What a strategy to have a constructive post copying the same post by other members. There should be a punishment to these user.
But I think, for me getting some several lines from others and combined them is fine as long as it make sense and not off topic. Atleast they made a little effort. But copying the same post and just pasting it which they didn't made any effort have a penalty. Just my 20cents (This is only my opinion, of course im not doing it)
A basic rewriting script can also be used. There are many out there free to download and people write their own. For example. Take the post I am quoting. Running it through a one pass rewrite app; this is what it generated all on its own, I made no changes to it myself.
Original Post What a strategy to have a constructive post copying the same post by other members. There should be a punishment to these user.
But I think, for me getting some several lines from others and combined them is fine as long as it make sense and not off topic. Atleast they made a little effort. But copying the same post and just pasting it which they didn't made any effort have a penalty. Just my 20cents (This is only my opinion, of course im not doing it)
Bot Rewrite Version of Original Post What a system to have a valuable post duplicating the same post by different individuals. There ought to be a discipline to these client.
Be that as it may, I think, for me getting exactly a few lines from others and consolidated them is fine the length of it bode well and not off point. Atleast they tried. However, duplicating the same post and simply gluing it which they didn't attempted have a punishment. Simply my 20cents (This is just my feeling, obviously im not doing it)
No it's not perfect, but its passable as a "non first language english" person perhaps. Honestly, I feel every day more and more the content I see online, whether on twitter, news posts, blogs, everywhere, its not a human at all. Scary. And to think it's just the begining. |
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I can imagin anyting I want. Yes asking someone for id could be so they track and kill or rob him. They have be en valid cases of similar things happening. If someone could go from 130btc to 0btc, why cant someone go from 0.01 btc to 80 btv or more. Why apply the logic on one side only.
Dosnt matter if those scammers pay or not. There are still scammers. People win bigger amounds on betking and jd and I dont har this shit
Yea, it's like when you are playing 2x and you get 27 reds in a row. They say "you were unlucky". But if you were betting with double on win, as in, stack your winnings into next bet, and started with just 0.00000010 and got 27 greens. They would say "Impossible. Exploit!". Yet the odds, roughly the same. The payout. More than 80BTC. |
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I didn't want to post this here until we had finished our investigation but the user did indeed exploit us. I extended an offer to kekeke to return the funds before I post all our findings. I have a feeling you'll see an update from me tomorrow. I wanted to put an end to the ridiculous amount of FUD on this thread for the time being.
I'm sorry I didn't post this earlier but I wanted to keep quiet for the sake of our investigation. Also, thank you to the majority of people here who gave us benefit of the doubt.
I'm simply curious. Stunna, you've been at this how many years?
PD4 didnt change anything. You added a "animation script slider", changed colors, and moved the elements, chat area, and menu options around.
Nothing server wise, in terms of seeds, hashes, back end, encryption, or even the layout for betting changed- at all.
How is it that people are able to exploit a site thats been running for 3 years, and has made God knows how much money.
I say publicity stunt. Just like Hufflepuff. It's all smoke and mirrors folks. Exploit? Seriously. There are no exploits. |
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When they feel like it. I love all the explanations. If you skim the forum. There are outages like every 3-5 days. - It's an issue with the DNS updating, no control over that.
- It's an issue with our hosting company.
- It's an issue with cloudflare.
