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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 09, 2014, 03:17:01 AM
Low payout today but really doesn't have to do with difficulty lol
that shit is not changing in a day or a week.

overall value took a shit today, thats where your low pay came from.
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 08, 2014, 11:03:44 PM
What's more likely? a dude from china who made a botnet that infected a bunch of people, or a guy has a secret underground chip for hundreds of thousands in investment, that still is less than impressive for altcoin mining? lol
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 08, 2014, 09:36:42 PM
The pool is def getting too large.

With someone hashing 500, that's just insanely suspicious, and it actually effects our payouts as well.
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 08, 2014, 09:21:33 PM
Who else thinks the guy with 500Mh/s has setup a botnet on hundreds of computers??

Def.
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 08, 2014, 08:50:34 PM
Seems like a very bad day today so far-
+1

I went from 4Mh/s to about 4.7Mh/s last night and today is on pace to pay about 20% less than yesterday.  No significant change to immature/unexchanged either.

0.034-0.035 BTC isn't what I was expecting for 24hrs of 4.7-4.8Mh/s of hashing power. 

Why dont you do something about it then .. With that hashrate on RPC you would have got .1BTC without doing anything lol

What's RPC?
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 08, 2014, 07:27:14 PM
Seems like a very bad day today so far-
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 07, 2014, 11:37:17 PM
So I had a power failure overnight and one of my rigs had zero power when i turned it back on...It's a good 860 seasonic platinum.
I didn't have a surge protector on it so i figured it fried...

I tested both outlets with a box fan and both plugs in the outlet worked...


get home from work tonight, put all my rigs on surge protectors, and the machine powers up fine...lol

anyone ever seen anything like that before?
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 07, 2014, 04:43:32 AM
Very bad payday tonight...
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 06, 2014, 09:34:01 PM
at $65 for 60khash, that's horrible lol
Power consumption is awesome, but overall price for hash is nothing special at all.

Thank god.
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 06, 2014, 04:38:27 PM
http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/1M3jtksp1upR33SX1VzeCfH5x9fc6zKykR.html

How are people hashing that much? Are these generally companies? I can't even imagine an individual with 500+ GPUs
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 06, 2014, 02:45:48 AM


How is the 7950 and 280x king when the 270 uses less power?

I think he is referring to KH per Watt

Yup... there are plenty of cards out there and integrated Intel GPUs that use less power... but aren't worth crap for their hashrate.

So the 7950 is still king when it comes to KH/s at its power consumption rate.  Especially when you use one of Lantis' scrypt bin files for cgminer and if you undervolt with the .967v firmware.



Ah, gotcha-
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 06, 2014, 12:17:06 AM


that's some sick hash right there.
That would be about 26 mining rigs with 4 R9-270x cards in each. (about 25k worth of hardware)

Do you have a secret to building cheap rigs? I'm not being sarcastic, just really wondering how it is possible to build a 4x270x for under a grand.  by my calculations:

4x270x Rig   
ram   $25.00
processor   $42.00
mobo   $60.00
psu   $210.00
hd/memory stick   $20.00
# of gpus   4
gpus total cost   $800.00
hardware (rig/case)   $30.00
adapters   $30.00
   
   
Total   $1,217.00
$/KH   $0.68

Always interested in info regarding cutting down costs on rig building.

Considering 3x290x rig in comparison:
3x290x Rig   
ram   $25.00
processor   $42.00
mobo   $60.00
psu   $210.00
hd/memory stick   $20.00
# of gpus   3
gpus total cost   $1,887.00
hardware (rig/case)   $30.00
adapters   $30.00
   
   
Total   $2,304.00
total KH   $2700
$/KH   $0.85

so actually seems to be cheaper builds on the 270s, obviously costs would go down with more cards, if u compare 7 cards u get:
7x270x = $0.61/KH
7x280x = $0.66/KH
7x7950 = $0.76/KH
7x290x = $0.80/KH

I find this interesting, I had just assumed that 280x was best due to everyone saying it was next best to 7950s.  Obviously this doesn't consider power consumption, but i believe the 270x are pretty light on power anyway.  But obviously you would need a lot more cards to make up the same hashing so maybe power consumption is a big factor.



