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81  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 05, 2014, 11:21:52 PM
Here's an example of the shit I'm talking about. My bet came in and should have been confirmed instantly. It wasn't, even though my minimum odds were lower than the current available odds. DB owes me .56. I caught them this time.

https://i.imgur.com/zFaJtfG.jpg

Your bet was confirmed at odds of 1.79, higher than your minimum requested odds of 1.77 :

http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1JDC6avybQe6gBqTbc1doqnWvjA2VDxj3P

You won this bet and got paid, congratulations !

Your bet was confirmed instantly, as soon as it was received on 22:35 UTC.

You are spreading false and misleading information here on DirectBet !

If you truly believe that we are treating you unfairly, why do you keep betting on our website ?


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Don't bet with these frauds.

Why do you post such remarks yet keep betting yourself ?

You got paid extra at odds higher than requested ! This bet is another proof that our automated betting system is fair.


It wasn't confirmed instantly...you are lying. It showed as "NEGOTIATE" and gave me the option to cancel. LIAR.

I bet with you because you are the only out for bitcoin in-play betting in some cases. In those cases, I hedge my winning bets that I have with Nitrogen.

Don't worry, I'll be informing every single online forum of your fraudulent tactics.
82  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 05, 2014, 10:58:23 PM
Why not showing the time? Maybe the picture on the right was made before the picture on the left?

You are trying to make direct bet look like it is a bad bookie. I started thinking that maybe someone hired you to do it?

My taskbar has all of my personal shit on it. I'm not posting that. DB can confirm that this bet wasn't confirmed instantly even though it should have been.
83  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 05, 2014, 10:40:26 PM
Here's an example of the shit I'm talking about. My bet came in and should have been confirmed instantly. It wasn't, even though my minimum odds were lower than the current available odds. DB owes me .56. I caught them this time.

https://i.imgur.com/zFaJtfG.jpg
84  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 05, 2014, 10:04:39 PM
Don't bet with these frauds.

1) Extremely poor odds for in play
2) Bookie holds all of the cards. The way the system is setup, the customer is left in limbo while bets are "pending". You can't cancel a "negotiate odds" bet while it is pending. I've had "negotiate odds" bets show as pending for over a minute, even while my minimum odds are still available, and then have the bet show up as "negotiate" while the bookie sees what happens in the match and lowers the odds.


There are some pros...
1) fast payouts
2) pre-match odds are decent. Not the best, but decent.

85  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 05, 2014, 09:58:36 PM
In the blockchain:
https://blockchain.info/tx/499b5b55f419c0d7b640d70ff4aa768caaf78b837d07744067db7a1956ad5e56

"No bets received"

http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=18ajdcmjNV1Y4sNJCzAmAkgPWStzr8oUvx
86  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 05, 2014, 06:59:20 PM
Why are you guys bitching so much? I think that you made bets without reading the rules. Of course you have to understand how it works before you start betting.

In my opinion, Directbet is right.

I'm not arguing rules. I clearly understand the difference between flexible and negotiate odds.


DB was offering 5.6 on Fischer. I submitted a Negotiate bet (with min odds at 5.6) on Fischer. They received it while it was still open for betting at 5.6. Odds had not changed.


Problem for you is that the odds did change by the time the transaction was received. They were lower than your minimum 5.6 odds.
Since the odds offered at the time the transaction was received did not meet your standards, you had your coins refunded.
Pretty straight forward.

You are missing it. Bet said PENDING and will be confirmed shortly. During this time, I refreshed the odds 3 times in a different tab and they remained the same....5.6. My bet should have been confirmed INSTANTLY upon receipt.

DB, I placed bets on your site last night because I was hedging bets I had placed on other sites, and unfortunately your shitty site was my only out.
87  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 05, 2014, 07:55:20 AM
Odds were 5.6 when it arrived. You tried to tell me that the odds never reached 5.6, but then backed off that stance when you saw I had proof. You waited to confirm my bet until Fischer completed the break. Then you dropped the odds to 2.8. Of course I canceled it then!
88  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 05, 2014, 06:57:52 AM
Why are you guys bitching so much? I think that you made bets without reading the rules. Of course you have to understand how it works before you start betting.

In my opinion, Directbet is right.

I'm not arguing rules. I clearly understand the difference between flexible and negotiate odds.

I'm arguing execution.

DB was offering 5.6 on Fischer. I submitted a Negotiate bet (with min odds at 5.6) on Fischer. They received it while it was still open for betting at 5.6. Odds had not changed. My bet should have been confirmed INSTANTLY. Instead, it sat PENDING for over a minute. During this time, I refreshed the odds and they were sitll available at 5.6. As soon as Fischer completed the break, the odds dropped to 2.8, and my bet status changed from PENDING to NEGOTIATE.

