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7921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 15, 2016, 11:01:09 PM
Perhaps one of the best solutions is to find another activity that is able to occupy your mind and at the same time is able to make you feel better, that way you will spend less or no time gambling.
Agree people are just lazy when it comes of acitivity try zumba if you want to fix your physical fitness and yoga to bring out your stress and to make able to make your self looked. mlre younger than your brother spend less also
I think depending on their purpose. if they aim to make money, then you should be able to make money from the real work, such as looking for a job with a high salary. but if for entertainment, you should find activities that are more fun than gambling.
The thing is there are activities that are more fun than gambling because people think that gambling is all in one, all in one in the since that they can enjoy gambling and making money at the same time, in some circumstances it is true but most of the time we failed to achieve that.
7922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: September 15, 2016, 10:57:44 PM
Trading should definitely be considered as gambling as the chances of predicting the outcome is low and this in turn is risky for the trader
You lose some You win some  Undecided
That's right, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, even the brightest people in trading also lose sometimes therefore it has a similarity in gambling.

I myself have been trading and the result is not that profitable as of the moment because I was tempted to buy a coins that I thought the price will continue to increase but unfortunately it does not favor me this time so i am taking the lose and work my way back to the profit side and hopefully I will be back on track soon.
7923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Omicron - Dividend-Issuing Cryptocurrency - 5% off IAO active on: September 15, 2016, 10:49:54 PM
this coin have greate idea to growing my money, i think i will join ico and burn some bits for growing it, any minimum amount to get diveiden per month ?
You are right that this coin is really great for us ,and i also want to invest my money in this currency and i am sure it will be go a successful currency and i hope it will be too profitable for us and its really very good opportunity for us.

I think you both are getting late, you should have to invest from today as there is only a shorter time remained in the ICO to finish, and the bonus currently is also better, after that if it added to exchange then the price will increase much higher as the supply of this coin is lesser.

no I am not late in this community, I already have invested some amount in the start and then i waited to check that how long will it go and now as it is proved that this project is going to be a successful project and will get more high value so i decided to invest my remaining money reserved for investment for this project.
Actually, there is no late investment as it is because this project is going to be successful in the future, when you invest early you only get a certain bonus and that is just a certain percentage and when it will be added in major exchanges and the demand is good then what I will be seeing is there will be an abrupt increase of price and even 100% is manageable.
7924  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: September 15, 2016, 03:54:34 AM
I would invest in altcoins trading, if you ask me. But for this you need to know the currencies in which you're planning to invest, following the development of these projects and following the news.
It is always good to participate during the ICO because you can get the cheapest price, and I am lucky I am on board with one of the best altcoins here and I am trusting my money with them because they have a great future plan which will benefits its investors.

Also, if you cannot participate during the ICO, there are other altcoins that has been existing for a long time already and stable like ETH and XMR.
7925  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: September 15, 2016, 03:47:09 AM
In my opinion it is worth, it is a revolutionary way to send and receive money, without intermediaries, in an efficient and reliable way, because it uses blockchain tech.
No doubt in will dominate the online world in the future, bitcoin is an amazing tool to use for online transaction as it is very fast and cheap compared to other payment processor so we are lucky we are on board very early and we are also given the opportunity to invest.
7926  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 15, 2016, 03:42:33 AM
Probably the best way in crypto, to have steady income, is by mining. But this will be worthwhile only if the cost of electricity in the place where you live is not very high.
That is true but you need to have an upgraded mining rig to be profitable, this days mining is only profitable for those big capitalists so if you do not have a big amount of money to start the business just do not try and shift to other ways in making money like trading.
7927  Economy / Economics / Re: Trade house for 1 bitcoin on: September 15, 2016, 03:37:29 AM
One bitcoin is not enough to buy house or to trade house

Depends on what kind of house are we talking here, it should be properly evaluated base on the location and the site of house and lot. Because when you trade a house it is understood that you also owned the land as the law says the land follows the accessories therefore you cannot sell the house when you do not owned the land.
7928  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: September 15, 2016, 03:30:05 AM
Hmmm really nice list you have added and appreciate your effort and thank you also for providing these informations.Well out of those i only tried moneypot investement which has given me good return so far.I think you can also add sites like btcpop where we can invest in loans.

