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7821  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: December 26, 2016, 10:10:50 AM
yeah trading is very much profitable nowadays and a lot of people are earning bitcoin in huge amount through trading and people really like to online jobs and they are earning their profit through trading and other activity .
Trading is profitable but not for all of the traders, I believe with a huge number of traders only few of them are profitable, it is a risky venture that requires deep knowledge and proper time management to succeed and most of us cannot do that as we have different focus in life. I think we are too comfortable with having a job since it has no risk than risking our money to make money in trading.
7822  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: December 26, 2016, 09:58:29 AM
Selling everything is not good at all and I think it can really let you lose a lot of profit when you do this right now.
you are right that selling bitcoin is not good for right now because bitcoin price going to rise too much faster and maximum people holding their bitcoin for the future and i am sure they will be get a big profit from bitcoin in the next year when bitcoin more rise its price .
yeah you are right that selling bitcoin is not good for now because bitcoin increasing its price too much faster so its good hold your bitcoin and people getting profit in big amount through holding their bitcoin.
Sell a portion of your holding when you see you can make profit, we always seek for a better income but it is not good anymore if we are too greedy as we might end up losing everything we have. I know the price will increase but we cannot be sure if this will increase a bigger amount as we expected, we have to be realistic somehow and always take your ROI before experimenting to have more profit.
7823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how strong is bitcoin really? on: December 26, 2016, 09:51:53 AM
Bitcoin is unstoppable.
That's why til now its alive even though not everybody supports it.
The support that we are giving to bitcoin is already enough to survive in the long run but we are not satisfied with it, we want to see more supporters so we can push the value to increase, and when that happens we can also benefit as an investors.
7824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: December 26, 2016, 09:44:30 AM
No,I don't consider trading as gambling.Because trading depends on our skills,knowledge and experience.Trading can give us good amount of profit in short time.We can use our mind to predict the future price.But in gambling it just depends on our luck,no strategy or skills can be followed.Also in gambling our losing chances is high than trading.
There some points I do not agree with you. Actually, gambling does require strategy and skills like trading does. But they are not very useful for gamblers at all so most of them usually skip these part and jump into gamble without anything except their feelings. In general, It is not a good idea to pass these factor because they can help you to reduce the losing amount.
I do not think so because I have tried many strategies for my gambling still I was unable to reduce my losing amounts.

It is too true that gambling is beyond those skills and strategies and only luck is the needed thing. That is the reason I'm not considering gambling as trading as I'm able to make some profits in my trading.
The truth is that this will always be a risky game. I think there are certain techniques that can help reduce risks, and a broad knowledge of the game will help increase the chances, but luck is what will decide who loses or wins. This surely differentiates gambling from trading.
yes there is no doubt about this that both are risky but still i will say that both are not the same thing, as trading need a proper study and experience, while gambling is mostly depend on luck, if you are luck then you do not need any experience or study and can make good money.
Not all gambling games are need or depends in luck there is other game that need skills or both luck.. like sports betting in poker if you have experience and skilled in sportsbetting how to analyze it you can make  a good profit..
If we compare trading it can also need luck but less risk unlike in gambling if you lose you can not recover your loses unlike in trading that actually if the price of altcoin is decreases you can be still sell it and recover some loses.
You are right somehow, but what I like when relying on luck alone is you will not be stress as you gamble effortless and with that kind of action as well you are making yourselves to be not addicted with gambling since you will not be too affected due to less amount of time you spent.

Being serious in gambling will only make you hooked with it and the moment you are hooked, the real problem will start when you are out of control.
7825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: December 26, 2016, 09:34:01 AM
My fave right now is bitvest for dice.
Its really fast, 1% dice with up to 999x speed allowed.

Currently been chasing 99.995 for the 19800x multiplier ive hit it a few times now im chasing it with 1k bets.