DB comes back and says the odds were never at 5.6. Untrue - and I showed proof. Then they acknowledge the odds were at 5.6, but my bet was received when the odds were at 4.6.



Pay me! You still haven't acknowledged this!
89  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 05, 2014, 03:55:18 AM
Here's a reason not to play there........

Tie game........
LIVE !   Moneyline
Hamilton @ +122
Edmonton @ -286


Bet365 has
Hamilton +165
Edmonton -200



This isn't even a really bad one relative to some of the other fraudulent lines at DB.


Tie game.........
LIVE !   Moneyline (Listed)
Houston (D Keuchel) @ +146
LA Angels (CJ Wilson) @ -357


Bet365 has
Houston +170
LAA -195



DO NOT PLAY HERE if you can access ANY OTHER SITE with live betting. If you are betting with bitcoin, CHECK CLOUDBET FIRST.....they have better odds for live events.
90  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 05, 2014, 12:14:00 AM
Why are you guys bitching so much? I think that you made bets without reading the rules. Of course you have to understand how it works before you start betting.

In my opinion, Directbet is right.

I'm not arguing rules. I clearly understand the difference between flexible and negotiate odds.

I'm arguing execution.

DB was offering 5.6 on Fischer. I submitted a Negotiate bet (with min odds at 5.6) on Fischer. They received it while it was still open for betting at 5.6. Odds had not changed. My bet should have been confirmed INSTANTLY. Instead, it sat PENDING for over a minute. During this time, I refreshed the odds and they were sitll available at 5.6. As soon as Fischer completed the break, the odds dropped to 2.8, and my bet status changed from PENDING to NEGOTIATE.

DB comes back and says the odds were never at 5.6. Untrue - and I showed proof. Then they acknowledge the odds were at 5.6, but my bet was received when the odds were at 4.6.

91  Economy / Gambling / Re: NitrogenSports.eu - Sportsbook & Exchange - 2000+ props - 20 BTC FIFA promo on: July 04, 2014, 10:51:09 PM
Nitrogen is planning on releasing free bets to users today. Bets will range from .001 to .1 , and it will be 10% of your average bet size over a 3 week period in May
92  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 04, 2014, 10:26:59 PM
Peeps - you can't imagine how many times this has happened to me

That's because you are using the Coinbase wallet, which frequently delays Bitcoin transfers.

We advised you several times to use the official Bitcoin Core client since you are placing time sensitive bets in-play.

Unfortunately, you ignored our suggestions and kept using the Coinbase wallet.

Sometimes I use coinbase, but surprisingly I acknowledged your suggestion and DID switch to the core client.....and included txn fees......and still came up with the same issues. I will tell you that they didn't happen quite as often, which was nice. But still happened nonetheless.

Please credit my account with the .59 from the Fischer bet.
93  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 04, 2014, 10:06:51 PM
Peeps - you have a site that rates bitcoin betting sites, right? We need more people to know about our problems unless DB steps in to make it right for us. You can post on your site, and I can post this across twitter, facebook and every single bitcoin/gambling forum on the net. Repeatedly.
94  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 04, 2014, 09:25:56 PM
DirectBet- Your rules allow for a 3 hour delay then you can tell us after the game if a bet is good or not. Your program and rules are flawed if you can't tell us within 1 minute if a bet is good. Deposit books tell us immediately.

No Peeps, we tell you immediately, within a few seconds, whether your bet is accepted or rejected.

If your bet transfer is received after the event is already over, it will get rejected and refunded.

The problem with your bet was that your wallet did not send the transfer right away. It held it for 7 minutes, during which we had no way to tell that you sent in your bet.
I showed you multiple times that you received the bet at 17:45, not 17:52.

Your post above says that DirectBet can wait until 1 minute before an event concludes to accept or reject even if the bet was placed an hour ago. You don't see the flaw? You are shot taking.

Peeps - you can't imagine how many times this has happened to me
95  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 04, 2014, 09:10:02 PM
DirectBet- Your rules allow for a 3 hour delay then you can tell us after the game if a bet is good or not. Your program and rules are flawed if you can't tell us within 1 minute if a bet is good. Deposit books tell us immediately.

No Peeps, we tell you immediately, within a few seconds, whether your bet is accepted or rejected.

If your bet transfer is received after the event is already over, it will get rejected and refunded.

The problem with your bet was that your wallet did not send the transfer right away. It held it for 7 minutes, during which we had no way to tell that you sent in your bet.

Bull. Yesterday mine set as "bet received - pending" and "open for additional betting" for over a minute. You waited for Fischer to break, and then my bet went to "negotiate".
96  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 04, 2014, 09:04:43 PM
And just like that, DB disappears.