Thanks. moneypot has been great for me to. I have bad experince with btcjam and bitbond, so i decided to stay away from p2p lending. To many people didnt pay back. But if you make good % then its great.
Good decision to leave lending, we are here in gambling now and what we do is to invest. I agree that it is profitable investing in a gambling site especially moneypot but you can always minimize the risk by spreading your investment as there are also a lot of reputable gambling sites here willing to accept investment.
7929  Economy / Economics / Re: Where did you first heard about Bitcoins? on: September 15, 2016, 03:24:28 AM
In my personal experience, I first heard of it 1 year ago in a online forum game, people sold gold for Bitcoins, around March, gave it no importance at first. Now im kinda utterly commited to it. Really an interest subject of study.
first time i comes to know about the bitcoin when i search a phrase of Google "how to earn real money speedly "
then in the result i found the option to earn money through bitcoin but i felt that it is useless . but when i searched at facebook then many peoples of my country were found . then i started to know about bitcoin .
What you read mostly in the internet are just promotional about the HYIP using bitcoin as a means to invest, the same with facebook, but if you will be able to dig deeper, you will know the real value of bitcoins and there are no HYIP when it comes to making a great investment, it should be a long term one.
7930  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 15, 2016, 03:13:32 AM
I will quit my day job and work for bitcoin if only I can earn triple or quadruple the amount of my current salary .
That is a good condition but you cannot earn that amount if you will not focus your time in the bitcoin world, if you have a job on in a company, for sure you will prioritize your job than your business here, it is all about the taking risk and if you can calculate it right maybe you have a chance. In addition, time management is very important.
7931  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: September 15, 2016, 03:09:46 AM
Not just yet. Wait for the price of bitcoin to rise even further than what it is currently.
It rose $15 in the last 24 hours so I expect it too be $720 again in the next month or so.
We will just have to cross our finger and wait and see what happens. Smiley
Maybe wait until the end of the year so you can see the best price with $720 you will only be making a small amount of profit and I know there are still potential to see that bitcoins will grow, I am hoping to see a good price before the end of the year like a price $1,000, for sure we can make a great profit when we sell on that price.
7932  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: September 15, 2016, 03:05:32 AM
One of the best options, in my opinion, is trading in the cryptocurrency market. However, an initial investment is necessary for you to get returns, in addition there is a considerable risk, since prices vary constantly.
That's true, you need to raise a good amount of capital to start trading if you do not wanna waste your time, there are a lot of coins that can be traded in different trading site here so you can easily find the best trading site for you, and my suggestion is trade on the best trading site with great volume like polo.
7933  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: September 15, 2016, 02:34:10 AM
   I have seen some very nice arguments in this thread. Most interesting thing for me is that banks cant steal money from us, I remined how much I give to my bank each month for credit cards, for my account, for transactions. They are taking from me more then 10 euros each month, and that is a lot for my salary, more then 5 %.
   I would like to be my own bank, and I to have my money for me and not to give them money every month. That wouldn`t be such big deal, but they are so unkind when ever I go there. They are acting like I`m idiot and they sit there in nice suits, and womans are dressed very nice, with big nails haircuts. Well I`m getting sick in my stomach when I think about that.
Banks can't steal money from us? Ok, but if it gonna be bitcoin bank it will be totally the same system. And it is also possible to steal all of your bitcoins, cause of wallets and exchangers can't guarantee you total security.
Banks does steal money from us. How? Well they use money that we deposited from them and use it to loan it to other people with high interest, after that they will give us little interest per yer, in which inflation will take place that will lower the buying power of our money saved, Lets not be outsmarted by greedy banks lets  find other ways to save money.

