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81  Economy / Goods / Re: buy beef with bitcoins on: March 12, 2014, 07:08:34 PM
Here are some pictures of the farm....
*removing picture links because quote would get huge*
Aren't you the guy who claimed to have bought from this guy before? Why do you have these pictures that the OP himself should provide?
Are you mixing up which one of your accounts you're posting with, OP? Wink

Also, you have no proof so far that those are your pictures
Hi
 I don't blame you for being suspicious. I can see your point. I will get some samples soon and perhaps that will allay some suspicion. I wasn't sure how to post the photos so I had a friend who is more tech savvy do it for me.
 Thanks for your interest and input so far.
82  Economy / Goods / Re: buy beef with bitcoins on: March 11, 2014, 02:56:23 AM
I think you should find a trusted escrow such as Tomatocage to use for this.

Next you need a price list. Something like:
#1 - Steak package A $xx
#2 - Steak package B $xx
#3 - Steak package C $xx
#3 - Roast package A $xx
#4 - Roast package B $xx
etc

Then people can just PM you with a list of what they want, such as:
"Ill take the following
2 - #3,
1 - #2,
4 - #4
shipped to springfield Il"

You can then forward that PM to your escrow contact. They will do the math and contact you and the buyer with a BTC address and amount that the buyer has to send. Once you see that the address received the coins, you can send out your meat.

Until you get your name established, i would be weary of using a website to buy meat.

Also i would price your meat in USD and then ask for BTC using the bitstamp rate. (that way there is only 1 number instead of a buy amount and a sell amount)
Or if you are going long on BTC you can just ask for BTC but this may seem risky with the volatility of BTC if you will be converting back to USD.

Try to find some hero members willing to try out your product and give a review. Also pics or a youtube tour of your farm would help your offer 1000%. This place is ridden with scammers from across the globe and if you can show you are legit, you will do well. 


 
Hey, thanks so much for your thoughtful input.. This is just the kind of advice I need to consider. I will get some photos up on a website and start looking into an escrow.
thanks again
83  Economy / Goods / Re: buy beef with bitcoins on: March 10, 2014, 10:11:49 PM
I raise pasture fed angus beef in Missouri. To buy with bitcoins directly from the farm, e mail me at andelinpaul@hotmail.com. I am working on a website. I think this is a quality product.

 

what chemicals do you use on your pasture? do you use glyphosphate for weed control?
do you cut your own hay? do you use chemical fertilizers? do you use a rotational paddock
system? does your ranch have any organic certifications?

smart to grow angus they bring the highest prices

I do cut my own hay but occasionally have had to buy some depending on the season. I think I have bought hay twice in the last fifteen years. I usually use poultry little for fertilizer but I have used commercial fertilizer on occasion.
  Some people do intensive grazing where pastures are rotated every few days. Although this does maximize pasture productivity, I have not done this as it is labor intensive and I have been concerned that the more crowded conditions for the animals may increase the chance of disease.
  I do not have any organic certifications.
  I do not using any hormonal growth stimulants.
  I have raised some of my own corn but depending on feed prices and pasture needs, I buy some corn as well.  I leave the calves on the mothers usually until about 7 months old. This depends some on the condition of the cow, weather stresses and so forth. I have adopted a program of weaning across a fence. This way it is less traumatic for the calf. The calf gets the emotional support of it's mother during the stressful weaning period. This has actually been shown to prevent weight loss associated with weaning. ]
  I try to control weeds with bush hogging but rarely have used commercial chemicals for weed control. I hav only sprayed a small portion of my property on two or three occasions in twenty years.
84  Economy / Goods / Re: buy beef with bitcoins on: March 10, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
I raise pasture fed angus beef in Missouri. To buy with bitcoins directly from the farm, e mail me at andelinpaul@hotmail.com. I am working on a website. I think this is a quality product.

Andelin,  if this is legit, I think this is really cool.  We need more agriculture involved with bitcoin.

I personally haven't bought meet from a grocery store for over a decade because I buy my meat directly from a rancher, or hunt and process the meat myself.

Just last Monday I purchased 1/2 a cow (340 lbs or something) and paid with bitcoin. 



I get a really good deal with a local rancher who is a personal friend, and at the moment my freezers are full, so I may not be a potential customer for you, but I do think there is interest in this.

As far as getting started, I think sending samples out to a few people that are interested, or if you send first and they pay after delivery, might be the best way to get started and build some rep.  Scams happen frequently here... be careful you don't get scammed as well...


if u will ship a free sample to hawaii ill just pm u my addy when needed thanks

Shipping might be expensive to ship to Hawaii, but notserp orders frequently from us, and I'm sure he would give a review for everyone on the forums.

I this is legit, I hope this becomes a successful business.  Good luck to you.















