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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [OMG] - Pumped up by a botnet? on: August 30, 2017, 12:34:18 AM
I know exactly what you're talking about. I call it the loop de loop. A lot of coins do this and although I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I think the exchanges themselves do this to keep the coins appearing fresh and active. However, I've observed more to keep the pot stirred and generate volume versus profiteering. NEO went from 88-93 for days and OMG has it's loop as well. What I surmised is that it's hoping to seduce buyers into an entry at the low or give the illusion that the coin is about to pop as it heads higher. The non-artificial volume seems to set the price. OMG seems up about 5-7% the last few days on less than convincing volume. If it's going down again, I would think that the genuine volume is not quite there yet. That said, I think it's headed generally North as it consolidated in a pretty tight band since 8/19 or so.

The slicker buying/selling bots seem to run a two-way algorithm- for example, if you want to unload 25k a day, it will sell 50k worth and buy 25k, usually in very small batches. You as a programmer could speak more to this than I could but thought I'd share something because I stare at this stuff too damn much. Smiley

Cheers

Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head there.  Good luck!
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [OMG] - Pumped up by a botnet? on: August 30, 2017, 12:32:16 AM
Well unless you are running a bot yourself this is usually harmless. Yes the bot is feeling out the order book and it will routinely add and remove bids to see what the legitimate ones are. I don't think it is a sign of manipulation as much as just a profitable coin to make money off using bots. Unless you are day trading, or something, just place bids at market order prices. In the grand scheme of things, 1 or two sats price difference isn't going to make or break your trades.

What will break your trades though is this behavior over time pumping up a coin which really doesn't have the legs to sustain that price.  When they pull the plug and liquidate, the price craters and it's for a lot more than a few sat.  Just look at OMG's chart for today by minute and you can see it happen several times.  This is not random behavior.
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoin trading strategies on: August 30, 2017, 12:23:07 AM
Find the 'Exponential Moving Average' display on your exchange.  On Bittrex thats under 'Studies' -> 'Moving Average' and change 'Type' to 'Exponential'.

Only buy when it's under that line by a fair bit.  Only buy half as much as you're willing to spend, and be ready to buy more if it dips more.  Sell any time you can make a profit, but don't necessarily sell all of it, maybe the profit will improve.  Don't buy coins that have recently pumped.  Don't buy coins in a death spiral.  Do learn to identify trading bots and avoid the coins they trade on (IT'S A TRAP!).  Don't bother with low volume coins unless you don't mind waiting a long time for them to appreciate and you're 110% they're good bets.

I like to sell 90% of what I bought at about 115% of what I bought it at, then hold the remaining 10% of the coin for long term hodling and a little BTC on top for rainy days.  Setup your sells like this to be automatic so you don't miss quick spikey pumps.

So far my strategy has me up about 20%, but I've only been trading about a week and a half.  It's also gotten me 15 different kinds of coins I sit on and let appreciate.  I've gotten some free CURE, QWARK, MCO, GEO, SYS, MTL, FLO, ADT, MUSIC, XVG, SC, CFI, DASH, BAT, and VIA.  And my original stack of BTC is currently about 95% of what I started with.

Good luck!
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [OMG] - Pumped up by a botnet? on: August 30, 2017, 12:12:09 AM
How can bots pump a coin?

By buying the coin and making hype around it or? This seems an expensive way for me as you can't be successful every time. And you could end up with a worthless coin.

Buy making sure that any buys that come in are at or above market rate, even a small amount.  My background as a programmer makes this pattern of behavior more obvious to me, but it can be hard to spot.  Take care.
85  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: tina from bitmain sales with a gmail address have you delt with her? on: August 30, 2017, 12:04:27 AM
Received a letter:


Bit Main <seller.bitmain@gmail.com>

Dear fan of Bitmain,
I'm Laura from sales team, Bitmain company.
I send email to say we are releasing a new batch of the right now!
The quantity is very low, maybe around 50 for all, so please check our website and order right now!
D3: https://shop.bitmain.com/p roductDetail.htm?pid=000201708 17162128100hiH7jINR0692

You received this email because you are an user of Bitmain. So sorry if I bother you.
If the product out of stock let me know, maybe I can help in the next time!

Best,
Laura

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Beijing (Bitmain Headquarters)
Building 25, North Olympic Science & Technology Park,
Baosheng South Road, Haidian District, Beijing, China 100029.
Phone: +86-400 890 8855
Email:
info@bitmaintech.com
supplier@bitmain.com (for suppliers)
hr@bitmain.com(resume&job consulting)

I've spoken with the Bitmain support staff about these emails.  THEY ARE ALWAYS A SCAM.  Beware.  Don't click the links they provide, there's ways to disguise / obscure links so they look like you're going to Bitmain's site, but you're not.  They might be trying to get you to visit a site that has some sort of virus or keylogger so they can manipulate your BTC transactions or spy on you.  Nothing good can come of interacting with them.