Inflation doesn't happen because banks lend out money, but to say that they steal our money because they pay less interest than they get themselves through lending this money out is laughable at least. It is their business, and if you don't like it, no one urges you to deposit your precious bucks in a bank in the first place. Entrepreneurs that take loans from a bank to start or run a business should earn even a higher interest off their enterprise, but this doesn't mean that they are stealing from you implicitly or from the bank directly.
Inflation will only happen to us because when putting our money in bank and if we think we will have a good income of the interest given that is not correct, the longer we put our money there the more the value depreciates, therefore putting your money in banks should not be considered as investment but just a mere savings.
7934  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: September 15, 2016, 02:20:07 AM
It will certainly be a long process, but major steps have been taken until this moment. Many people are already aware of the potential of bitcoin, and the possibilities that it can bring to make the economy even better.
A long and a continuous process, more people are interested in bitcoin not primarily of the concept and system but because they are attracted with the price of bitcoin now and amazed how the price have grown that much when it is not a physical investment that cannot be appraised of its value.
7935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Omicron - Dividend-Issuing Currency - 42 BTC raised, 20 hrs left for 5% discount on: September 15, 2016, 02:02:38 AM
the next plan
where added omicron in exchanger
i hope the first plan added to choose one exchanger , poloniex, bitrex or c-cex
I will vote for poloniex. But as of now I am not worrying about where Omicron will be listed rather I am collecting all possible funds to buy more Omicron before ICO ends. Without having a big slash of them, worrying where and when it will be listed is not that much meaningful in my opinion.

is that announcement from the developers? if yes then I will have to join poloniex for the trade of omicron, I expected it to be added in yobit, but now I think there is no any chance for it to be added in yobit.

he confirmed that he will pay the fee to list it on bittrex, but you cant make sure that something will be listed on poloniex
Why it can't be listed on poloniex? May be he want to do it step by step after, bittrex first then poloniex . Some coin price has grown until 2500 % after listed in popular exchanger during three month. Depend on developer promo and the market news.
You are right they should have to place their coin on a number of exchanges from now with that they will get more awareness in the people and the traders will start trade in this coin, and if the developers remain more active for their coins and they promote it for longer time then there is no doubt that this coin will be the point of interest for the investors and traders.
This will be big if it will be listed in both poloniex and bittrex as well, I hope to see listed in poloniex and it's good if that will happen. Remember waves when people are expecting to be listed in Poloniex to get a good volume but now still in Bittrex. Who know's let us just hope for the best.
7936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: September 14, 2016, 06:37:57 AM
iam choose golden state warior can champhion NBA season 2016/2017
stpen curry is till good performance, and i hear kevin durant from oklahoma city thunde
can join to golden state warior , so warior can much big star and fantastic team

second place iam choose cleveland cavalier

I think you are just a passerby here in this thread based on your post.

Anyways it's really GSW who was on the top list that will take the next season's title but there are many events in the passed wherein first form super teams fail to get the ring.

Good example is the first form of big 3 in Miami Heat and big 4 in Los Angeles Lakers.

los angles laker collect big star and collect much ring champion, you can see fantastic play LA laker 10 year latter is duo kobe brayant and shaquile oniel , or miami heat several year latter dwayne wade and lebron james collect ring champion

after not star player you can see miami heat and los angles laker is bad performance

Well Im just pointing that even a team is favored in to get the NBA title , it will happened always.

Back when the Lakers formed their big 4 with aging players but still has caliber to deliver good performance, they was beaten by Pistons.

Also the debut of Miami Heat's big 3 also favored to be the NBA champion that season but most fans surprised that a silent Dallas Mavericks knocked them out.
That simply the purpose of the line is to deceive the public, for sure people are now already pounding the warriors to win the NBA Championship because of the acquisition of Durant, I would not follow them of course because sports books know what they are doing, this season champion would be cavaliers again.
I would still for the warriors this time, revenge is the sweetest and Durant is more motivated to win for the championship as it is his first time ever. They are are very strong team right now and I think the odds you are talking about is gift for the public not a trap.
7937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this what we called "addictive to gamble"? on: September 14, 2016, 06:30:08 AM
yes i think its called addicted if we are getting lose but we back again next day
we think our money will back to us to play gambling again Lol
It is depend also, if that person is always coming back just to get back what they lose and they are always thinking about that game. Then that person if already addicted, but if that person is come back just for once and then stop for now then I think he can control himself.
and he also know that he is continuously loosing money and still he is helpless to stop gambling then this person is really addicted, and at that stage it becomes too difficult to stop gambling you need a great effort to quit it.
We really need to be mature enough to understand why lots of people become addicted in gambling.
Before we can quit in gambling we should also convince our self that we need to quit as possible as we can.
We gamble because we just wanted and some of us gamble because they really wanted to earn money but the truth is they really losing it all and that is not good. For me gambling is just for fun and not to make money. Addicted person can enjoy gambling, win or lose because I think that is their nature.

