It's sad to say this but Lisk is now have less assets than Ark. Lisk have about 3,200 BTC, 7,000,000 Lisk, and some cash. Ark have about 3,400 BTC, 29,000,000 Ark and some cash. Lisk have nothing done and the assets is almost gone. This is just very sad. I know Lisk started off as a scam project by Mark and Olivia but the amount of money they once have in controlled should of been done something very special, but ended up down the toilet. The money they used to have for this project is insane! I following the main Ark BTC address https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/356xnT1xFW89d4jSBww7QSiTELnuePLknW and it still have about 3,400BTC |
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Good job Lisk for able to think for yourself and moving away from Ark in this subject. This is good first step. Now we're waiting for many more years or decades to see if anything is working... |
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Trust should or been broke long ago, it copy from Ark once is OK, twice is not OK but in Lisk case is endless times.
Not to say it's going into 4 years in a few months with no real product and real goal. Max as co-founder have no idea of his blockchain as he's not a coder and already made off millions! I believed he'd made no less than $50million. Oliver is not a quality coder, his forked Lisk blockchain broke seen day one, I lost money because of Lisk broken blockchain on Poloniex.
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97th place in the rating market cap, that not a day and the price is getting lower and lower, the rating is lower and lower, the project will soon fly out of the top 100 and everything can be closed, everything below the top 30 is not needed by anyone.
Please sell ASAP. I'm kind of sick of your whining every day. Thank you  Yes, please buy from me this $ 5 shit and I will forget about it with pleasure. This is the worst my investment in cryptomir. So what do we do a deal, accept webmoney or bitcoin? I never paid more than $0.20 for 1 Ark, so I can offer you that price. But you can probably get 3x more on Bittrex. Your choice at this rate of fall, you will soon see your purchase prices, do not oversleep, otherwise you will sell at $ 0.0001 I sold some for $5-10 during the crazy 2017 bubble. So I don't really care how low the price goes. I did my profit taking when you started your investing... Might start buying again if it hits under $0.20 I know I sound like a snobby bastard. I don't enjoy doing this to you at all. But you need to understand you shouldn't put money you're not willing to burn into this... If you can't handle the loss, sell and forget about it over several vodka bottles... Or you could try not being a whining crybaby and just wait a while (months, years, ..) for the price to go back up (hopefully). There is no choice, the price has become such that it remains to wait for the result, either 0 or return on investment. When I studied the book and the roadmap, I was sure that this was the best project, now I’m not sure about that, the team urgently needs to change financial advisers and reduce costs, as well as to engage in aggressive advertising of the project and implementation of projects using the Ark itself, This is not done then in the memory of people they will remain as fraudsters who are not able to fulfill their obligations to investors. Secondly, I am embarrassed that we are in a conversation in Troy instead of thousands of people. At this rate, you can live to delisting with a good stock exchange. I am not sure what you are talking about here. There is no ARK book, I believe you mean the original whitepaper. Our vision is still solid and we are constantly hitting milestones and crossing off roadmap items since we launched. We turned $800,000 USD into over 4000 BTC, I think our finances are doing just fine. Our overhead is very small and we have operating expenses to last over a decade, which increases exponentially with the increase of bitcoin price as well. You contradicted your statement about our finances pretty hard with the demand for advertising. You can't reduce overhead by spending more money. I don't know who you are referring to as fraudsters, but the ARK team has done nothing to even justify this accusation. We raised $800,000 USD with the promise to build out the ARK software and code. There was never any promise of anything else, and we even offered full refunds during and after the TEC. I don't know what or who troy is so I cannot understand your embarrassment on that subject. We have not been delisted from any exchanges either. It's simple. From what I pieced together from his rambling over the last year, it looks like he bought Ark in late 2017 for around $5. Now he's basically asking the team to pump the price so he can make profit. Well done, you are not confused by the fall in the rating from 50th place to 123rd place, along with this price drop by 95%. And when and for how much I invested in the project do you care? Yes, and I sold 98% of my ark. I left 2% for memory so as not to forget how the shares turn to zero. I don't think Ark going to be zero. I do blame Ark for lack of communication and marketing. At today price of about $12,000 per Bitcoin and they have about 3000 Bitcoins plus the Ark tokens we could easily say they have $40,000,000 in hand, they could have much more when the price of Bitcoin or Ark going up. They could easily creating some serious noise and impact things in crypto and for Ark, some thing like big reward or contest for people creating big and crazy dApp. What I meant big is something like $50k, 100k or even $1million, not just $100, $5 or even $1 right now. They still have plenty of room with the money. I would fire all their communications and even marketing people right now. To me Ark just can't make or creating noise or hype right now, which they can but choose not to do it. Crypto is all about hype, noise and claim everything to be the first. If you don't have any of these then you should closing your project down. I think the price of Ark is shxit right now because insiders want to obtaining more Ark for themselves. So basically the price of Ark this low because they're dumping it and will get more Ark at cheaper price. They're the gamers of this game. I would dump all my Ark right now, these guys going to walk it down very low. |
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Oh, the copycats! The level of people copying Ark is crazy!