270 is one of the best for the $. They use little power, and they run very cool.

For the cost, you can substitute a $4 milk crate instead of a case, a PSU like the seasonic 860 goes for $185, and you can even find 270's for $180.

270 is potentially best when not factoring in power consumption at similar hashrates for the total rig.  In that case, when power use/cost is a consideration, 7950 is still king and 280x comes a close second.  So if you've got free power, but don't have the capital to go whole hog with a set of 290's, go for the 270.... but if you're paying for the sparky sparky stuff, then you're better off finding used 7950 or new 280x.

How is the 7950 and 280x king when the 270 uses less power?
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 06, 2014, 12:07:04 AM


that's some sick hash right there.
That would be about 26 mining rigs with 4 R9-270x cards in each. (about 25k worth of hardware)

Do you have a secret to building cheap rigs? I'm not being sarcastic, just really wondering how it is possible to build a 4x270x for under a grand.  by my calculations:

4x270x Rig   
ram   $25.00
processor   $42.00
mobo   $60.00
psu   $210.00
hd/memory stick   $20.00
# of gpus   4
gpus total cost   $800.00
hardware (rig/case)   $30.00
adapters   $30.00
   
   
Total   $1,217.00
$/KH   $0.68

Always interested in info regarding cutting down costs on rig building.

Considering 3x290x rig in comparison:
3x290x Rig   
ram   $25.00
processor   $42.00
mobo   $60.00
psu   $210.00
hd/memory stick   $20.00
# of gpus   3
gpus total cost   $1,887.00
hardware (rig/case)   $30.00
adapters   $30.00
   
   
Total   $2,304.00
total KH   $2700
$/KH   $0.85

so actually seems to be cheaper builds on the 270s, obviously costs would go down with more cards, if u compare 7 cards u get:
7x270x = $0.61/KH
7x280x = $0.66/KH
7x7950 = $0.76/KH
7x290x = $0.80/KH

I find this interesting, I had just assumed that 280x was best due to everyone saying it was next best to 7950s.  Obviously this doesn't consider power consumption, but i believe the 270x are pretty light on power anyway.  But obviously you would need a lot more cards to make up the same hashing so maybe power consumption is a big factor.



270 is one of the best for the $. They use little power, and they run very cool.

For the cost, you can substitute a $4 milk crate instead of a case, a PSU like the seasonic 860 goes for $185, and you can even find 270's for $180.
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 05, 2014, 06:22:24 PM
Yes, using a ASIC miner :-). Got 4 of them.

Your nick fits perfect - lot of mimimi in your posts:)

1. you ask for an fix as you have 200kH an lot of powerbills
2. short after the fix is out you told us that you aspekt many rejected on the us server (170 ping), i can say that i dont have that many after H2Os fix (ping 210)
3. now you have ASIC and noone know that there is such thing for scrypt

whats next ? Smiley



1. true
2. true, strange you don't. Check my new address on http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/1JDHL5WhHNrg4HrNksnF7S1ChGVYYUkjVC.html
3. There i was just kidding. Man, what did I got a lot of PM's :-D Tongue


that's some sick hash right there.
That would be about 26 mining rigs with 4 R9-270x cards in each. (about 25k worth of hardware)

Your math is a bit off: 4 * 26 = 104 * 450 kh/s = 46800 kh/s. 

lol oops

ur right

jesus. Who in gods name has space for 82 4-GPU rigs???
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 05, 2014, 06:04:57 PM
Yes, using a ASIC miner :-). Got 4 of them.

Your nick fits perfect - lot of mimimi in your posts:)

1. you ask for an fix as you have 200kH an lot of powerbills
2. short after the fix is out you told us that you aspekt many rejected on the us server (170 ping), i can say that i dont have that many after H2Os fix (ping 210)
3. now you have ASIC and noone know that there is such thing for scrypt

whats next ? Smiley



1. true
2. true, strange you don't. Check my new address on http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/1JDHL5WhHNrg4HrNksnF7S1ChGVYYUkjVC.html
3. There i was just kidding. Man, what did I got a lot of PM's :-D Tongue


that's some sick hash right there.
That would be about 26 mining rigs with 4 R9-270x cards in each. (about 25k worth of hardware)
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 05, 2014, 05:47:35 PM
A lot of the alt coins have got very sick indeed recently. Whether it's the recent run up in BTC price, or something else, I don't know.

