The concept is really great , But you have real problem here , I have bought Minereum to but Artemine with it but after I did some math I resold my Minereum , I didn''t know that it would be over 60 years ( I know my fault for not reading the whole thing ) , But once I found out it is 60 years I lost interest , Now why would anyone by $1000 to he/she would take them back over 60 years even if the price of Artmine doubled hmm even if it X 10 why would I pay 1000 now to take it over the next 60 years 10,000 even if the price X10 it is totally not worth it (Specially in crypto world ) , I did not put in the other factors too !! Like what is the chances that this project will still existing not for 60 years but for even the next 10 years ! . I did not mention that until this moment there is no real uses for the coin Artemine ! but I am sure development team promised for a lot of uses in the future . That project would have been great if the mining was over a span of 6 or 12 months max .
This is weird, so we will receive our tokens after 60 years ?? no way, i think there is misunderstanding. We participated on this project to receive our tokens directly, after 60 years no one assure himself to be in this world. Artemine is a self mining coin, which means it gets mined by your own address over a period of 60 years. Lets say you have bought 21900 artemine. This means over the period of 60 years, 365 days a year, you'll get exactly 1 arte on your address a day. Now, if the devs choose to let MNE and Art work together, both projects could prove very lucrative. Imagine paying your monthly World App fee with Arte, or investing 20 Arte a month in the Lottery, or buying an Arte genesis address with Mne, ... Right, and just to be clear, there's no actual mining happening from a computational sense, there is of course mining on the ETH blockchain to power this PROOF OF STAKE project. So you're really buying a stake in Artemine in order to be rewarded with the token over time... |
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VERI is a "mature" token in that it's been out a while (relative to ongoing flurry of ICOs) and thus its price should be fairly stable. The price should reflect overall market movements and investor sentiment mostly; however, due to fairly low volume it's going to be susceptible to large holders rebalancing their portfolios.
Investor sentiment could be the cause here... and maybe not so much a loss in confidence in VERI but maybe VERI has lost its shine in the shadow of the recent and upcoming shiny ICOs. VERI holders may be attracted to some shiny new products. Reggie's updates have been nice but there hasn't been a lot of "concrete" news releases. I also think that the purpose and utility of VERI is still fuzzy to some people, and that they are waiting for a concrete or real-life use case to be presented. Telling people that a VERI token gives someone "access" to the "VERI platform" is hard to conceptualize in real terms. I think the world is waiting for the JSE project to go live so people can get a firmer understanding of exactly how it all works and more importantly, how the VERI token is used.
Token holders/investors seem to be a fickle bunch. Everyone wants those 20x gains but they don't seem to have the patience to wait for them. Most don't seem to realize that in many of these ICOs you are buying into a the early stages of a project and these projects take time to develop. That's why the tokens are so cheap now. They will not be when VERI starts to mature. I think I told this story before on here but I bought Chipotle stock right after its IPO many years ago. I held it for 6 months and after the stock price failed to move I sold it. Big mistake. I know VERI (and PPT) will be the same way, but I'm not selling this time.
All the NEW ICO's are scams and hype. Stick with what you can trust. In VERI and PPT we have a very professional team with a very promising idea and the skills required to actually fulfill it. Most tokens, especially the new ones are outright scams that literally use identity theft to copy paste some random guy's photo into their "About Us" page. Bogus scam websites with anonymous owners. The ICO market has really devolved into a den of thieves. So you got to trust the projects that actually have legitimate reputable people behind it. They are getting buried under the scams, but once the scams go away, they will float to the surface and they will be the ones that will survive. I wouldn't say ALL the new ICO's are scams. My biggest beef with the current state of ICO's are their "initial valuations" are absolutely grotesque. Most of them clone an existing project and say they're going to be worth 50-100 million dollars on day one? Give me a fucking break.... |
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I hate to be the noob in the forum that asks "what is the news?" but for real, what's going on with Walton. I knew things would be big but not this big and this soon! Is it the Jianjiang competition that WTC is at least taking 2nd and receive a large sum of money? Is it the genesis block creation soon to come? Is it both???
I don't care either way but would like to know the logic, WTC has had an impressive couple of months considering all of the drama in the market!