Please name one. I've heard a lot about these mythical copycats, but no one wants to name them for some reason. Lisk is one but there are a bunch, some completely removed all Ark. There is none of the crypto calling or naming itself interoperability or even Ecosystem before Ark. Now most crypto calling itself ecosystem or interoperability, I call that copycat. There is no vendorfield or bridge before with lisk, I call that copycat. There is no hook/plugin/modular or typescript before with lisk, I call that copycat. The lists keep going and going, basically Lisk try to have everything Ark already done a few months or year back. They don't want to fork from Ark so they look weak but rather copying and taunting then naming/calling it something else. They kill Crypti this way, copy/fork it and hype they're better. If you read lisk roadmap now, it's just Ark but a year late because of that copying process. This is way beyond copycat craziness, it's taunting, they don't even care/bother to create anything different from Ark. So to summarize the list of copycats consists of: 1. Lisk -end of list Ark started as a fork of Lisk. Something doesn't add up... You're just being ignorant just like the Lisk people |
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Oh, the copycats! The level of people copying Ark is crazy!
Please name one. I've heard a lot about these mythical copycats, but no one wants to name them for some reason. Lisk is one but there are a bunch, some completely removed all Ark. There is none of the crypto calling or naming itself interoperability or even Ecosystem before Ark. Now most crypto calling itself ecosystem or interoperability, I call that copycat. There is no vendorfield or bridge before with lisk, I call that copycat. There is no hook/plugin/modular or typescript before with lisk, I call that copycat. The lists keep going and going, basically Lisk try to have everything Ark already done a few months or year back. They don't want to fork from Ark so they look weak but rather copying and taunting then naming/calling it something else. They kill Crypti this way, copy/fork it and hype they're better. If you read lisk roadmap now, it's just Ark but a year late because of that copying process. This is way beyond copycat craziness, it's taunting, they don't even care/bother to create anything different from Ark. |
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This is really good! Keep up the good work. I can't wait to see part 2/2 and some working apps. This kind of thing I want to see and if you people keep pushing the whales going to be noticed Ark. We will not able to get cheaper Ark soon. Oh, the copycats! The level of people copying Ark is crazy! |
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If we start counting all useless tokens in crypto space you will notice that most of this useless tokens are running on erc20 block chain ,many good altcoins ive came across have separate owned block chain and they are plain better, I guess the reason we have too many shit altcoins in crypto space is because of the flexibility of erc20 ,making it easy for unprofessionals to build there useless tokens.
We have some good altcoins that are running on erc20 but you will see then moving to their own block chain later on or it will be included in their roadmap about the future swap.
The reason why I like tron block chain is the ability to get rid of fake tokens running on tron blockchain if ethereum can do this it will help a lot.
My answer is too many shitcoins are based on erc20.
These smart contracts platforms are the scam machine, simple as that. Scam over scam and nothing special about it, the so call smart contracts. |
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There's no specific timeline for altcoins commence bull, it could be now? Tommorow? next week or next year. That is always depending on the frequency of the buy and sell orders, and could trigger more demands once the community is always active.
There need to be a really crazy awesome altcoin in order to have an altcoins bull run. The last altcoins bull run is because of etherium flippenning, other altcoins hope to do the same of overtaking Bitcoin. Don't expecting Facebook coin to help altcions bull run because it always be a $1 coin and no flippenning anytime soon. I hope thing will change and this wild wild west cryptos land anything could happen. |
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No i don't and we will probably not going to find in our lifetime
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Do you think it ever going to be recovered and if you think, yes, then how long?
what kind of altcoins in your bag buddy? because as i knew, now ethereum almost touch $300 price level, and thats really good result for this altcoins and another great altcoins project already rising its value too,, thats mean altcoins still have a lot of chance to recover and touch the past high price,, just increase your patience buddy ETH/BTC used to be 0.032 last month and now 0.028, Bitcoin/altcoins wise altcoins are losing ground big time. I don't count BTC Dominance because more coins now than say last year or 2 years ago. I remembered last time when Bitcoin pump then altcoins pump because of Ethereum flippening hype, this time around is Facebook coin but the problem is Facebook coin will always be $1. |
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Just because of you're losing your faith on altcoins doesn't mean that other people are the same. Infact, market showed many positive signs. I saw a lot of 30-50% pumps in the last few weeks when bitcoin recovered from $7000 to $8000. No one can tell you how long it's gonna take. It's just whether you can keep your patient or not. If you buy your alts when bitcoin was at $19k, I think it'll be long.
