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81  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investment in gambling on: February 16, 2024, 02:41:36 PM
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Do you know why most of the people gambles? Because they can't afford to invest, with gambling, if you are lucky, you can easily grow your money to 10 folds, or even 100 folds in just a short period of time, and that cannot happen when investing in a gambling platform. Investing is only for people who have a decent capital, and now, most of the gambling sites already have their private investors, so it's not anymore feasible for small time investors.

Actually, if we like to invest, rather choose a different industry because investing in gambling are only for those big capitalist. IMO, it's even better to invest on crypto (bitcoin or altcoins) as it could sometimes go x10 or x100.
People gamble because they want to get big wins, especially because maybe they have often seen advertisements that show other people have succeeded in getting big wins from gambling. That makes them come to the casino and play the same games as those people who won. Unfortunately, they are unlucky and only experience losses, but that doesn't stop them from gambling because they will always deposit more money than before. After all, they still want to chase that big win. But if they can think ahead, they can divert money from gambling to investments where they can hope to make a profit from their investment, especially if they invest in bitcoin.

Investing in bitcoin has shown the huge profits they can get, and many people have been able to get big profits from investing in bitcoin. They should realize that they should allocate more money to invest in Bitcoin, and they can still gamble with enough money. If they lose a gambling game, they do not need to try to recover their losses but rather accept their defeat and leave the casino.
82  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any fun in losing while gambling on: February 16, 2024, 02:23:02 PM
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of course they can do that. but it would be a shame if he failed to maintain and control himself so as not to gamble excessively. I understand that to achieve this, gamblers need to have good management to ensure that they do not make the same mistakes again. But if he is still caught in the same mistake, it means, his emotions are too high to realize that he has been in the wrong gambling method.
If he fails to control himself in gambling, he will lose his money without being able to recover his losses and get the money he has lost at the gambling table. He must be well aware of this so that he can reduce his gambling activities and he can prevent his losses. It's okay if he experiences those losses, but he can still get pleasure from gambling, and that's because he doesn't think about getting a win from gambling. He only thought about how he could get pleasure from gambling in his spare time without experiencing big problems. That is why he needs to have good self-control to prevent problems that can arise during and after he gambles.
83  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who does gambling addiction affect the most? on: February 16, 2024, 01:51:35 PM
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Newbie gamblers can be persistent about making the wrong gambling choices. Even when with an expert. However, it helps being with an expert, at least to remind the newbie of his wrong moves. Although some people would think that their own choices remain the best. You see that gamblers sometimes wouldn't care about the words of the expert. But if the person is quite very close with the expert, he wouldn't resist his advice. And it'll be hard for the gambler to get compulsive on the long run. That's the importance of having a good gambler around newbies. Because if he gets addicted, it'll be quite a long healing journey for the gambler to get back to his normal gambling habit. Definitely the people around the addict will go through multiple stress. Which can even lead them to therapy, because multiple stress can affect the way one thinks and behave.
But usually, gamblers hide their gambling habits from other people, even if they are members of their own family. This requires attention from other family members to recognize changes in the gambler's attitude so they can ask the gambler about it. If the gambler wants to say that he has started to become addicted to gambling, his family members can immediately take him to see a professional who can cure him. This requires a fairly long healing journey for the gambler. But it is all worth it considering that there are family members who will always accompany this long journey so that the gambler will not feel alone in struggling to cure his gambling addiction. Maybe his family members will experience the impact of the gambler. But if there is mutual openness between them, especially from the gambler, they can help each other to try to overcome and cure their gambling addiction.
84  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The worst slot provider ever? on: February 16, 2024, 01:32:08 PM
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You need more money to be able to play longer if you choose Hacksaw provider to play, there the minimum bet amount is quite large and if you only have small amount of money then you will lose all the money without any wins that can be said worthy.
I feel that the slot games in the Hacksaw provider will only be able to be won by gamblers who are generous and able to use big money to really win, this is a real thing that I also experienced.
I tried the slot game provided by Hacksaw several times out of curiosity because it was difficult to win, but in the end all attempts to play failed and only left me with frustration because I lost the entire money deposited without any return.
Actually slots are games that have RTP, but in games provided by Hacksaw, it seems that RTP really doesn't apply and this is the most difficult game in slots.

