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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 01:10:28 PM
its known fact that people use more accounts and that account explorer doesnt mean anything.

I'm still waiting on your proof that 75% of Nxt is owned by 3-4 people.

"Coz James told me so" is no proof.

Well if you dont believe leading nextcoin developer then ok. I am not forcing you to believe it
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 01:09:52 PM
Farce is the word you need, Atoni.


It is pretty obvious that this thread is intended as a FUD attack on NXT, and an attempt to pump EXO:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709528.0

Very coincidental that Cryptonaut and Atoni are the first 2 posts in the above EXO thread.....



LOL, that was a joke from me. You can see all my posts in those couple of days that were all jokes.
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:58:55 PM
Either I am on your ignore list, or you just refuse to answer my question: Do you, or do you not have facts to back up your assumptions about distribution.

Until the basis of your argument is solid, any further conclusions drawn from it are moot.

It's a basic methodology that cannot be ignored if you want to have a discussion that leads to valid conclusions.

I already answered that. My conclusions come from James word and I am pretty sure he knows all larger holders so his word is good enough for me.

Your methodology is false one, I my self own 4 nextcoin wallets and dont even have nextcoin. So how many wallets do those that have it have? You know yourself that very well

So it's an appeal to authority. Glad to have cleared that up.
That means there is no way to dispute your claims, as they are based on your choice to trust this authority, not on original research.
James himself admits in the article you so gladly selectively quote that his conclusions are based on a "guesstimate".
We're at least clear now on how solid the basis for your conclusions is.

Your second argument is just logically unsound.

Your syllogism goes thus:

Minor premise: I own 4 nextcoin wallets
Major premise: All of my wallets are empty
Conclusion: All large nextcoin holders hold multiple wallets
Addendum: you know I am right.

Um...?

Are you actually saying that people dont have multiple accounts to hold funds? LOL, nice methodology you use, to me mine is a lot better as its known fact that people use more accounts and that account explorer doesnt mean anything.

This is becoming a farse
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:49:32 PM
Ok,

The assertions you have made with no or counterproductive evidence and I have asnwered fully and with links where appropriate and requested, are:

i) MGW was run like an exchange and couldn't be run by none exchange owners- so you agree that its centralised exchange run by exchange owners
ii) That 3-4 people control 75% of Nxt (you still provide no links to blockchain data) If James word is not enough.......he is one of leading nextcoin developers
iii) Attacking Nxt on the grounds of distribution and to be avoided but thinking Ripple is fine to use I dont attack nextcoin at all, and I compare it to Ripple only because it stole all of its ideas from Ripple
iv) Secret pump and dump of jl777holdl on polo when everything was transparent and publicI never said it was secret, actually when I asked that JL777 on nextcoin thread I posted link to, please stop lying about what I said
v) That Ripple is decentralised in the definitions only Ripple users identify with, and the impact this has on your arguments assertions.I dont understand a word you are trying to say
vi) refusing to see the difference between an idea implemented and an idea implemented successfully, and the innovation required to overcome the barriers between the two concepts.you may be mentally disabled. I said that other coins had asset exchange before, so dont understand what you are trying to say at all
vii) When failing in all these attempts to spread FUD, attack me personally.Which fud am I spreading? Saying that nextcoin stole all ideas from other coins but claims to be innovative? Even come-from-above-and-beyond said everything is stolen and only innovation will be transparent forging

Anyone can check this summary against the last couple of pages for accuracy. of course, everyone can check it lol, and say what? next copied all other coins


Finally, I have posted that picture as I found it confusing. It went against all the accepted definitions of Decentralised / Distributed / Centralised I had come across. Come-from-Beyond replied to me and I forget the wording but basically said 'it's a Ripple thing, they use different definitions'. I think it was in the Price Speculation thread if you want to browse it while doing your research  Cheesy you did not post that picture and it wasnt about Ripple's definition at all, and come-from-above-and-beyond didnt even take part in that discussion, it was between me and devphp mainly and lasted for a couple of pages

Till next time...  Cheesy
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:38:03 PM
Either I am on your ignore list, or you just refuse to answer my question: Do you, or do you not have facts to back up your assumptions about distribution.

Until the basis of your argument is solid, any further conclusions drawn from it are moot.