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September was looking very promising for VERI, after the 18th we are again witnessing accelerated selling, the same is happening with PPT, so what are your thoughts, double bottom on .0156 btc, or even more blood?  I think Veritaseum received a lot of attention from it's insane growth since the ICO, people bought in without knowing the potential of the project with a working product. They see the price drop and sell off instantly as there's no way to short and this will continue until Reggie releases news comparable to the Jamaican Stock Exchange. I've lost money on Veri but haven't thought of selling once, we'll look back on these prices in a year and laugh. Needless to say, I'm bullish  Regarding PPT, I'm completely dumbfounded on this dip, I think there's interest in PayPie and people are worried it will out compete Populous. I, for one, think PPT will have a consistent presence in the top 25 as their product is going to be released in the coming months. |
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Alot of trolls here. I believe in this project and soon when a new feature will be released it will soar
We are quite near at the bottom right now if you look at the big picture of CMC price graph. And the whole 51.86% coin mass haven't been burned yet... but when it does.. I honestly don't know will MNE price go steady growth until 2x (for the same marketcap valuation as it is now) or stay same. Interesting times we have yet to see how the official burning event will affect to the market price. I'm guessing MNE and ARTE will be in the ditch price-wise until some actual product development is made. I think the reason the mysterious dev is doing this ICO is to raise money for actual development funds, which is a good idea. However, if he/she/it could just communicate this to us then we wouldn't have to be guessing everyday and experiencing such a high volume of FUD. I'm actually quite excited to see if they can pull this off, but show some fucking transparency for god's sakes and talk to the people who believe in you and your project. |
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I am sure that this project will be a huge success.BUT price will go down in short term
Agreed, we will see it float around 1-2$ but ultimately I think the project cap will exceed a billion dollars in early 2018... |
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WTC has had a heck of a run over the past week. When is the genesis block? Trading volume is increasing along with the price, I wish I had some spare powder for this one.
Yeah bought at 2$ during the last rally and doubled down when it hit .65$ and now I'm thinking we could see 10$ in a month or two! while I don't think this is necessarily out of the realm of possibility when you factor in the quality of project + the incentive of masternodes, I think this current pump has to do with October 18th speculation in China. Most of the Chinese coins pumped over the past 24-48 hrs, and there is a thought that the ICO ban may be lifted after the Chinese elections. If that doesn't happen, the market could react in a nasty way. Walton's a great long term buy regardless tho. Is the election really going to effect anything? The government is trying to regulate ICO's not ban them, I think it's inevitable the temporary ban will be lifted and legitimate ICO's will be welcome to open for business. The government is trying to crack down on fraud and will make the industry stronger as a whole, I've been bullish on this ICO ban news since I heard it... |
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The App IS a marketing ploy to gain adoption. They will download the app to get free money, which will be $5 to $8 a month, and not the $1.66 suggested.
For one Richard said $3-$5 at most, himself. I averaged lower because the $3-$5 is a best case scenario for people that leaving it running all the time with good phones. Most people aren't walking around with the latest $1000 phone.
You agree we will bring onboard users at a rate crypto has never seen, yes?
That remains to be seen.
You sound like someone from out of the crypto world and these are legit concerns, dont get me wrong, but many cryptos have produced 100x gains +++ that have done much less.
And just as many have crashed and burned.
You dont agree that millions of users of an App will bring IMMENSE value to a crypto. I get that for now.
Thats fine that you dont see it that way and all, but there are those that do, which will make it skyrocket in price right there.
That value added just by perception, and that happens a lot of times in cryptoland.
But then everyone eventually dumps, right? I do truly understand where you are coming from, as I used to feel the same way.
The difference is this crypto will gain a ton of users just because of the initial buzz. Everyone will want to get free money.
What I would point out here is that on top of that viral effect, marketing Apps in mainstream markets comes down to cost per acquisition, the advertising cost paid per download. It is way way way less than a dollar.
These guys have already paid their own money to design everything ahead of time.
They have first mover advantage as the first crypto mined successfully and safely on a cellphone.
But you aren't actually mining. Richard says so in his interview video. All it's doing is checking your GPU and sending out coins based on that. It's just a gimmick to get users in the hopes that it will keep them.
They are in the top on their field (marketing) and they know how to get downloads.
They have already raised 3 million and will end up with 10-15 million.
But you dont argue that, they are gonna get millions of downloads, what you seem to question is what effect that will have on the markets.
They will easily pass Bitcoin in total users, which has never been done. This will generate a ton of press, which will only move the growing snowball down the hill faster.
I can generate millions of users/downloads too if I start an app that gives out money for free. Apps get income from users in turn actually spending money on other perks that they want. How will millions of users make this successful when most of them won't end up using the coins for anything or best case just dumping their free coins if they figure out how to exchange them for fiat? If the target was the average person then I can see them working on keeping those people around but when their real market is gamers, the majority of those people will not be gamers, so what incentive is there for them to continue using the coin for anything? Todays society is all about instant gratification. When people find out they can't do anything with the coins they'll likely move on, like I've said.
Will the news that Electroneum passed Bitcoin in amount of users cause ETN to pass Bitcoin in marketcap? No. That will not be enough.