Good luck to you for hitting your target. But I suggest don't chase anything in gambling because you may lose a lot of money in that process. Gambling should be for entertainment purpose and shouldn't use it to earn fast and easy money. I never put any target while gambling but always play with some fixed amount and if I lose then I will stop gambling for that day.
Your method sounds good for you but honestly, it would not help you in the long run, you can make autobets but it's the same as you outcome it will happen even if you are too lucky, you will still lose. Why not just bet for limited rolls, it's more justifiable when you are lucky and at the same time you will not be wasting time to stare your computer, just my opinion anyway.
7826  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: December 26, 2016, 08:00:47 AM
Yes, it's a good way to make money but there are better ways through trading but I'm assuming a lot of people don't want to spend the extra time learning all about trading so if that applies to you then you better buy bitcoins, hold on to it with the hope of its price rising and then selling back for more money.
yes i also like long term investment, but to me i think if you are going for long term investment you still need to keep eye on our investment regularly, as you should also study bitcoin from time to time and should keep information about bitcoin with you .
Trading is can be risky you can. You can lost or earn It's like gambling but if you hold the bitcoin it is consider a long term investment because the bitcoin is growing and growing, If everyone will know the bitcoin the bitcoin price will go up. so I think holding your bitcoin for a long time is the smartest and no risk of earning.
But the thing is no one knows what will happen in the future, therefore it's risky because we are only speculating on the possible price in the future and we put money hat we can afford to lose. I think we just have to be faithful with bitcoin and believe it will bring us profit in the near future, some people having a success with investing in bitcoin, so definitely we can also have that.
7827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 26, 2016, 07:42:14 AM
Warriors were leading by 14 with 7 mins to go and the odds on GSW were 1.01 but still cavs managed to win it. the odds on cavs were 15x at that time. I should have bent on cavs then. Would have made good money out of it. GSW somehow manage to flop in the final qtr and Kyrie again with the winning shot. Good game on the whole but it was Warriors game to lose as they lead pretty much the whole match.

yes, i agree with you, Warriors were leading hole game, but The King is King and no one can stop him, also old school is making his big roll, R. Jefferson find his game in last quarter and his Strong dunks was very impotent and at last, Kyrie has made his winning shot and everything was over for Warriors.

CLE are the best today...
They definitely figured out how to beat the warriors anyway, let's expect that when this two will face in the finals, it would be easy for the cavaliers to win in 6 or 5 games maybe, Durant is not a big factor IMO as his defense is not good enough with Lebron almost making all the possible shots.

You can't beat confidence and this underdog team will always bite like they did before.

Have you watched Klay Thompson's interview after the game? He said that game was just a gift to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

That's why I'm losing my salute to him now and without KD for sure they will not going to be even with that close fight to the Cavs.

Klay is such a boner, he doesn't accept defeat and not making himself a true athlete.


That will only make the cavaliers to be inspired more as the win that they have is not really impressive, let's not forget also that Lebron said in the past when they were beaten by the warriors in the NBA Finals that he is the greatest player in the world, he just insulted MJ that time.
7828  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: December 26, 2016, 07:25:08 AM
Bitcoin is becoming stronger every day. More and more people will know about it. And for those who use Bitcoin he has already become an international currency.
bitcoin users increases, more users will become increasingly powerful. I am very happy because bitcoin continues to spread all over the world and certainly bitcoin will become increasingly popular and it certainly will be increasingly used by many people in the world

That's a sure thing to for the next year to come. Because of bitcoins ability to keep on pumping many are getting attracted to it and able to adopt it immediately.

And as long as here we are who are supporting bitcoin and keep on using it the chances of making it as our global currency is very high.
With a very good price movement, we can attract many to adopt but assume that most of them are investors, what we need is also a spender and hopefully in the years to come, there will be more online businesses that will accept bitcoin so there will be a real increase of demand.
7829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: December 26, 2016, 07:11:10 AM
With our way to gamble for fun, it will certainly help us to enjoy and last in gambling. It's definitely a matured way of thinking towards gambling because we know for the fact that it's hard to win when we are too focus of the profit, and accepting the reality will help us not to be possible addicted.

Whats the point of gamble then if you think that the excitement of gamble is to have fun with it rather than winning in gambling? I seriously dont see any fun in it if I dont win anything however that kind of thing doesnt actually make me addicted to it and obviously Im having fun when I could win in the site
That's how gamblers think that that's what they want, winning will always make us enjoy in gambling but most of the time we loses. If we cannot enjoy and accept the reality that we will still lose despite of the effort we are making, then maybe it's good to quit and look for another activity to do.
7830  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: December 26, 2016, 07:05:44 AM
If u want to make profit through bitcoins keep it in a cold storage which is more beneficial .otherwise u can invest them in startups and other small enterprises and own 10 percent of the company which is very useful and profitable.
What you are talking is a way to safeguard our bitcoins, and true by holding it a longer time it can give us a big profit when the value of bitcoin will continue to grow. An investor must be optimistic enough to be able to hold longer and eventually to be able to make profit as what we are hoping to realize.
7831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 26, 2016, 06:44:50 AM
Worst mistake in gambling is gambling lool

No it isn't, we are the ones who are making gambling as a worst mistake but simply not being a responsible gambler. But because we think that gambling is going to be the source of income is that the worst thing that we are always thinking. And upon having a lot of lose then the blame will always goes to gambling but not to ourselves.
It won't work if you even consider gambling as not source of income.
Slowly but sure gambling drive you to something that actually you don't want, yeaaa an addiction.
Gambling is addictive, if you have no idea to handle gambling in right way it will always be a big mistake IMHO.

