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January 13, 2015, 05:49:30 AM
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Don't bother selling on eBay. If you're vigilant you won't lose any coins, but you'll experience chargebacks on about 99.9% of payments. I sold fractions of a BTC to 20-30 buyers and every single one charged back. I never sent anyone BTC (because they weren't able to fulfill the requirements), but it was still a massive waste of time and resources.

It's going to be mostly compromised accounts making eBay purchases for bitcoin.

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January 13, 2015, 07:17:35 AM
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Don't bother selling on eBay. If you're vigilant you won't lose any coins, but you'll experience chargebacks on about 99.9% of payments. I sold fractions of a BTC to 20-30 buyers and every single one charged back. I never sent anyone BTC (because they weren't able to fulfill the requirements), but it was still a massive waste of time and resources.

It's going to be mostly compromised accounts making eBay purchases for bitcoin.

Sorry, but if you didn't send them bitcoin then what did you expect them to do? Let you keep their money?
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January 13, 2015, 08:03:14 AM
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I've been following this thread intently. I was scammed out of 10btc back when it was $1000 a pop. I learnt my lesson but watching this thread and others I'm left wondering are there any safe places to buy and sell btc? It's such a worrying part of btc that it's so easy to scam.

And if you just hold it, it's not really worth having at all, no matter how safe it is.

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January 13, 2015, 08:21:24 AM
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Don't bother selling on eBay. If you're vigilant you won't lose any coins, but you'll experience chargebacks on about 99.9% of payments. I sold fractions of a BTC to 20-30 buyers and every single one charged back. I never sent anyone BTC (because they weren't able to fulfill the requirements), but it was still a massive waste of time and resources.

It's going to be mostly compromised accounts making eBay purchases for bitcoin.

Sorry, but if you didn't send them bitcoin then what did you expect them to do? Let you keep their money?

Ha...no. I sent a code to the confirmed eBay address of the buyer (as explained in the description). They needed to send me that code for me to send them the BTC. This serves two purposes - one which is verifying the person controlling the account controls that address and two, the shipping time creates a waiting period where most unauthorized payment chargebacks occur.

Unauthorized payment chargebacks occurred during this waiting period on basically all of them.

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Paypal is not prohibiting digital service. They are just wont cover the loss in this area. Server hosting is part of the digital service.

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January 14, 2015, 04:24:04 PM
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Paypal is not prohibiting digital service. They are just wont cover the loss in this area. Server hosting is part of the digital service.

Any update?
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January 14, 2015, 06:20:52 PM
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Any update?

I opened a dispute and can escalate it to a claim after 3PM EST on Friday...will update thread.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to approach this...I plan to call them right after escalating to a claim. Should I say exactly what it was and that I was unaware of the digital goods policy, and even send them this thread to see he is clearly scamming?

Or say that I didn't notice his note and that I was actually expecting physical goods, maybe physical bitcoins? I really have no idea what the best approach is.

Take what I'm about to say with the understanding that someone robbed you of money...

PayPal often reverses transactions if the PayPal account has been hacked/compromised. Likewise, if you paid with a credit card and that card is reported lost/stolen, they will often reverse charges.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do here, but... You were robbed. Getting your money back isn't wrong, in my humble opinion.
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January 14, 2015, 06:27:38 PM
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Any update?

I opened a dispute and can escalate it to a claim after 3PM EST on Friday...will update thread.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to approach this...I plan to call them right after escalating to a claim. Should I say exactly what it was and that I was unaware of the digital goods policy, and even send them this thread to see he is clearly scamming?

Or say that I didn't notice his note and that I was actually expecting physical goods, maybe physical bitcoins? I really have no idea what the best approach is.
You were an idiot to not file a dispute right away and to actually believe his story you had to wait 48 hours or whatever. Paypal generally will side with you if you were obviously scammed if the funds have not been withdrawn from the account. However, since its been so long and you've obviously been slow with this matter, the funds are 99.99% gone from the account. So now it leaves two options:

1) You take the hit for the $1000+ scammed pull here
or
2) PayPal takes the hit for the $1000+ scammed pull here

Obviously PayPal is going to fight and make sure they aren't on the losing end of the stick here. Sorry OP but good luck with this one. I would get the police involved but even then you're 99% screwed here.

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January 14, 2015, 06:40:28 PM
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Any update?

I opened a dispute and can escalate it to a claim after 3PM EST on Friday...will update thread.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to approach this...I plan to call them right after escalating to a claim. Should I say exactly what it was and that I was unaware of the digital goods policy, and even send them this thread to see he is clearly scamming?

Or say that I didn't notice his note and that I was actually expecting physical goods, maybe physical bitcoins? I really have no idea what the best approach is.
You were an idiot to not file a dispute right away and to actually believe his story you had to wait 48 hours or whatever. Paypal generally will side with you if you were obviously scammed if the funds have not been withdrawn from the account. However, since its been so long and you've obviously been slow with this matter, the funds are 99.99% gone from the account. So now it leaves two options:

1) You take the hit for the $1000+ scammed pull here
or
2) PayPal takes the hit for the $1000+ scammed pull here

Obviously PayPal is going to fight and make sure they aren't on the losing end of the stick here. Sorry OP but good luck with this one. I would get the police involved but even then you're 99% screwed here.