It's a basic methodology that cannot be ignored if you want to have a discussion that leads to valid conclusions.

I already answered that. My conclusions come from James word and I am pretty sure he knows all larger holders so his word is good enough for me.

Your methodology is false one, I my self own 4 nextcoin wallets and dont even have nextcoin. So how many wallets do those that have it have? You know yourself that very well
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:26:30 PM
Why isn't this guy banned yet ?
Why would I get banned?
Why you arent banned yet?

I was not talking about you but if you feel guilty you are suspicious indeed.

Calling a crypto a scam is never harmless.
Not only cryptonaut is calling Nxt a scam without proof but he also insult people that disagree with his fantasy.
You could say he's just delusional but I think he has an agenda.


I thought it was about me because I was among latests posters.
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:25:31 PM
Distributed is a half way house between centralised and decentralised. Explain what your definitions are or else I'll be force to descend to name calling and trying to undermine your character  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Sure, do the name calling...that will be funny

There was already a picture on one of those nxt threads that showed you what is difference between centralized, decentralized and distributed. It went exactly that way and showed you which is better. Feel free to go through all those posts because I am not going through them.

Yeah, I got the feeling you were unwilling to do any research yourself  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy That picture was from a Ripple source (I posted it !!!  Cheesy Cheesy ) and switches the definitions of Decentralised and Distributed that is generally accepted across the crypto community.


Unless you have any real argument, with some decent evidence, I am going to take a break. This thread speaks for itself, anyone with any genuine interst has the basic info available to find out more about the scope and potential impact of Nxt.

I'll leave you with you closing arguments  *hopes for good arguement and links but waits for populist grandstanding with unfounded assertion* Cheesy

That picture was not posted from you for sure as I remember answering to that topic and then answering again saying to the person that just now I see that it was him that posted it. So you know succumb to lies?

Which links are you waiting for? To show how other coins had asset exchange before? LOL, that is common knowledge
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:23:06 PM
How irrelevant is NXT? Dogecoin, a dying coin that was made as a joke, with a picture of doge meme as it's logo has over double the trade volume of NXT.

And LTC, a coin that is supposedly dying, is doing 17x more trade volume than NXT.

NXT is irrelevant.

Its irrelevant to me, I rode a way from 20mil to 80mil and maybe I will ride it again.

I just like to confront them since they tend to spam every damn thread on this forum with how innovative they are while in reality its all taken from other coins.

It's like a cult and trying to wake them up from it actually has the opposite effect of only reaffirming their delusions. But if your posts help stop a few noobs from drinking the kool-aid, cheers to you.

You are probably right.
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:19:04 PM
I mention Ripple in terms of nextcoin only because nextcoin took all ideas from Ripple. And I like to put salt to "oh look how innovative we are, we just copied everything from other coin"

It is easy to do what Nxt has done in a centralised or distributed environment. Nxt is valued highly as it is the first to do decentralised.

LOL, you are foolish. First you need to go again to see difference between distributed and centralised. Second I think you dont understand Ripple at all, if you did you wouldnt write such idiot thing. Third just look at how many coins have asset exchange (and had it before nextcoin) and tell me that its really hard to do Smiley

Counterparty and Mastercoin had AE's before Nxt and both have been pretty much failures so far. Nxt has been successful since day 1 and getting stronger as time goes on. Nxt has a large, hard won community, a big reputation for innovation and a verifiable track record for delivering what it promises.

Attack me if you want but presenting counter arguments (like what you think the definitions of the above terms mean) would be more helpful.

Sure, you changed your rethoric now. First it was that its hard to do what nextcoin programmers did, now when you realize that other coins had it too you go into terms of volume.

Thats not good way to present arguments.

Nxt is successful, is my rehtoric and my arguements are clear.

Yours are abscent.

My arguments are that its not innovative but it copied everything from other coins. And my arguments are very clear.

You changed rethoric again.
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:17:56 PM
How irrelevant is NXT? Dogecoin, a dying coin that was made as a joke, with a picture of doge meme as it's logo has over double the trade volume of NXT.

And LTC, a coin that is supposedly dying, is doing 17x more trade volume than NXT.

NXT is irrelevant.

Its irrelevant to me, I rode a way from 20mil to 80mil and maybe I will ride it again.

