The very slow progress is annoying
Thanks for the update! It's good to see the project is moving forward, but yes, the slow progress is annoying. I really don't want to harass you about the progress, but trying to push and deliver sooner than later is critical. I understand this team and project has been very methodical, not rushing and trying to bring completely new things to the market from the beginning, still delivery in timely manner is important. So far you are lucky because the progress of other IoT and crypto projects, never mind IBM is even slower, so you are still in a primary position. It would be great if we could utilize on the failures of others. I think, the very bad shape of crypto currencies provide this project with a unique opportunity to succeed, but it could only happen if the platform start processing IoT transactions. I know you are working and the technology is close to the breakthrough, but as with any technology projects this final phase is critical, and keep pushing is very important. There isn't a need to rush. Have you ever developed something? When you get in a rush it isn't sustainable, and eventually your work will suffer. I get that you are impatient, but tell me how many other IoT hopefuls are working with W3C? Who is tailing Gadgetnet right now? You are wanting 'crypto scam dev' speed in the real world. I will happily buy your coins if you can't wait. It's quite unfortunate that my post indicated that I am having any doubts about this project. It's really not the case - quite the opposite. I understand the developers how good software engineers are, they are honest guys with integrity and vision to provide solution for the booming IoT field, and I have no doubt something really promising is being developing here. Since I fully subscribed to the plan of charging the users $10/GadgetCoin as well as I believe the business plan is clearly doable, I can see the potential of W3C, I am looking for a 3,000% ROI with GadgetCooin/GadgetNet as the minimum target, and therefore I am certainly not selling GadgetCoin at this stage. You are absolutely right terms of the scam devs vs. this project. These guys - with the skills they have - could easily roll out a BTC or LTC fork, make an IPO and then collect the money, rinse and repeat several times like many other devs have been doing that process for a while. Instead of the GDC devs have been spending their own money, free time at nights and weekends to create a solution from scratch by taking the risk which involve with such a new software development. When all those many hundreds BTC & LTC clone coins will be gone, then GadgetCoin/GadgetNet will be one of the few that remain to be exist. (In order to make that happen, the team needs to be consistent in delivery, which I am sure they will be, I just was reminding them about the importance of timely delivery). As for have I developed something, actually yes, quite a few software in the last 20-25 years, you can imagine how many software a person could develop during such time frame. I could be wrong, but the most important what I have learned is that we always need to push as hard as we can in order to succeed in this industry. And yes, you are absolutely correct that we need to be patient and understand that the devs work part time at this stage. I am very happy to be one of the supporters of this project. Very small community, but very good people like yourself, zsp, tobeaj2mer0, albert_mt, Netzer and all other supporters, it's a great community and as we are just at the beginning it will be even better. All together, I am really positive about the Devs and GadgetCoin. Glad to know we see it the same way  |
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The very slow progress is annoying
Thanks for the update! It's good to see the project is moving forward, but yes, the slow progress is annoying. I really don't want to harass you about the progress, but trying to push and deliver sooner than later is critical. I understand this team and project has been very methodical, not rushing and trying to bring completely new things to the market from the beginning, still delivery in timely manner is important. So far you are lucky because the progress of other IoT and crypto projects, never mind IBM is even slower, so you are still in a primary position. It would be great if we could utilize on the failures of others. I think, the very bad shape of crypto currencies provide this project with a unique opportunity to succeed, but it could only happen if the platform start processing IoT transactions. I know you are working and the technology is close to the breakthrough, but as with any technology projects this final phase is critical, and keep pushing is very important. There isn't a need to rush. Have you ever developed something? When you get in a rush it isn't sustainable, and eventually your work will suffer. I get that you are impatient, but tell me how many other IoT hopefuls are working with W3C? Who is tailing Gadgetnet right now? You are wanting 'crypto scam dev' speed in the real world. I will happily buy your coins if you can't wait. |
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all of a sudden my masternode doesnt work anymore. i kep seeing :error could not allocate vin for collateraladress
2 hours ago my mn worked great. what could happen? my configfile isn"t removed or anything.
Make sure your wallet is unlocked for staking. |
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As a large holder of NAUT I have a vested interest in keeping the supply in check.