But I wouldn't say that Hacksaw is the worst slot game provider because many big gamblers are loyal to this type of slot game, those who are able to play well will get big wins.
I will just say that the games in the Hacksaw provider are not the right kind of games for those little gamblers.
That's the problem where I don't want to add more money to play slot games from Hacksaw because that will increase my losses even more. I should choose another slot game that doesn't require too much money to enjoy the slot game. Moreover, I only play slots in moderation and don't chase wins because getting wins from slot games is very difficult, regardless of the provider. And until now, I have rarely played slot games from the Hacksaw provider because winning is very difficult. I used to play slot games from Pragmatic Play often, but then I realized that slot games from that provider were also difficult to win. This slot game requires a larger amount of money than other gambling games, and because this is gambling, we have to be very careful in choosing the gambling game, not have too high hopes of winning, and just try to enjoy the game.

Slot games from each provider try to provide entertainment for gamblers, so we must realize that we should not try too hard to play them because everything depends on our luck. If we are lucky, we can definitely win, but if not, we will not be able to win, and most gamblers have already experienced defeat. And we should limit our slot games so that we don't experience more losses.
85  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone here who retired with Gambling winnings ? on: February 15, 2024, 05:25:44 PM
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The only time that you would considering on retiring is into these possible situations or conditions.

1. Hitting up Jackpot on slots
2. Hitting lottery Jackpot

We do know that the amounts involved isnt something that would be small on which it would really be that a life changing thing, but the main question here is that, would you be abel to
stop on the time that you do win up those big amounts? Are you sure that you would really be that able not to spend those winnings back into the casino?
Some might be able to completely stop and settle for good and having those investments and business but majority would really be that
playing again back into the casino and hoping that they could really be able to win up more.
Getting a jackpot from a gambling game by making a lot of money can give gamblers the opportunity to retire from gambling. However, not many people will be able to get the jackpot because getting it is very difficult, and you may have to use a lot of money. But these people will still try because they still hope to win from gambling even though they don't know when they will win. It won't be worth doing, especially if we use a lot of money to get the jackpot. If we can get the jackpot, immediately think about retiring from gambling and, enjoying the winning money and using it for things that are more useful than choosing to continue gambling. Even though many people will return to gambling, we don't need to follow suit because we have to be responsible with the money we have and don't need to spend a lot of money gambling.
86  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to stop on: February 15, 2024, 04:47:17 PM
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In my opinion, there are two times when you stop gambling, when you win and when your gambling ends in defeat. When we get a win we have to stop because the win must be used as well as possible, the best action to get a win is to cash it in, and for example, if you still want to gamble, hopefully you can cash out some of the winnings first and save a little to gamble again, but if you continue gambling then end up losing, so don't deposit the money back, it's not recommended. It's true what you said, this also requires good self-control to be able to restrain yourself so that continued gambling doesn't occur.

Yes, there are many people who do gambling with normal intentions, but when something happens, it makes them greedy, which ultimately leads them to losses that's right, gambling must be done as well as possible, don't gamble for too long, because in my opinion, gambling that is done for a long period of time is not good it might affect our thinking which will make us too obsessed with winning to the point that we gamble. to pursue victory Therefore, knowing when to stop gambling is necessary, so that undesirable things don't happen, such as big losses.
Both of them should be able to make people stop their gambling activities, but this is not the case because people will instead be triggered by the results they get so that they will continue their gambling games. They should be able to stop gambling when they have won and not chase bigger wins because they have already won. It is better for them to immediately withdraw their winnings and enjoy it rather than continue to gamble without knowing for sure. If they lose, they must immediately stop their gambling activities rather than continue to gamble because that could make them lose more money.

Yes, you are right because gambling can change people who previously just wanted to have fun from gambling, but instead, they get deeper into gambling and can't stop themselves. That is what many people experience. So many of them experience gambling addiction, and it is difficult to cure it. Whatever result they get, they must immediately stop gambling and leave the casino so that they don't think about coming back for another round because that could trigger them to gamble for more rounds.
87  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: February 15, 2024, 04:20:27 PM
It's true that this kind of mindset must be changed, in my opinion they can use the money they have for other more important things,  not double it in gambling, I think the gambling they do must use money which is really money not money for other needs. because there are people who don't have money to buy food or buy snacks for themselves but they use the money they set aside for other things with the thought of doubling up on gambling and in my opinion that's not the right solution.