I'd love them to just say:"Guys, we don't have our act together. Why? Well we honestly don't give a sh*t. We are going to end up taking all of your money regardless. We can run a half baked site, downtime all the time, no notice, never take responsibility, blame it on cloudflare, while we hold your money... Oh and if you have a complaint, go cry to your mother. Now bug off I'm watching the game and drinking a beer". |
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PD Down?  This time down from a long time, this is very bad when mod or any official don't have time to make update about it, why it goes down and what is the reason for it, it seems this problem from server or serious from back-end, players are getting panic with this problem which have big amount into their account. I dont think theres a need to panic. It goes down multiple times per week for hours. Yeah still doing some maintenance regularly. Micro, You used the term edit (mainetenance regularly). Is there any reason why you guys don't pre-announce it, as in "In 30 minutes site will go down" Or is it just PD policy to just disappear from the web and freak out your players/customers. Just wondering I lost money again !!! If someone say anything before the maintenance users stop playing and they don't lost money !!! We lost and primedice win !!! Yea, I mean, if you were in a sequence or martingale, if you cant see your bets or know where you were at... depends on whats there when site comes back. Official PrimeDice Announcement regarding vanishing (for now 2 hours):Yeah still doing some maintenance regularly. LOL |
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PD Down? This time down from a long time, this is very bad when mod or any official don't have time to make update about it, why it goes down and what is the reason for it, it seems this problem from server or serious from back-end, players are getting panic with this problem which have big amount into their account. I dont think theres a need to panic. It goes down multiple times per week for hours. Yeah still doing some maintenance regularly. Micro, You used the term edit (mainetenance regularly). Is there any reason why you guys don't pre-announce it, as in "In 30 minutes site will go down" Or is it just PD policy to just disappear from the web and freak out your players/customers. Just wondering |
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PD Down? This time down from a long time, this is very bad when mod or any official don't have time to make update about it, why it goes down and what is the reason for it, it seems this problem from server or serious from back-end, players are getting panic with this problem which have big amount into their account. I dont think theres a need to panic. It goes down multiple times per week for hours. |
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I think all bots on primedice are dead/broken. Their API is not currently functional.
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which is why it is always recommended to change your seed anytime before you do a roll
No it's not. As long as you set your own client seed after the server has committed to a seed (by providing you a hash of it), there's no point in updating your seed each time. That's the whole point of the nonce system. The only caveat would be that if you're playing in a predictable fashion, the server could "look into the future" and know how you are going to perform, and possibly take action Which is exactly what I had used as an example scenario. PD knows all future bets in advance. I just find it downright odd, that a website has to go dark, totally offline, for an hour a day, or every other day. I can't think of any site I know of that is "dark" like this. Either their tech people are seriously not on point, or something fishy is going on, or so I would think. I mean, if a huge, HUGE website, like Facebook has a full makeover, huge upgrade, the downtime is pre-announced, well in advance, and there is likely little to no outage. I ran a website, and when I did upgrades, there was no downtime at all, the site was built, and then if redone, the index page was the last thing to be changed, which linked into the already built and pre-tested new version. Update that simple landing page, and boom, new site up. Meh, it would take much more than an hour if you wanted to fake bets and stuff. Maintenance is always crucial for a website and maybe it's not worth it to have another server online when doing maintenance on the main one (especially when we're talking about a thing like betting ...). Maintenance? As in what? What needs maintenance? And if it does, why is it not pre-announced here, or in the chat. "Maintenance will begin in 30 minutes and last approximately 1 hour". Very bizarre. I better not have to set a new seed. |
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which is why it is always recommended to change your seed anytime before you do a roll