So you did use your "period of silence" and undelivered promise after undelivered promise to become a large holder. You should be in jail. Idiot, even the poorest of investors could have become a 10% holder of NAUT over past year if they wanted to and a few people did just that. What better opportunity could you possibly want? NAUT was the easiest investment of all time if you had any brains and balls. A real banker told you he was gonna do great things and then the price of his coin dropped down to a penny for everyone to buy all they wanted on the open market. If you didn't buy it's not BK's fault but your own so grow a brain and some guts and don't miss the next easy one. Actually, the next easy one is NXTNAUT - or do you think a major banker like Brian Kelly is gonna try to go live and then multi national with a 7 cent coin? Hahaha - it doesn't get easier than this, man. Buy now cause it's going up 20-50 fold from here very soon. You sure he is a banker? ...... I made much more trading than I would of buying NAUT at 3k, but nice try attempting to pin my opinion on jealousy. All I am saying is that the way he did this is incredibly sketchy, have you read his book? He straight up said IN THE BOOK that he wrote it to save his BTC investment. He purposely ignored supporters for 9 months while failing in amateurish ways. I am just noting that this is scumy as hell, that's all. I do it with many coins that don't add up. Its just unexpected that you see this out of Brian Kelly. |
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As a large holder of NAUT I have a vested interest in keeping the supply in check.
So you did use your "period of silence" and undelivered promise after undelivered promise to become a large holder. You should be in jail. |
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UPDATE
The software development is progressing and the new features (trade integration to sell coins from the wallet, company share management, etc) will be released early next week. There are many very exciting developments in the software front and we hope the community will be happy with the progress which was very slow in the summer but we will try to speed everything up from now.
With regards to business matters, the legal structure of the decentralized company has been finalized. This was a very slow process but finally the bank account of our US company was opened yesterday and it is ready to process transactions for the sites (jizzmo,, streemo). Due to the fact that we are not US citizens the dealing with IRS as well as the bank account and company set up process was very slow. Why in the US? We thought being a presence in the United States is very important. We have already contacts in the Silicon Valley and once the platform is operational we believe that will be an interest from US based Venture Capitalists and US angel investors. These investors are normally reluctant to invest in a foreign company.
As it was posted in this thread before, the VICR owners will be having shares in the decentralized autonomous company. Please note, as we stated it many time this is not a public offering of securities, that's why we have never said anything specific about this except that we would be glad to form partnership with our supporters. The VICR investors took a gamble in buying VICR contracts, we recognize and appreciate that and we intend to create a business structure that rewards the early stage investors with a well deserved ROI.
We propose the structure will be the following:
a) The current shareholders of the company are the developers and VICR owners. At the start of the process only developers and VICR owners will be having shares, but later when the VICR GDGC gone, the shareholders can sell their shares without any restrictions.
b)There will be a decentralized autonomous company (DAC) which is a virtual entity. The DAC will be the main platform for making decisions with regards to company matters. The company handling from investor viewpoint such as voting can be done in the wallet.
The ownership, voting and messages are verified by the digital signature of the GDC account holder. All decisions of the DAC will be enforced by the physical company. For instance, if the shareholders decide via the DAC to pay US$ 0.001 per share dividend for the fiscal year then the physical company will enforce this decision by paying out the money.
c) The shares in the decentralized autonomous company will be directly correlated with the shares of the physical company. That means if the wallet indicates you have e.g. 1,000,000 shares then the same amount of shares will be registered for you - directly under your name or via delegates in case of anonymous holding- in the share register of the physical company.
d) There are two physical companies, which are already legally registered in he US, lets call them here company A and B.
Company A is doing the actual business with jizzmo, streemo and all IoT technology projects. Company B holds 100% ownership in company A. The reason of that so we can put forward company A to bring in further VC or angel investments. (VCs and angels wouldn't deal with many individual owners). Therefore, the VICR owners will be allocated with shares in company B, but company B will own 100% of the shares of company A.
e) All intellectual property rights and income rights with regards to GadgetNet, GadgetCoin, jizzmo, streemo, etc. will be solely assigned to company A, but again effectively company B and its shareholders will own everything.
f) The ownership in company B could be anonymous or associated with the personal details of the shareholder. If the VICR owner provide name, address, phone, email, etc details in the wallet then company B will keep the personal details associated with the shares in the share register. If the VICR owner wish to be remain anonymous then that's fine - that's one of the main purposes of having a DAC. In case of anonymous holding the ownership will be managed and guaranteed via a delegate account. The representatives of the delegate account will be elected by the community and developers. At the beginning the developers will handle this task, but the objective is to elect the representatives as soon as it is possible.
