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Did you all see $IOTA - Out the door with a 1.7 Billion Market Cap out the door..... Adoption is definitely here!
The power is in the community, the community can take VERGE wherever they want, it's not an arbitrary matter it's more like a destiny reached by intent. It's time to lift our sights to the new numbers coming in. 1.7 Billion out the door - We're starting to see the "Early Adopters" part of the adoption curve. This is not BTC holders cashing-in to a new coin, this is fresh money, BIG MONEY, starting to come in. This leaves us with a small window to stay relevant as a currency, if we don't start thinking BIG, we'll be left behind.
Just think: Let's go to work as a community and let's make this happen - many of us could be millionaires in a years' time. The Dev Team is onboard so the question at this should be "how could we speed things up"?
13 Billion will be a small Market Cap very soon, there's no stopping this thing.
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Perhaps this will help a bit in conceptualizing what now seems to be an obstacle in the minds of some. Top Ten MarketCap JUNE 5 2016:1 Bitcoin $9,023,523,867 2 Ethereum $1,106,186,856 3 Litecoin $221,930,594 4 Ripple $202,242,593 5 The DAO $150,814,757 6 Dash $51,622,441 7 Lisk $44,996,341 8 MaidSafeCoin $27,756,673 9 Dogecoin $24,687,729 10 DigixDAO $20,071,643 What happened to these MarketCaps in a years' time? In mathematical terms it's called "Logistic Function" or in other words it's the theoretical curve of adoption for a new idea or technology. Following the curve we're now entering the "Early Majority" phase. Over this phase and the next the growth is exponential in comparison to other phases in the cycle. We can then conclude, following the above theory that a 13 Billion MarketCap is not far fetched - Of course that's considering the basics remain in place; to say Active and Meaningful Development and Community Involvement and Support. As to the $1.00 mark. No particular fixation, just keeping in line with the definition of a goal: "Goal setting is the process of establishing an outcome (a goal) to serve as the aim of one's actions". I'm glad to see though that the $1.00 mark is estretching the imagination of some in this forum. #$XVGto$1.00  |
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Kryptomaniac: You have also speculation when it will have $1.00?
At this point my best guess using Everett Rogers': "Diffusion of Innovations Theory" and barring any unforeseen circumstances in the space, I say 8 months to a year. $SJCX $EMC $AEON $SHIFT |
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Interesting to see how some can offer valuation of 40 Sats. They say "the real value is:", what's this based on? What precedence? What value metrics? The fact is that with this coin the only contextual historicity we have is what's happened to other similar coins in the space; many of which have current values of 1000 Sats even in this dip.
Ongoing development, multiple Algos, possible Hybrid (PoW & PoS), Privacy Focus, possible SegWit, possible Dedicated Marketing Team and a Community of HDLRs. Remember the possibilities are brought to fruition by the community. So sell, short and take some profits if you must just make sure you don't miss hopping back on because $XVG is gonna be $1.00. To the HODLRs: "HODL ON"
What are you basing your $1 value on? In the absence of traditional valuation methods everyone at this point is pretty much feeling their way in the dark as it relates to coin prices. This most likely will continue till we start gathering more measurable outcomes and accruing some historical performance data. Wiith that said; we can, at this point, start getting some guidance based on peer coin price, performance and intent. Based on this, let's use $XRP as an example. Though sometimes touted as a functional currency Ripple is in reality a settlement token for inter bank transfers. If we take the price history over the past 2 months or so and we use the current circulating supply of coins we arrive at a ratio that provides $XVG with a $1.00 price. Now the $1 price prediction for $XVG takes into consideration the continuation of meaningful development, marketing, adoptability and community involvement. With these in place, the $1.00 price target, as far fetched as it seems to many, is a very reachable target. In fact $1 is just the beginning of greater things to come. Just think that telling people a year ago that $XRP would hit 23k Satoshis would of seem ridiculous, yet Ripple has rested at these highs. Hang tight to your Verges and get more if you can because you won't regret it. So your reasoning for $1 value is based on another coin that's purpose and intent has little similarity to XVG? Ripple's price is based purely on speculation that it will become the interbank transfer crypto currency of choice. What is XVG's differentiator? I am long on XVG, I am all for $1 XVG and currently kicking myself for selling out of a sizable holding early at around 70 SAT. In the sense of a Relational Hypotheses and the set of variables include what XRP is to settlement XVG is to transactional currency. At this point it's all speculation. Who has determined that BTC is worth $2,800.00 and ETH $400.00? Only those willing to buy a Bitcoin or an Ether today at that price because they see the potential of appreciation and another willing to sell it because maybe they've realized a profit. In the case of XVG someone's gonna feel in the near future that at the price of a dollar the coin has the potential to provide a hefty return and they're going to pay that buck. When you unloaded a hefty amount at 70 SAT the one that bought it from you might of thought they could sell it for 100 or more. Why did the one buying feel they could get 100 SATs? Because most likely after getting the basics out of the way, they wether intentional or not, did a simple review of peer coin pricing and determined that in relation to other coins Verge would appreciate. The review most likely included, current circulation, total circulation, ATH, ATL and Market Cap. So as I've mentioned before a constant aerial survey of the space, a perpetual evaluation of the days' trends and prices can lead one without the aid of historical data evaluations to start making decisions that prove to be right slightly more often than they are wrong. When I do this with XVG I see $1.00 and providing the basics don't change this remains a constant true for me even if the price today is half of what it was last week. I'm VERGED IN MAN! |
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Interesting to see how some can offer valuation of 40 Sats. They say "the real value is:", what's this based on? What precedence? What value metrics? The fact is that with this coin the only contextual historicity we have is what's happened to other similar coins in the space; many of which have current values of 1000 Sats even in this dip.