What it will do is reach $1 or so a coin and be worth 10-15% of the marketcap Bitcoin has now.
Why?
Because a network with millions of people has value. The news of having the most crypto users has value. Investors will see it as the next big thing and buyers will flock to the markets.
This will only get it more attention, and the snowball continues to pick up speed and only increase in size.
Bitcoin has 3 million users. ETN will have more. It wont cost $4000 a piece, but those that got in for a penny or less will make absolutely insane ROI that lands ETN on the Top Ten highest ROIs from a tokensale in crypto history.
I'm not here to bash, just asking legitimate questions in hopes of getting some real counter argument. I don't think you're bashing at all, I invested a decent amount into this ICO and believe it will be very successful if they can bring really good tech that is marketed correctly for mainstream adoption. However, you bring up many good points/questions and ones that I mulled over myself before entering the ICO. Regarding the payment for 'mining' (or rewarding/staking from what it sounds like per Richard's interview?) I think that if this coin becomes valuable enough to raise the value of mining, then it will become a bit of a snowball effect wouldn't it? We can try to predict how much the price per coin will be but it really is based on the volume of people using the currency and if millions of people are actively using and mining the system will become self sustaining and quite powerful. However, I believe your skepticism is in the 'how' aspect and that is what ultimately will make or break this project. How exactly will the Electroneum team convince millions upon millions of everyday humans to go to their app store, download Electroneum and mine away until their eyes bleed? I guess that is what we will have to find out and I'm betting that these guys will figure it out... |
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WTC has had a heck of a run over the past week. When is the genesis block? Trading volume is increasing along with the price, I wish I had some spare powder for this one.
Yeah bought at 2$ during the last rally and doubled down when it hit .65$ and now I'm thinking we could see 10$ in a month or two! |
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at least 10$ by the end of october, no doubt
I'm going to hold you to that, would make me a very happy son of a bitch |
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Does anyone know the ICO price? Not finding it anywhere...
ICO price: 1 KNC = .00166 ETH 1 ETH = 602 KNC As of this writing: 1 KNC = 0.0079 ETH 1 ETH = 126 KNC Thank you, much appreciated!!! As dangerous and newbish as this is, I bought in yesterday. I don't think this is merely a FOMO rally, this will follow OMG's footsteps and has plenty of room to grow, of course I could always be dead wrong |
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Does anyone know the ICO price? Not finding it anywhere...
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Hey, where can i buy some GXS if im not chinese ? I see only one exchange with CNY only.
You can't, unfortunately... |
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No, if I understood correctly there will not be a distribution in October. It just will be skipped for October. The next regular airdrop is on full moon in November. Correct me if I am wrong but this is how I got it. The omitted distribution in October is for me also the explanation why the price has so much decreased. The big holders sold to invest the money in other projects and then buy back in time to participate again in November. When can we expect next airdrop?
and is it true that rewards are getting reduced
Next airdrop, if rules didn't change, will be in 6 October. The reward will be same as the previous one, in September That's correct, no airdrop in October, and also correct regarding dumpers. We will see this kind of price fluctuation until the airdrops are complete. This project has been a weird one regarding distribution but the wallet is really spot on and all of the new features/plug-ins are great. The potential for Byteball is huge, I'm predicting a massive year in 2018 not just for Byteball but cryptos in general. |
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Dev, I suggest you cancel the Artemine ICO and give us our MNE back, so we don't lose time & money.