Thanks for the encouragement!
85  Economy / Goods / Re: buy beef with bitcoins on: March 10, 2014, 05:58:52 PM
maybe this is not a scam

you should use escrow dont send the meat first to just any member

i would try some free steaks but shipping might be alot to hawaii

Thanks for your input. I will ship you some meat to Hawaii and pay for shipping if you are still interested. I will plan to ship within the next two weeks if that is convenient for you. I will send you information regarding shipping to make sure the timing fits for you. I am interested in your  honest and candid assessment. If you are still interested please get me a shipping address.
 I am just starting with this concept of direct marketing so I am sure there will be some "bugs" to work out. Right now I am trying to assess interest in my product so your help is appreciated.
86  Economy / Goods / Re: buy beef with bitcoins on: March 08, 2014, 04:47:27 AM
Thanks for your responses. If any of you who responded want, I will send you a couple of sample steaks or roasts. It will be the week of March 16. I just need to get a shipping address. No charge for the meat and I will pay for shipping. It will be valuable for me as "market research" and, hopefully help with the issue of credibility. I will appreciate the feedback. I will have to see if shipping to Hawaii is possible and if so I will send you some there as well.
 How is the best way to get me your shipping address? Do you want to email me?
  Thanks for the in put.
87  Economy / Goods / Re: buy beef with bitcoins on: March 07, 2014, 10:14:44 PM
I have been raising beef cattle for over twenty years in southwest missouri. I had the idea of doing some direct selling of beef to the consumer. In the past, my cattle get sold at the local stockyards. I always raise my own for family use. Some of my friends have said that the meat is really good. This is actually the first time I have ever done a blog. I suppose I am a bit behind the times that way. I was actually interest in feedback as to suggestions. My son is helping me start a website at https://test.andelinlivestock.com. Does anyone think there would be much interest in buying beef for bitcoins? I thought I would put up photos of the farm, discuss details regarding how the animals are raised etc and perhaps some testimonials. Do you think it is important to be able to order directly on the website vs having a contact e mail or phone number. The meat is USDA inspected and would be shipped frozen. Any suggestions on how to guarantee satisfaction? I thought I could request payment after delivery. I am willing to take that risk since I imagine that most people are basically honest. How much lead time do you think people want on an order. Now if someone wants a side of beef, I make an appointment to haul him to the butcher, then they have to process the meat, which takes about two weeks. If I were to get a lot of interest I would butcher animals a head of time. I thought I woulf offer a significant discount for buying in bulk...that is 1/2 of an animal at a time. That equals about 250 lb of meat.
  Do you think I should offer some free steaks or roasts initially to provoke interest?
   What cuts are most people interested in? Current pricing plans are about 6.00 per pound for hamburger, 15.00 per pound for steaks and about 10.00 for roasts on average plus shipping. This is meat that, I believe to be superb quality. The calves are in the pasture. They are fed on grass, hay and some corn. The only antibiotics given are short term for illness. They do not go to a feed lot. They are treated as humanely as I know how. I raise angus cattle and I have recently started crossbreeding with the Maine anjou breed. Both breeds are excellent for meat quality and marbling.  The cross, I think , really leads to a quality product. Anyway, any advise on pricing? ? I plan to have the web site up and hope to be able to deliver in about 6 weeks.
  Any input from anyone interested is much appreciated, particularly in what I can do to built a reputation of trust.
  I became interested in bitcoin about a year ago. I noticed that someone in Australia is accepting bitcoins for beef...hence my interest
88  Economy / Goods / buy beef with bitcoins on: March 07, 2014, 06:07:11 AM
 I raise pasture fed angus beef in Missouri. To buy with bitcoins directly from the farm, e mail me at andelinpaul@hotmail.com. I am working on a website. I think this is a quality product.

 I  have been raising beef cattle in Missouri for over 20 years. I recently started offering  sale of USDA inspected Angus and Angus/Maine Anjou crossed beef directly to the consumer. These cattle are raised on the “family farm” from birth on open pasture. They are never “dry lotted”. They are never treated with growth stimulants. Antibiotics are only used judiciously and never close to the time of slaughter.
 Both the Angus and the Maine Anjou breeds offer superb quality. Crossing these two breeds yields excellent “hybrid vigor” and delicious meat on the table.
 Currently we offer different cuts of meat as detailed on our website  (andelinlivestock.com) and as noted on this thread above.
  We currently can accept BTC, litecoin, infinitecoin, and many other cryptocurrencies. You can pay directly on the website using bitcoin, or you can private message me to arrange payment with other cryptos.
  If you order beef by the side ( about 200 lbs) , by the quarter ( about 100 lbs) or by the eighth ( about 50 lbs) you may receive a considerable discount. Beef ordered in this manner is usually about 50% ground beef  30% roasts and 20% steaks.
  If you order far enough ahead, we can accommodate custom cuts of meat.
   The beef is shipped in insulated containers with dry ice. Delivery is in 2-3 days . Within the continental U.S. shipping cost is 25.00 plus 1.50/lb. Shipping dates are usually two times per month and are posted. If you need a shipment earlier than the usual time, please let me know and we will try to accommodate.
   There are several customer reviews on the thread if you want to peruse through. There are some photos as well.
  Please post or pm any questions.
  Thanks.
  
You may check out the website: www.andelinlivestock.com. Please pm me or email at andelinpaul@hotmail.com or message me through the website if you want to pay with bitcoin.
 Thanks,
Paul A
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