No it's not. As long as you set your own client seed after the server has committed to a seed (by providing you a hash of it), there's no point in updating your seed each time. That's the whole point of the nonce system. The only caveat would be that if you're playing in a predictable fashion, the server could "look into the future" and know how you are going to perform, and possibly take action is this the reason why if you are using same bet pattern and you keep on winning the time of uncounted losing streak will happen? just got curious because i did use martingail system from my small bankroll calculated the possible losing streak up to 15 rolls and start the game and after maybe 20-30 minutes 22 straight loss happen i really didn't take that much because of the small bankroll but when read your reply saying that the system will anticipate you in the future it concerned me now. thanks. The odds of a 22 streak (roughly) if you were betting 60 rolls per minute for 30 minutes and were betting 2x are 1 in 5000 chance. |
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which is why it is always recommended to change your seed anytime before you do a roll
No it's not. As long as you set your own client seed after the server has committed to a seed (by providing you a hash of it), there's no point in updating your seed each time. That's the whole point of the nonce system. The only caveat would be that if you're playing in a predictable fashion, the server could "look into the future" and know how you are going to perform, and possibly take action Which is exactly what I had used as an example scenario. PD knows all future bets in advance. I just find it downright odd, that a website has to go dark, totally offline, for an hour a day, or every other day. I can't think of any site I know of that is "dark" like this. Either their tech people are seriously not on point, or something fishy is going on, or so I would think. I mean, if a huge, HUGE website, like Facebook has a full makeover, huge upgrade, the downtime is pre-announced, well in advance, and there is likely little to no outage. I ran a website, and when I did upgrades, there was no downtime at all, the site was built, and then if redone, the index page was the last thing to be changed, which linked into the already built and pre-tested new version. Update that simple landing page, and boom, new site up. |
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Have to change our seed again? That stopped me from hunting 9900x with +12k reds. This happened to me twice so far. In the past I did the same hunt and got more than 25k reds and suddently they forced me to change the seed. And now, it happened again! I dont wont to get the same problem again in the future, so I wont hunt 9900x again at Primedice!
Develop new method that doesnt need to wait too much rolls to win! x100 or x990 maybe better!
Yea, I see no reason why if they are transfering over the database (as in the site) including the bet logs, history, etc, why they can't just transfer the seeds over as well. Such a small piece of data when when looking at the big picture of whats in their rolls database. But they do seed changes from time to time. Perhaps they see a win coming that is too big. It is not about the server being transferred but I believe it is because someone won huge from 0.01 btc to 80 btc so I think stunna is securing the seed by changing it therefore to be fair player needs to change their seed once again or the site will not be a ' provably fair ' site if they change it without telling the player Forcing a seed change resets the outcome of all future bets. Once a seed is set, all bets you will make with those seeds are already generated. They can take the client seed, server seed, and any random nonce (roll) say 54,202nd roll and get 44.52 the exact roll. All in advance. So if a player is playing say 9900x and at max payout... which I think is 20BTC, they could, see that in 200 rolls the player will hit it, and hit a 2nd 9900 only 200 bets later resulting in a 40BTC payout to the player. Server down. Change Seeds folks, we had to update our Database! You dont seem to know about provably fair. The roll number is not generated only from server seed, the roll number is actually generated from server seed + client seed so if they change the server seed and doesnt let the player change the server seed before playing that that is an obvious cheating The roll number is the roll number. Period. It's called the nonce. The hash is generated from the server seed which is unknown to the player (the hash is provided), the client seed, and the roll number. If you have the server seed, and the client seed, which PD does prior to any roll, add any roll number and you can hash it and get the result (what the roll will be). The roll is not generated. Its a variable number that increases by 1 every roll that you make with a given seed. I understand provably fair. |
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Have to change our seed again? That stopped me from hunting 9900x with +12k reds. This happened to me twice so far. In the past I did the same hunt and got more than 25k reds and suddently they forced me to change the seed. And now, it happened again! I dont wont to get the same problem again in the future, so I wont hunt 9900x again at Primedice!
Develop new method that doesnt need to wait too much rolls to win! x100 or x990 maybe better!