There is no need to be making a decision right now whether the shareholding is anonymous or not. The VICR owners can provide the personal details at any time in the future to ensure the shareholding is recorded in the company's share register if they wish to do so. We let the VICR owners decide whether they will be holding the shares anonymously or not. One of the main advantage of a virtual decentralized autonomous company that it allows anonymous shareholding via the cryptographically verified ownership, on the other hand many rights and actions in the real world could be enforced with personal details only (e.g. to inherit the shares). We think the delegate system will provide sufficient security terms of ownership and presumably the system will be tweaked as we will be taking your suggestions on board.
g) Company A has 100 shares which owned 100% by company B.
Company B is having 1,000,000,000 (one billion) shares. Currently 50.1% of the shares is owned by the developers.
30% of the shares is owned by nobody at this stage and it is allocated to bring in further investment.
20% of the shares will be distributed to the VICR owners. That means each GadgetCoin is entitled the owner for 2,000 shares. For example, if you have received 1,000 GDGC with the VICR contract then there will be 2,000,000 shares allocated in relation to the VICR contract. Since there is circa 97,000 GDGC exists, all owned by the VICR holders, there will be almost 200 million shares allocated to the VICR owners which represents roughly 20% ownership in company B. The number of shares is directly associated with the coins received via the VICR contracts.
f) Since the forging will be disabled until the VICR GDGC was gone if you sell the GDGC then the shares will be transferred to the new owner of the coin. Once all VICR GDGC gone then the share sell/purchase function will be enabled in the wallet so the shares can be sold at any time and price.
Please let us know if you have any questions as well as your opinion, we can discuss it in PM, at Slack or here in the public thread and your suggestions will be taken on board to come up with the final structure.
Sounds great! I will let you know if I have any questions. |
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Thanks for the update! You continue to impress. Don't worry too much about getting on an exchange, especially during this time of uncertainty with the bitcoin fork. You are doing exactly what you need to be doing. Like I said before, any coin would kill to have what you have going.
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Devs, on the note of network fee, what is the plan terms of determining the network fee once GDC is listed on the exchanges? Shouldn't the GadgetNet system lookup the exchange price and set the network fee to a higher value than the exchange price is? I think, the network fee should be always a bit higher than the average exchange price.
We have been discussing this within the team and it seems there are two options 1) Do nothing about the network fee price, let the market determine the price and allow end-users buy the coin on the exchange and pay the network fee using the purchased coins 2) Control the price by enforcing rules via network fee collecting smart contracts. In this case the end-users must pay the network fee using an automated process in which the GDC price set by a system process, and the coins purchased on the exchanges cannot be used to pay the network fee. As we said earlier in this thread we think No. 2 is the better option. No.1 could cause lots of complications like theoretically it is possible that there won't be any GDC available for network fee payments because the whole coin supply is held by a very few users who don't sell the coins. To avoid such complications we will propose a pricing algorithm to determine the network fee related GDC buy back price. A simple algorithm like this could be used for the pricing: NfCp = Ep * 2 <= Lp ? Lp : Ep * 2where NfCp refers to network fee related coin price Ep = exchange price Lp = last NfCp price, but will be set to 5 at the start of pricing Using this pricing mechanism the network free related and automatically enforced price will be a) never less than US$ 5.00 due to the last price variable set to 5 at the start of the pricing b) always at least twice as much as the all time high exchange price c) it cannot be less than the previously set value, so regardless from the exchange price, once the price reach for instance US$ 15.00 then the price later won't be less than US$ 15.00 The exchange integration requires lots of modifications and work, it takes away resources from other tasks, but we understand the community requested it so it must be done. The plan was to do the exchange integration later when we have a robust platform, but we started it earlier and it's almost done. I agree that option 2 is the better option. The only thing I can think of is on the first day it hits exchanges someone could do a fake buy from themselves at whatever price they want, setting a fake GDC fee price. I do like the idea of being on an exchange, but if it is time consuming then don't worry about it, it is low priority compared to everything else. |
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Dude for the last time Ben Affleck got the role for batman, I know you want it, but you are going to have to wait a decade. |
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No, again you are failing to understand the simplest meaning of words. I have posted that, as per his own admission to me, he was being paid. That is what I posted. Which is what I know to be certain (that he told me that, in writing, not if it was true or not). Is that clear enough? Whatever the implications, they are not being made by me, but by him and quite clearly. If he lied to me, he lied to me. No way for me to know, is there? Now, if he so much as hint as the possibility of this not being true, I will produce the PMs instantly.
