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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! on: May 25, 2018, 08:31:55 AM
"The 1060's fan seems to want to spin up, but then doesn't and seems to have this constant fan jiggle/wiggle like it's trying to start up. "

Theres your tattletail right there.  You dont haven enough power available from your one 1000w to power all those cards, motherboard and hard drive.  The jerking motion of the fan is a symptom of not enough output of the PSU.  

Before overclock and undervolting

(6) 1070 @ 150w ea =900w
(2) 1050 @ 75w   ea =150w
(4) 1060 @120w  ea=480w
Total 1530w.

You are well over the 1000w rating of the PSU. In your post you mention that you got another 1000w PSU so if you are running 2 we need know what all you have connected to PSU#1 and #2.  Dont forget the motherboard, cpu/fan and hard drive all draw power too. Most use 200w for those combined as a value when figuring out a mining rig setup.



If he has another configuration it would be best to actually test that GTX 1060 and get confirmation that card is working normally outside this rig. That rig is little to big to make test on it before he can test all non working components outside of that combo.


Nah. I have 2 of these motherboards (3rd is on the way) and ive seen his symptoms.  He has a PSU overloaded.  The stereotypical sign is the fans herking and jerking, red on the PCIE status boot up screen for the slots affected .   6 of those 1070s AND the motherboard powered by just one 1000w PSU and you have an overloaded PSU.  He needs to split he 1070s up by powering 3 of them to each PSU.
Heres what I would do....
PSU 1
(3) 1070 @150w =450w
(2) 1060 @120w =240w
(2) 1050 @75w   =150w
Total 840w

PSU 2
(3) 1070 @150w =450w
(2) 1060 @120w =240w
Motherboard @200w
Total 890w

And of course after overclocking and undervolting (Reduced TDP for Nvidia cards) the total power draw will be even less.
I would use TDP of 65% and +150/+500 for the 1070&1060 cards and 75% TDP and +150/+500 for the 1050 TI cards. This will reduce power consumption substantially without slaughtering hash rates. These settings have worked well for me.  My rig#2 is all Nvidia cards (1080,1060,1050TI) and its stable as hell.
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I shut it down tonight boys. on: May 25, 2018, 06:39:59 AM
Are you still yapping troll?

If you could read AND comprehend you would see where I stated I pay 4.8 cents /kwh. So its still quite profitable kid.  And there is no difference between profitable now or profitable later.  Its still profitable.  Just because "you" cant afford the fronting of the power bill doesnt make it not profitable.
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! on: May 25, 2018, 03:02:05 AM
"The 1060's fan seems to want to spin up, but then doesn't and seems to have this constant fan jiggle/wiggle like it's trying to start up. "

Theres your tattletail right there.  You dont haven enough power available from your one 1000w to power all those cards, motherboard and hard drive.  The jerking motion of the fan is a symptom of not enough output of the PSU.  

Before overclock and undervolting

(6) 1070 @ 150w ea =900w
(2) 1050 @ 75w   ea =150w
(4) 1060 @120w  ea=480w
Total 1530w.

You are well over the 1000w rating of the PSU. In your post you mention that you got another 1000w PSU so if you are running 2 we need know what all you have connected to PSU#1 and #2.  Dont forget the motherboard, cpu/fan and hard drive all draw power too. Most use 200w for those combined as a value when figuring out a mining rig setup.

84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: DPS-1200FB power supply eating 10w without any load, normal? on: May 24, 2018, 04:59:28 AM
Did you forget about the CPU, CPU Fan and SATA for the hard drive?
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Can regular people mine anymore on: May 24, 2018, 04:56:41 AM
Looking at how much the price of BTC (and many others) dropped $600 today or so my guess is Mt. Gox Trustee sold off some more BTC.  And ive also been noticing a substantial increase in mining amount (daily) for me on equihash and DaggerHashimoto.  My guess there is alot of have abandoned ship on mining equihash because of the impending shipments of ASICs next month.

This is a common misconception. Mt God coins never hit an actual exchange.

There are billions of dollars in the OTC markets for BTC and that's where the coins are mainly sold.

They are sold privately and usually sent to an individual wallet and haven't moved since.

If the coins were sent to an exchange and sold off we would easily be able to trace which coins and which exchange.


I cant dispute anything you said.  But I also didnt say anything about "where or to whom the trustee sold of to.  It is factual that if you look at both times (that are known) when the trustee sold off BTC, what did BTC value do?  It took a slight nose dive BOTH TIMES.  Yesterday sure looks like the 3rd time.
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining , still worth it? on: May 24, 2018, 04:53:40 AM
I think mining still worth and profitable. Because until to day i always get the coins.
But if your asking about get a lot coins, i think not worth. Because my hashrate not to much as others, so i just get small coins. But the way i still enjoying to mining and the result can be trade at market exchange.
Because of that, i can tell you mining still worth. Not how much we can get but what can we do for the coins. Smiley

But if you compared then your electricity costs and investment on hardware you can realize - it'is not. It is just for fun.
Troll alert! This clown is trolling the threads hard today!
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I shut it down tonight boys. on: May 24, 2018, 04:51:44 AM
The OP shut it down and I added MORE gpu's,  One of us screwed up...and it aint me. Wink

What is the price of your electricity?
4.8 cents /kwh

Mine is double what his is ... I never shut anything down.  If the OP was paying 25+ cents per kwh, then I can see why he decided to get out.  Shutting rigs down isn't the right thing to do though.  Either keep them running or sell them.  Shutting them down and letting them sit is one of the worst ideas.

