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2 400 Eth raised out of 7 700 with 14 days to go, IEO is likely going to be a success as I anticipate investors rushing in the next few days to cash in on the token sale. La Token is a good exchange so all systems seem like a go!
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The IEO on Latoken is only 25 days away, I hope this token goes to the moon and never return back  30m raised out of 50m with about a month to go! |
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Buy low, sell high is the golden rule but when is the low and when is the high? That's the fine line that every investor must master and walk like a tight rope performaer- with balance!
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I think on contrary to popular belief the crisis will not happen, and I mean barely. The more trump is the president the more wars going on (economical warfare of course) and that means everything will go badly but in 2020 there is elections and I feel like there is absolutely no chance trump will still be a president, hell he may even go to jail after his presidency is over.
However, just before he leaves the office he will probably do one big huge thing that will screw everything up, remember the bush times and how he screwed the economy and Obama had to come in and had to fix the economy? Well, same thing will happen this time around as well, trump will screw the economy of the whole world with his tiny brain and than some democrat will come in and fix everything up.
I wouldn't put re-election past Trump yet, past experiences have shown that it is folly to expect Americans to make rational decisions when it comes to leaders. 'The Donald' represents something that most Americans have been praying for a long time- A leader who can speak their true intentions on their behalf in public, yes they can mock and show disapproval of his views in public but I am sure they applaud him in the privacy of their bedrooms. We are likely to see them show their gratitude in November 2020. |
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The ICO fundraising model is now outdated, people can't just keep on pumping dead tokens into the market where demand is almost zero and expect a different result. Firstly, startups should only come into existence to solve real-life problems not imaginary ones. The build first and wait for users strategy we keep witnessing is not sustainable and dangerous for crypto. The golden question should be,'' What problem are you trying to solve?''
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I just received some of the tokens I've promoted in the bounty campaign, some of these coins reach their soft cap or able to generate funds in their ICO stages but I was disappointed seeing all these coins down 90% or no buy order at all when it hit the market.
And to think some of them included in their promotion that they will not let the price go down in their ICO price, do you think it's still worth investing in ICO if there is no uncertainty that you will a make a profit, or is it because Bitcoin dominance left no room for new coins to grow in the market?
I think what we could be seeing now are the telltale signs that the tokenomics bubble has bust! The dotcom internet companies vs current token/ICO craze has been brought up a lot in the crypto space. It’s an easy comparison. But it is also very much a lesson of supply boom in the absence of demand. During the dotcom era, there were many startups that created an immense supply of services for an unknown number of “users.” Artificial demand was manufactured through media outlets, analyst reports, and ultimately the very buyers themselves who imagined the pending need for all of these web applications. Build it and they will come they would say. But the only people that came were bankruptcy attorneys. Office furniture and computers became cheap. Lease prices fell. Capital dried up. And finally, the market for 0 value services was 0. This might as well be the story of the ICO and its tokens. |
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I don't think that ICO market is dead but the big selection will be made. At one moment so many new coins appeard all the time but their background and perspective on the market was bad and everyone was only looking for quick profit.
That is changing, we will probably escape the flood of new ICOs but I think the quality and investment potential will be better.
Only 11 projects (I mean ICO) turned to be successful, while over 90% of the other ones were found to be fraud or scam. ICOs are not trusted anymore, but they are not dead yet. Probably, their leaders will find the best way to get out of the dip. For now, people trust IEO as at least, they feel that their funds are protected by exchangers. However, time will show if they are as safe as they seem to be. I agree with you there Data from TokenData, an ICO tracking site shows that 142 of the startups that launched ICOs in 2017 failed at the funding stage while another 276 eventually faded into obscurity or simply took the money and ran. I think whether they take the ICO or IEO route, startups need to know that the odds of making it are really slim therefore they need to fully understand how to make it in such a crowded space. In a study released in January, Ernst & Young said more than 10 percent of funds raised through ICOs were either lost or stolen in hacker attacks. Even as fraud can occur for investors, cybersecurity remains a legitimate threat to all interested parties. Ernst & Young reviewed 372 ICOs which raised a combined US$3.7 billion. Of that amount, US$400 million stolen were stolen funds. It’s easy to get caught up in the hype, with a kind of innovation FOMO, however, it’s clear there are a lot of bad or poorly thought out token startups. You need expertise, talent, great marketing and great market-fit timing to succeed with a product that can scale your token startup to becoming ubiquitous with a vision that investors can relate to. The odds are against you if you are a crypto startup, you exist in a sea of blockchain startups where the winners win big and most of the losers go home fast. |
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BULL'S GROUP - always putting money into the market and does not take out often, more like long term investor.
BEAR'S GROUP - always taking money out of the market often, more like only interested in making money in a short while, i mean short term investors.