Hopefully you will now have 2 things perfectly clear: 1.- That I do not lie. and 2.- That I NEVER, EVER, lie.
You are trolling so hard right now, he already said its not true. Go "produce" the PMs. |
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you are not just an interested investor but a paid one -and quite handsomely- by the developers of GDC
No. The GDC developer nor anybody from GadgetCoin paid nothing for me. Not even 1 cent. I paid to them by purchasing VICR contracts. :-))))) in fact quite a lot. Therefore, as I stated in this thread many times I have financial interest in this project and apart from the fact that I am crowdfunding all kind of projects like Skycoin, Tilecoin to support the technology, I would like this project succeed for financial reasons as well. I said several times openly in this thread. As for your payment and offer matter, I approached the devs that lets do business together and I outlined what can I do for them if I have a part from the project, I offered investment and many other support if I could have income from the project via the broadcasting revenue. The developers probably not even considered this, but one thing is sure the developers and me never came to any agreements regarding any collaborations, my offer never gone further than an offer from me, and as I said the GDC developers paid not even 1 cent to me. You can say whatever you want about me, but don't be unfair with the developers who have done nothing but performed publicly which they promised in private regarding the blockchain, VICR, wallet, etc. As I have posted and since it is my rule of conduct, I never, ever, lie. Therefore I cannot say "whatever you want about me", unless it is the truth. If you insist in lying, I will be forced to post here the proof. Last chance. Your call. It is the final act......... Shakespeare himself never thought that a actor so many years in the future and so late in life would take his work to such a level. It as almost as if this quote: "What a piece of work is a man! how noble in reason! how infinite in faculty! in form and moving how express and admirable! in action how like an angel! in apprehension how like a god!" was written about barrabas himself! It sure is strange how the greats predict the future isn't it? I digress. We have a play to return to. In walks BARABBAS: (this really is a photo of barabbas from when he was doxxed)  BARABBAS: O villany! Ho! let the door be lock'd: Treachery! Seek it out. LAERTES: It is here, Barabbas: Barabbas, thou art slain; No medicine in the world can do thee good; In thee there is not half an hour of life; The treacherous instrument is in thy hand, Unbated and envenom'd: the foul practise Hath turn'd itself on me lo, here I lie, Never to rise again: thy mother's poison'd: I can no more: the king, the king's to blame. BARABBAS: The point!--envenom'd too! Then, venom, to thy work. Stabs ALTCOINUK. All: Treason! treason! ALTCOINUK: O, yet defend me, friends; I am but hurt. BARABBAS: Here, thou incestuous, murderous, damned Dane, Drink off this potion. Is thy union here? Follow my mother. ALTCOINUK dies. |
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you are not just an interested investor but a paid one -and quite handsomely- by the developers of GDC
No. The GDC developer nor anybody from GadgetCoin paid nothing for me. Not even 1 cent. I paid to them by purchasing VICR contracts. :-))))) in fact quite a lot. Therefore, as I stated in this thread many times I have financial interest in this project and apart from the fact that I am crowdfunding all kind of projects like Skycoin, Tilecoin to support the technology, I would like this project succeed for financial reasons as well. I said several times openly in this thread. As for your payment and offer matter, I approached the devs that lets do business together and I outlined what can I do for them if I have a part from the project, I offered investment and many other support if I could have income from the project via the broadcasting revenue. The developers probably not even considered this, but one thing is sure the developers and me never came to any agreements regarding any collaborations, my offer never gone further than an offer from me, and as I said the GDC developers paid not even 1 cent to me. You can say whatever you want about me, but don't be unfair with the developers who have done nothing but performed publicly which they promised in private regarding the blockchain, VICR, wallet, etc. As I have posted and since it is my rule of conduct, I never, ever, lie. Therefore I cannot say "whatever you want about me", unless it is the truth. If you insist in lying, I will be forced to post here the proof. Last chance. Your call. OMG I spit coffee everywhere while failing out of a chair that is pure gold. I see your problem now, acting was never your calling, it was always comedy! Now, please, post your truth (remember truth requires proof) and go ceaselessly bump something else. |
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Let me put it to you in bold so you GET IT: As far as peer to peer transmission is concerned, there's NO DIFFERENCE, between live video streaming and video on demand. Get that or should I repeat it?
