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August 17, 2015, 01:45:43 AM
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Today our account was banned on r/bitcoin.  It's been a solid ride of two years, and LONG days guys.  I run enjoybitcoins.com,a Bitcoin directory with nearly 200 exchanges, over 100 wallets, and almost any service supporting Bitcoin.

Today, we are banned from r/bitcoin.  This has become a place of centralization, and the last few days are really starting to shine a bright light on what happens when you have a central failure point, in this instance, not only the mods, but specifically a few who also operate  this site coincidentally.

I am very happy to say, r/bitcoin has been deleted from our directory, as basically practicing everything Bitcoin as a whole promotes the direct opposite.  Bitcoin promotes freedom, critical discussion and opinion.  It does not promote centralization or overbearing community dictators. 

Proudly unsubscribed from r/bitcoin, I encourage others to follow suit.  A truly decentralized structure surely cannot thrive with its main community practicing a culture that is in direct contrast.  Healthy discussion and practice motivations come from conversing, ideas, debate... Not filtered opinions and biased content sharing.  Audios r/bitcoin.
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August 17, 2015, 01:52:13 AM
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i must to agree, this is gonna lead to the admin abuse there.
that place was supposed not to be for the arbitrary, but today, they just wished only the posts that satisfied them, in fact the rules is not stated that.
just like what china just did to hong kong, that's ridiculous.
i guess the bitcoin forum is declining due to the matter of bitcoin XT, IIRC.

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August 17, 2015, 02:01:47 AM
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i must to agree, this is gonna lead to the admin abuse there.
that place was supposed not to be for the arbitrary, but today, they just wished only the posts that satisfied them, in fact the rules is not stated that.
just like what china just did to hong kong, that's ridiculous.
i guess the bitcoin forum is declining due to the matter of bitcoin XT, IIRC.

It's just too bad.  Have spent a lot of time on there.  And it's sad to see it go down the drain in less than a week.  Very frustrated.  Not to mention, we shared 0 posts that were against the rules or even remotely discussed Bitcoin XT.                          
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August 17, 2015, 02:29:11 AM
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Reddit is a cultural Marxist community, what did you expect?  It's the same thing as Twitter and Facebook, corporate/globalist, new world order, yada yada crap.  The second you see groups like Fox and CNN promoting a piece of technology, you know it's going to be compromised, or designed for population control or spying.

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August 17, 2015, 02:31:01 AM
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Reddit is a cultural Marxist community, what did you expect?  It's the same thing as Twitter and Facebook, corporate/globalist, new world order, yada yada crap.  The second you see groups like Fox and CNN promoting a piece of technology, you know it's going to be compromised, or designed for population control or spying.


Umm, the same guy who is filtering r/bitcoin is the one who owns this place =)  So, I feel in some cases, that comment is kind of hypocritical.
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August 17, 2015, 03:45:28 AM
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Fuck /r/bitcoin. I hope people will migrate to https://voat.co/v/bitcoin/

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August 17, 2015, 03:49:33 AM
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reddit is just getting out of hand with their nonsense recently. all these bans and topic removals are getting annoying we should all switch to voat

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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August 17, 2015, 03:55:07 AM
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Reddit is a cultural Marxist community, what did you expect?  It's the same thing as Twitter and Facebook, corporate/globalist, new world order, yada yada crap.  The second you see groups like Fox and CNN promoting a piece of technology, you know it's going to be compromised, or designed for population control or spying.


Umm, the same guy who is filtering r/bitcoin is the one who owns this place =)  So, I feel in some cases, that comment is kind of hypocritical.
This is truth. Theymos is the admin of bitcointalk and also a main mod on r/bitcoin. Let me guess, you were banned for discussing bitcoin core vs. bitcoin xt maybe?
EDIT: Ah I see you werent. So what got you banned for if I may ask? It is quite important to have whole picture of situation here.
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August 17, 2015, 04:22:17 AM
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August 17, 2015, 04:24:02 AM
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Yeah after the recent removal of all those posts, I've also unsubbed from /r/bitcoin.

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August 17, 2015, 04:29:54 AM
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Reddit is a cultural Marxist community, what did you expect?  It's the same thing as Twitter and Facebook, corporate/globalist, new world order, yada yada crap.  The second you see groups like Fox and CNN promoting a piece of technology, you know it's going to be compromised, or designed for population control or spying.