We had hope and we truly believed in the project but it is hard to stay positive after the Artemine ICO "scandal"
HAHA you people are the worst, keep up the development and let's make this a valuable coin going into 2018 dev excited for the future of this concept! Are you any better cheerleading like that? I bet you don't even recognize. Alright, I'm out, it's impossible with situations like this. I'm trying to be an optimistic investor and the FUD can not be stopped. You really have no proof and as the dev said, they can try to deny this but no matter what there's no definitive proof either way the only thing that is known for certain is one person has a lot of MNE/ARTE gen addresses. So you have two options, take the dev's word or do not. If you try to support the project, you're just a cheerleader blindly following this corrupt developer I guess? Yeah, fuck me and I guess anyone who believes this project has potential and let's just let the FUD flow freely. I'm not responding on here anymore, you guys win, this project is definitely a scam because...ya know.....a few people said it was....... |
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Long time MNE holder here, have already made 10x my investment on this coin alone(so not just some random bag-holder). Have also used the VERY useful and cool Minereum Token Creation service without a hitch (which coins even HAVE currently working services to them again? more often they don't as of yet). I truly believe in this project but the amount of obviously timed and blatant FUD on this coin and the current Artemine ICO is just plain preposterous. Even if hypothetically the devs held many of the genesis addresses like MusclePUMP(The term "pump" in the name should be a dead giveaway to the real intentions of this guy off-the-bat tbh, which is purely FUD and here-say with little to no actual facts just allot of implying as to who owns what address for whatever reason he chooses to come up with) how many coins currently MUCH more successful than Minereum have already HUGE developer percentage "pre-mines" and even up to HALF THE ENTIRE STACK to the devs name and no one else (much like coins such as Ripple have been attested to have) or even just a very small % of the coins themselves in actual circulation vs. wherever the rest is located in various circumstances (Being "held" by the devs as well, or just in oblivion somewhere to no one's knowledge as to where) or even in the case with ETH where Vitalik himself was known to have, and DID sell a good chunk of his stack of ETH (albeit at a MUCH lower price as it is now), no one is calling any of these projects pure "scamcoins", so the point still remains that calling Minereum or even worse, Artemine, "just a SCAM" is a blatant and preposterously bad FUD attempt made by some no-namer *PUMP N DUMP* coiner who just wants to manipulate the price for himself or whatever else he has to gain from attempting to throw shade onto an otherwise legitimate and good project with actual progress being made as to it's development in mere MONTHS of it's very existence vs. other coins which sometimes take YEARS to reach fruition of the *Proof-of-concept* efforts the coin itself was meant to have been seen making happen in real-life from the developers standpoint. In a nutshell, this is pathetic FUDing hardcore if I've ever seen it at a more-than-opportune time to FUD and stand to gain from the lower prices of pumping and dumping on yet another ICO project leaving many bag-holders in it's wake and people are actually falling for it. Please, please , PLEASE end this poo-show and let's get back to the business of actually helping support development of an actually GOOD COIN WITH HATERS AND ACTIVE FUDDERS ALL OVER IT ACTING MERELY OUT OF WANT FOR THEIR OWN STUPID REASONS AND GAINS. Kudos to all investors and the developers themselves for putting up with this stuff and continuing their work on this great project.  Oh no! Someone else isn't buying the FUD guys, IAMWAGNER add him to your hitlist!!! This is turning into a sad joke... |
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Dev, I suggest you cancel the Artemine ICO and give us our MNE back, so we don't lose time & money.
We had hope and we truly believed in the project but it is hard to stay positive after the Artemine ICO "scandal"
HAHA you people are the worst, keep up the development and let's make this a valuable coin going into 2018 dev excited for the future of this concept! |
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Can anyone direct me to more detailed info on the founders? Haven't been able to mind much aside from the website bios. Thanks in advance.
This has been a point of contention for some investors and we still have little information on the team outside the website bios. I think if you scroll through this sub someone tried to reach out to team members to verify their association to the project and have not gotten a reply. I'm personally not concerned about the team, the project seems legit and has really important connections to companies for future partnerships. However, it would be nice to have some more transparency and communication while this project is gaining momentum. But this is also my critique of most of the crypto projects I'm invested in, hope it just means the devs are insanely busy making a killer product! |
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Final thoughts....
I posted what I did when I did for the community.. I accepted my loss and now it's time to move on... One last thing that bugs me (ocd) I never took the time to get the exact number of address that linked to the main one I found... So
If anyone is willing to go thru the gen addresses and tie the gen addresses together and put them in a spreadsheet and give an exact number I will be willing to tip someone $100 in any coin preferred....
Again here is the main addresses that ties them together
0xaae9df016092cefde18f3918a9a73ad8fe0eb1a0
It's quite obvious that the dev had control of thousands of genesis addresses to dump MNE. The airdrop was just a clever way to allow them to do so. You don't even need all this abundance of proof. Its common sense. Do you really think the Dev just gave himself one address? This is not to say that they are not actually developing a product, its just that their primary motivation is making money and a lot of it which is everyone's motivation. There are also probably some whales that also knew how to buy multiple ips in bulk and register MNE gen addresses with them. This is the answer. Minereum's official account came on and said he didn't have those addresses. So we have a liar as well. I believe that post has since been deleted (hope you guys got copies of it  ). Along with the alleged email proof of the blackmail I have this saved on my desktop its so damn ridiculous. Next week when he delivers his next update he is gonna photoshop a picture of him with Steve Jobs and MiBambino, miner45678 and MrPuffnStuff (Minereum) will start hyping it to anyone who will listen so they can slide off newly minted tokens popping out of their genesis addresses. No one could be ignorant enough to actually believe those email pictures. These 3 stooges have got to be Minereum. Be careful on this ICO. Its a 63 year trap. I would love some company in here but I highly advise you to run as fast as you can away from this. LOL @ ME BEING MINEREUM DEV I didn't even know what Ethereum was until April of this year, but I appreciate you thinking I'm capable of pulling off all of this |
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