Yea, I see no reason why if they are transfering over the database (as in the site) including the bet logs, history, etc, why they can't just transfer the seeds over as well. Such a small piece of data when when looking at the big picture of whats in their rolls database. But they do seed changes from time to time. Perhaps they see a win coming that is too big. It is not about the server being transferred but I believe it is because someone won huge from 0.01 btc to 80 btc so I think stunna is securing the seed by changing it therefore to be fair player needs to change their seed once again or the site will not be a ' provably fair ' site if they change it without telling the player Forcing a seed change resets the outcome of all future bets. Once a seed is set, all bets you will make with those seeds are already generated. They can take the client seed, server seed, and any random nonce (roll) say 54,202nd roll and get 44.52 the exact roll. All in advance. So if a player is playing say 9900x and at max payout... which I think is 20BTC, they could, see that in 200 rolls the player will hit it, and hit a 2nd 9900 only 200 bets later resulting in a 40BTC payout to the player. Server down. Change Seeds folks, we had to update our Database! |
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It is just a routine downtime, will be back very soon when it will be finished, on this forum most of the people are familiar with kind downtime problem, so have patience nothing will go into wrong direction. Can you name one other site in the world that has routine downtime like PD? As in daily outages? Im just curious what they are doing. As in, why go offline? Why not just build a site and keep it online? Sometimes I feel like maybe PD is run off a tiny old win xp machine sitting in the owners garage. |
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Because it's the morning in USA and Afternoon in EU. |
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Have to change our seed again? That stopped me from hunting 9900x with +12k reds. This happened to me twice so far. In the past I did the same hunt and got more than 25k reds and suddently they forced me to change the seed. And now, it happened again! I dont wont to get the same problem again in the future, so I wont hunt 9900x again at Primedice!
Develop new method that doesnt need to wait too much rolls to win! x100 or x990 maybe better!
Yea, I see no reason why if they are transfering over the database (as in the site) including the bet logs, history, etc, why they can't just transfer the seeds over as well. Such a small piece of data when when looking at the big picture of whats in their rolls database. But they do seed changes from time to time. Perhaps they see a win coming that is too big. |
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CPU usage since upgrade. I usually play on a 4 core 2.8 ghz system with 8 gb of ram, just a laptop.
Since the upgrade, I opened Windows Task Manager and looked at performance. Firefox (only page open is PD) is using 40% of the overall CPU. Thats pretty high for being on a website right? I mean, considering that the bet has to be hashed on their end (as the user doesnt have the server seed), why does it tie up nearly half my system?
When not betting/auto-rolling, firefox usage drops to roughly 0-1%.
I have animations turned off btw.
PD is currently in it's daily downtime/offline, but just thought I'd ask if anyone else noticed the cpu issue since the new launch.
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It is always the case when well known service or site update their whole layout - people usually get mad, why? Because they are accustomed to he old look.
I have seen people complain about new YouTube layout or new Google functionality just because they were so familiar with the old one.
Just wait, and everyone after some time won't even remember how the old layout looked like.
Every version we've launched we have gotten a similar reaction. Primedice 1 was entirely broken and featureless and users complained when PD2 effectively created dicing as it is today. The new version is not perfect but it's a step in the right direction and we're closely following user feedback and have in house developers working on some patches to improve the experience. We do appreciate all the feedback though and I promise we've been looking through and considering all of it. Personally the site has grown a bit on me. It would be (or would have been) really nice to have had it tested out, or beta tested (with fake money on a separate small fresh database), and allowed some of the betting bot programmers (which you allow) to re-script and debug, and also work out the bugs, before launching. I'd have to say that's my biggest issue, is the way I liked to bet, is no longer available on primedice, because I used one of the many public available bots. So for now I have to use a site I dont trust as much, but until the dev of the bot can update, I have no other option. Hopefully it will get worked out in time. |
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It is refreshing and I love how it looks, but I dont think its fair to "play" with peoples money like that if its still in beta testing. Isn't that the whole point of a beta test ?  I think that is the general sentiment. That, how could a site like PD launch when not 100% opperational. Sure they can point fingers at cloudflare, but really, where does the buck stop? PrimeDice. Did they not test the site first? Seems no. It would seem to me that using a simple opening page, that redirects to the "PD4" version could have been used, and only used once the site was 100%. I mean, when companies update their websites, you never see a transation like this. It's seamless. |
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PrimeDice PD4 was released today. While the site seems to be somewhat operational, how do you feel about the new site? Do you prefer it over the old? Would you switch back today if you could?
What do you love?
What do you hate?
Poll Away!
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