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7861  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Long term investment vs. Swing trading vs. Daily trading on: March 18, 2020, 05:54:38 AM
I will choose long term investment and daily trading, although, for daily trading, I will take a look at the market first before I trade because the market can move without I realize, so I need to analyze deeper before the trade. If the market is not moving fast, I think swing trading will not work because we will feel difficult to buy and sell at the right time and the right price. We need to chase the price which is not recommended, especially if we cannot analyze the market moves.

All in all that will also depend on the coin at the market because we still need to check which coin that can be potential to moves so we can buy the coin before the coin increase later.
7862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reputation at stake will you stop gambling on: March 18, 2020, 04:04:46 AM
When you are into gambling you are already into the negative list of people in your society. As per the society you are a non performing and productive individual. So, why bother about your reputation?

You will remain bad influencer and therefore there is not need to think what they feel about you. I beleive in one thing I play using my own money and not theirs so who are they to lecture me?

Leave them all and enjoy your life as it goes.

I think we don't have to listen to them because they don't know us closely. But for people who know who we are, they will not give judge us with a bad reputation because they know that we are playing gambling for searching the fun thing, and we don't try to make money from gambling. Many people still judge someone from the outside and don't try to know that person closer.

When we don't give something bad to them, and we don't ask them to join with us, we can let them say anything about us, sooner or later, they will realize that what they say is not right. The important thing is we can take care of ourselves from something bad, and we can know that gambling is part of enjoying life.
7863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you stop gambling in a time of crisis? on: March 18, 2020, 03:08:51 AM
Wow, when I posted this thread, it was a small crisis, and than become a huge crisis, in entire world
Even Las Vegas is closing casinos and hotels: https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/487766-las-vegas-resorts-closing-doors-due-to-coronavirus-spread

Sports gamble is practically over, thereīs no sports being played and even Olympics could be affected

This crisis become a huge problem for all kind of companies, letīs hope this ends soon

No one is expecting to see that crisis become bigger, but that is already happening. And that makes all countries now become cautious with the virus. Yes, that is affecting the casino too. And we saw many of them are closing the places for temporary until the situations can stable again. The sports are canceled too due to the crisis because they don't want to see the player got infected too, and that makes the sports betting website or local sports betting close too.

I think it is not just happening with the gambling industry, but it also impacts other sectors, and we don't know how long this will over. We all hope that the crisis can be solved by getting the vaccine to be given to people who get infected so that they can get healthy again.
7864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Things you shouldn't do when gambling at casino this time... on: March 18, 2020, 01:58:27 AM
Eat or drink is okay to do when you are gambling at the casino because sometimes we will feel hungry or thirsty. The rest of that list is something that you shouldn't do. But right now, I don't think that people would go to the casino because we are still facing the Corona Virus. But perhaps, some people who still have an open casino playing gambling in that casino because they think they can prevent the virus. Many casinos now are shutting down their places because they want to avoid many people from playing together in one room, and they don't want to break the law in their country.

Always make sure your hand is clean, and not touch something strange with hand directly. Take a rest if you feel your body is tired, and never force yourself to do something because that can make you get ill.
7865  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 60% Wiped Out - Will Bitcoin Have a Hard Time Finding Investors After This? on: March 17, 2020, 11:23:06 AM
I guess bitcoin will not hard to find investors after this because many people are already buying bitcoin at $4,500-$4,900, so they only need to wait for a while to sell the bitcoin at a high price. And if the price can rise so high, that means their profit will become bigger, and they will have a chance to recover they're lost before. But if bitcoin price still not increase so high, and the price comes back to the lower price, perhaps, they will buy more and more bitcoin, or they can hold the bitcoin for more.
7866  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Itīs not about IF but WHEN - don't panic on: March 17, 2020, 07:25:44 AM
Bitcoin will survive in these situations, although many people say bitcoin will die soon. But we still have many people who still believe in bitcoin, and they still buy bitcoin every time bitcoin price is down. We need to stay calm to see the fluctuating of the bitcoin price so we can see the opportunity to purchase bitcoin at a lower price. If we follow people who panic when the market down, we will miss that chance, and we cannot make a profit when the price increase. But some people can use fluctuating of the bitcoin price by buying more bitcoin and sell some bitcoin when it increases so they can make a profit in any situation, but yes, they have good skills than the other people.
7867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and KYC on: March 17, 2020, 04:41:15 AM
I think it's because of the money inside the exchanges and gambling site. Perhaps, the exchanges save the customers money, and that money is not going anywhere, so they need to implement KYC/AML. People give the money to the exchanges in large amounts, so the exchanges feel it requires them to know who their customers. But for the gambling site, the money will be at the house or the players, so when the house gets the profit from the player, they will keep that profit from themselves. That will be the same if the player wins, they will keep the profit for them, and they will withdraw the money.
7868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas closes casinos and hotels in lieu of coronavirus on: March 17, 2020, 02:21:52 AM
Because of the virus, people will spend more time at home and so it seems to me that now the audience of various video services such as Netflix, the audience of online gambling sites, the audience of ordinary online games and of course porn sites will increase very much.
I'm pity, but now the business that was tied to the direct presence of a large number of people is not waiting for the best times.