Gambling is a mistake and something that shouldnt be done in the first hand however some people actually win in gambling and make it as their source of income . It might seems fake however it is actually true and it only happens to few people and for some people it doesnt happen and it feels like gambling is already a mistake
No it's not, the only mistake is when we are not being responsible in gambling, when we put money that we cannot afford to lose anymore. I guess we have to be responsible enough to appreciate gambling, if we cannot do that then we are not allowed to gamble. It will not bring good results in our life, so we better not try it.
7832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 24, 2016, 08:30:32 AM
Many people who experience problems when gambling, this is because they can not control when gambling. When winning, they will wager all money owned but lost, so poor. We must can control and have smart calculation when gambling.
you are right. may be the source of problems in gambling is that they can not control themselves when gambling. Well, I also sometimes like it. many of the problems I had to face, such as running out of money, stress, and sometimes do not want to stop playing. maybe it's all because I was not able to control myself.

The problem that are coming out came from the gamblers and not gambling itself. Gambling is just an instrument to give us entertainment and some chance of winning.

But if those people who are gambling will mostly abuse it, then that's how the problem will come out.
Abusing in gambling is just like abusing ourselves, there are basic principles in gambling which are only bet what you can afford to lose and always be smart not to fall from your emotion in gambling. If you cannot follow that then gambling is just simply not for you, go look for other forms of entertainment or a money making activities.
7833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: December 24, 2016, 08:20:35 AM
You can't tell when your luck comes to you until you figure it out by your self by playing gambling all the time or every other day if you win straight without loosing big amount of money and winning big profits then you can tell that luck is on your side and all your prediction are accurate on what the graph show.

Are we obliged to trust luck.?? . For if I see, that gambling is not just in need of a luck or count on it. Since gambling is not just luck that give you an advantage, but also a strategy and self-control is something most major thing for us to do. Because it is luck that will not come to those who play in a very sloppy and stupid!!. So we want to make a profit then it should be able to have a strategy and also can control yourself
Where stupid if we will oblige ourselves to trust luck, how can we ever win with that kind of mentality, luck does help us in tough situation but we cannot expect to be lucky all the time. Thinking outside the box would help us grow in gambling and that does not involve thinking of our luck to lead us a long term win.
7834  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: December 24, 2016, 08:15:17 AM
Bitcoin is money and looking under this concept we must use it as fiat money. So even though there are not many places we can buy or sell goods or for many of us buy or selling services I try to use it. In this way there is not a constant amount in my wallet and now is only 0.0254 Btc.
I suggest you also save and not just spend your bitcoins, don't lose the opportunity mate, there's more room for bitcoin to grow in the future and if you start saving now, you might see the value of your money grow bigger than what you expected. So far, in my many years of investing, I have never been as profitable as this, the price just double this year and still rising.
7835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: December 24, 2016, 08:06:25 AM
And it is more fun because you just click again and again whether you lose or not as long as you have balance in your wallet. It is also fun to see on how much are the other dicers are winning. Another factor that dice makes me happy also is when I see some gamblers who are winning big amount and I hope that it will happen to me also.
Yeah even if you lost and your sad. When you see someone who is winning big. Theres something in your part that makes you happy and keeps you on believing that someday you will win like them.
There are different kinds of persons, some are very envious and bitter and if they see something good happening to you they will not be happy at all instead they will be mad because they were not the lucky ones to win big.
Well to look at it that way, i see you have a point. I guess it's just about people's preferences and what makes them happy. I agree with what you've said here that people are different and that if dice doesn't sound appealing to me and a bit boring, poker and baccarat may be the same for other people. It's just about knowing what you want and enjoying what your interests are
I believe we are unique individual and we have our own favorite games in gambling, dice is a very simple game to play and that's why even minors can play it for fun, in my case it's different because no one can stop me of liking all games, lol.