May be time to organize a boycott  Wink
97  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 04, 2014, 08:31:59 PM
Here's my bet that was sent at 17:45 but DirectBet said 17:52.

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Size   258 (bytes)
Received Time   2014-07-02 17:45:27
Included In Blocks   308912 (2014-07-02 18:12:04 +27 minutes)
Confirmations   313 Confirmations
Relayed by IP    Blockchain.info
Visualize   View Tree Chart

What a joke! This place is all sorts of f'd up. The problem for us is that they hold all of the cards. There is no transparency. The system is inherently flawed. They owe you AND me.
98  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 04, 2014, 08:26:22 PM
You say it was never at 5.6, but I ordered it and it automatically populated the current odds of 5.6

Check my screenshot - I have never ordered a bet and typed in 5.6 as my desired odds.

Even after you received the bet, it showed as "pending" and "open for additional betting". Message said "bet will be confirmed shortly", so I checked the odds and sure enough they were at 5.6. Yet still not confirmed. Why wasn't that automatic? You sat there and allowed Fischer to complete the break and then dropped the odds to 2.8. Then, and only then, did my bet go from "pending" to "negotiate".

Secondly, to test my hypothesis that you copy lines from Cloudbet and Bet365 - I checked the Cubs/Nationals odds today in the 5th inning and sure enough, your lines were identical to Cloudbet.

We do not confirm bets manually. All bets are processed automatically by our automated betting system.

We do not copy lines from Cloudbet or Bet365. Please stop spreading false information.

You are right, when you ordered the bet, the odds were 5.6.

By the time your bet transfer was received, the odds were reduced to 4.6 due to developments in the game. During in-play, odds might fluctuate widely.

You had an option to lower the minimum required odds and get your bet confirmed but you elected to cancel the bet.

Per your request, your bet was then canceled and refunded and therefore no payout is due.

LIES!!!!

Per your  email from last night:

"The odds never reached 5.6. 4.6 was the highest until you canceled the bet.
It's possible that you didn't refresh the page and saw outdated odds."
99  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 04, 2014, 07:19:58 PM
They are middle men. They get their odds from Cloudbet & Bet365

That's not true.

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They confirm bets when it is advantageous to them. They have all the power and control. When they see a bet come in, they can confirm it at whatever odds they want (if flexible odds selected).

When you use the "Flexible Odds" betting option we confirm your bet at the current available odds. As soon as we receive your bet transfer, we immediately make a single inquiry to the current odds, and these odds are set as the confirmed odds for the bet. Most of the times, if you send out the bet immediately, the odds will be the same as they were by the time you ordered the bet, but in other times the odds might be higher or lower.

What you are claiming here is not true. If you like, I can show you dozens of your bets where the confirmed odds were much higher than the odds were at the time that you ordered the bet. This will demonstrate to you that we confirm bets in a fairly manner.

We are very surprised by your claim. We explained to you in the past via e-mail how we confirm bets and you kept betting frequently on our website ever since then.
To us, that's an indication that our automated betting system has treated your fairly.

You are blatantly lying to justify not confirming my Fischer bet at 5.6.

You say it was never at 5.6, but I ordered it and it automatically populated the current odds of 5.6

Check my screenshot - I have never ordered a bet and typed in 5.6 as my desired odds.

Even after you received the bet, it showed as "pending" and "open for additional betting". Message said "bet will be confirmed shortly", so I checked the odds and sure enough they were at 5.6. Yet still not confirmed. Why wasn't that automatic? You sat there and allowed Fischer to complete the break and then dropped the odds to 2.8. Then, and only then, did my bet go from "pending" to "negotiate".



Secondly, to test my hypothesis that you copy lines from Cloudbet and Bet365 - I checked the Cubs/Nationals odds today in the 5th inning and sure enough, your lines were identical to Cloudbet.

100  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – Best LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. No Accounts. Instant Payouts. on: July 04, 2014, 04:57:43 PM
I ordered the bet at by selecting "negotiate" at the default current odds, which were 5.6

I NEVER typed in 5.6, which is what the picture illustrates. The bet was received, and showed as pending while the odds were still 5.6 (I checked, and hit refresh 3 times). Directbet then drastically lowered the odds to 2.8. My bet should have been confirmed instantly.

Directbet is trying to say that I set the odds at 5.6. They were ALREADY THERE!
If you make a negotiate bet, a certain odd is automatically filled in. If you don't change that odd, your bet will be confirmed at that filled in odd.

My guess is that the 5.6 automatically was filled in.

That's what I'm trying to convey. 5.6 was automatically filled in. DB said 5.6 was never available, and I called bullshit. They are lying.
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