You are right. At least, the presence of this virus will change people's views and perspectives on something. I think they will use online gambling sites for playing gambling, and I am sure that they will find so many recommended gambling sites. I think the offline business itself will transform into an online store because people now prefer to stay at their homes, which will give a new idea to provide a unique service for people, so they don't have to go out of their homes. Perhaps, that can attract people to use crypto too, as it will be difficult to use debit or credit cards to buy their daily needs, including to use crypto for playing gambling.
7869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is like day trading ? on: March 17, 2020, 01:13:01 AM
We know that day trading or short time trading is like playing with wild fire, not may can handle it. That's y most player's end up in loss and very few are successful day traders.
Is that hold true for gambling also?
  There are posts here that gambling is addiction and how to get rid of.
Are there gamblers here who are in profit overall?

The hold for the coin is not the same as gambling as long as you can hold the right coin, even if the price is down like bitcoin price that we already saw today. If you can feel okay for holding the coin and you can accept the price, then it is not the same as gambling.

The addiction is one thing that the gamblers should avoid, and one thing that they need to do has control for themselves, so they don't have to afraid of addicting.

If we talk about the profit from gambling, I am sure that some gamblers can take the profit, but unfortunately, we don't know who they are.
7870  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin reach $ 3884 again? on: March 16, 2020, 09:29:48 AM
It could be possible for bitcoin price to down again this time because the $5k is broken again, and the price now is at $4,800-$4,900. We don't know, and we can not predict if the price will not go down for more, but if the bitcoin price is down again, we need to be ready. Perhaps, we need to hold on tight from now on because bitcoin price is not stable, and it could go down anytime. If you want to buy more bitcoin, you need to wait for a while until the price can stay at a low price so you will have a chance to get bitcoin at that low price.
7871  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is everyone expecting continuous growth? on: March 16, 2020, 07:30:20 AM
~snip~
That is another aspect of it, many want the price to increase not only because they are greedy, many want to recover the money they lost during the bull market of 2017 and the drop that came later, however the markets have refused to go that high again and it is easy to understand why, the 20k barrier will need a huge amount of money to be broken as many of the people that bought at that price will sell thinking a crash is coming again and this will have the effect of making the price going down unless there is a huge level of interest coming from institutional investors and I do not see that happening until 2021 at the soonest.

I think now people still suffer, especially for people who still hold their bitcoin from that year. They cannot moves because all of their money is in bitcoin. But if they can cut loss some of bitcoin that they had, I think they can start to try to cover the loss although that will be too hard to do since bitcoin price now is down too deep. But I am sure that we will see bitcoin price start to increase to the higher rate again, so we need to prepare that time by buying more bitcoin or trying to sell and buy back Bitcoin at a lower price. We need to be careful in these situations because bitcoin still at the downtrend, so we need to analyze everything before we buy more bitcoin.
7872  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin price drop 40% we thing causes "Corona virus" and world economic problem on: March 16, 2020, 05:36:37 AM
Corona Virus makes all countries have emergencies, and the government doesn't let their people visit another place. The government suggests their people stay in their homes, and if they don't have an urgent thing that makes them got to go to other places, they better not leave their homes. That is for preventing the virus, and people need to care about their health.

And we knew that bitcoin has also get down deeper without we can expect, it could give the impact too with the crypto market because the other market like the stock market gets down too. But many people, including me, still believe that everything will be okay, and the vaccine for the virus will be found from someplace to help people.

The traders need to stay calm to see the market still unpredictable, and they need to manage their funds to prevent the loss. The market will be rise again, and the bitcoin price will increase and make the new highest price in the future. Meanwhile, we can buy more bitcoin in these situations so we can make sure that we will make a big profit when bitcoin price get ATH.
7873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why there are so many people who get addicted on gambling? on: March 16, 2020, 02:58:40 AM
I think we can be addicted not just to gambling but also in other things, but we don't realize that. We only say that people addicted to gambling because we see that person is playing gambling too much than the other people. They can be addicted to one thing if they like it, and they do it almost every day so they will feel something has lost if they don't play it in one day.

If you don't want to become addicted, you should have power for yourself to prevent the passion that will come to you to continue playing more rounds. Besides that, you should have a limit on the money itself because if you don't, you will not realize that you lose too much money.
7874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What To Do? (For People Who Mostly Gamble on NBA Games) on: March 16, 2020, 02:06:15 AM
Yeah, there are still some sports that still available for us to bet on but i wont really risk up to make bets into sports which i havent known.

It would be much better if i do refrain on betting to other sports rather than trying into something which isnt familiar yet chances of losing
bet would be high.

For us who aren't comfortable betting on other sports we don't know or familiar with, it's recommended to take a break.

But for a die-hard sports bettor, that can't even live without placing a bet on a single day, they will still bet on those games even they don't have an idea or knowledge about it.

But it's not a suicidal move as before betting, they will do some deep research first. Almost all sports today do have bet analyzers. That's where they will base their future bets.