Personally, I like sports betting and that is because I am an athlete and I have a passion in sports, I believe that I will be rich in sports betting someday.
7836  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: December 24, 2016, 07:48:47 AM
i like the fast transaction of bitcoin and i can transfer my bitcoin to anywhere in the world and we know that bitcoin is in our control and we can keep our bitcoin in any wallet and in any amount and sometime i feel that my balance in my control into bitcoin.
to me as i am a good gambling, therefore to me i think the most good thing is that i can play gambling using bitcoin, as it as too much advantage of using bitcoin for gambling and especially in online gambling.
of course because of the nature of bitcoin that is anonymous, its can make you very free to do gambling, although in your country gambling was banned but you can do gambling using bitcoin with very easy and safe
What made a great contribution for bitcoin actually is the gambling industry, people are coming in to gamble and we know gamblers does not win all the time and even most of the time, it's the house ability to do it. Hence, it creates a big demand of bitcoin because gamblers does not really stop easily, the fact that we can transfer our money fast, it really gives us a chance to gamble anytime we want, and the more we gamble the more they are profitable.
7837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: December 23, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
I know it isn't an investment, but in the last few years some "high risk" investment funds have appeared, and in them you can either lose it all or earn a lot of money.

Isn't this basically the same as gambling? Wouldn't it be faster to just deposit the amount in a casino? At least you'd be able to spend your earnings much sooner Cheesy

Yes and no.Real investing is about  lowering the risk with diversifying the accets.

Never keep all your eggs in one backet.

Real gambling is about waiting for the right time to play your cards and playing all in... 
There's still no big difference with whatever method you are using, you can do all in or not, in the end you still rely on your luck, without luck you can never win despite of the hard work you will do. Considering it as an investment is a hard thing to do, but it's possible and doable if you have passion in gambling, with that you have to win most of the time so your winning rate will increase and you will be profitable.
7838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 23, 2016, 08:23:38 AM
Many people said the gambling is just a game and another people said it is Investment. How do you think?  Roll Eyes
i think gambling is just game , we need skill and trick to play
playing in gambling is bet your money , this is mean we can get more money from it or dissapear all money because it
Probably you will lose if you are not lucky but if you are then you win, it's that simple, no other factors to consider as in gambling, our chances are always lower than the house. Having said that, it is just right to only put what we can afford to lose, that is to minimize our loses and to ensure we will not financially be affected with our loses every time bad luck comes.
7839  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: December 21, 2016, 04:53:06 AM
The best way for a steady income, especially when it comes to Bitcoin, is to probably join a signature campaign and always cap out whatever the maximum number of posts a day/week/month is, that way you get a relatively simple and consistent income directly in Bitcoin. Now that doesn't fit your criteria of not doing anything, so that's out of the question.

One potential idea is investing in a casino bankroll and get paid that way. I haven't done it in the past but with enough research I think you'd probably have a good idea of how it would all work.
Gambling is too risky, although it returns high, but the risk is big. I personally do not recommend gambling, to participate in a signature campaign is a good choice.
That's a normal thing in gambling, the risk is high so as the rewards. Wen you decide to consider gambling as your way to steady income then you have to prepare for the possible negative outcome also, you must know all the possibilities so you will be able to analyze and justify your move, and just like a business, you must set a good amount of capital and an experimental period to determine if it's profitable for you or not.
7840  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: December 21, 2016, 04:08:00 AM
The idea of the bitcoin bank may not be very appealing for most people here because most people here are not idiots that don't know how to deal and hold their own bitcoin, but outside of internet forums most people are clueless and they will like the idea of other third party managing their money and not having to stress about losing your private keys because you forget the password or something like that, so yes i think there is still a strong niche for that bankster idea on bitcoin.

If we are to face the facts, you can't actually claim that all these millions of people who are using web wallets (for whatever reason) are idiots since a Bitcoin bank is essentially an advanced version of a web wallet. It would be basically along the same lines as claiming that the majority of people are idiots overall. But they can't be idiots by definition. In this way, I can't possibly see why the idea of Bitcoin bank may not be very appealing to bitcoiners at large. This idea may be even disgustful to you personally, but that doesn't mean that you can speak on behalf of all Bitcoin users...

In fact, the minority is always more vocal than the majority in any field

I do understand your point of view, but i doubt anyone here is really interested into a bank of bitcoins, besides the wallets that allow us to have plenty control of our coins, making us our own banks.
That's true, some web wallets are just like this, (like coinbase), as they required to send their users their personal information just what all banks is, instead bitcoin can do transaction without this personal information so whats the point why bitcoin bank can be created it simply destroy the anonymity of the coin. 
It defeats the purpose on why we are using bitcoin, why we love bitcoin is because of it's anonymity and once there's a bank, there would be a Know your Client policy that will be integrated in the system and I guess majority of us will not be happy with that and will end up not supporting a bitcoin bank.
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