https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=261027 Suggests I am an account farmer. #1, no idea what that is. #2, probably not an account farmer as I have 1 account on here.  #3, he read my old post and suggested that I was farming accounts because he MISREAD that I stated I have a few reddit accounts. #4, this place is just as shitty as r/bitcoin clearly he is a. theymos or b. riding theymos c. I won't be back to this shit ass forum. It's ironic to wreck peoples trust for literally 0 reasoning behind it.  e. - Try to give that account negative feedback, it is somehow weirdly impossible because it is an invalid url.

EH?

Haha thanks for the message, that was awesome.  Glad you joined Voat, it's a pretty cool place, although I think they have some upgrades still, the site is looking very awesome. I will do my best to keep a current circulation of up to date happenings in Canada. 
Shizzle.

Their, there and they're. C'mon man. You are legendary and can't the one right for the situation?  How many times a day do you use these words, and how can anyone take your comments seriously if you cannot figure 1 / 3 words probably used at least 10 times a day. Figure it out.

Cypherdoc? Not I.  I actually run enjoybitcoins.com, and came here to post a question and gauge the communities response. But I enjoy that you fit right in with the people around here who can see through a computer... Pretty insane skill, seem tuned right in #LOL.  You might need a tune up boss. 

Cool to note.  I can definitely see where you are coming from on those topics, not my forte, but seems like the right place to be learning.

Fair enough, thanks for the reply!

My thread is clearly a question to hear others thoughts on the subject.  At what point in my post did I suggest I wasn't going to, wasn't capable of or had intention of creating one. Didn't simply asked for peoples feelings on the subject as you would do in a forum of discussion on a topic no? eat a dick.

Consensus, decentralization and innovation.  All of which rely on discussion and debate in an open unbias environment to produce effective results and work in a positive direction.

I understand there is a lack of alternatives, and there is not a better place for up to date information.

But, in the light of Bitcoin and what it represents, neither of these platforms promote the same ideologies.  So, just curious to reach out and ask why the community continues to visit these sites?  What is your take?  Would you move to another platform? What would it take? What are your favorite alternatives?  And 170,000 odd subscribers, what # do you estimates is multiple user accounts (I personally have about 8 of those) and active Bitcoiners?

I haven't decided my stance on that whole discussion.  But the way it's been handled is biasing the debate, as well preventing innovation.  It's contradictory to everything that Bitcoin is about.

Who's being forced?  Posted a thread with my opinion, feel free to comment again and bump it, glad to speak my mind.

The best part is I wasn't.... have never added a post to that discussion, because I feel my technical skills are not enough to weigh in.  I shared a post titled "24 alternative forums and chats for Bitcoin discussion"

It was followed by a ban, then followed by a message that apologized for the ban, that I was now going to be unbanned in 3 days.  I will not be back, and will be promoting other mediums of discussion in the future. It' a shame... But perhaps the biggest shame is the fact that bitcoin relies on consensus.... To achieve consensus a community needs to have un bias discussion... There is going to be spammers, FUD, bullshit and all sorts of shit. but without seeing the shit, there is a HUGE bias within ANY debate.  As far as I am concerned, the discussion on reddit about all the latest topics including the blocksize, fork and xt client is basically useless, as there has clearly been a bias in the articles that have been filtered and without seeing both sides, the consensus is manipulated, or basically a false representation as all parties have not been able to voice opinion without a subjective approval.  r/bitcoin is basically useless in terms of quality discussion and moving in a positive direction that doesn't directly contrast with what Bitcoin stands for.

But how can we even move forward with the block size now that we can be sure that the discussion was clearly bias.  I mean, perhaps not to one side or the other, but when there is a filter on all the content, you can be sure that some sides of the debate have the short end of the stick.  all consensus is based of discussion and debate,a nd without a platform to be sure that everyone is heard, it's tough to make a judgement call on a debate.  Communication is #1 for progression in Bitcoin, and there is clearly a central flaw in the current mediums for it.

Almost down 100 in the hour.  But I agree, we need people to start posting elsewhere as opposed to just unsubbing.  Times like these I wish I could code.  Bitcoin discussion needs a new platform with a more versatile voting system that can self regulate somehow.  Votes need to have substance behind them, ie. downvote upvote requires reasoning.

Theymos controls Bitcoin discussion.  People are scared about mining, developer centralization?  What about the community discussion? The place we come to the conclusions that effect everything.  Realize in a consensus based economy, communication is #1.... So centralization of ANY other aspect of Bitcoin stems directly down from the places people are using to build opinions and voice concerns.  Communication is everything, and if it's going to be filtered, future consensus is already fucked.

Truly a shame at best what is happening here as we speak.

Umm, the same guy who is filtering r/bitcoin is the one who owns this place =)  So, I feel in some cases, that comment is kind of hypocritical.

right?  What ever happened to the votes.... They seem as though nobody cares they exist anymore.

If there is one thing that can change, is someone can work on a smart platform that self moderates, requires basis or adds substance to up and down votes by requiring a comment, or something. Today i realized a HUGE issue.  As long as the main communication platforms are running under the guise of 1 individual there will continue to be  a bias, and conversation will be filtered. That is in complete contrast with concencus and how Bitcoin will function, soooo not sure what to do here. not a programmer, or anything, but Bitcoin needs new discussion platform

It's just too bad.  Have spent a lot of time on there.  And it's sad to see it go down the drain in less than a week.  Very frustrated.  Not to mention, we shared 0 posts that were against the rules or even remotely discussed Bitcoin XT.