I opened the dispute on Monday which was the first business day after the transaction (Friday).

We'll see what happens...I will update next time there is something to report.
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January 14, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
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Any update?

I opened a dispute and can escalate it to a claim after 3PM EST on Friday...will update thread.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to approach this...I plan to call them right after escalating to a claim. Should I say exactly what it was and that I was unaware of the digital goods policy, and even send them this thread to see he is clearly scamming?

Or say that I didn't notice his note and that I was actually expecting physical goods, maybe physical bitcoins? I really have no idea what the best approach is.

You can say whatever it was. Just say you were duped and he took your money. But you have to CALL. They will shut you down through dispute. Say it was a computer mining contract and they never came through and lead you along. Be honest and say you got screwed and need help.
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January 14, 2015, 07:11:56 PM
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Any update?

I opened a dispute and can escalate it to a claim after 3PM EST on Friday...will update thread.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to approach this...I plan to call them right after escalating to a claim. Should I say exactly what it was and that I was unaware of the digital goods policy, and even send them this thread to see he is clearly scamming?

Or say that I didn't notice his note and that I was actually expecting physical goods, maybe physical bitcoins? I really have no idea what the best approach is.

You can say whatever it was. Just say you were duped and he took your money. But you have to CALL. They will shut you down through dispute. Say it was a computer mining contract and they never came through and lead you along. Be honest and say you got screwed and need help.

Thanks...I am going to call them today and will update thread on what they say.
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January 14, 2015, 07:14:51 PM
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Any update?

I opened a dispute and can escalate it to a claim after 3PM EST on Friday...will update thread.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to approach this...I plan to call them right after escalating to a claim. Should I say exactly what it was and that I was unaware of the digital goods policy, and even send them this thread to see he is clearly scamming?

Or say that I didn't notice his note and that I was actually expecting physical goods, maybe physical bitcoins? I really have no idea what the best approach is.

You can say whatever it was. Just say you were duped and he took your money. But you have to CALL. They will shut you down through dispute. Say it was a computer mining contract and they never came through and lead you along. Be honest and say you got screwed and need help.

Thanks...I am going to call them today and will update thread on what they say.

Can you post the PP address in a scam accusation to make sure no one else gets hit with it later on when the scammer makes another account?

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January 14, 2015, 09:24:43 PM
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Any update?

I opened a dispute and can escalate it to a claim after 3PM EST on Friday...will update thread.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to approach this...I plan to call them right after escalating to a claim. Should I say exactly what it was and that I was unaware of the digital goods policy, and even send them this thread to see he is clearly scamming?

Or say that I didn't notice his note and that I was actually expecting physical goods, maybe physical bitcoins? I really have no idea what the best approach is.

You can say whatever it was. Just say you were duped and he took your money. But you have to CALL. They will shut you down through dispute. Say it was a computer mining contract and they never came through and lead you along. Be honest and say you got screwed and need help.

Thanks...I am going to call them today and will update thread on what they say.

Can you post the PP address in a scam accusation to make sure no one else gets hit with it later on when the scammer makes another account?

Sure, I will do that shortly.

Re: the call to paypal...I just got off the phone with them. They have escalated it to a claim today rather than having to wait until Friday. I don't want to give any more details here for certain reasons but PM me if interested.
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January 17, 2015, 03:40:06 PM
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Be careful seems suspicious
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January 18, 2015, 12:05:49 AM
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Be careful seems suspicious

I'm not sure what your commenting on? Lol
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January 18, 2015, 12:46:21 AM
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Any new updates on the situation?

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February 07, 2015, 08:42:15 PM
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WTF <<<<  Shocked My Account was compromised !! please reveal details of the person who scammed you !! i was on vacation from November !! my account is fully FUCKED UP !!
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WTF <<<<  Shocked My Account was compromised !! please reveal details of the person who scammed you !! i was on vacation from November !! my account is fully FUCKED UP !!

Need some pretty epic proof, sorry, could be a good scam.
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February 07, 2015, 11:59:32 PM
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WTF <<<<  Shocked My Account was compromised !! please reveal details of the person who scammed you !! i was on vacation from November !! my account is fully FUCKED UP !!

Need some pretty epic proof, sorry, could be a good scam.

Even if it was a hacker who took control of his account, he'd be responsible for the damage dome while the hacker had control of his account.
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February 08, 2015, 02:02:00 AM
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WTF <<<<  Shocked My Account was compromised !! please reveal details of the person who scammed you !! i was on vacation from November !! my account is fully FUCKED UP !!

Need some pretty epic proof, sorry, could be a good scam.

Even if it was a hacker who took control of his account, he'd be responsible for the damage dome while the hacker had control of his account.
Most likely hacker could change password & email to keep account, just to scam more or so :x
But he don't have any proof.

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