You are such a funny boy. Mining at 10 cents/kwh is not profitable at all. It's just a waste of time and bit money. Better try fishing or smth like that Smiley
Let me draw it out in crayola for you.  You mine... You mine coins of whatever altcoin.  You hold until value goes up.  You then sell when the value exceeds what it cost you to mine.  Its not really difficult amateur.  And whats this "funny boy" crap? Im a grown man (47 next month).  You seem to be the one with the mind of a kid and the financial experience of a 5yr old.  You need to do some more reading across the net and comprehend what you read and learn from it.
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Can regular people mine anymore on: May 24, 2018, 02:07:38 AM
Looking at how much the price of BTC (and many others) dropped $600 today or so my guess is Mt. Gox Trustee sold off some more BTC.  And ive also been noticing a substantial increase in mining amount (daily) for me on equihash and DaggerHashimoto.  My guess there is alot of have abandoned ship on mining equihash because of the impending shipments of ASICs next month.
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! on: May 24, 2018, 01:56:44 AM
Hello,

I am hoping someone may be able to offer insight in to where I am going wrong.

Current setup:
 
- Asus B250 Mining (latest bios as of 2018)
- 12 powered pci-e risers (all tested and all work)
- EVGA GQ 1000 PSU & EVGA G2 1000 PSU
- Intel i3-6100T (35W dual core CPU)
- 8 GB HyperX Kingston Technology FURY 2400MHz DDR4
- smOS running off of a USB thumb drive
- EVGA 1070 ti FTW2 x 3
- EVGA 1070 ti FTW x 2
- EVGA 1070 ti black x 1
- EVGA 1060 SC (6 GB version) x 2
- EVGA 1060 (6 GB version) x 2
- EVGA 1050 SSC (4GB version) x 1
- EVGA 1050 (4GB version) x 1


I currently have the EVGA 1000W GQ PSU powering the 24 pin connector for the A bank as well as the cpu. I have the the 8 GPU's starting in A bank and going to B bank. I also have the second PSU powering the 24 pin connector for the B bank. 

I have made sure that PSU A is powering the GPUs in the A banks, and that PSU B is powering the GPU's in B banks.

My issue involves getting more than 8 cards recognized. I currently have all of the 1070 ti's and 1050's running (8 cards in total). The issue is when I try to add the 1060's the pci-e slots that have the 1060's show that there is an error, and the cards fail to spin up. The 1060's are all good, as they were working before I added four of the 1070 ti's I now have.

Might someone be able to help with something that I am missing? I have seen people running the ASUS 250 with only Nvidia cards (up to 12) but my board doesn't want to allow me to run more than 8 nvidia cards Sad

Thanks in advance Smiley

My rig #2 is running 13 nvidia gtx cards.  Did you install each card one at a time and reboot and wait for it to showup in device manager as operating properly BEFORE hooking another up to the motherboard?
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alernative power generation for mining. on: May 23, 2018, 06:48:53 PM
Hell a 3kw solar system wont even power my rig #1 and #2 let alone Rig#3.
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Can regular people mine anymore on: May 23, 2018, 05:54:36 AM
Im a regular guy and I have 28 GPUs strictly for mining.  Im in it for the $$$.  I play the coins and I mine for BTC earnings(not to be confused with mining BTC) when Im too tired to research what to mine any given day. Maybe ill get rich, maybe I wont but Its fun scaling up.  Building another mining rig this weekend.
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoin mining using mobile phones on: May 23, 2018, 05:48:39 AM
Have two words for...Duty Cycle.  Google it.   A phone is not designed to be running 100% of the time at 100% cpu load.  Too much heat is generated.  The microelectronics on the main board do not deal well with being constantly cooked. The phone will live a short life.
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My friend created A Quantum computer on: May 23, 2018, 05:45:10 AM
Lol. Reminds me of those Russian scientists who mined Bitcoins with Super Computers. I wonder how much Bitcoins those computers could mine.
Doesnt matter how much he mined.  The Russian Government took it all and he is still in jail if he is lucky. If he aint lucky then he is either working hard labor or dead.
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alernative power generation for mining. on: May 23, 2018, 05:42:54 AM
Interesting note about DC to AC conversion loss in relation to mining...
What Mining equipment uses AC?
Your Power Supplies plug into AC and are then converted to DC (Via Rectifiers) and voltage dividers lower the DC to the different DC voltage rails that are needed to power CPU, SATA, PCIE, etc. Aytime you convert ac to dc OR lower the voltage there is loss which is in the form of heat.  That is why you wont find a 100% Efficient Power Supply.
Stack up on 12V batteries and feed them with the solar panels (yes, batteries are not free or risk free etc...).
Not so fast.  There are Battery costs to take into account and then there is their life expectancy and needing replaced to make it even costlier.  Even Deep cycle batteries lose their life expectancy if cycled to less than half of their charge.  When that happens they will never be the same again.  Its all downhill from there.  Do you want to babysit your system all of the time?