The original video, be it live or previously recorded, still has to be encoded just the same and, if made available -again: IN BOTH INSTANCES-, to different platforms, encoded in several resolutions.
It was explained many times in the last few weeks that in step one, in order to serve Flash clients and to start the service soon as it is possible, the jizzmo and streemo sites would have to use a hybrid model utilizing RTMP nodes. Streaming live is quite different than streaming video on-demand using RTMP servers. Dev, I wish you luck.
Thank you! We also wish you find the coin, community and developers which meet your expectations! OK, since you insist, I will have to repeat the bolded statement: Be it streaming live or streaming recorded (VOD), for the purpose of transmission over the peer to peer network, it is EXACTLY the same thing: Both instances require the video to be encoded for such purpose. The delivery also has the same exact requirements... and pitfalls for both will depend of the strength of stability of the network AND, also, the quality of the peer serving the encoded stream. For instance, if the stream is held, at any given moment, by a device -mobile or otherwise-, whose definition is low, no matter who is receiving that stream or which quality it was delivered previously, that individual would receive the video in the max quality that device provides. Furthermore, if the peer who is serving the stream, disconnects, for whatever reason, voluntary or otherwise, the network will look for another peer to continue the stream... with the consequent interruption of the stream. Not that any of the retards blinded by greed here would even pay any attention to these small details, but for you to finally address the difficulties inherent to the peer to peer video stream model and let the truth come out, that is what, in plain English, is the main -but not the only, y any stretch of imagination- problem in the implementation of the free, peer-to-peer model of video, or live video, streaming. Anyone who has ever downloaded anything on BitTorrent has already experienced exactly those pitfalls as they were at the same time downloading and uploading the data (and video, whether live or recorded, is encoded to be data files), hence why some popular downloads were quite fast while some rarer ones would takes weeks, months or never actually complete. I believe after this the average "armchair commentator" will have a much better idea of what are the more than potential shortcomings of some of the stuff you are planning on achieving. Once again, good luck with it. Listen man, I get it, you doubt the effectiveness and even the plausibility of this project. That is fine. 100% fine. At the same time people don't line up and ask barrabas the great arbiter of blockchain, server, and p2p networks if their idea is possible. That's because you don't have the experience or knowledge to make the claims you are making. If you did you would be flaunting it. You are the armchair commentator. Anyone that disagrees with you is retarded and full of greed. I believe that they are on to something, and chose to invest. Do you have a problem with investments and risks? You do realize that a large majority of tech startups fail right? That doesn't mean they were scams, in fact failure leads to discovery. You think this will fail. I don't. Just because you think that doesn't mean its a scam. Come back when it fails and rub it in our faces. For now either make a well researched point without calling someone a retard, or give us a slight break from your toxic behavior. |
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Oh well, here comes the mumbo jumbo about terms used already for decades... ok, if you need a link to already made UML sequence, just google it. Make a couple of substitutions and it will p-ass m... with this crowd, I guarantee it.
Now, if getting on the door -on any door- is difficulty number one (even above actually having a flawlessly working product), when you present a blockchain-based system, try that people don't have a laugh attack when you address "robust security", ok? It's the very first thing anyone -let alone IT professionals-, associates with bitcoin, crypto in general and blockchain in particular, ok? Oh and before you start mentioning IBM again, let me tell you something before you are taken for a complete joke: When IBM calls -although they are usually called, not the other way around-, the decision-makers LISTEN, alright? When Gadgetcoin, -you know, those anonymous guys from northern Europe selling budget Chinese cameras- calls, well...what would you really do if you were in their shoes?