Frankly, I have a very, very low opinion of Bitmain so I think they're a scam too.
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [OMG] - Pumped up by a botnet? on: August 29, 2017, 11:37:01 PM
Not just OMG. I've seen it used on plenty of other coins. Probably an algorithm that evaluates every new order and if they feel it's large enough, they'll snipe it. I've combated it by placing a lot of small orders randomly spaced out.

That's a great strategy, thanks I'll try that.
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / [OMG] - Pumped up by a botnet? on: August 29, 2017, 10:52:20 PM
So I'm watching OMG when I noticed it's having a really nice day, surging up steadily.

I think, ok, i'll get in on that, and try to place a bid in for a little under market.  Instantly my buy is sniped by 1 sat by someone with a much larger order.  I figure that's just how the market goes, whatever.  So I try a couple other bids. Every time, the same large sized order snipes my bid by 1 sat.

How is this possible?  It's fine to snipe someone at random, that happens.  But my bids were all over the place, and every time, 1 sat snipe guy sat right over me with a large order.  He wasn't sniping other users, just mine (even though, as far as I know, Bittrex won't tell you who placed an order, there is no good way to identify who an order came from although the size and bid amount can be a clue).

The only way that could work is if almost all of the trades currently going through are from a network of bots trading to each other, co-ordinating their bids to make sure that if you buy, it's at slightly over market rate or better.  They congest the bids with their own orders to make sure you can't get in at a decent deal.  And gradually, the price moves up (as it has been).  Until one moment, they all liquidate in unison, back down to where it was before this began.

Careful with OMG right now.  I believe the surge you are seeing in price is false and manipulated, and as soon as they can, they'll drop it right back down.
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GEO] GeoCoin | GIS & GeoTechnologies on: August 29, 2017, 09:40:43 PM
You should buy again at half the price than you bought earlier, so if you later rise to the normal price that you first buy, you must sell already profitable.

Excellent advice.  That's what I did, and at today's spike sold enough of my GEO to cover my total buy-in plus some free GEO which I'm now holding onto forever.
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [GEO] ** MAJOR UPDATE INCOMING ** on: August 29, 2017, 09:29:50 PM
GEO had a +75% spike today, yay!

Notice that on the historical charts, these pumps are generally very short lived, and come in pairs.  And the second is much larger than the first.  I view these pumps as heavily driven by market manipulators, not so much actual metrics of the coin.  The first pump is to buy out the hold outs, but then the second one is to actually harvest profits.

So if you didn't get out on this first one, don't worry I'm sure another chance will be around soon.  It might be shockingly short though, but I'm sure when it settles down GEO will be way over it's previous floor of 50-30k.   However, the market manipulators will probably stick their accumulation bot right back on the coin to drive the value down over time until they decide to do it again.
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: what coins downtrend but have the potential of growth X10, X100 on: August 29, 2017, 09:16:41 PM
SYS, GEO, CVC

SYS is a top notch coin destined for great things.  Wildly undervalued right now (although it just had a heck of a rally today, if you buy in you may want to wait a moment for that to settle down).

GEO is a really neat idea whose day will come eventually.  Unfortunately it's plagued by market manipulators, hypesters and bots pushing the price down until they occasionally decide to remove them long enough to let the price spike (like happened today and tends to happen about once every two week or so).  But if I understand your question correctly, that's basically what you're looking for, so check it out.  Careful, it just spiked today and will probably correct down a while but I think it will spike again and much more so, soon, the chart shows that the spikes tend to come in pairs a day or two apart and the second one is generally much larger.

I think CVC is a strong pick too.  Lately it's been moving sideways and slightly up over time, but some day soon - BAM; Moon. 
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Syscoin: Professional Development / Extremely Undervalued. Perfect Entry. on: August 29, 2017, 09:09:17 PM
Woot!  Thanks again for the great tip dbt.

I hope it keeps going, Syscoin deserves so much more attention than it gets.
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Sell your MCO before midnight Aug 30th on: August 29, 2017, 01:48:45 PM
Dump confirmed.  It looks like the trader bot ran out of batteries, maybe they'll get some new ones.

Sorry MCO holders....  Maybe it'll recover.  Good luck.  I'm buying back in when it settles down.
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 PUMP GROUP THAT PUMP COINS TO THE MOON🌙 🌙🌙 on: August 29, 2017, 01:11:38 PM
So the idea is you create false value in a coin just long enough to hustle some bag holders to pay inflated rates for a coin that isn't worth it?  Then you take your profits, leave them with a loss and laugh your way to the bank?

Then those bag holders rampage against the coin devs, who very likely had nothing to do with it at all?

This is a toxic component of the Crypto scene imo.  It's one thing to discuss a coin, highlight some obscure investment and review it's pros/cons, but I'd chalk up what you're describing much more in the 'bold faced lying' category.





( To the other BCT poster I took this image from: Sorry, but it's just too perfect, couldn't help myself. )
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [GEO] ** MAJOR UPDATE INCOMING ** on: August 29, 2017, 01:02:01 PM
As some of you may have noticed, in Bittrex there has been a trader with 10,000+ GEO (roughly one third of one percent of all circulating supply) keeping a sell in place at just over the best offer.  The effect of this is to suppress the rise of any sell offers, and to make sure if you do try to sell, it's for ridiculously low profits, maybe 10 sat or less over the best offer.  I think this is an automated process to accumulate, while constantly driving the value down.