For example, I have been mining CSC as a backup for when middlecoin goes down, if I don't want to mine on the EU server. Yet, something has happened to cut the CSC/BTC exchange in half today.  Lots of other alt coins showing long slow crashes in price too.

The US server is a bit happier than it has been, but that seems to be a reflection of the coin situation. Over the last few days, there has been massive fluctuation in difficulty and value of many alts, causing lots of crazy switching from one coin to another.

I don't think the server bug is that high of a priority at the moment, because of the change in coin situation.

However, I would like to make the suggestion that H2O offers an "experimental" server. This could run the most recent test version of the pool, and people could try hashing on it, for a "real world" test of whether the fix is helping or not.

Finally, I came across something very concerning regarding middlecoin. I was testing a new Wifi connection from a local provider (as a backup to wired connecrtivity). It turns out that they block middlecoin - if you try to access the web page, you just get a message - "This site has been blocked. Reason: Contains images of child abuse, or links to child abuse/pornography". I tested access to the pool ports, and they were all blocked as well. I'm guessing that this is a false positive. However, I did call the wifi provider's tech support to ask, and they said, they simply said that they can't unblock it because of illegal material.

The problem seems to be that some overaggressive filter is finding something it doesn't like. I wonder if maybe one of the bitcoin addresses in the list has been implicated in something illegal. Perhaps there might be some benefit in part censoring the addresses, or purging idle addresses from the default list.


eek, that could definitely be an issue
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 05, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
btw can the owner of http://www.bfpcoin.com/middle-coin-web.php please fix his stats-

Looks like when the btc value goes above 1k, it sets it to $1 instead, which in turn screws up all the stats below it.
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 05, 2014, 04:33:51 PM
Mimiminer that an awesome hashrate!!!! Cheesy my respect can you pls tell me how you set up that much ? Is that about 170  R9 290X in one motherboard ? xD or are scrypte asics outnow Huh

Yes, using a ASIC miner :-). Got 4 of them.

bullshit

Agreed.

Proof pls
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 05, 2014, 04:21:10 PM
Wow look at the tantrum. Why would someone keep mining on a pool where they thought they were being ripped off?? If I wasn't reliably making more than ltc mining, converted for me, with daily deposits, I'd be gone. Until those daily payouts don't show up, or there is a significant divergence from the outputs of my single coin pool rigs, I don't see it as a scam. If it was a scam, it is big enough now to pump the total btc output for a few days and be happy for a very long time.

What makes you think that because he is posting on this forum, he is using the middlecoin pool?...
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - middlecoin.com on: January 05, 2014, 05:49:15 AM
Most of us have spent good $ on these efforts. I would bet that almost everyone here are still not profitable.
I make daily profit from the US server every day i've mined here, so let me know what you bet.  

if you are losing money on 4% fees + 0.6% inefficiency, your margins are too slim to justify mining.  

Who said anything about losing money?

Not profitable does not equal losing $.

Many here have recently started, myself included. Weather you are running 100Mhash, or 1 MHash, it still is about 1-2 months before break even.
ok i understand better now, but you originally were negotiating for a cut-rate pool fee % becuase of the 0.6% discrepancy.  If you're talking about break-even, you're not suggesting middlecoin should subsidize your investment, are you?  

the reason i pay the pool fee is becuase i don't want to deal with exchanges, and i let the farm do its thing.  the reason i stay is becuase middlecoin somehow outperforms.  even when the US server was having issues, i was still making more here than on my litecoin farm, and my multipool farm.   middlecoin also hasn't suffered the recent DDOSes that hashcows went through, either, meaning the uptime is another big seller.  there are lower percentage pools you can join if you feel the 3-4% pool fee is too onerous for you.  

Please see where my comment came from.

I said my post due to the comment on the individual being happy that we get money for "nothing".
We are certainly not doing "nothing" for $. We have all invested in this project, and we are all in it for money.
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