Any update?
I opened a dispute and can escalate it to a claim after 3PM EST on Friday...will update thread. Anyone have any suggestions on how to approach this...I plan to call them right after escalating to a claim. Should I say exactly what it was and that I was unaware of the digital goods policy, and even send them this thread to see he is clearly scamming? Or say that I didn't notice his note and that I was actually expecting physical goods, maybe physical bitcoins? I really have no idea what the best approach is. You were an idiot to not file a dispute right away and to actually believe his story you had to wait 48 hours or whatever. Paypal generally will side with you if you were obviously scammed if the funds have not been withdrawn from the account. However, since its been so long and you've obviously been slow with this matter, the funds are 99.99% gone from the account. So now it leaves two options: 1) You take the hit for the $1000+ scammed pull here or 2) PayPal takes the hit for the $1000+ scammed pull here Obviously PayPal is going to fight and make sure they aren't on the losing end of the stick here. Sorry OP but good luck with this one. I would get the police involved but even then you're 99% screwed here. I opened the dispute on Monday which was the first business day after the transaction (Friday). We'll see what happens...I will update next time there is something to report. |
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Just got the email my steaks were shipped. Can't wait!
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You sent all 4btc in paypal to him?
Yes |
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Damn...I feel pretty stupid.
I wasn't really worried because all I hear about is how risky Paypal is for the seller and the buyer can easily chargeback any time...I figured if he tried to scam I could always just dispute. I had no idea about the digital goods policy.
Don't give up and make chargeback. I'm sure calling paypal and so , then you can get your money back. also if money wasn't sent via friend/family,then you have big chance to win this. I disputed the charge but not sure if I'll have much luck. |
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Damn...I feel pretty stupid.
I wasn't really worried because all I hear about is how risky Paypal is for the seller and the buyer can easily chargeback any time...I figured if he tried to scam I could always just dispute. I had no idea about the digital goods policy.
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Meanwhile, if your interested.I could help you out.
won't do more than $100; via paypal.
but could help.
Can escrow the bitcoin if your not wanting to send first again.
Thanks for the offer...I am going to wait to get this sorted out first before I do any other deals. What are my options if he does not send the bitcoin? Well, since you sent with a credit card, you're in pretty good shape. First try PayPal - an unauthorized transaction claim or an item not received claim if you can convince them you purchased a physical item. If that doesn't work, just go to your credit card and it's pretty hard to lose, especially with Amex. Hmm...looks like I'm definitely being duped then...bc in the invoice he sent me this is the note he put: Note from merchant Please pay mentioned amount for the consultancy services i provided !! there is no physical goods involved in this !! Didn't even know the significance of the physical good part. Are you saying that I cannot get paypal to reverse it now since the invoice says that? Even if I say he was supposed to send me BTC and did not send it? Yeah, that means you're pretty much not going to win that sort of claim. Amex takes care of their customers. You won't lose with them. Well in this case I am completely F'ed because instead of going the CC route, I used this thing called Paypal Credit because they offered me 6 months with no payments or interest for anything over $100 Well now I don't have any more money for any BTC...I am done with BTC...can't believe this. Everyone please leave trynmpo negative feedback, he was a green trusted prior to this transaction. |
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Meanwhile, if your interested.I could help you out.
won't do more than $100; via paypal.
but could help.
Can escrow the bitcoin if your not wanting to send first again.
Thanks for the offer...I am going to wait to get this sorted out first before I do any other deals. What are my options if he does not send the bitcoin? Well, since you sent with a credit card, you're in pretty good shape. First try PayPal - an unauthorized transaction claim or an item not received claim if you can convince them you purchased a physical item. If that doesn't work, just go to your credit card and it's pretty hard to lose, especially with Amex. Hmm...looks like I'm definitely being duped then...bc in the invoice he sent me this is the note he put: Note from merchant Please pay mentioned amount for the consultancy services i provided !! there is no physical goods involved in this !! Didn't even know the significance of the physical good part. Are you saying that I cannot get paypal to reverse it now since the invoice says that? Even if I say he was supposed to send me BTC and did not send it? |
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Meanwhile, if your interested.I could help you out.
won't do more than $100; via paypal.
but could help.
Can escrow the bitcoin if your not wanting to send first again.
Thanks for the offer...I am going to wait to get this sorted out first before I do any other deals. What are my options if he does not send the bitcoin? |
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That's a high risk loan, good luck.
I bought them from him, not a loan. |
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Has the person you sent the fiat to confirmed they have received the fiat from you? Are they willing to send the payback amount directly to the lenders address?
They confirmed they received the money yes...I can ask them if they'd be willing to send the payback directly to a lender if that were the lender's preferred way. If they have received the fiat then why have they not yet released the bitcoin? They are waiting for the funds to reach completed status in their account Who is the seller? Like I said above if they are willing to personally guarantee they will pay me directly the appropriate amount then I may be able to help (depending on how reputable they are) Reference the thread I posted in the OP Fyi will be out for a while so may not reply for a bit |
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Has the person you sent the fiat to confirmed they have received the fiat from you? Are they willing to send the payback amount directly to the lenders address?
They confirmed they received the money yes...I can ask them if they'd be willing to send the payback directly to a lender if that were the lender's preferred way. If they have received the fiat then why have they not yet released the bitcoin? They are waiting for the funds to reach completed status in their account |
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Has the person you sent the fiat to confirmed they have received the fiat from you? Are they willing to send the payback amount directly to the lenders address?
They confirmed they received the money yes...I can ask them if they'd be willing to send the payback directly to a lender if that were the lender's preferred way. |
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I don't have collateral to offer for this but seeing if anyone can assist. I have 4 BTC I just purchased from a trusted member here coming in 12-24 hours...reference thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918319.0If possible I would like to take a loan from someone of 0.3 and will pay back + 8% interest as soon as I receive the 4 BTC (12-24 hours) So in total - Loan amount: 0.3 BTC Payback amount: 0.324 BTC You can check s1lverbox's and Marcotheminer's loan threads and will see I have taken out multiple loans from them and always paid back in full on time. Thanks. |
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Purchasing 4 physical BTC from trynmpo at preev + 6% via pp...he will ship in 1-2 days..I will confirm once received
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I'm still a bit confused by your offer...I will reply. |
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Potentially working out a deal with rugged man dan...will update thread
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I need some stuff from amazon or possibly other online websites. I will send BTC once I get an email stating the items have shipped. PM me if interested.
PM sent |
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why dont you buy directly with your credit card ?
circle
virwox
coin.mx
etc
They don't sell physical coins...only the digital currency. |
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