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81  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: August 02, 2014, 08:31:10 PM
Where do you get all the data?

From the universe.
82  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: August 02, 2014, 06:39:51 PM

Payouts are not instant anymore. Say thank you to the doublespend scammers.

83  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 18, 2014, 09:08:19 PM
is he not paying you because he didn't confirm you were in the campaign ?
That is kind of strange if it is the reason. You went on and did the posts like everyone else so why does it really matter.
Or is their more to the story ??


OH MY GOD HE PAID ME EXTRA, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im kinda jealous right now congrats on that though,  I dont think hes planning on paying me anything, so I guess My rep will stay, I guess others are free to leave theres or take it away.  

We pay for everyone who keep our signature until the 4th of June (time where payouts should be made), but actually even until 1st of June when we responded that everyone will be paid.

Why didn't you reply sooner? Is there a reason? You've been online, but didn't bother to inform them until today. Why?

What?

I've informed everyone that they will be paid at 1 June, 4 days before the payment date, and provided payouts to everyone who kept the signature until the 1st June.

Why are u lying ? U have details in the PM as u asked for. I can see the user is in your payout list. He showed your Sig even after July 1. Why r not u responding to the PM and holding his payment ?



And yes, I've checked again, no signature was been found in NewIndia user profile at the 1st of June.
84  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 18, 2014, 09:05:05 PM
is he not paying you because he didn't confirm you were in the campaign ?
That is kind of strange if it is the reason. You went on and did the posts like everyone else so why does it really matter.
Or is their more to the story ??


OH MY GOD HE PAID ME EXTRA, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im kinda jealous right now congrats on that though,  I dont think hes planning on paying me anything, so I guess My rep will stay, I guess others are free to leave theres or take it away.  

We pay for everyone who keep our signature until the 4th of June (time where payouts should be made), but actually even until 1st of June when we responded that everyone will be paid.

Why didn't you reply sooner? Is there a reason? You've been online, but didn't bother to inform them until today. Why?

What?

I've informed everyone that they will be paid at 1 June, 4 days before the payment date, and provided payouts to everyone who kept the signature until the 1st June.

Why are u lying ? U have details in the PM as u asked for. I can see the user is in your payout list. He showed your Sig even after July 1. Why r not u responding to the PM and holding his payment ?



"My actual ID is now temporarily banned... Hence I cant post/PM u." — we're not paying to any banned persons.
85  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 18, 2014, 09:00:49 PM
Transaction ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/7821d454e987a359c26b548141e6687ea66b94dc13795b1a73ccfc8aff29e0da

Still needing refund for the above payment (Under minimum).

Minimal bets are still a donation. We just plan to return transactions that are below minimum, but not implemented it yet.
86  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 18, 2014, 08:51:48 PM
Updown.bt, please review my earlier messages. Your site still hasn't processed the payments it was 'processing'... :\

Can you give me transaction ID?

I gave you the time in the system. Here are some examples:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7124cfad4fc011e62343d38327d55d402015bd93f558c9917b7ca282096201d9
https://blockchain.info/tx/09219873db9e309ff9442df08997aadfc880f9554ec4a249c9af7f3423bdbe04

Because of the lag in the system its pretty hard to tell which had the problem.

Both of the transactions you provided above are processed without any errors.

Processing status will be shown until we will get first confirmation, that may take pretty much time sometimes.

(1) My orders have been processed many times without this 1 confirmation requirement.
(2) This rule is not shown ahead of time and is entirely unreasonable. How can I possibly predict when the next block will come, let alone the price of gold at that time?

You get it wrong. We're waiting for confirmation only to provide payout and avoid doublespend. It doesn't affect time of bet realisation.

Except it does in my case. Please refer to the transaction date/time I provided.

Your bets was been processed in 60 seconds right after it was been made, as I can see in our backoffice, as an example let's take first transaction you provided above.

You bet on gold price fall from 1293.69000 at 2014-07-15 22:29:32 utc, 60 seconds after, at 22:30:32 gold price was 1293.70000, so this bet was wrong and you loose.
87  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 18, 2014, 07:55:03 PM
Updown.bt, please review my earlier messages. Your site still hasn't processed the payments it was 'processing'... :\

Can you give me transaction ID?

I gave you the time in the system. Here are some examples:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7124cfad4fc011e62343d38327d55d402015bd93f558c9917b7ca282096201d9
https://blockchain.info/tx/09219873db9e309ff9442df08997aadfc880f9554ec4a249c9af7f3423bdbe04

Because of the lag in the system its pretty hard to tell which had the problem.

Both of the transactions you provided above are processed without any errors.

Processing status will be shown until we will get first confirmation, that may take pretty much time sometimes.