Yes, that's true, if we don't have a job then it's best to just look for a job, even though looking for a job is difficult, but if we are sure then we can definitely get a job, instead of doubling our money in gambling that is not yet clear, it can give us profitable wins. So it's best not to force gambling especially to solve financial problems, it's not recommended at all It's possible to gamble when you have enough income, instead of doubling the little money you have and hoping to get a profitable win, it can be stressful if you end up losing and the fact that losing in gambling is more dominant than winning.
If they can change their mindset by not gambling to make money, they will not experience losses that can waste all their money. They will try to find additional work that can provide them with money so that they can have more money that can be used to meet other needs. But when people are familiar with gambling and have won, they will think that gambling can make money, so when they don't have money, they will try to gamble to make money. But it won't be as easy as they think because in gambling, they can lose more than they win.

By having a job, they can make money from gambling, so they don't have to experience losing money from gambling. If they can save money from their work, slowly the money can grow and can be used for other things. They can indeed gamble as long as they are within their limits so that they will not lose a lot of money and can enjoy gambling as a fun activity. And they also won't try to gamble too often because it won't make them money so they will prefer to gamble when they are free. If we can control ourselves well, we can save the money we have to use for other, more important things so that we can prevent problems that could arise if we still gamble too often.

But what happened?
Most gamblers don't do that at all and this is not the few but the majority, it is clear that there will always be many gamblers who make mistakes and spend more money than expected.
In fact, I sure they gamble until they actually spend the money they might have prepared to meet their living needs and they will think that by gambling they will be able to double that money.
In the end, they experience financial problems that really make them hopeless and can even lead to an attitude where they dare to take out loans to survive or even try to recover from their losses, which is stupid but they are not aware of the stupidity of what they are doing.
That why I and all of us here always remind each other so that in the future no gambler here will experience this, it just that everything is the right of each individual and whatever happens is also their own responsibility, we can only just reminder.

There are quite lot of cases that have occurred and I sure that you yourself have also very often known or heard of every problem that is truly beyond reason experienced by gamblers.
This can provide learning but only for those who have awareness and also sense of responsibility to care for themselves, it is difficult to find the attitude of gamblers like this out there.
Indeed, there will be gamblers who will make mistakes and spend more and more money because they see gambling as a place to make money, which will only get them into trouble. And when they only have a little money, they will think that the little money will be used for gambling so that they can make money from gambling. Many people already think like that, but only a few people can actually make money from gambling, and others will only experience more and more losses because they are not aware of reducing their gambling activities. When they take part of the money for others need to play gambling, that's when they will experience problems because instead of the money increasing, it will only disappear at the gambling table, so they can only regret it. It was a stupid thing that they did when they should have used that little money to meet their needs, and they could have looked for a job that could make money. At least by looking for work, they still have the hope of making money rather than using that money to gamble, which cannot be achieved easily.

Yes, problems like that have occurred and are experienced by many gamblers. The problem is that other gamblers don't want to learn from their mistakes, so other gamblers also fall deeper and even lose their money. They should really regret this because it means they really lost their money without being able to recover it at all. It is a lesson for all and not just for gamblers but people who want to get to know gambling.
88  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investment in gambling on: February 15, 2024, 03:46:07 PM
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That's true, considering gambling as an investment is certainly not true, because gambling will only reduce their finances. with so many people gambling, they hope that the gambling they do will generate profits, even though there is a chance of profitable winnings in gambling, it cannot be determined with certainty. Also, if they have excessive expectations, it can actually make them addicted to gambling, where they can gamble too much and that will be detrimental to themselves.

Maybe it's because we don't have good consistency that makes more people gamble instead of investing, because profitable investments are usually investments that have a long term period. whereas humans are usually impatient with processes, especially those related to profits, they are relatively impatient, so they cannot invest for a long period of time to wait for the investment to be profitable. It's true what you said, if they can patiently wait then they can make a profit.
Gambling will only give problems to people who cannot control themselves well because they will not be able to prevent loss after loss that they will experience from gambling. And the losses will be big when they really lose control of themselves from gambling. They think they are investing in gambling even though playing gambling is not an investment but using money to try to make money, which would be difficult to get.