I am in either of the two groups, I view bitcoin as a transactional mode other than an investment avenue because of its high-risk status. It might make sense to a speculator in the game for a quick buck or someone/group with a long term strategy where they just buy and hold for a long term like the Winklevosses |
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he is great guy but legend??? why??? because he received bitcoins from the team of satoshi , this is make him legend and dont get me wrong he is great guy but ...he didnt make bitcoin go viral its fact, ... because if he was part of the team he never will be in the front to receive first bitcoins its can lead to others and other shit even after all ask expert security everything can be traced on the internet...everything ,only 0.002% know to be truly anonymously and its impossible to trace them and its not done with tor ...its different few smart experts explain this on github how its done. satoshi team used this way to publish the papers its was not with tor... hel finney is far away from to be legend compare to people like edward snowden, Chelsea E. Manning, Daphne Caruana Galizia(which was killed because she exposed real things and was received* the info from groups of people under one name**) there are bunch others legends the punk marketers that work on making bitcoin viral are legends who know if they part of team satoshi or not...its unknown.... hel finney isnt punk marketer and didnt make bitcoin viral its fact not theory...he is not marketer...and without top marketers it was not happen so fast and even die. edward snowden was saying that peer to peer file sharing can make financial freedom because bitcoin peer to peer is not new tech and far away from new tech, its mix of techs that was out there,,,bitcoin came from peer to peer file sharing with twist called block--chain peer -- blockchain -- peer not only edward snowden said that peer to peer will financial freedom also few others which i not goint to say names but smart people know to get to this because everything can be traced on the internet... and they said it way before bitcoin came... some say bitcoin created by banks or governments or agents which this theories come from the most dumb people , this kind of people will also say supply dont affect price and other shit but let look from sharp logic way why?? 1. bitcoin came from peer to peer file sharing decentralized tech...bitcoin is peer to peer with twist which called blockchain.. 2.why peer to peer file sharing was created what the reason for decentralized tech...very simple, before peer to peer file sharing there was few central servers that hold the mp3,video,movies,software,info and other things and the govermnets pretty fast locate them and shut down them, then people became more smart and create peer to peer file sharing...which each computer is the server that upload and download....which mean the governments now with decentralized tech need to shut down more then 500 million private computers and its impossible...some peer hold mor info some lees its the nature of decentralized tech compare distributed tech where each peer equal in holding to other in some sort of level... search on google: decentralized vs distributed 3. peer to peer tech come most of the time from activist 4. bank,paypal,visa and bunch other its central tech what was before peer to peer which is decentralized...visa,banks,paypal and others everything go througe centralized servers/entity and this is how they control and make money and know everything about us which lead us to fact not theory they dont behind bitcoin, because peer t peer put them out from the chain...which mean no middle man, so simple. 5. the same with governments its centralized entity and everything is interconnected with banks,paypal, and other....in the moment peer to peer tech enter you put them out of the chain...in other words its the first time we write history. after all this all the centralized entities are paid by money paper. satoshi is team on a global scale...edward snowden is part of an international huge team without salaries like agents or politicians and other its mean they know to make money and be undepented, he escaped from usa to china , there people waited him to hide him,,,there are alot like him they just underground to fully and some expose them and dont fear any agents and 0ther shit even they know they under huge risk. Edward Snowden comes was the most early Bitcoin adopter https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2463&v=PVN13ad3UUk 2019 he admit this......41:00 min hal finney is great guy but compare to the marketers that make bitcoin viral and people like edoward and bunch other he is nothing its fact... this is are the legends ... you cannot change facts and everything cam be traced over the internet. I once read somewhere that, ''A wise man once said.....nothing'' What you have written here is your take on the matter, fair and fine and I respect that but for you to try and belittle someone's achievements while they can longer respond to you....... thats a new low! |
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Well!! I have heard that 1xbit is offering a wide variety of cryptocurrencies
I personally have never used them before and i don't think i will ever try using them. They might be supporting a wide range of cryptocurrencies but that won't help if your money gets stuck in there. It won't do any good if you get scammed. So i would prefer safety first... but if it's the amount of money you are ready to lose then your are free to risk it. Yeah, I agree with you!! you know what risk is everywhere. More importantly, people are making a lot of money in 1xbit, which triggers me to jump into 1xbit They say we miss 100% of the shots we do not take, right? I think if you are convinced in your risk assessment that you can succeed then take the plunge, win or lose either way you will emerge from the experience with a story to tell Try it yourself and give us feedback here on this thread. Good luck mate! |
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Is there a demand out there for the coins/tokens that companies and startup are churning out every day?
The market for initial coin offerings (ICOs) looks like its basically dead, is it likely going to resurrect again? What we see is that market players are spending much of their time focused on finding new ways to deploy new supply of tokens, but not focusing much on long term drivers of demand. However, there are natural limits to the market's ability to absorb an endless supply of tokens, there is a limit to how quickly we can push supply into an increasingly saturated market.