(1) My orders have been processed many times without this 1 confirmation requirement.
(2) This rule is not shown ahead of time and is entirely unreasonable. How can I possibly predict when the next block will come, let alone the price of gold at that time?

Before we was trying to work without transactions confirmation but as well as many other providers was been affected by doublespend fraud.

You get it wrong. We're waiting for confirmation only to provide payout and avoid doublespend. It doesn't affect the time of bet realisation.
88  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 18, 2014, 07:53:14 PM
If you guys want to bet/trade with a legit 60 second option broker go to http://satoshioption.com. They might not be on bitcointalk vary much but the site has always paid me over the last 12 months

Pro's

100% anonymous
Onsite wallet
Been paying for more than a year
Money forgotten in a onsite wallet is automatically sent back to the sending address after 3 days of inactivity


Con's


Markets sometimes turn off/on
Deposits need 1 confirmation
Low payout for btc/usd compared to forex pairs/gold/silver

Satoshi Option also runs a option exchange for btc/usd more similar to normal options instead of binary. I haven't personally tried that portion of the site yet though so no feedback.


Alternatively beastoption runs on professional binary option trading software which is pretty much the same as any usd/eur/gbp based binary broker. They also offer longer timeframe of 1m to 1h.

We've had a lot of discussions about onsite wallet, but we want to secure client's money as much as possible, and best way to do so is not to store client's money.



As many people have stated it's also the best way to prolong the bet by x amount of time. With a 60 second option even 1 second delay (never mine 50-100%) is enough to tip the scales from profit to loss. Which is why I only play where onsite wallets are available.

Hope this delays will be smaller after upcoming infrastructure update, and we're still discussing onsite wallets for hardcore players who wants no delay in bets processing. Thank you for your feedback.
89  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 18, 2014, 07:46:54 PM
Updown.bt, please review my earlier messages. Your site still hasn't processed the payments it was 'processing'... :\

Can you give me transaction ID?

I gave you the time in the system. Here are some examples:

https://blockchain.info/tx/7124cfad4fc011e62343d38327d55d402015bd93f558c9917b7ca282096201d9
https://blockchain.info/tx/09219873db9e309ff9442df08997aadfc880f9554ec4a249c9af7f3423bdbe04

Because of the lag in the system its pretty hard to tell which had the problem.

Both of the transactions you provided above are processed without any errors.

Processing status will be shown until we will get first confirmation, that may take pretty much time sometimes.
90  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 18, 2014, 07:16:23 PM
is he not paying you because he didn't confirm you were in the campaign ?
That is kind of strange if it is the reason. You went on and did the posts like everyone else so why does it really matter.
Or is their more to the story ??


OH MY GOD HE PAID ME EXTRA, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im kinda jealous right now congrats on that though,  I dont think hes planning on paying me anything, so I guess My rep will stay, I guess others are free to leave theres or take it away.  

We pay for everyone who keep our signature until the 4th of June (time where payouts should be made), but actually even until 1st of June when we responded that everyone will be paid.

Why didn't you reply sooner? Is there a reason? You've been online, but didn't bother to inform them until today. Why?

What?

I've informed everyone that they will be paid at 1 June, 4 days before the payment date, and provided payouts to everyone who kept the signature until the 1st June.
91  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 18, 2014, 06:24:36 PM
If you guys want to bet/trade with a legit 60 second option broker go to http://satoshioption.com. They might not be on bitcointalk vary much but the site has always paid me over the last 12 months

Pro's

100% anonymous
Onsite wallet
Been paying for more than a year
Money forgotten in a onsite wallet is automatically sent back to the sending address after 3 days of inactivity


Con's


Markets sometimes turn off/on
Deposits need 1 confirmation
Low payout for btc/usd compared to forex pairs/gold/silver

Satoshi Option also runs a option exchange for btc/usd more similar to normal options instead of binary. I haven't personally tried that portion of the site yet though so no feedback.


Alternatively beastoption runs on professional binary option trading software which is pretty much the same as any usd/eur/gbp based binary broker. They also offer longer timeframe of 1m to 1h.

We're paying everyone since we've start an operation, having more fancy interface and working on a much more new stuff in a coming months. Service had some bad times for a month or so, but it was always paying to the customers.

We've had a lot of discussions about onsite wallet, but we want to secure client's money as much as possible, and best way to do so is not to store client's money.

92  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 18, 2014, 06:18:43 PM
is he not paying you because he didn't confirm you were in the campaign ?
That is kind of strange if it is the reason. You went on and did the posts like everyone else so why does it really matter.
Or is their more to the story ??