If people could realize that they should choose to invest rather than gamble, they would see that their investments could grow and provide profits in the future. They will not lose money from their investments as long as they have the right investments, but when they use gambling, they will only lose their money slowly and will find it difficult to recover their lost money. The important thing in investing is that they must be patient until the time is met so that they can get the profits they want.
89  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Responsible Gambling Practices Most People Ignore and Sleep on on: February 15, 2024, 03:14:56 PM
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Gambling to get rich quick has been the cause of many problem gambling cases in the industry. The more players want to hit the jackpot and live their dream life, the more their losses compile. Such gamblers hardly stop at gambling when their money exhausts, they go as hard as taking bigger loans to be able to achieve their dreams. It's a mental disorder and happens so fast in the brain of the gamblers. The need to control our emotions and fantasies for winning big, should be there in the gambler's thoughts. However, the problem most other addicts had before addiction was seeing other gamblers win the jackpot and living the life they wanted to live. Such things don't define a true gambler, who wants to have fun and feel entertained for gambling. That's why such gamblers end up in a wrong side of the game, because the route they follow is not quite the right one.
People who are thinking about getting luck from gambling should immediately forget about it because it will only give them problems, and the problems can become bigger if they really lose control of themselves. And the more people who try to chase the jackpot, they will only experience more and more losses and there is a possibility that they will also run out of money. They will also lose control of themselves, will experience lots of problems and will even become addicted to gambling. If they think about taking out a loan so they can continue gambling, it will only be in vain because the borrowed money can be used up for gambling, and they will have difficulty paying their debts. When they run out of money, they experience a gambling addiction, which will only make them want to gamble again and take loans from other people. Such a cycle must be broken by realizing that they must reduce their gambling activities so that they do not have serious problems.
90  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't make use of what you disliked because you can't stay away from it. on: February 14, 2024, 11:23:28 PM
If you never want to return to their casino again, why do you need to open an account there? Gamblers who open an account at one casino are interested for many reasons, and they will use the casino for a while, or maybe they will use it for a long time. You do not need to contact the casino to block your account because your account will be automatically blocked if you do not use it for some time. So you don't need to bother asking them to block your account. Moreover, they can check the accounts of all their members and see who is still actively gambling at the casino. If they see that you never gamble at their casino again, they will immediately close your account without asking you because they can do it easily.
91  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Responsible Gambling Practices Most People Ignore and Sleep on on: February 14, 2024, 10:52:51 PM
You first need to erase the idea of getting rich with gambling from your mind, to practice the act of responsible gambling is to expect too less of gambling.

After that, you can then proceed to using a certain sustainable amount only for gambling purpose, to keep this going for you for many years in the future you need to time yourself when gambling, what this will do is limit your attachment with gambling.

This is like a virus, because I have seem responsible gamblers going AWOL after few practices, and I figured out that they spent more time in gambling, you want to get rich? Look else where, have the hope of getting rich from something else, not gambling. If you can't do these it's better you leave gambling behind.
I agree with you in eliminating the idea of getting rich through gambling, as it will only add to the problems for those who try it. They will not be able to stop their gambling activities because they have not been able to earn much money. They will continue their gambling activities and will probably use more of their money to gamble until they can earn a lot of money. However, their desires will still be difficult to achieve because gambling is not a place to make money but only a place to have fun, so they have to think about not doing that. Otherwise, they will only lose even more money without being able to recover their losses. They should be able to gamble responsibly so that they can prevent more losses and also not experience gambling addiction problems as other people have experienced. However, we must prevent ourselves from experiencing problems from the gambling activities we do, and we can still enjoy gambling as entertainment.
92  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Management on: February 14, 2024, 10:39:12 PM
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If you do not know how to play well, nor do you know the game well, if you do not have money, you cannot even do anything in the casino and the Casino will not give you the Opportunity to win We must understand very well , now when we are clear about that, any thing, we have to have a good plan, but the plan is always something that we often don't know how to do, especially for newbies, so since money is the most important thing in a casino, we have to compensate there, with the money , there is no other way, for me the things that should be done are always under the scheme that we do to improve, if we enter a casino whatever, then we have to consider things about money , have money ready to lose, That is the main thing that one must do wisely and intelligently, there is no other way, thinking about the things that can be Generated and things can be done better, avoid the problems that can be generated, and Avoid addiction at all costs.