And enough of this crazy stupidity that is completely getting out of hand already again. I mean to have big ideas is nice and all. Positive. But when you want to come to the party 140 years too late, well ... you are probably not going to be dressed for the occasion, so to speak.
Moving on... what other "things" can you manage through the blockchain that can actually bring some innovation, and practical use, really AND, also, at least potentially, bring in some though? You think Cisco is going to get worried because you may get a byte of their video conference cake any time soon? You REALLY believe ANY company in the planet is going to trust their data to GDC? Come on...
I suggest you read the white paper, you have huge misunderstandings about the project. In fact, I haven't done my good deed for the day, and I question your literacy, so why don't I read it to you over Skype? I have a feeling you need someone more along the lines of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Sullivan but I am willing to try. LOL when you read you can give him a toy phone, while he is listening he can call to his friend Jamie Dimon the chairman of Chase to discuss the next billion dollar investment. haha Sometimes I dress up as Jamie Dimon for him so he can put a face to the imaginary friend. |
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Oh well, here comes the mumbo jumbo about terms used already for decades... ok, if you need a link to already made UML sequence, just google it. Make a couple of substitutions and it will p-ass m... with this crowd, I guarantee it.
Now, if getting on the door -on any door- is difficulty number one (even above actually having a flawlessly working product), when you present a blockchain-based system, try that people don't have a laugh attack when you address "robust security", ok? It's the very first thing anyone -let alone IT professionals-, associates with bitcoin, crypto in general and blockchain in particular, ok? Oh and before you start mentioning IBM again, let me tell you something before you are taken for a complete joke: When IBM calls -although they are usually called, not the other way around-, the decision-makers LISTEN, alright? When Gadgetcoin, -you know, those anonymous guys from northern Europe selling budget Chinese cameras- calls, well...what would you really do if you were in their shoes?
And enough of this crazy stupidity that is completely getting out of hand already again. I mean to have big ideas is nice and all. Positive. But when you want to come to the party 140 years too late, well ... you are probably not going to be dressed for the occasion, so to speak.
Moving on... what other "things" can you manage through the blockchain that can actually bring some innovation, and practical use, really AND, also, at least potentially, bring in some though? You think Cisco is going to get worried because you may get a byte of their video conference cake any time soon? You REALLY believe ANY company in the planet is going to trust their data to GDC? Come on...
I suggest you read the white paper, you have huge misunderstandings about the project. In fact, I haven't done my good deed for the day, and I question your literacy, so why don't I read it to you over Skype? I have a feeling you need someone more along the lines of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Sullivan but I am willing to try. |
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stupidity
very clumsy, uneducated way,
Regarding the other retard -if people of minimal basic intelligence were involved- s Just what level of inconceivable stupidity are you from?
incredibly idiotic retard, new kind of stupid, impossible to qualify for your levels overflow any previous measure.
Yes you clearly are a person that uses logic and reason as his sword, piercing the naivety of lesser intellects, never stooping to the level of emotion and personal attacks. |
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Now how about the convenience of those cameras from China, ah?
