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81  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Illegal content in the blockchain on: August 11, 2011, 11:23:43 PM
A more simple example (and quite made up) is if you apply the correct cyptographic key to this post you will get a defamatory statement (with is illegal).  Is this post therefore illegal?
Depends on the jurisdiction and what the court rules. For a defamatory statement it would be worth the risk, but would you want to take the risk of uploading child porn given the life-ruining consequences of even being accused?

I think that this is a very real risk to the current system.
82  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: My impression of Bitcoin so far on: August 11, 2011, 05:02:02 PM
It shouldn't be impossible for someone to set up a secure JavaScript based wallet service where your keys are encrypted by a client-side password. You'd lose everything if you lost your password though
83  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin bounty website on: August 11, 2011, 01:12:03 PM
  • A developer that has done some work on a bounty can post his initial work to prove that he is working on it; it might be that this still requires rework, but moderators can "lock" the bounty in his name so no one else can claim it in the meantime.
Yes but only for a short time, depending on the trustworthiness value of that developer. Maybe have milestones for larger projects.
We'll also have to watch out for scumbags submitting copyrighted code from other projects as their own and it being released under an incompatible license.

Each bounty must have a "due date", by which the posters get back their escrowed money if there is no initial submission by then
Yep, I'm thinking that each project has an address and we just post the funds back to the address that sent them, so there's no need for people to register accounts to donate. Completed projects would have new funds posted directly to the person who completed the task. Not sure about new funds, maybe new funds being added should re-open / extend a project, or maybe they're just posted back to the address that sent them.

They system should have a (primitive) discussion thread on each bounty to discuss requirements etc.
I think the requirements should be set in stone when the project is created. We're dealing with donations from many people who are donating because they agree with the requirements. This is horribly bureaucratic but IMO the only way to do it fairly.

Registration / authentication simply using OpenID
Absolutely, I hate sites that force me to sign up with a new password, almost as much as I hate having to store user passwords! Cheesy

Thinking of security, would it be possible to write the platform in a way which prevents the site owners, moderators and any intruders from having access to the funds? For example we could encrypt the private key with a "project key" (owned by the site) and a "sponsor key" (one sponsor per donation address, potentially many per project). Once the site moderators agree that the requirements have been met, the project sponsors enter their key and the funds are released. Or maybe something is possible using scripting?

This would have the down-side of projects running forever and funds potentially being lost if the sponsors disappear, as we couldn't close a project without knowing the sponsor key. But it would IMO be a better option than running an escrow site given all the recent hackings!

Maybe we should ask for this topic to be moved to Project Development?
Yep that would be good Smiley
84  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Freedom Newsletter! on: August 10, 2011, 07:13:26 PM
History, culinary advice, astronomy, architecture and physics are pretty interesting subjects. Far more interesting than war, poverty and all miserable things.
85  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wallet security ...Would this work ???? on: August 10, 2011, 06:10:11 PM
Yeah that should work. However, in a few years time the wallet format may have changed.

You'd be much better off just backing up the private key for the address (on paper), then importing that into your current wallet several years in the future.
86  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: comments please! on: August 10, 2011, 12:32:15 AM
I was just kidding, but I fully reserve the right to shit in any thread that does nothing but links to another, specially if the thread being linked to is asking for money. Spam spam spam spam spam
87  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: comments please! on: August 10, 2011, 12:26:12 AM
We post a rig to a PO box in the Bahamas, right?
88  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin bounty website on: August 09, 2011, 04:00:52 PM
I already imagine the domains bitbounty.com or bitcoinbounty.com to be bought. Maybe even some .org/net ones.
I don't know if others are working on such a project, but I just registered btcbounty.net anyway. I'll do some hacking over the coming weekends and put the source on github.

Also, if I'm gonna step up and run this project then only free software projects will be eligible for bounty/payout, because I'm a dirty socialist like that Wink

@John Smith, I'm a Python hacker and FSF member. I've never done Python web dev (aside from writing my own webserver based on SimpleHTTPServer). Here's an example of my work in Python