A person who has an addiction is very Difficult to treat , there are Always things that must be considered before doing Anything , in what I think and because for this you have to know how to be a very mature person, and from now on you Need to enter a casino because what I do is direct how much money I am going to spend , and obviously I am not going to put more money in the casino leaving out my basic rights with my family, I could not do it because it would be very irresponsible, and there is no worse things are done like this because it is the worst thing that one as the head of the family can generate. In this case, what I do is think About all my Commitments and that's why I can't go overboard with my things, therefore every time I Commit each Move it is Already with absolute management of all risks, expenses and even Strategies , because I do Plan my Strategies and everything I can do.
If we don't know how to gamble, we shouldn't gamble, let alone gamble too often, just to find out how to play it. It will only cost you a lot of money if you do not know how to play it. It would be better if you look for a gambling game that you know so that you don't have difficulty playing it straight away and setting bets that suit you. Nobody forces you to gamble, and you should be able to control your mind and not gamble because you already know that you don't know how to play it. We know that every gambler has the opportunity to win, but we cannot pin our hopes on winning from gambling because it is a difficult thing to do. We can only try to play enough gambling without having to spend a lot of money because that can cause a lot of problems to come to us. And when we experience problems, we will be confused about solving them because we are not used to managing gambling activities. That is why we must try to avoid gambling addiction because it is a very difficult problem to face, and there will be even bigger problems that we cannot imagine.

It is indeed very difficult to treat someone who is addicted to gambling, especially if he has fallen so deep into gambling that he no longer thinks about other things besides gambling. He will remain focused on gambling and will not want to do other things that are more useful to prevent him from gambling. We can't put too much money in the casino because that will only make our losses bigger, and we might not be able to accept them. It's better not to take the risk of losing more money if we can't face the risk because there will be other, bigger problems where gambling addiction will come slowly without us realizing it. If that were the case, we wouldn't be able to manage our gambling activities because everything would be a mess. That is why we have to be really careful when playing gambling so as not to experience gambling addiction and continue to manage our gambling activities well so that we can enjoy gambling comfortably and calmly.
93  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: February 14, 2024, 09:45:12 PM
Before lending, clear communication is crucial. Be honest about your own financial situation and only offer what you can truly afford to lose. Discuss repayment plans, deadlines, and potential consequences openly. This sets clear expectations and avoids misunderstandings.

Instead of a complete "no," consider alternatives. Could you offer a smaller amount you're comfortable with? Can you recommend resources like financial aid programs or budgeting tools? Setting boundaries, like offering a loan only in emergencies or not lending more than a certain amount, can be helpful.
This can be done, but it depends on the borrower because there are many of them who, after getting the money, will not return the money they borrowed because they don't feel like they are borrowing. We have met so many friends like that that even though we have spoken and communicated clearly and have been honest about our situation, they still won't return. If that's the case, we can't do anything. We can only accept it as it is and won't give him another loan.