Do you think the ICO is really dead?
If not, where is the market headed?
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why we should do KYC to trading on cryptocurrency exchanges given the fact that crypto came about out of the need for people yearning to stay anonymous .
not all cryptos mate . there are cryptos that are not anonymous while most are just partial anymous like for example btc . its still possible for someone to track you and know your balance or your name by using an explorer . when it comes to kyc , you dont really need to do a kyc before you can trade because there are those decentalize exchangers that you can use and there are some centralized exchange that dont require a kyc . Read the whole post again, I am sure you missed the point that I was trying to make there. What you have quoted is just the intro to my post and I was just trying to outline what I thought was the problem with KYC in crypto before I read more into the subject and grasped the gist of it. Re-read I am sure it's all there! |
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It used to boggle my mind why we should do KYC to trading on cryptocurrency exchanges given the fact that crypto came about out of the need for people yearning to stay anonymous from governmental financial tracking of transactions online. But then for exchanges to conform to regulations in countries where they operate it seems like they cannot do without KYC especially where the movement of large sums of money are involved. KYC ( Know Your Customer) refers to a process that banks and other financial institutions use to gather identifying data and contact information from current and potential customers. Its purpose is to prevent fraud, money laundering, and other illicit activity, as well as the misuse of financial accounts. As for the benefits of KYC to crypto, KYC helps in reducing and eliminating money laundering and financial fraud, remember Silk road. Also, there are fears around the world especially in security circles that funds moved and exchanging hands anonymously can end up being used to finance terrorism and extremism activities. BUT if one wishes for ways to circumvent KYC, you can diversify your portfolio of crypto holdings to different exchanges. That is, if you’re not comfortable to give away your KYC data to any exchange, the solution is for you to separate your funds into different exchanges. This is possible because most exchanges provide daily 2 BTC withdrawal for non-KYC users Also as a rule of thumb, you don’t want to keep all your eggs in one basket. (Even if the basket is the BIGGEST baskets in the world  Binance) That’s another reason for you to separate your portfolio into different exchanges. |
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Hy there guys ! Peace & Love to all of you !!!
I just heard Dan Pena saying that he knows 100% who's behind Bitcoin and that if you would knew you would run and sell !!! That if you knew who was behind Bitcoin you couldnt sleep at nigh !
Opinions !?!
S/COULD/SHOULD be important for the BTC World ?!?
I don't find the opinions of snake-oil salesmen like the likes of Dan Pena that substantial when it comes with making sound investment and business decisions. There is a lot online about what he says but a lot less about how he made his money... is he really worth 50 billion? If yes, how did he make it? Obviously, you can't make 50 billion by giving talks I am yet to find evidence to convince me that Dan is not a work of fiction. |
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The success of digital wallets in the African continent was really great and based on what I've read on news articles about it, it really helped the economy and the businesses when it all started years ago. With this in mind, will Africans be welcoming of bitcoin/altcoin as a real currency and not just a quick way to earn cash or invest? Like using it as real money / cash? Africa doesn't just need any other cryptocurrency out there, Africa needs a stable and dependable medium of exchange. Africa is a continent where governments still fall via coups and ''revolutions'' as in the case of the recent Arab Spring wave and the November 2017 coup against Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe. Corruption and civil disorder is still rampant and is one of the key barriers to development. Economic Stability in Africa is an oasis enjoyed by a few countries. Currencies have been known to lose value in a whiff and people’s savings wiped in the wink of an eye. Cryptocurrencies do offer a solution as an investment and savings haven in such cases but most cryptocurrencies that we use today such as Bitcoin and Ether have no underlying assets to back them. As a result of wild speculation, greed and lack of investment management experience people have lost out when they try to adopt and use them. This is evident in the collapse in prices and market capitalization of cryptocurrencies experienced in late 2018 as well as the emergence of scam ICOs that took investors’ money and ran exposed problems buried within the DNA of these coins and tokens. I would bet on Facebook's Libra making it in Africa above all other cryptos because it promises to solve most of Africa's problems. I have previously written about how Libra is going to disrupt Africa in this article published by The Startup. |
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You can only bump your personal posts once in 24hrs and you must make sure that you delete your old bumps before posting a new one otherwise you might risk getting permanently banned by bitcointalk. Its important to stick to the forum rules.
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Anonymity is good until you lose your hard-earned money to some faceless character online, one way or the other the crypto market will have to open up to regulation.
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I think most people are losing their hard-earned money chasing “the next Bitcoin”, by focusing on ICOs. The time for ICOs has unfortunately ended and even the now highly touted IEOs will not cut it. What is needed now are tools that investors can use to consolidate and track the performance and value of a selection of underlying top cryptocurrencies according to reputable tracking websites like coinmarketcap. I would rather invest in an index that contains the top to coins on coinmarketcap that risking on some shitty ICO.
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