Interested in working together?
89  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interesting article on Forbes about Gold, Swiss franc and fiat money on: August 09, 2011, 03:39:35 PM
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The Chinese buy our debt because U.S. Treasuries have a deep liquidity pool unequaled by other places the Chinese can invest there excess cash
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Treasuries have a deep liquidity pool unequaled by other places the Chinese can invest there excess cash
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the Chinese can invest there excess cash
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there excess cash
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Lern 2 English, Forbes.
90  Economy / Speculation / Re: Woo Hoo ! GO BABY GO ! on: August 09, 2011, 03:17:33 PM
Well.. we're still in the inflationary phase where new ones are created at the highest rate. I wouldn't be so certain that it's only up from here, in dollar terms. There may yet be periods where the dollar price drops before they resume the climb they will ultimately enjoy (which may be years away).
Agreed. Bitcoin won't be deflationary for many, many years. I did lose 1BTC over the weekend because I didn't have the balls to hold though. You win some, you lose some, either way gambling is fun Cheesy
91  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Possible Bitcoin Loss/Theft scenario/situations and solutions on: August 09, 2011, 03:10:39 PM
Situations
- Trojan/Wallet stealer also key logs so the password was already captured.
Potential solution for Bitcoin client: Use secure desktop to enter passwords (ala KeePass), which means they'd have to write a hardware keyboard driver to record the keyboard.
Potential solution for users: Store wallet in a KeePass database and set it to enter passwords on secure desktop.

Situation: Private keys are extracted directly from memory, despite an encrypted wallet and password entered on a secure desktop.

Potential solution for Bitcoin client: Store private keys in secure memory storage service. Only store the keys in memory for a limited time, blank the memory after use.
92  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin URL scheme: have any proposals been adapted? on: August 08, 2011, 01:01:42 AM
Alas, dispatching based on clicking the URL would need to be implemented on a per-browser basis Sad So don't expect this any soon.
It should be desktop environment specific, nothing to do with the browser:
Here's how to do it for Windows, Linux (Gnome/KDE), OSX, Android and iOS
93  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: August 07, 2011, 10:24:45 PM
Don't you mean "how can the professional miners hang on?"

As a casual miners I don't care about the electricity cost, hell, most nights my girlfriend leaves the TV on all night but it's not going to break the bank.
94  Economy / Speculation / Re: I know how to fix the crash. on: August 07, 2011, 02:14:16 AM
My teacup is full of clouds, a storm in fact. I'll buy up all your bitcoins once the price is low enough Cheesy
95  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much of a loss are you guys in? on: August 06, 2011, 11:52:37 PM
Is till have over 75,000 BTC on three flash drives in my desk drawer.

Stop bragging about your bitcoin stack.  You are going to make Bruce jealous get yourself robbed.
FTFY
96  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Want to save Bitcoin? Here's how YOU can help. on: August 06, 2011, 08:46:13 PM
Currently doing some Python hacking for BTC, and since the price drop I'm probably working for 10% of my usual rate. However, I'm having fun doing it; it's the kind of thing I'd usually do in my spare time for free, so I'm not losing out.

I encourage other developers to do the same with small projects, I'm certainly enjoying it Smiley
97  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much faith do you have in Bitcoin now? on: August 06, 2011, 06:52:56 PM
i think your going to get burned. next thing you know the price is higher then you sold at!

Not likely. There's been a downward trend for the last two months, which suggests that some early adopter is slowly cashing out. IMO the market can never reach high, stable prices in this situation.

Also the BTC supply is increasing by 200k a month (deflationary currency my ass, how much is being invested in the BTC economy per month?), mostly going into the hands of miners who are trying to recoup the cost of their mining rigs, with a large number of them living in their parents' basements and not having to pay for electricity.

Also I can't get burned since my entire investment was £30, I now have $300 and have mostly used my BTC for anonymous gambling. Even if I walk away with nothing I've had more than my money's worth in fun Cheesy
98  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much faith do you have in Bitcoin now? on: August 06, 2011, 06:27:52 PM
I've cashed out and currently waiting for the price to plummet further before I buy back!

I think they'll settle at around the price of the electricity required to generate them, plus their usefulness. At the moment this is what, about $6 each?

Hopefully once the price is stable and small, we can start actually using them instead of hoarding / speculating. Their future price depends entirely on how useful they are so if you're a speculator who wanted them to increase in value, you should have invested in developing some killer apps rather than playing the exchanges.
99  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Future World-Changing Megatrends on: August 06, 2011, 12:52:11 PM
Bedini Motor
Here's the patent info for the motor I believe you're speaking of:
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=7109671&KC=&FT=E&locale=en_EP

Looks pretty easy to build.

Violates conservation of energy. I can't work out whether TheGer is a clever troll or a total idiot
100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mybitcoin.com Press Release #2 on: August 06, 2011, 12:14:35 PM
I said this before, and it only applies if MyBitcoin's losses are at the "thousands" scale: I wonder if we can buy him out.

Let's say 10000 BTC got stolen. A trusted intermediary (the new administrative board + jury) could create a new asset on GLBSE with 10000 shares, each worth 1 BTC, so that the new company would be 100% publicly owned.

This way, everyone gets their money back AND we save MyBitcoin, which is IMO a valuable asset for the community. Otherwise, both will be lost. Plus, Tom Williams can stay anonymous. Win-Win-Win.

This is a good idea. We could rename it to "ourbitcoin" too Cheesy
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