Beside self pump binance coin I don't see any worthy known coin that's pump 30-50%. I must of missed something. |
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Do you think it ever going to be recovered and if you think, yes, then how long?
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now we use facebook as a media for the promoting crypto related projects.but every one knows about the facebook coin 'Libra' .as a expert of this field what you about the involving of the facebook to virtual currencies?? will it be help for the bitcoin to going up?? https://libra.org/en-US/, sound interesting, I liked it. |
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Somebody already posted what I'm about to say on social media, can't remember if it was on twitter or facebook.
FB doesn't have to ask for KYC, why? Because they already know where you live and almost every detail you do in your life.
Changpeng Zhao posted something similar on his twitter acc: https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1140914571495927808I'm not a fan of CZ but he's right on this one. Sound like this guy know FB coin going to destroy his crap system, endless air coins or exchange. |
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Hi ARK, Most of the people that are still holding ARK, are still holding because in the beginning you guys talked about Interoperability/ this is what sells/ this is the future. Now all you guys talk about is Core V1, Core V2, Core, Core, Core Core this Core that/ Core, Core, Core. No one is going to rush to invest in ARK because you're talking about Core. Cosmos, Polkadot and all those projects that are talking about Interoperability are the ones everyone/traders are flocking too. Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, get with the program Get this bad boy goingggggggggggggggggggggggggggg  Interoperability with Ark don't exist, it's probably just a scam pitch. ACES is just a community member interoperability which is also centralized. I don't think Ark ever have interoperability like it said it would have when it was first created to be. I guessed people see this in Ark and her team and the reason they don't pay attention much because they know these are the clown team. I started to lose hope when they keep asking community what to do next and really don't know how to fix when their chain is broken, everyone be screaming in their Slack chat. You know, the sad part also other scam copycat teams are still be copying Ark. |
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97th place in the rating market cap, that not a day and the price is getting lower and lower, the rating is lower and lower, the project will soon fly out of the top 100 and everything can be closed, everything below the top 30 is not needed by anyone.
When no marketing, no active discussion on bitcointalk and everyone of their team and community locking themselves in Slack plus when I first log into Slack I see a moron with message like no buyer or whale allow, then we would have a project sinking into shxit hole. These guys just don't get, no matter how good you are or the project, if no hype, no pump, no marketing, the project will just end up as poop. Don't forget there are many ARK copycats out there and they're would love to kill ARK at all cost. All and all, I will now less and less active here as I'm start moving somewhere else, I don't see any project start hanging below 100 ever come out of it. |
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The developers are living it large with their ICO profits and just chilling with some lame updates to the graphics which any high school developer can do. When we see those SDK tools and sidechain projects then we can all start to get excited
Fork of Lisk; Ark (but now is not lisk fork anymore) is doing great in their development they launch Ark deployer that you can make sidechain or your own Blockchain based on Ark. While Lisk sidechain still in development. The level of Lisk copying Ark without giving credit is way beyond stupidity, commander, bridgechain/bridge, vendor field, dynamic fee, soon 1 vote = 1 count system, the lists keep going, even their wallet idea or hub or even website is a copy of Ark. What really Lisk invent beside copying Ark? pretty much none. My question, why the act of stupidity and ignorant? The world already know Lisk forked from Crypti and ride the hype on Ethereum sidechain with the scam pitch of Javascript, pretty much nothing change seen the fork just some few keys copying from Ark. Lisk should just say or do fork from Ark and give some credit to Ark team for their hard work but instead Lisk just copying little by little without giving credit. What a shamed and embarrassing this have turned out. It's ashamed to the crypto community as whole because 99% are doing this, they have invent nothing, just copycat and call their blockchain the best world class. This is world class copycat. https://www.reddit.com/r/Lisk/comments/bzw21l/moosty_a_new_tool_to_kickstart_your_lisk/ |
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Ark also need listing on Bithumb and Krakken  |
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So they've changed it to July 10? It still says June 11 we'll be able to deposit ARK. I don't have an account in DOBI so I can't test it, but if you're interested you can go see if ARK is available for deposit. Trading should open tomorrow (in about 19 hours). They keep changing around. I don't have account with them and don't plan to have one but I do hope other people do. The more people and the more volumes the better. I will change my mind if I do see great volumes there. |
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