any other teams winning this cup, maybe Netherlands and Belgium. Portugal and Uruguai are strong but not at the point to win the cup.

Well, the truth is that it does not surprise me that Brazil is in the first places, now it surprises me that England has the second place, when we have all witnessed that England has been harshly criticized by almost everyone in the world of football, in their friendly matches , the matches were not the best, ´but I believe in something, that you cannot play a team for friendly matches, I think that it is only a guide of what a technical director is trying at a given moment, to see what cards You can use it to your advantage, this is something that not everyone understands and that's why I like the 2nd place selection to England.

England is currently in the process of renewing young players, and some of these young players occupy important positions in their respective clubs. interesting for us to watch the development of England in the world cup stage this time. although almost the entire England squad is filled with young players.
however, it is possible they are able to stop the big squads who are more superior in this world cup.
armed with the experience of several tournaments they have gone through despite failing, but I am sure the English players have had quite a good experience and made it their capital to compete in the race for the world cup trophy in Qatar.

This time, England is the squad that really caught our attention although we realized that England's potential to win the world title was very small.
After many years we are having some positive news about England in World Cup even they lost on many occasions when they were at their peak and have too many quality players which is wired for many even new generation is also having some wired feelings about England having world's best soccer system, but they have never been quality team, so hopefully we will have good results from these youngsters, and they try to change things for positive way and having better results than expectations.

Currently, most of English fans are sure this team is capable of reaching into last four with quality and skilled players even some doubts, but we have to wait for the start of event about this all that can change the history like their women's done few months back in Euro, or we are again going down and out without any serious progress.
Well, the England team has always been one of the toughest in the entire FIFA World Cup tournament, for now I think they have a good strategy, because in friendlies they haven't shown their full power, but I've always known that Kane is a very good player, and around him there are players who are very good and who can make a difference with respect to the other teams, they all favor Germany, Brazil, Argentina, even Portugal, but we must not forget what that the English are capable, another team that I have also seen that is quite famous and that the Netherlands can play a good role, for me they are the ones that most deserve a world cup.
7837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 01, 2022, 02:31:14 PM
Kylian Mbappe needs some sense into that skull of his, both of them should fix things up real quick as portraying such childish Acton the pitch is such embarrassing for me.
I agree with some of your opinions about Mbappe, he still has a childish and selfish attitude. Of course this was never good for him especially because he needed other people to support his career and success as a striker. He's still very young and I think he's still very unstable in terms of emotional control, so obviously that's going to have a huge impact on the team's performance which is actually very want of the players to play as a team. I think he has to change that attitude as soon as possible and the coach has to tell him well.

The Mbappé thing is something very childish, I think he is not doing things very well, it is speculated that he spoke with the PSG board so that they could remove Neymar Jr, however Ney found out and began to play like never before, even for above Messi, then if Mbappé believes that he is the only player who shines, well, I think that his reign is over, a Neymar totally connected with his game is capable of overcoming the crown that they give him at PSG, the Sheikh is in a position that I don't know that he can give priority, whether to the spoiled child or to those who are really sweating the shirt, I think a team should not revolve around a player, but the entire team.

It was one of the games that we see the trio showing an impressive performance. Messi made 2 assists and Mbappe-Neymar duo scored one goal each. I'm saying duo but they are not a very good duo normally of course.  Grin  It still seems like there are some issues between them but I hope it won't last too long. Mbappe is acting like he is the owner of the team and it is a result of his unbelievable contract I guess. But this can just hurt the team in the long term. There are even still rumours about Neymar to join Chelsea.
Their problems can arise at any time, we remember two weeks ago they were able to work well together. Then in the next match they don't seem to know each other. This happened again in this match, and in the next match something undesirable would happen again. Regarding Mbappe, I think everyone knows what he is like now.
PSG's front line Messi, Neymar and also Mbappe I don't think have the right chemistry, sometimes they can work well together to score goals but sometimes in other games they can't even score goals and play really bad.
With so many star players at PSG as it is today, it is very difficult to put them together because each player has their own ego.
now the opponents facing PSG are still not comparable to the quality of the players they have, we will see the real evidence when PSG play on the European stage and face a team that has player quality comparable to them.

Even though they have star players on the front line, that doesn't change the fact. There is no question Messi, Neymar and Mbappe can perform on the biggest stage, but the problem is they can't always work well together to score goals. This monster performs well in league 1, but they fails badly when it comes to bigger stages. Anyway, I'm optimistic about Neymar, as long as he doesn't get injured, he'll have a great season. The European stage is the perfect place to retaliate.