We must be able to explain our situation, and we cannot give too many loans because we also need the money. And we also don't need to regret lending him money because we have decided to help him. And we should not use the money we have managed to meet our needs. But if we don't have extra money, we also can't borrow it and can explain our position at that time.
94  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: February 14, 2024, 05:14:17 PM
You've already taken a good first step by getting the chance to meet him in person. Even if he doesn't accept his gambling addiction, you can still remind him about his gambling addiction, and if necessary, you can show evidence that he is addicted to gambling. And if he still uses a lot of money to gamble, that is enough evidence to confirm that he has a gambling addiction, and he must stop it immediately before it is too late. He must be able to recalculate the amount of his income and expenses to see how much money he still has so that he can use that money as an allocation of funds for his gambling activities. Perhaps he needs to solve his loan problem by paying all his debts out of his income and seeing whether he still has money or has already run out of debt. You can't give him advice in a hurry because your friend seems to need to understand first about his gambling addiction, and he has a problem that is starting to become serious. After that, there must be a desire for him to reduce his gambling activities and, if necessary, not gamble anymore.
95  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How my gambling life started. on: February 14, 2024, 04:43:49 PM
Gambling activities are not the same for everyone but everyone experiences them differently. I didn't play but watched card games and those who won had a lot of fun. I have seen more gamblers who after winning a bet re-bet with the money of that bet and then it's all over. If the gambler is careful before starting the game the excitement will be less. Many gamblers have high ambitions in the early stages and lose the chance to win when they want to get more.
Everyone has different experiences, especially when it comes to gambling, especially since we live in different environments too. Some of us may have been familiar with gambling since childhood and are used to placing bets, but some people were new to gambling when crypto was launched because there were many crypto casinos at that time. But we can have fun from gambling, and as long as it is a fun activity and there is no desire to chase wins, we will not experience any problems because we just want to enjoy gambling as entertainment. When we feel the desire to continue gambling, we should immediately stop gambling activities because it will only make us spend more time and money and we might experience more losses too.
96  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where Do You Want To Go To If You Win $2 million On Lottery on: February 14, 2024, 04:15:35 PM
There is no need to move to any city or country to enjoy that $2 million because you can manage the money well to grow your winnings even bigger. You can create a new business and grow it big to make more money. This will not be difficult for you because you already know what kind of business you want to create; you already know your city well and only need a little research. And $2 million is also enough to meet your living needs, even though the prices of basic necessities will rise. If you have a new business, it can generate income for you so you can make money. You can also think about investing in bitcoin, gold, or land, which can provide additional profits for you. Try learning to become an investor because you can do it with that money.
97  Other / Off-topic / Re: Having a regular/steady income is important as a gambler. on: February 14, 2024, 03:55:42 PM
It's necessary to have a stable income in cases where the person tries to recover from their mistakes and would need funds to help themselves out of gambling addiction. Unlike a person who hasn't no form of getting funds, the income earners can easily get past their troubles by just waiting for their salary. However, it affects the productivity of the person, because his income won't be enough for him anymore. When an employee spends lots of money that he's ran out of extra funds to finance his feeding and transportation, that's a tough situation for the person. I think the gambler would have a difficult time with making the right decision both in gambling and workplace. But in all they are people who can handle the privilege very well and maintain their attitude without any much problem. Some of them still go into debt, depending on the gambling behavior of the gambler.
Those who are addicted to gambling and want to cure it must try hard to do so because it will not be easy. They must be able to resist the temptations that come and also thoughts about gambling that will continue to come and tell them to return to gambling. And if the person has a regular income, he must really be able to control himself so that he doesn't use his income just to gamble because that can make his gambling addiction worse. And of course other needs will also be disturbed because the money will be allocated to gambling in larger amounts than before, especially since he is already addicted to gambling. He really needs help to cure his gambling addiction so he can ask for help from the people around him to help him. But if he does not have a gambling addiction, he must really take good care of himself so as not to become addicted to gambling and always limit the use of money and time for gambling. No one knows when they will become addicted to gambling, but when they start gambling more often, that will make them slowly become addicted to gambling. That's what they have to avoid so that their regular income is not spent just on gambling.
98  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you make gambling a profession - a full time job on: February 14, 2024, 03:41:22 PM
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The gambler should need of some strong economy background,because the game can be loss.Because gamblers need to understand it is just a game,So losing in the game is not the big thing.But gamblers should understand their game and change their strategy with respect to the changing algorithm of the gambling site.The skill also important one for the gamblers to survive in the gambling and to make money from their time spending for the game.

Many people thought the gamblers only spending their money for the gambling.But the key factor is gamblers also spending their time which can be used for other productive activities.So only the winning can be the equivalent rewards for the gamblers spending money and time in the gambling site.The gap is essential to the gamblers to understand the changing algorithm of the gambling site.
Actually, not really because gambling can be used by everyone who wants to gamble. But it will not be as easy as imagined because people have to learn many things to use gambling properly. They must be able to control themselves and never think about using gambling as a profession, let alone to make money because that is not what gambling is for. Gambling is entertainment we can use in our free time, so we do not need to gamble. If we don't have free time, we don't need to gamble, and we still have other days to gamble.