Umm, the same guy who is filtering r/bitcoin is the one who owns this place =)  So, I feel in some cases, that comment is kind of hypocritical.
This is truth. Theymos is the admin of bitcointalk and also a main mod on r/bitcoin. Let me guess, you were banned for discussing bitcoin core vs. bitcoin xt maybe?
EDIT: Ah I see you werent. So what got you banned for if I may ask? It is quite important to have whole picture of situation here.



The best part is I wasn't.... have never added a post to that discussion, because I feel my technical skills are not enough to weigh in.  I shared a post titled "24 alternative forums and chats for Bitcoin discussion"

It was followed by a ban, then followed by a message that apologized for the ban, that I was now going to be unbanned in 3 days.  I will not be back, and will be promoting other mediums of discussion in the future. It' a shame... But perhaps the biggest shame is the fact that bitcoin relies on consensus.... To achieve consensus a community needs to have un bias discussion... There is going to be spammers, FUD, bullshit and all sorts of shit. but without seeing the shit, there is a HUGE bias within ANY debate.  As far as I am concerned, the discussion on reddit about all the latest topics including the blocksize, fork and xt client is basically useless, as there has clearly been a bias in the articles that have been filtered and without seeing both sides, the consensus is manipulated, or basically a false representation as all parties have not been able to voice opinion without a subjective approval.  r/bitcoin is basically useless in terms of quality discussion and moving in a positive direction that doesn't directly contrast with what Bitcoin stands for.
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August 17, 2015, 04:32:39 AM
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r/bitcoin is toxic, it's full of high school kids that prefer to bash and berate other posters instead of focusing on anything constructive.
Let them boil in their own stew, it's better here at bitcointalk.

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August 17, 2015, 05:49:40 AM
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Oh Please, do not be a drama queen. State your case here, and we can discuss it. Why were you banned from the
r\Bitcoin  Huh
I have been banned from several sub-reddits before for promoting Bitcoin and I am still around doing my thing.
It's one thing promoting a concept, but there are general rules and if you do not adhere to it, you will get banned.

The Bitcoin XT people are flooding r\Bitcoin with their propaganda now and it's getting annoying now, so the mods most probably banned people who brigade the sub with Bitcoin XT stuff to make a point.

Speak your mind, but do not force yourself and your opinion onto other people. They will decide on their own, which client they want to run. 


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August 17, 2015, 06:01:12 AM
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Oh Please, do not be a drama queen. State your case here, and we can discuss it. Why were you banned from the
r\Bitcoin  Huh
I have been banned from several sub-reddits before for promoting Bitcoin and I am still around doing my thing.
It's one thing promoting a concept, but there are general rules and if you do not adhere to it, you will get banned.

The Bitcoin XT people are flooding r\Bitcoin with their propaganda now and it's getting annoying now, so the mods most probably banned people who brigade the sub with Bitcoin XT stuff to make a point.

Speak your mind, but do not force yourself and your opinion onto other people. They will decide on their own, which client they want to run. 



It feels to me that the ban is not his only problem. The underlying problem is overmoderation of the reddit page.. It is doing more bad than good, and that is in nobodies interest...
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August 17, 2015, 06:22:34 AM
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The best part is I wasn't.... have never added a post to that discussion, because I feel my technical skills are not enough to weigh in.  I shared a post titled "24 alternative forums and chats for Bitcoin discussion"

It was followed by a ban, then followed by a message that apologized for the ban, that I was now going to be unbanned in 3 days.  I will not be back, and will be promoting other mediums of discussion in the future. It' a shame... But perhaps the biggest shame is the fact that bitcoin relies on consensus.... To achieve consensus a community needs to have un bias discussion... There is going to be spammers, FUD, bullshit and all sorts of shit. but without seeing the shit, there is a HUGE bias within ANY debate.  As far as I am concerned, the discussion on reddit about all the latest topics including the blocksize, fork and xt client is basically useless, as there has clearly been a bias in the articles that have been filtered and without seeing both sides, the consensus is manipulated, or basically a false representation as all parties have not been able to voice opinion without a subjective approval.  r/bitcoin is basically useless in terms of quality discussion and moving in a positive direction that doesn't directly contrast with what Bitcoin stands for.
I feel you man. But we need to understand something, every internet forum with A LOT of users will sooner or later reach critical mass and troll and idiots will prevail while constructive posters will be minority.
I've seen identical comments about bitcointalk in the past. You can't have discussion on the highest level with only people who know what they are talking about and are programmers, economists and scientist.
Maybe your ban was a mistake? You tried to PM theymos about it? If this is only effect of you posting that "24 alternative forums and chats for Bitcoin discussion" post then I don't believe you were rightfully banned.
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August 17, 2015, 06:29:02 AM
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Oh Please, do not be a drama queen. State your case here, and we can discuss it. Why were you banned from the
r\Bitcoin  Huh
I have been banned from several sub-reddits before for promoting Bitcoin and I am still around doing my thing.
It's one thing promoting a concept, but there are general rules and if you do not adhere to it, you will get banned.