A normal residential Solar roof have about 30 year lifetime and a 10 year ROI here in Scandinavia.
In a high tax situation you don't pay tax on self-generated power.
In the summer we have surplus die to 18-20 sunhours per day, so we can use some to drive more cooling fans
In the winter we need some of the heat so the bought in power is not that costly (and the solar give some as long as you remove the snow from the panels).
What about winter? Dont exactly have a surplus of light then now do you? Winter will cause your solar output to drop like a rock to near zero.

Would you buy 20K worth of GPU's on a 30yr loan?
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My friend created A Quantum computer on: May 20, 2018, 03:49:01 AM
My longtime friend that I have known from elementary school has always been a computer genius.  Thats basically all he did growing up. He was always tinkering with tech and anything new.  He's kind ofl ike a modern day Tesla. Well after a few years without contact he claims to have developed a fully functional quantum computer.  He will be bulding more but the scary thing is how he was telling me how it will basically destroy the mining market.  I couldn't keep this a secret but he estimates he will be mining over 90 percent of newly generated bitcoins once he gets everything up and running.  Basically he can destroy the entire network if he wants to

I am quite worried and I don't know of his whereabouts as of yet.
Where did you find this wicked strain that you are smoking? Is it legal where you are at?
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I'm glad I didn't buy any more video cards, a 1080ti barley makes $1 a day on: May 19, 2018, 11:03:44 PM
I quoted the IRS website. It's very clear. You guys are such nub tards and still in disbelief. It's been well known for awhile and the veteran miners know this as well.

Coins mined is instant income tax. If you made a loss from holding it like most people that mined last quarter you can sell it and report a loss in value for the next tax year.

You still have to report the all time high value you mined at as income
You scared of your own shadow?  As long as "you" dont cash out over the reporting threshold then the IRS will never know.  You think the IRS has the man power to come after or even look into someone that mine 10k or even 25k ?  They are looking for the whales.  The IRS has been gutted of agents over the last 10 years.  They simply dont have the manpower to go after the small times.

It all truly boils down to the worst case scenarios and that means NEVER talk to the IRS without a lawyer!
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I shut it down tonight boys. on: May 19, 2018, 10:59:31 PM
The OP shut it down and I added MORE gpu's,  One of us screwed up...and it aint me. Wink

What is the price of your electricity?
4.8 cents /kwh
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alernative power generation for mining. on: May 19, 2018, 10:56:40 PM
There is a partial solution to the problem. If you do run a small mine(5kw) you can pay off a grid tied system fast. As you don't have batteries which is one of the major cost of a solar system.

You will need about 20 300w solar panels and a +6kw inverter. Depending on where you live you might be lucky and get on average 6h of full sun per day.

5kw mine will use 30kwh over 6h perday. So at a cost of 0.18 per Kwh you don't pay the utility $5.4 per day. That is about $2000 per year.

Such a system would set you back $10k. So your return on capital would be about 5 years.

You are assuming the solar equipment will last 5 years.  Anything in the system dies and you are back in the black.  Front 10k to save $2000 a year, maybe...Ill pass.
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Alernative power generation for mining. on: May 19, 2018, 09:40:10 AM
There are so many reasons why it will not be profitable using solar to power mining rigs.  You most likely will be dead before your system (solar) achieves ROI.

(1) Upfront cost (Solar panels, switch gear, storage batteries, wire, space to put gear in)
(2) efficiency (you lose some of it when converting DC to AC)  There is no such thing as 100% efficient when it comes to power.
(3) The needed land area for all the solar panels.
(4) You better be oversized substantially when its night time!
(5) ROI on solar setup big enough to handle your power needs would be a very long time. (DECADES)


The common misconception is that (using a mining rig that draws 1500w of powers) you will only need 1500w worth of energy produced from your solar panels.  That cant be any further from reality.  Reality is that you will need a much higher solar output to produce 1500w worth of ac because of efficiency losses switching DC to AC.  Those losses happen in your inverter, batteries and cables.

Spending $5 to make a nickel is not logical.
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! on: May 18, 2018, 11:29:13 PM
So here's a little dumb question but i can't seem to figure it out...

I'm trying to run SMOS using usb stick but it won't even let me boot on it (goes straight to bios and say no bootable device found or something like that).

Do I need to change anything on bios?

P.S - I did follow SMOS instruction to flash my USB and it's 3.0 usb stick

Yes.

go into the BIOS, go under menu "Boot", I had to enable "Launch CSM" and change to "UEFI and Legacy OPROM" so that the system could boot to my SSD, or USB.
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