But if they are still trying to bet on the sports, they don't know, and they will be hard to win even if they are trying to gather some information about the match. They will need time to make themselves familiar with the games, and for some gamblers, it will take some time to understand. Besides that, they need to search for good bettor analyzers so they can know which teams will have a chance to win.

Take a break will be a good choice for them and search the information about the other sports because at least they can save their money first before they use it to bet on that sports that they don't know.
7875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Simple explanation of the crash. on: March 15, 2020, 06:40:11 AM
We have our minds, and perhaps we will have different opinions regarding the crash. We don't have to change other people's opinions because they are free to tell what is inside in their minds. But yes, the crash happens from a few days ago, and this month, the bitcoin price is at a lower price than the last month. There are many reasons why the crash happens, but we don't know the real reason, and we are still guessing about what is happening with the market. But perhaps, the crash happens because many people panic because of the Corona Virus, so they need money to buy their daily needs without going to go to the store.
7876  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is better than Holding on: March 15, 2020, 05:43:04 AM
Every people start with zero knowledge. They don't have proper skills to trade, but they are still trying to learn more about trading. Some people say trading is hard, but that depends on how they can learn to trade themselves. You are not alone, and I am sure many of us are still learning, and they still got lost, I got lose too. But if we can learn how to analyze the market, I am sure we will get our time to make a profit.

Trading and holding have advantages and disadvantages. Whether we want to trade or hold, we need to have the skills or knowledge, so if we trade, we can make a profit, and if we're going to hold, we need to know which coin is good to hold. The important thing here is you should keep trying to learn about trading and hold because sometimes, hold the coin will be the best option that you can do while the market is not moving anywhere.
7877  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: BUY with leverage on: March 15, 2020, 04:52:16 AM
I would not suggest you use leverage trading if you don't know how to trade or you don't know the basics of trading because you will lose your money in a short time. Leveraged trading will need skills to analyze the price, especially analyzing where the trends will go, so if you don't know about that, I don't think you will make a profit.

Meanwhile, why you don't just buy bitcoin at usual trading in Kraken or Binance so you can make a profit like other traders, beware if you want to chase a big profit, but you don't have skills, then that will be your doom. No one knows what will happen in the next 6 months. Leverage trading is not as simple as that, and you should always check the price and the trend, analyze it, so you know when you should close your trade.

But if you buy bitcoin for 2 bitcoin, and hold it on another wallet, you will not have to worry about the price movements, and of course, you will not have to worry about your leverage trading too.
7878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What To Do? (For People Who Mostly Gamble on NBA Games) on: March 15, 2020, 04:02:54 AM
So what do you do nex?,  now that NBA has canceled some of the games this season? Will you just also  get a hold of being a gambler for the meantime? Or try another sports?

All the other outdoor sports are also off, only choice is to watch movies, but please no doomsday movies, or play online casino games if you are betting in a games, so you can release your urge to bet and also your excitement, I think this one will take long because it's worsening now, we all suffers from this and it's unfortunate.

Watch movies in our home can be the right choice but the most important is we can stay in our home with our family, and we can see that they are the most important in our life. Playing gambling on the gambling website will be another choice for you if you want to back to gambling, but always remember that when you play in your home, your chance to be addicted will be bigger because you will stay in your room without leaving your computer. You should still have control for yourself before you see you will become addicted to gambling.
7879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Right time for gambling addicts to come out of addiction? on: March 15, 2020, 02:01:40 AM
In addition to that, there's no right time when you need to stop your gambling addiction. It is your decision when will that happen. And if you think this situation will help you stop your gambling addiction, then you need to be firm with yourself that you are now stopping your habit even after this corona virus is over. Because if it is only because of this pandemic situation, then, your effort to forget gambling is useless.

You are right. We decide by ourselves when we need to stop. But I don't think that if we are addicted to gambling will think about that since we know that we can play gambling every time. But when we cannot playing gambling because of Corona Virus, I guess we are will finally think that it is the right time to stop for a while and save ourselves first before we are too late to realizes. We need to prioritize ourselves and our family from the virus, and we need to take care of them also.
7880  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Increasing Number, Who Own 1 bitcoin on: March 14, 2020, 05:55:17 AM
Interesting to revisit here after a crash

Some people are trying to achieve at least 1 whole BTC in this crash, and I'm included, I'll not reach 1 BTC very soon, but I'm trying and today was a great day to buy
The idea of having a entire BTC is awesome, let's see if the market goes down again, you'll se that this number of people will grow again

I think some people already have 1 bitcoin by buying bitcoin a few days ago, especially when bitcoin price finally getting drop significant. That makes the number of people who own 1 bitcoin will increase. And that will happen many times when bitcoin goes down again and again, and we will see more people will have the opportunity to get 1 bitcoin.

Even if people are not buying 1 bitcoin directly, they can still buy bitcoin from the small amount first, and they keep buying more satoshi when the price is down. Soon, we will see many people will have 1 bitcoin or more because they can be able to purchase bitcoin at a lower price that will always happen in the market.
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