2.9.2 was released April 2012. might want to try a newer version. I've been using 2.11.2.
Thanks. It runs without error with 2.11.2 (and .4, the latest version) but produces no output, even with garbage files. Here is what I was testing it on recently. Is it correct? 00000000* SET @00000000 #0000000000000000
0000000d SET @00000001 #0000000000000001
0000001a SET @00000002 #0000000000000002
00000027 SET @00000003 #0000000000000003
00000034 SET @00000004 #0000000000000004
00000041 SET @00000005 #0000000000000005
0000004e SET @00000006 #0000000000000006
0000005b SET @00000007 #0000000000000007
00000068 SET @00000008 #0000000000000008
00000075 SET @00000009 #0000000000000009
00000082 SET @0000000a #000000000000000a
0000008f SET @0000000b #000000000000000b
0000009c SET @0000000c #000000000000000c
000000a9 SET @0000000d #000000000000000d
000000b6 SET @0000000e #000000000000000e
000000c3 SET @0000000f #000000000000000f
000000d0 ADD @00000000 @00000001
000000d9 ADD @00000001 @00000002
000000e2 ADD @00000002 @00000003
000000eb ADD @00000003 @00000004
000000f4 ADD @00000004 @00000005
000000fd ADD @00000005 @00000006
00000106 ADD @00000006 @00000007
0000010f ADD @00000007 @00000008
00000118 ADD @00000008 @00000009
00000121 ADD @00000009 @0000000a
0000012a ADD @0000000a @0000000b
00000133 ADD @0000000b @0000000c
0000013c ADD @0000000c @0000000d
00000145 ADD @0000000d @0000000e
0000014e ADD @0000000e @0000000f
00000157 FIN The code is correct. But if you want to pass it through the assembler to get the final machine code you need to remove the first column ( 00000000*, 0000000d etc ) |
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There's a create AT button in the ui in the AT tab under transactions Thanks. When I try to run the assembly code from the lottery example through your assembler, I get the following error: fivebells@hostname:~/alien/burstcoin/at/ATAssembler/src/scala$ scala ATAssembler.scala tst.s
/home/fivebells/alien/burstcoin/at/ATAssembler/src/scala/ATAssembler.scala:151: error: Sanity check failed: over 25000 symbols created for pattern match.
for (line <- lines) {
^ tst.s contains the contents of the "Assembly Code" section of the ciyam.org lottery page. Tried it with and without the asterix after the initial "00000000". Running on ubuntu 14.04, using the ubuntu "scala" package. Also, scala stinks. :-) Does it throw that error for any input, or just that example, and what version of scala are you using? The lottery case in ciyam.org/at site is using the old api and needs changes. Maybe this is the reason why you cant use it with the ATAssembler. I have the new version ready to run, but i am not gome these days to deploy it. |
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vbcs, is it possible to do inter currency exchange? So for example if Nxt and BURST both has AT, can someone write a script which will handle exchanges from Nxt to BURST and the other way around?
Ofc, it is possible to do atomic cross chain transactions between platforms that are AT enabled. This use case is already ready, you can find a description here : www.ciyam.org/at/at_atomic.html . Also with a modified version of that use case you can achieve anonymity while transfering your coins from platform x1 to platform x2 |
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Forgive me for asking but what is the purpose of using hard drive capacity to mine anyway? Is the free space put to some use? Like for storing files and such? Or is it just a proof-of-concept for an alternative to the traditional proof-of-work schemes?
It's an alternative to POW schemes that should discourage the increasing centralization that's been occurring with them. By having mining speed bound by standard hardware users already have and drawing negligible electricity to mine with it, normal users mining with their existing hardware while they are using it can mine effectively for free, and as farms have far more overhead to operate and are unable to gain efficiency advantages with specialized hardware, farms shouldn't be able to achieve as high hashrate/operatingcost as normal users, which should help keep the network decentralized. Ah, excellent explanation thanks. So I would think that proof-of-capacity is ASIC proof then? While it is possible an ASIC could be created that achieves better hashrate/W than actually storing the plot files, the advantage could easily be taken away by increasing plotting complexity, which would decrease ASIC hashrate/W, and although it would increase drive plotting times, it would have no impact on resources required to mine with HDDs after space is plotted. Dear Sir, If you ever find yourself bored or out-of-work, you should write a white-paper for burst. Today I have hard seeing someone else doing as well as you would, and on top in thing your write damn nice. Perhaps a couple of people could write a draft but it still would be a lot of work. Btw, I have just gradually understood what ATs are, and that is one reason the press release hasn't been published yet (I didn't really believe what Matt told me hehe!). And it's not easy to understand the magnitude of what they can achieve. I'm quite overwhelmed of what you guys actually have been able to do. This coin most be the most undervalued in the history of crypto atm. And of course my deposited funds to buy more got stuck due to the holidays  All the best! I am glad someone understood what ATs can achieve. I know is not easy to understand, but when you do, you can see the potentials. |
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Also it would be nice if some of you can contribute towards the lottery (as initial capital) , so we can have a better reward for the first winner of the first decentralized, trustless lottery ever.