I just like to confront them since they tend to spam every damn thread on this forum with how innovative they are while in reality its all taken from other coins in a way that has never successfully been done before and valued by the crypto community.

FIFY  Cheesy

True innovation, no?

No lol. How was it not done successfully if it works?

And please do not moderate my posts again.
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
Distributed is a half way house between centralised and decentralised. Explain what your definitions are or else I'll be force to descend to name calling and trying to undermine your character  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Sure, do the name calling...that will be funny

There was already a picture on one of those nxt threads that showed you what is difference between centralized, decentralized and distributed. It went exactly that way and showed you which is better. Feel free to go through all those posts because I am not going through them.
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:14:43 PM
How irrelevant is NXT? Dogecoin, a dying coin that was made as a joke, with a picture of doge meme as it's logo has over double the trade volume of NXT.

And LTC, a coin that is supposedly dying, is doing 17x more trade volume than NXT.

NXT is irrelevant.

Its irrelevant to me, I rode a way from 20mil to 80mil and maybe I will ride it again.

I just like to confront them since they tend to spam every damn thread on this forum with how innovative they are while in reality its all taken from other coins.
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:13:29 PM
I mention Ripple in terms of nextcoin only because nextcoin took all ideas from Ripple. And I like to put salt to "oh look how innovative we are, we just copied everything from other coin"

It is easy to do what Nxt has done in a centralised or distributed environment. Nxt is valued highly as it is the first to do decentralised.

LOL, you are foolish. First you need to go again to see difference between distributed and centralised. Second I think you dont understand Ripple at all, if you did you wouldnt write such idiot thing. Third just look at how many coins have asset exchange (and had it before nextcoin) and tell me that its really hard to do Smiley

Counterparty and Mastercoin had AE's before Nxt and both have been pretty much failures so far. Nxt has been successful since day 1 and getting stronger as time goes on. Nxt has a large, hard won community, a big reputation for innovation and a verifiable track record for delivering what it promises.

Attack me if you want but presenting counter arguments (like what you think the definitions of the above terms mean) would be more helpful.

Sure, you changed your rethoric now. First it was that its hard to do what nextcoin programmers did, now when you realize that other coins had it too you go into terms of volume.

Thats not good way to present arguments.
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:12:09 PM
I dont support Ripple, I only use it to move funds between exchanges. (I hold 2000 XRP for transactions fees, that is not even 1USD now, and so far in 1 and a half year of using it I didnt even use a single XRP so most likely I will never have to buy them again)

And XRP is not distributed yet. They only distributed 8,2% of all XRPs.

You're happy to use a distributed exchange, the holy grail for a lot of crypto users is to do everything decentralised. Under nobodies control. This is what Nxt is working towards and leading the field at the moment.

If you even understood what you are writing, you wouldnt be writing it. In distributed nobody controls anything. You still seem to confuse distributed and centralized.
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:11:11 PM

Why isn't this guy banned yet ?



Why would I get banned?

Why you arent banned yet?
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:06:30 PM
I mention Ripple in terms of nextcoin only because nextcoin took all ideas from Ripple. And I like to put salt to "oh look how innovative we are, we just copied everything from other coin"

It is easy to do what Nxt has done in a centralised or distributed environment. Nxt is valued highly as it is the first to do decentralised.

LOL, you are foolish. First you need to go again to see difference between distributed and centralised. Second I think you dont understand Ripple at all, if you did you wouldnt write such idiot thing. Third just look at how many coins have asset exchange (and had it before nextcoin) and tell me that its really hard to do Smiley
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:04:37 PM
I dont support Ripple, I only use it to move funds between exchanges. (I hold 2000 XRP for transactions fees, that is not even 1USD now, and so far in 1 and a half year of using it I didnt even use a single XRP so most likely I will never have to buy them again)

And XRP is not distributed yet. They only distributed 8,2% of all XRPs.
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 12:01:14 PM
I mention Ripple in terms of nextcoin only because nextcoin took all ideas from Ripple. And I like to put salt to "oh look how innovative we are, we just copied everything from other coin"
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 11:59:40 AM
I told you where I get that number. From James's mouth. Of course, it could be he is lying
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Nxt is a scam and I have PROOF on: July 30, 2014, 11:57:23 AM
Yes, I want to pump NAS lol
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