OH MY GOD HE PAID ME EXTRA, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im kinda jealous right now congrats on that though,  I dont think hes planning on paying me anything, so I guess My rep will stay, I guess others are free to leave theres or take it away.  

We pay for everyone who keep our signature until the 4th of June (time where payouts should be made), but actually even until 1st of June when we responded that everyone will be paid.
93  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 18, 2014, 05:08:01 PM
If anybody have not been paid or have any questions, please right it right there or in to the personal messages, we don't want to be a scammers and owe money someone, but I understand that some errors can be made during the campaign processing.

You are acting in a good way, this is how it should be,
I sent you pm since friday and you dint respond, you dint pay me and i changed my sign Thursday, one day before you paid, im in the innitial confirmed users list , you owe me around 200 posts.
my address in on profile.

see this member didnt get paid and many others

You didnt pay this guy nevet so your rep will still be there, you have it on the list on first page.

He removed his signature at least at the end of the month, we're paying only to users who had our signatures at the end of the campaign period.
94  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 18, 2014, 05:06:01 PM
Updown.bt, please review my earlier messages. Your site still hasn't processed the payments it was 'processing'... :\

Can you give me transaction ID?
95  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 18, 2014, 05:05:06 PM
you didnt pay me what is owed Uptown I was patient enough and left feedback, you owe me .29 btc

Hope everything is solved now.
96  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 18, 2014, 05:00:37 PM
u sent me 0.045 Huh where is the rest?  Im owed  . 29 btc more

Check 2nd TX ID a819318c7f80c39cc988625b2a825da680d8d5a85a660312edadeccb75485fa7
97  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 18, 2014, 04:28:16 PM
Hello... nobody is even paying attention to how the site itself cheats (either intentionally or unintentionally) and instead is focusing on the sig campaign... lol

Maybe it tells us the site has more signature ad participants than customers lol. Cheesy

Hopefully not. We have much more bets that signatures )

98  Economy / Gambling / Re: UpDown.bt — Binary Options — | Instant bets | Payouts in 60sec | BCF Gold Member on: July 18, 2014, 04:27:30 PM
So how is this a scam? I've been playing on here with like 0.05 or less now for the longest time for fun, and nothing has ever happened to me :\

You should wait for at least one confirmation until doublespends are possible in the network.

Hi, I have encountered 2 major problems. First your system introduces a VARIABLE LAG before transactions are processed. This lag can be anywhere from 1 second to 12 seconds in my experience. You don't have to take my word for it, look on the blockchain. The differential there is huge. 12 seconds is 1/5th of the entire length of the binary option. Theoretically with that kind of lag it would be possible to completely change the outcome of a bet, and this has happened to me multiple times. It is mandatory that you fix this.

Second, your system occasionally marks withdraws as "processing" rather than actually "win" or "loss". Then, later, it will switch to "win" or "loss" by which time the price may have changed significantly. It doesn't appear to always check the price at the time it "began" processing. This can last 15 minutes which obviously is way longer than the option itself. For an example where this system has cheated me out of winnings I should have been due, please refer to the transaction made immediately prior to the one made at 23:49:07.

Please fix these problems. My address is the one in the transaction I just referenced (23:49:07).

1) This is a technical lag, transaction processing can take some time that we're trying to make as small as possible. Hope that new technical infrastructure will help us to avoid any lags like this.

2) Bet will be processed in 60s after it was been made, "processing" doesn't change anything here, we just need some time to get information from our server and show it on the website.
99  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 18, 2014, 04:08:51 PM
Yeah I dont understand it as well, but It makes sense.

To JC I was not attacking you, I was stating that I was confirmed and I have that post as proof.  Im also on the list and I even got a PM two days ago that he was going to pay me yesterday.  I have that as well.  I stood here till july 9th for uptown advertising a few extra days more.  I did fulfill the contract and days over,  I am owed .33 btc for the whole month, I believe is more but im claiming what is fair.
 

As of Today I still did not get payment, I will continue to pursue the payment, since I did give a couple of extra days of free advertising.

I also saw updown.bt promise you payment.. but that was days ago.
What has happened since then?  Has he not been responding to your PMs?

Thank you for your concern on the issue, but as of today I have not receive 1 bitcent from the time he promised me.   I been waiting patiently and have not taken action to put a negative feedback on his profile, so I am still giving time but my patience will likely run out

Sorry for the delay, again. Now the last payment was been sent and campaign is officially finished.
100  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 18, 2014, 04:07:46 PM
regardless of rules whoever advertised for him deserves there payment, and I was promised payment but still I got nothing today as promised, he told me 8 to 10 hours, and is past that already.
If he told you he will pay you, then he probably really will. If you see thought his previous posts then delays of 24-48 hours are normal for OP.

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