Yes, people think that gamblers only spend their money gambling because that has happened to many gamblers. Those who spend a lot of money don't have good self-control, so they fall deeper into gambling and don't know how to get out of gambling. Gamblers really have to limit their money and time for gambling, especially if they have many other productive activities, which are routine activities that they always do. If they have routine activities, they do not need to use gambling except in their free time because it can interfere with their focus in carrying out their routine activities.
99  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investment in gambling on: February 14, 2024, 03:20:57 PM
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Yes, that's true, there are only a few people whose economic and other conditions are fine with gambling, because many of the people who gamble experience economic ruin. Indeed, gambling should only be considered as entertainment, nothing more than that, because if you consider it as more than entertainment, it can cause problems such as the loss of large amounts of money. and this has happened a lot and the case is no longer strange, I think if there are people who think of gambling as an investment, it's a ridiculous idea.

although there may be people who think that gambling is like investing or saving, where they think that with many losses there must be a win that can reverse all the losses, in my opinion there will be no end, even though they think like that I think it's just an alibi for themselves to gamble continuously. If you look at gambling and investment, they have the same side, because both of these things have the same risk of loss, such as losing the money used, but investment can be profitable if it is done with good knowledge, but with gambling there is no knowledge that can guarantee that it will can make a profit, because in my opinion gambling is completely dependent on luck but if you combine it with investing in gambling, you don't know where the profit can come from,  unless you invest in a gambling company that might make a profit. because of course gambling companies will make profits every day.
If people can use gambling properly and correctly, they will not experience economic collapse, and they can even enjoy their free time by gambling. They know that gambling should only be considered as entertainment because if they go too far in gambling, they will experience losses that they cannot afford, and that will make them regret it. However, if they consider gambling a place to invest, that is wrong because they gamble instead of saving their money in the casino. They use their money to play gambling games so that if they lose, their money will be lost, and it will be difficult for them to recover their losses.

If they want to invest, they can look elsewhere, and because we are in the right forum, they can use Bitcoin as their new investment, buy Bitcoin, and keep it. That's just the right investment because they can profit from investing in bitcoin. But only some gamblers are willing to invest their money in things they should, like bitcoin, gold, or property. Meanwhile, many gamblers still use their money to gamble and hope to win so they can get a lot of money. They need to find the right investment for them, and there is no pressure if they don't want to use Bitcoin because there are many other types of investments they can try. But before they try other types of investment or even invest in bitcoin, they need to learn everything well and correctly to make future profits. Only by studying the information they get can they make a profit, and even though it takes time, they can still make a profit as long as they can wait patiently.
100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: February 14, 2024, 02:43:04 PM
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with the fact that gambling will most likely only make them lose money, it is true that it will be difficult for them to be able to turn their situation around, also even though they are gambling, there is luck that can make them win, but this cannot be guaranteed, even if they are desperate to gamble like they do. a loan to gamble again with the aim of recovering losses does not guarantee that luck will be on their side, but what is clear is that defeat will only be on their side.

Even if they don't have money, meaning they don't have much money, that doesn't mean they have to double it in gambling, unless they can accept the loss that will definitely happen, because in many cases there are also gamblers who can't accept losing their money or can't accept the losses that occur until trigger them to gamble again Yes, that's true, we have to be able to have clear and good boundaries so that we don't experience a lot of losses, even if we really want to have a lot of money, we have to work for real, not by gambling as a benchmark that can give us consistent wins It's true what you said they can win, but it's not certain when exactly they can win Therefore if they really want to gamble, they hope they can do it sensibly and not gamble excessively which will only cause them to experience big losses.
By having the mindset that gambling because they don't have money is a mistake that must be changed immediately before they lose a lot so they can prevent that from happening. They will find it difficult to make money from gambling because gambling is not intended to make money but just for fun. If they still do it, it's only a matter of time before they see them lose all their money, even though they don't have much money. Instead, they use their money to gamble.

Doubling their money from gambling will never be easy, even if they are professional gamblers because professional gamblers will know that they will not always be able to win and get a lot of money. If many wise gamblers can handle gambling well and correctly, they will not experience losing a lot of money and can just enjoy gambling as entertainment. When they don't have a lot of money, they will prefer to look for a job that can make money rather than using their money to gamble because that will be more difficult than finding a job. They can look for additional work to make more money, and as long as they are willing to work hard, they can make a lot of money. They already understand that gambling is just an activity that doesn't have to be done regularly, especially since gambling is just entertainment.
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