I need both YOUR wallet for your 50k donation I'm giving you, and the lottery wallet for the 25k I'll send there. Thanks! edit : I see yours in the sig. just need the other. edit2: I just sent you 75k donation, awaiting the wallet ID for the lottery, so I can send 25k there as well. I have not yet created an account to host the funds for the lottery, when is ready I will post it here. Thanks for the kind donation. What kind of host would you like, if I read you correctly? I'll help you and give you total access. I will just have to.create an account to hold the funds that initial will be send to ghe lottery AT account for increasing the reward of the lottery. |
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Also it would be nice if some of you can contribute towards the lottery (as initial capital) , so we can have a better reward for the first winner of the first decentralized, trustless lottery ever.
I need both YOUR wallet for your 50k donation I'm giving you, and the lottery wallet for the 25k I'll send there. Thanks! edit : I see yours in the sig. just need the other. edit2: I just sent you 75k donation, awaiting the wallet ID for the lottery, so I can send 25k there as well. I have not yet created an account to host the funds for the lottery, when is ready I will post it here. Thanks for the kind donation. |
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Also it would be nice if some of you can contribute towards the lottery (as initial capital) , so we can have a better reward for the first winner of the first decentralized, trustless lottery ever.
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Also Max Keiser doesn't have a public email address. I have tried to contact him before.
max at his full name dot com stacyherbert at the g mail dot com but he has his own crypto so may not be the champion that you seek. Yea, I was just gonna say that, he's got his own coin, so why would he be interested in ours? I mean, given, his coin sucks. but yea. lol. I just had an idea. http://startjoin.com is one of his pet sites. I think that he is part owner. Maybe if the marketing group was to start some sort of crowd funding project on his site, he may take notice and start talking about it. Taking it to the extreme, he may even go so far as to want to do an interview with the DEV...if he is willing to step into the public eye. There is a whole cryptocurrency section: https://www.startjoin.com/projects/discover/CryptocurrencyI would suggest if you want to start a crowdfund better to do it with an AT. I have the crowdfund use case ready. So if anyone wants to use it for crowdfunding his projects just tell me and I will modify the case to your needs. Fantastic, use the ATs for the crowdfunding, such a great idea. I am interested in having this ability, can you please provide me with whatever is necessary? Thank you! Also, I think the stuff for automatic asset payouts would be useful as well. Thanks! Is there some way that using at's we could easily publish dividend information for assets to the blockchain? Or is just using unencrypted messages to self or whatever a better way? I guess you can create an AT, which data space can have whatever information you want in it, and you will be able also to update these info. My idea is that for each AT you can have also an .html file for example, so the users of the AT can view the information/state of the AT in a way more friendly for them. I am currently creating that for the Lottery Case ( which might be the first use case we will publish) . So you see the potentials and how you can store information inside the AT on top of other things (which can be updated) and display that info using an html file locally. Is it a new way of "internet" ?? |
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Also Max Keiser doesn't have a public email address. I have tried to contact him before.
max at his full name dot com stacyherbert at the g mail dot com but he has his own crypto so may not be the champion that you seek. Yea, I was just gonna say that, he's got his own coin, so why would he be interested in ours? I mean, given, his coin sucks. but yea. lol. I just had an idea. http://startjoin.com is one of his pet sites. I think that he is part owner. Maybe if the marketing group was to start some sort of crowd funding project on his site, he may take notice and start talking about it. Taking it to the extreme, he may even go so far as to want to do an interview with the DEV...if he is willing to step into the public eye. There is a whole cryptocurrency section: https://www.startjoin.com/projects/discover/CryptocurrencyI would suggest if you want to start a crowdfund better to do it with an AT. I have the crowdfund use case ready. So if anyone wants to use it for crowdfunding his projects just tell me and I will modify the case to your needs. Fantastic, use the ATs for the crowdfunding, such a great idea. I am interested in having this ability, can you please provide me with whatever is necessary? Thank you! Also, I think the stuff for automatic asset payouts would be useful as well. Thanks! I can modify the Crowdfund case to fit your needs. The parameters most likely will be : 1) the durations of the crowdunding 2) the total amount you ask and 3) the account id to fund if crowd funding was successful If the amount the AT gathers from donations is greater than the amount you ask, at the time the crowd fund ends, it will send to the account you have defined the total amount minus the fees the AT consumed. As for asset related cases, for now AT does not support API calls to retrieve informations related to assets. In future updates we will add these API calls as well. With Regards - vbcs |
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Also Max Keiser doesn't have a public email address. I have tried to contact him before.