not just that you mentioned for someone that is way or life and for some one excitement
no wonder that people say "what happen in Vegas stay in Vegas", personally i never been in Vegas im from Europe and hope that i will go there one day to see this from first hand
That's every gamblers' dream I guess to go to Vegas to experience the real fun in the gambling and to see and feel the hot chicks there. I wish I could go there one day and I have already a lot of plan to do when I go to vegas, anyway I will just wait until I win big parlays on my bets.
7938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: September 14, 2016, 06:20:54 AM
Lossing  in gambling has higher chance  compare to winning.  True talk here that almost  people do  always  lose in the end when they do gambling. We cant really exactly predict result since its a matter of  luck game and also it add up on the advantage of the house.
We really cannot predict the result of our every game in gambling and losing is more often than winning and that is the fact when it comes in gambling. The house is the true winner here in the end of the day since they are really earning everyday in every gambler that playing inside their house.
yes they are because they design it to profit they didn't create a charity anyway might be possible to compute our winnings but for sure the lose is more than that.
Well, you are really right. HAHAHA! gambling sites are really not for charity, that is a business and if you want to own a business try this kind of business and I think you will really get rich and we always wins in the end of the game, unlike simple gambler we cannot predict whether we can win or not. But the fact is losing is more often than winning when we play gambling.

Gambling sites is definitely a business and  every owners   invest their own money to make it grow  and  for sure they wont  give free money to anyone same as you said they are not  charity.lol. They would surely make an advantage to its players that why almost of gamblers of  a gambling site actually losses on the long run.
They don't matter if a certain player is winning as long as in overall they will be making profit, that is how business works and they assure they profit because they have the advantage, I have a big lose in gambling and I also wins sometimes but base on my understanding, I am currently down .
7939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: September 14, 2016, 05:12:12 AM
Damn I just tried playing in 777 casino games and deposited 0.012BTC and after 1 hour withdrew 0.026BTC.
Not lying I can even prove it by giving you the details if  in case you thinking I'm promoting them or something.
good for you, may I also never like that. I guess it's your lucky day because it can make bitcoin you invest into a double. to date I have never gamble again because I was busy with some work, but if there is time, I will start working again in order to produce bitcoin again in large numbers
It's fine to lose if you are getting the money from your online work, and who knows if you can win, because in gambling there are only two results which are win or lose, so if you are lucky you can win a good amount of money and you will no longer work anymore for a given day.
7940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 14, 2016, 04:54:21 AM
If I was rich I would gamble due to the fact you got plenty of money it would not be bad to sometimes do it for some nice enjoyment, of course not too much but sometimes.
I think if you do it sometimes it will not let you come in big problems.

You are right when you will be rich then you will get a lot of money and in them you may have to enjoy the visit of nay casino as at that time you will be able to afford the expenditures of any casino and will be able to afford any lose at there while gambling. Most of the rich people go to gambling sites and casino in order to gamble to get some fun. and they are happy as they spend only a little time and affordable money in gambling.

That is why many are going to keep on gambling when they are going to be rich. Because if you are poor then you are an addicted gambler your problem is money.

And if you are going to become rich already you are not going to problem anymore financial thing and you can freely keep on gambling.

But for me, I will going to be wise with it, instead of keep on gambling I will going to completely quit and focus more on business.
That's pretty safe move, I commend your focus my friend that you will protect your wealth and does not give gambling a chance to ruin your dreams, I believe there are people who can still do gambling even if they are rich but it is better to stay away if you are not sure with what you are doing.
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