Would you like to receive a camera and try the application which is developed to industrial end-users? Please PM your address and phone number and we will be very happy to ship a device to you, create an account for you so you could evaluate the technology. Thank you for the offer but why don't you explain to me, clearly, exactly in what way would this be profitable for your future DAC? Because this is already in use, and has been for more than a decade, in all kinds of industrial uses, from traffic and weather services to banks and cities in general, not to mention law enforcement, prisons, detention centers... where is the PLAN to make money out of it? It is FREE already. I am sure I am missing something here... but you will be kind as usual to illuminate me on the possibilities. And I am assuming -but I am sure you have all that covered-, some kind of insurance is involved against vandalism, weather damages and the like. Installation, it goes without saying, will be left to the purchaser which, naturally, will be experts at it... While you are at it, please let me know how you propose the DAC to be a profit point for Gadget investors. Also some more specifics of the PLAN, such as carrying the books, file taxes and actually taking care of all internal deployment, control and administration. I understand that guy, Tardi, will take care of simple orders, but what happens when there has to be 24/7 customer service, administration personnel, implementation and distribution personnel... because, as you keep on pointing out, this is not just (let me put that "just" in quotes) a few models here, a bunch of gamers there, a control of content so the authorities don't just close the shop, but constant search for IoT venues, such as there cameras... also, again, explain to me how you can make money of things that are already in use and have been for many years, completely for free. For instance, anyone with a smart phone can control the temperature of his refrigerators from across the world, not to mention the thermostat of his/her air conditioning, record TV programs etc... all for free. How do you beat FREE? Again, I'm sure I'm missing a lot here, but confident you have all bases covered. Once I have all that explained clearly to me, I would gladly test these cameras that have been selling for years and, frankly, don't require your software at all for they come already equipped with everything necessary to connect them to your internet... Once again, I am missing something here but will be anxiously awaiting for your clear explanations and willing to get on the phone with Jamie Dimon himself to get this -and the enormous savings it will bring to him- implemented at every Chase office nin the planet. Now you are arguing that IoT will have no place in the world. If you would stick to your legitimate concerns you would find that people would take you seriously. Credibility is not a problem I have... to your chagrin. And I am not arguing, I am honestly (what a word ah/ if only you would have the slightest hint of what it means...) asking for clarification. Let me put it to you -and above all, others with more... lights, shall we say? Yes, people could sell stuff to each other on the internet... some even do. And yet, if people want to sell their stuff, they have to do using Amazon, and paying the hefty fees that go with it, or eBay, and paying not only the hefty fees but also the fees of PayPal. I know you believe that people is stupid for doing that, of course but, as in so many things, you are dead wrong. But I digress... All my concerns -about this project- are quite legitimate... as opposed to your perceived interests. I never said that people are stupid for using Paypal, or ebay. You seem to think I am shilling this project. Go find a post where I am shilling, please. Also ebay and paypal fit into this.......how? Are you suggesting that because I am interested in cryptocurrency I believe that anyone not using it for low fees is stupid? |
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Now how about the convenience of those cameras from China, ah?
Would you like to receive a camera and try the application which is developed to industrial end-users? Please PM your address and phone number and we will be very happy to ship a device to you, create an account for you so you could evaluate the technology. Thank you for the offer but why don't you explain to me, clearly, exactly in what way would this be profitable for your future DAC? Because this is already in use, and has been for more than a decade, in all kinds of industrial uses, from traffic and weather services to banks and cities in general, not to mention law enforcement, prisons, detention centers... where is the PLAN to make money out of it? It is FREE already. I am sure I am missing something here... but you will be kind as usual to illuminate me on the possibilities. And I am assuming -but I am sure you have all that covered-, some kind of insurance is involved against vandalism, weather damages and the like. Installation, it goes without saying, will be left to the purchaser which, naturally, will be experts at it... While you are at it, please let me know how you propose the DAC to be a profit point for Gadget investors. Also some more specifics of the PLAN, such as carrying the books, file taxes and actually taking care of all internal deployment, control and administration. I understand that guy, Tardi, will take care of simple orders, but what happens when there has to be 24/7 customer service, administration personnel, implementation and distribution personnel... because, as you keep on pointing out, this is not just (let me put that "just" in quotes) a few models here, a bunch of gamers there, a control of content so the authorities don't just close the shop, but constant search for IoT venues, such as there cameras... also, again, explain to me how you can make money of things that are already in use and have been for many years, completely for free. For instance, anyone with a smart phone can control the temperature of his refrigerators from across the world, not to mention the thermostat of his/her air conditioning, record TV programs etc... all for free. How do you beat FREE? Again, I'm sure I'm missing a lot here, but confident you have all bases covered. Once I have all that explained clearly to me, I would gladly test these cameras that have been selling for years and, frankly, don't require your software at all for they come already equipped with everything necessary to connect them to your internet... Once again, I am missing something here but will be anxiously awaiting for your clear explanations and willing to get on the phone with Jamie Dimon himself to get this -and the enormous savings it will bring to him- implemented at every Chase office nin the planet. Now you are arguing that IoT will have no place in the world. If you would stick to your legitimate concerns you would find that people would take you seriously. |
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To this date, I DO NOT BELIEVE PayCoin was a scam.
This is the equivalent of saying "I DO BELIEVE the world is flat." |
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GDGC and GDGT may be good tickers to replace GDC and GDT.
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