The Bitcoin XT people are flooding r\Bitcoin with their propaganda now and it's getting annoying now, so the mods most probably banned people who brigade the sub with Bitcoin XT stuff to make a point.

Speak your mind, but do not force yourself and your opinion onto other people. They will decide on their own, which client they want to run. 



Yet you call that propaganda .... And censor any discussion is ok..... Hypocrisy much?
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August 17, 2015, 06:37:42 AM
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r/bitcoin is toxic, it's full of high school kids that prefer to bash and berate other posters instead of focusing on anything constructive.
Let them boil in their own stew, it's better here at bitcointalk.
yes dud, at least we will not get our posts to be deleted by random reason, because they knew that in here they would be called admin abuse.
and we would have much more liberty.

we are under the unfair situation, we should probably assume that they are abusing their power(only those people who did not do their work accurately).

out of ability to use the signature, i want a new ban strike policy that will fade the strike after 90~120 days of the ban and not to be traced back, like google | email me for anything urgent, message will possibly not be instantly responded
i am not really active for some reason
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August 17, 2015, 06:43:54 AM
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I hope anyone read this thread to TAKE ACTION and stop using /r/bitcoin. Also spread info on all of the social media channel to inform others
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August 17, 2015, 06:48:04 AM
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Today our account was banned on r/bitcoin.  It's been a solid ride of two years, and LONG days guys.  I run enjoybitcoins.com,a Bitcoin directory with nearly 200 exchanges, over 100 wallets, and almost any service supporting Bitcoin.

Today, we are banned from r/bitcoin.  This has become a place of centralization, and the last few days are really starting to shine a bright light on what happens when you have a central failure point, in this instance, not only the mods, but specifically a few who also operate  this site coincidentally.

I am very happy to say, r/bitcoin has been deleted from our directory, as basically practicing everything Bitcoin as a whole promotes the direct opposite.  Bitcoin promotes freedom, critical discussion and opinion.  It does not promote centralization or overbearing community dictators.  

Proudly unsubscribed from r/bitcoin, I encourage others to follow suit.  A truly decentralized structure surely cannot thrive with its main community practicing a culture that is in direct contrast.  Healthy discussion and practice motivations come from conversing, ideas, debate... Not filtered opinions and biased content sharing.  Audios r/bitcoin.


You know theymos the moderator on r/bitcoin owns this forum too and has admin access to bitcoin.org :-) I and 10,000 other bitcoiners appreciate your contributions.

This is crazy I think your luck is just a result of some moderators lack of experience.




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Today our account was banned on r/bitcoin.  It's been a solid ride of two years, and LONG days guys.  I run enjoybitcoins.com,a Bitcoin directory with nearly 200 exchanges, over 100 wallets, and almost any service supporting Bitcoin.

Today, we are banned from r/bitcoin.  This has become a place of centralization, and the last few days are really starting to shine a bright light on what happens when you have a central failure point, in this instance, not only the mods, but specifically a few who also operate  this site coincidentally.

I am very happy to say, r/bitcoin has been deleted from our directory, as basically practicing everything Bitcoin as a whole promotes the direct opposite.  Bitcoin promotes freedom, critical discussion and opinion.  It does not promote centralization or overbearing community dictators.  

Proudly unsubscribed from r/bitcoin, I encourage others to follow suit.  A truly decentralized structure surely cannot thrive with its main community practicing a culture that is in direct contrast.  Healthy discussion and practice motivations come from conversing, ideas, debate... Not filtered opinions and biased content sharing.  Audios r/bitcoin.


You know theymos the moderator on r/bitcoin owns this forum too and has admin access to bitcoin.org :-) I and 10,000 other bitcoiners appreciate your contributions.

This is crazy I think your luck is just a result of some moderators minions lack of experience.





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