Well, I was watching the stock for a chance to buy in dips and sell in peaks when I noticed this large block removed from the Ask list.  Maybe it noticed me glaring at it.  Does this mean the pump is incoming?  Hard to say, I've been expecting it for days now.  But it *can* happen now, which is a promising start.  At the very least, natural and organic growth of the coins value can occur, at least until they decide to put it back in place (hopefully, never).

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EDIT: They put it back in place.   Angry  I wish someone with 3.5 BTC to burn would just buy it from them, they'd probably make a nice return on it once GEO resumed it's normal upward trajectory.

In other GEO news, I spoke with the development team earlier today and they confirmed some basic facts I was wondering about, namely what happens to the old GEO when they finish the migration to the UBQ block chain?  Don't worry, all existing GEO will be transferred to the new format with current ownership maintained.  This will be handled by the Bittrex exchange internally.  This new blockchain is not a fork, there is not going to be two GEO's, none of that.
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can any cryptocurrency overhaul Bitcoin's value in future? on: August 29, 2017, 12:19:22 PM
Hey everybody. I see that this forum has a lot of people talking about the strengths about bitcoin. For eg there are posts which say value of 1BTC to reach $500K or 1BTC = Lamborghini and even one which debated whether one can forego their jobs over Bitcoin.

It makes me wonder whether there are any cryptocurrencies which will overtake bitcoin in the near future. I mean BTC got to where it is because it was first in the market. But now with increasing awareness there's equal oppportunity for other such currencies to make it as big.

My question to you all which will later be converted into a poll:

Is there any cryptocurrency which can beat Bitcoin in sheer value?


Value is a tricky thing to gauge.  Do you mean the value of one (non-BTC coin)?  Byteball ([GBYTE]) has come surprisingly close, peaking at nearly 40% of 1 BTC, currently around 9.5% - however, there are only 1 million byteballs in existence, so the actual market cap of GBYTE is far lower than BTCs.  Supply * cost for one coin is probably a more accurate way to describe value than just 'how much does one of these go for'.

If by value, you mean 'better functionality they bring to the table', then I'd say Syscoin deserves a look.  It's really nice, very fast, has a market place, (much) faster transactions, encrypted messaging, even an escrow service.  However it currently trades for about $0.16 - sometimes the world is not fair.
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Sell your MCO before midnight Aug 30th on: August 29, 2017, 10:46:15 AM
Uh oh, looks like the dump may have started early.

Think it will recover?  The bottoms are trending down now.  I sold half early and will buy it back at the deepest dip I can.  I think it might get down to 370k or so before it finds firm support.
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Sell your MCO before midnight Aug 30th on: August 29, 2017, 10:37:02 AM
she has 84 posts and half of them "sell your mco pleaseeee!"  Grin

I think it means "i missed the train and trying to buy cheap mco" so that's funny. I will not sell of course. But if you pay 100$ for 1 mco i will think about it.

'He', and I have MCO and have for a while.  Nice to see it finally making a profit.  Who cares how many posts I have?  Apparently you don't even know that 'activity' is not the same thing as 'posts', so how good is your judgement?  I probably post 84 comments a day sometimes, I'm very active.

Considering your activity is a 7, it seems like something you wouldn't want to bring attention to, newbie.
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [SYS] - Very impressive on: August 29, 2017, 10:23:13 AM
I would rather to invest in a coin that focuses only one business, how can they maintain such businesses together? but it is good coin no doubt

I think in many ways their focus is all one business: transactions.  Sometimes that requires a marketplace, sometimes it requires escrow, sometimes it requires encrypted messages and secure communications.  It will always require fast transfers of funds.  So it may seem like they are all over the map but I think it's just part of providing a complete solution.
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Sell your MCO before midnight Aug 30th on: August 29, 2017, 10:20:25 AM
Legit, now is the time to HOLD.

Sell when the other half of the market is about to launch into 'ASK'

ridiculous the amount of money being thrown around right now.
Because the price of the monaco token already pumped so hard and that makes sense to sell your token before 30 august. And i think that the possible think to buy back again in low price.
But is there a reliable news about monaco in this time? With about visa approval, is that true?

I think maybe best bet is to sell half of it.  So if it goes down, no big deal, use the realized gains to buy back more MCO for less BTC.  If it goes up, at least you still have half your MCO to profit from, and some wildly pumped gains to enjoy until then.
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Sell your MCO before midnight Aug 30th on: August 29, 2017, 10:18:30 AM
I just asked around about this on monaco's slack channel to make sure what I'm saying is as technically accurate as possible.

Other users there referred me to previous statements made by the CEO, Kris.  They do have a substantial reserve of tokens but 'won't circulate them without consulting the MCO community'.  That does nothing to ease my concerns, it's a meaningless statement.

"Hah, we're flooding the market - consider yourself consulted, suckers!"

 Angry
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