Yes, you are right, in fact I think that Neymar will not be injured anymore, nor will he seek to do so, it is already dangerous for him to take a lot of risks for now, the World Cup is coming up and he wants to be the star of Brazil, besides this player also wants to do This is their last World Cup, that is, 3 of the greatest players in the world for me, which are CR7, Messi and Neymar, it will be their last World Cup, so they will try to reach the final, and they may play for 1 or 2 years. more in a club, but if one of these 3 is crowned, he will have the world at his feet and there will be nothing that can be attributed to him due to his high performance.
7838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 01, 2022, 03:20:22 AM
Leipzig can hopefully be more competitive in the Bundesliga as of transferring Timo Werner back to the team. Their first match with him was an unlucky one as they were shown a red card but they at least didn't lose. The opponent up next is Union Berlin. It's a tough opponent for Leipzig surely because their last matches between them weren't in favour of especially one side. Leipzig can't win away matches for two times but I think this can change this time. They can win this match even if they have difficulties.

Leizpig team looks really good this season and if they didnt lose their points against Stuttgart in first match they would be in good position to attack the title. Now with their bad start they need to make up those points really quick. Timo Werner was really good before in Leipzig and hopefully he will continue to play good in Leipzig

I think we have all witnessed the good performance that Leipzig has had, Stuttgart really was a team that caught a Leipzig somewhat off track in their concentration, but nothing to do now, if Leipzig continues to play the way they they are doing it, I think they will have a good place in the league, and be careful, even the first places can be fought for, this is obvious if they do everything possible to stay at the level of the best, not making the same mistakes they did against Stuttgart, which for me some were very childish.

Also this would be good if Leipzig doesn't come back to lose more and if the most favorites lose at least 1 or 2 games.

Leipzig can beat Dortmund and get the second position but to beat Bayern, they need more. They must have a kind of perfect performance during this season. That is very challenging because Bayern domination in Bundesliga is so huge and Leipzig will get troubles as they have to play in Champions League as well.
Currently Leipzig is in the number 9 position and seems to need a very hard effort to beat points from Bayern Munich because if you are dealing directly with Bayern Munich then it is impossible for Leipzig to get a win, only by beating other teams and getting lots of goals to beat points from Bayern Munich.

Well, Leipzig is a team that has a lot of potential and that can give pleasant surprises to its fans, however it is as you say, I think that they are not yet up to Bayern's level, but even so, they are very important because if they win the games that they have ahead of them, they can climb the steps in the table and enter among the best, for now they have to resist much more when it comes to Bayern, the players have to change the mental chip that Bayern is one of the strongest , so the best they can do is have a very high psychology and morale, that's what the Lepzig players can do, because I don't see any other way.
7839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: September 01, 2022, 02:49:11 AM
Yes, Atletico Madrid has great potential to interfere with Real Madrid's chances of defending the title.  My prediction this season is that the La Liga title race will be competitive again, even though many people still favor El Real.
It's still too early to say who can compete with Real Madrid in La Liga. Atlético start the last season also not bad, but then even Barcelona, which had a very difficult season, managed to get ahead them. So far, Real Madrid looks like the favorite for me, and in order not to get too far ahead, let's look at Saturday's match against Celta. I think that it will not be a problem for Real Madrid to beat them for odds 1.7, which is not bad at all.
La Liga is still controlled by three clubs that often take turns champion, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. Real Madrid are still the main favorites this season, but Ancelotti will need to rotate players in a few games to keep players fit because of the many games to be played this season. Hopefully the injury storm doesn't hit Real Madrid's players, because it will interfere with their performance a little if some of the main players get injured. Real Madrid also did not bring in many players in the transfer market, Ancelotti had to maintain the fitness of the players so that they had a chance to champion by keeping the main players from entering the treatment room.

For me, the effect of Atl'petico de Madrid will not have much effect on the league, there is one thing that I did not like about the cholo, turning his back on a player like CR7, where he would like to win a league with a game structure like the one he has, CR7 can make a difference at any time, it is not going to be that in the middle of the league they need a player like him, I think that at this point the players must be clear that they cannot fail, and they are not machines, for me this league will be dominated by Real Madrid and Barcelona without a doubt, Barcelona is another team that may be hanging by a thread if they don't get the results, this league will be interesting because if these teams that are believed to be valuable they can be left behind.