max at his full name dot com stacyherbert at the g mail dot com but he has his own crypto so may not be the champion that you seek. Yea, I was just gonna say that, he's got his own coin, so why would he be interested in ours? I mean, given, his coin sucks. but yea. lol. I just had an idea. http://startjoin.com is one of his pet sites. I think that he is part owner. Maybe if the marketing group was to start some sort of crowd funding project on his site, he may take notice and start talking about it. Taking it to the extreme, he may even go so far as to want to do an interview with the DEV...if he is willing to step into the public eye. There is a whole cryptocurrency section: https://www.startjoin.com/projects/discover/CryptocurrencyI would suggest if you want to start a crowdfund better to do it with an AT. I have the crowdfund use case ready. So if anyone wants to use it for crowdfunding his projects just tell me and I will modify the case to your needs. |
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First implementation of automated transactions took place Today, only deep techies are aware I am among one of these people, this implementation opens a "doorway" so to speak, language is of Alain Turing, meaning computations have "self closure" operands compute operations on the blockchain and close in the sense of atomic reversible computations http://ciyam.org/ator in other words you have no idea what you have started I am sure we know  |
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AT stands for Automat ed Transactions and not atomic transactions Oops my bad, edited my post )) |
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Also some examples of AT can be found on the site ( www.ciyam.org/at.html ) . All the cases there (except from the acct case ) are using the old API specification, and I will convert them soon to follow the new API specifications. I am willing to program any ATs you might think and want, and if so, just drop me a message. But as burstcoin said, it is better to read the documentation before you try it yourself and understand how it works to create effiecient ATs that will last forever |
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can not be more than 10K a day with 100T with 10 ~ 15 T oscilaltions as we have now and it aint going down, you better of buying on an exchange price should drop big time before years end, next year is an open end game
can you explain why price should drop big before years end? ty possibly due to the natural behavior of the markets during Holiday season, might be a window of opportunity however now with the atomic transactions announcement situation might be very different I would still observe market carefully especially in the coming days Just a small detail. AT stands for Automated Transactions and not atomic transactions |
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After a lot of updates and bug fixes we are making available to anyone who is interested in reviewing and testing AT inside burst platform. ( https://github.com/BurstProject/burstcoin/tree/at ) It is not the final release, as there are some additions to be done (specially in the GUI side), but for reviewing and test purposes although in the final release the core AT function will not change. I would like to thank burstcoin for his contribution and his valuable help integrating AT smoothly into burst platform. And also I would like to thanks the ppl who donated for this project. Enjoy. Very nice, I hope I'll be able to test it out soon. By GUI you mean it is integrated into the wallet right? Yes, you can see the AT section if you expand the transactions tab. |
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After a lot of updates and bug fixes we are making available to anyone who is interested in reviewing and testing AT inside burst platform. ( https://github.com/BurstProject/burstcoin/tree/at ) It is not the final release, as there are some additions to be done (specially in the GUI side), but for reviewing and test purposes although in the final release the core AT function will not change. I would like to thank burstcoin for his contribution and his valuable help integrating AT smoothly into burst platform. And also I would like to thanks the ppl who donated for this project. Enjoy. |
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Has there been any work on the development environment for AT? The spec at CIYAM seems very low-level.
Is a crypto API going to be added to it? Doing crypto using the AT instructions would be very expensive.
How does the AT code interact with reward assignment? Vitalik Buterin thought up a mining contract where the terms of mining would be very enticing, and would lock participants' coin into the contract using a heavy penalty once the mining pool controlled more than 50% of the hashing power, giving the controller of the contract the power to double spend. Such a malicious arrangement could be simplified if AT code can automatically set reward assignment.
It would be great to see the source code for the AT branch of burstcoin. Is it available anywhere?
For the moment the way to create AT programs is writing AT machine code or using the https://github.com/BurstProject/ATAssembler burstdev made. There are many hash functions defined in the API section of the AT ( md5, sha256, ripemd160) you can use. Check the API specification for all the API calls an AT program can make ( http://ciyam.org/at/at_api.html ). I am not sure I totally understood your question about reward assignment. ATs are consuming fees from running op codes and calling API functions. The fees goes to the "forger" of the block. The code will be available very soon. |
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I read that Burst will implement AT this weekend. Is this schedule the same for Qora?
I was hoping we release both Qora and Burst version the same day. But unfortunately Qora version is not fully completed yet, and we dont have the luxury to wait more. Burst version, as it is nxt clone, was ready before even we started implementing the Qora version ( although we had to add new functionality and fix some bugs ) . |
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Atomic cross-chain transfer was invented by BTC forum member TierNolan - so I suggest you educate yourself rather than being a *fan boy of Jl777* and I don't think you'll find anyone here is interested in "Supernet".
Teleport technology is doing pretty much more then this. Looks like you are just another hater because you can't finish your old projects. This is just a simple use case of the AT. ATs can do much more, and burst implementation is the same as nxts. And nxts devs were not keen to integrate it into mainnet. I hope now with the burst version they will change their mind |
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