Sure, they will score more in La Liga, I am optimistic that the scorer this season should be Lewa or Benzema.

Alvaro Morata maybe a barrier for the two players to record La Liga's top scorer this season.. Since returning from Serie A his responsibility in completing attacks has increased much more than before, his speed of adaptation will also be a plus that makes Morata one of the candidates for La Liga's top goalscorer this season.
Morata's rivalry with Antoine Griezmann will continue, which of these two players will represent ATM to compete for La Liga's top scorer this season with Benzema and Lewandowski.
Lewandowski seems to appear more productive than his competitors. Lewandowski adapted to Barca's game quite quickly. he scored 4 goals in 3 games in La Liga, and of course, it was a good start.
he showed his class when he had to play at Barca even though the club was still in trouble. he proved he can stay competitive despite being in a tougher competition than the Bundesliga. I support Lewandowski to be the top scorer in La Liga.

Well, so far Lewa has been taking out casta, the one that had us accustomed to Muller, however, we are starting with everything, I hope and want Lewa to continue doing that great job and continue doing it more and more, I finally want to see a classic between Barcelona and Real Madrid like the ones from a few years ago, when I was playing, and Zidane in Madrid, and as I have said on several occasions, I am not a fan of Barcelona, but if they raise the level in that way that is very good because the level of football in general at least in the league will have a great increase, and when it comes to the toughest games in the UCL they will do a good job.
7840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 01, 2022, 02:21:25 AM
I heard the deal for Rabiot has been called off and Casemiro emerging as the preferred alternative which to me is very unlikely to happen. Casemiro seems happy at Real Madrid and is not looking to switch club now besides I don't see what Manchester United will bring to the table that will be enough to convince him to join them.
Manchester united seem to be offering a very enticing deal to him and since he has had a very good running in Real Madrid, he may consider looking for a fresh challenge most likely in the premier league. There is a lot of optimism surrounding this transfer and i think it may just happen. If he joins MUFC, we will definitely see a change for better in their midfield as he happens to be one of the most experienced Defensive midfielders in the world. The EPL is quite tough and I just injuries don't become a problem to his career in England.
The players Manchester United are going for are happy at their current clubs and satisfied with their team's performances and going after these players will cost United huge sums . There are younger players who are hungry for opportunities like this and if they are given such an opportunity they will give in their best and play for the badge they wear instead of chasing after big names and already made players.

It's not that Manchester is looking, but the players that only Ten Hag is looking for, and that's not a reason for them to keep going down, I don't know, but having a star in a team is like seeing it as the great salvation and boosting the team What player is going to want to go to Man United if a star player like CR7 treats him badly? they don't put him in to play, they put him in when it's almost impossible for them to come back, clearly Ten Hag can and has the ability to end the career of any footballer, in my case I would never go to Manchester if I have that coach, never, for my own good and for the love of professionalism and because I like football.


I am kinda torn about the whole situation with Cristiano Ronaldo and Manchester United. It is clear for several weeks now that CR7 desperately wants to leave the club because his main goal now seems to be to improve his record of most scored goals in the Champions League even further and for that he is willing to go to a club that would pay him way less salary than ManU is paying him it at the moment.
It seems like the problem is Manchester United because they will only let him go if they get a decent transfer fee for him and so far no one is willing to pay that. On one hand i feel kinda bad for CR7 because he desperately wants to improve his record on the other hand he signed a contract with ManU a year ago and contracts need to be respected from both sides.
Now everything is almost certain and there is no need to worry too much about this because for sure he will be at United again for this season.
Now the rumors are still there but they haven't led to anything more serious and are still running wild.
It will only be a waste of time to observe this player because in the end he will still be living with the time remaining for the closing of the player's transfer which is very close.

Well I have a somewhat biased opinion in favor of CR7, what happens is that CR7 is a player who has given us a lot in football, I'm not talking about which club or anything but the player as such, I've also seen some criticism about Messi, and I return to the same thing, I think that both have given us a lot and that is something that very few see, the fact of leaving these players without minutes and only on the whim of a technical director who has already spent his time as a player, I shouldn't bury their best performances, so the transfers and rejections of CR7 I hope they don't regret it, because in the event that Portugal wins the World Cup, those clubs that have told them no won't know how to fix things.

It is obvious, for now he will not move from United, but it is a fact, somehow he will leave, I think that nobody stays in a place where they are not wanted, simple logic.
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