Ongoing development, multiple Algos, possible Hybrid (PoW & PoS), Privacy Focus, possible SegWit, possible Dedicated Marketing Team and a Community of HDLRs. Remember the possibilities are brought to fruition by the community. So sell, short and take some profits if you must just make sure you don't miss hopping back on because $XVG is gonna be $1.00. To the HODLRs: "HODL ON"
What are you basing your $1 value on? In the absence of traditional valuation methods everyone at this point is pretty much feeling their way in the dark as it relates to coin prices. This most likely will continue till we start gathering more measurable outcomes and accruing some historical performance data. Wiith that said; we can, at this point, start getting some guidance based on peer coin price, performance and intent. Based on this, let's use $XRP as an example. Though sometimes touted as a functional currency Ripple is in reality a settlement token for inter bank transfers. If we take the price history over the past 2 months or so and we use the current circulating supply of coins we arrive at a ratio that provides $XVG with a $1.00 price. Now the $1 price prediction for $XVG takes into consideration the continuation of meaningful development, marketing, adoptability and community involvement. With these in place, the $1.00 price target, as far fetched as it seems to many, is a very reachable target. In fact $1 is just the beginning of greater things to come. Just think that telling people a year ago that $XRP would hit 23k Satoshis would of seem ridiculous, yet Ripple has rested at these highs. Hang tight to your Verges and get more if you can because you won't regret it. |
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IFC have a lot more potential.
So far today's volume is above 3.6 million. People love this coin, just imagine what we can do with a Dev Team |
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The Twitter for IFC has 4K followers. @Infinitecoin_ this needs to be revived? Who's in charge of this account - Please stand up and start Tweeting!
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IFC have a lot more potential.
WE NEED A WORD FROM DEVELOPMENT |
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Interesting to see how some can offer valuation of 40 Sats. They say "the real value is:", what's this based on? What precedence? What value metrics? The fact is that with this coin the only contextual historicity we have is what's happened to other similar coins in the space; many of which have current values of 1000 Sats even in this dip.
Ongoing development, multiple Algos, possible Hybrid (PoW & PoS), Privacy Focus, possible SegWit, possible Dedicated Marketing Team and a Community of HDLRs. Remember the possibilities are brought to fruition by the community. So sell, short and take some profits if you must just make sure you don't miss hopping back on because $XVG is gonna be $1.00. To the HODLRs: "HODL ON"
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Yes I agree I with those avove, basically as long as the dev remains invested and active, this could easily could go to 300 -500 satoshi.
I don't think it can go much farther than that, but you have to set small goals
And the signs for this are good: Ongoing advertising campaign like the ad in coinomi, RSK implemention in July, updated wallets and so on We need to get the word out: Tweet, Snap, Face; whatever it takes.... Adoption has a lot to do with community not just Devs. Marketing needs to come into play right alongside development. We HODLRs need to HODL through the roller coaster ride. Stay focused on the long term reward not the immediate one. Let's reverse the old adage to "Dollar Wise Penny Foolish". We're gonna see that $1.00 price point, I know to some it seems impossible but just hang tight and let's keep working, we're gonna get there. |
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Understandable why you Devs would feel as they do. But if Devs are unable to continue with this coin or all Devs still available that are simply unwilling to rise to the occasion should now propose the forming of a new Dev team. As leaders we need to be strong and courageous, that means we have to pass the test of adversity. The adversity for the current Dev Team has been GREAT BUT TODAY IS A NEW DAY and if you look for it, new strength and power is available - right now. The TIMING for IFC had not yet come but is definitely here right now. A strong Dev team now needs to be in place along with a marketing Guru. The new Dev Team if one needs to be formed in the absence of the old one, would have to be willing to accept IFCs as donations or any other form of Dev funding. The team would have to be believers in what their developing. With new Dev and Marketing and Old Coin like IFC can gain traction to fulfill the original intent: Electronic Cash. It's not too late yet, but the window of opportunity will soon close, so if anything happens it needs to happen quickly.
We need to see the fact that IFC is hitting new highs, has great daily volume and all this is happening even without an active Dev Team. Just imagine the possibilities with Dev and Marketing. My head is not in the clouds with all I'm saying but like anything else success is the product perseverance and effort. It won't be easy but it's definitely possible.
To all you HDLRs, those that have millions of IFCs, just think this coin could be worth $.10 in the near future how much would your bag be worth? There's only a few coins left where a non WHALE could acquire millions of and IFC is one of them. So I say to the community at large if you don't believe this could happen maybe you should consider getting out now and to those that believe let's support a Dev Team and let's get excited about this Darn thing.
This. There are many coins out there with devs working around the clock that can't even reach infinitecoin's current marketcap and volume. Top market cap coins have enough room to grow probably up to 3 to 10 times more while infinitecoin has room to grow 50 to 10,000 times more. Relatively minimal dev work for so much potential return. Heck, just copy paste litecoin segwit code, leave it for a while, and even without marketing the price will probably soar to $0.01. We need the Dev Team to step up one more time. Just the news alone announcing that the Dev Team's back will raise price by 100 SATS. This reinvigorated Dev Team could work on the following: 1. Segwit Implementation 2. Hybrid PoW and PoS implementation 3. Additional Mining Algo allowing for ASIC like X11 (some folks oppose ASIC but I've been Mining DASH with ASIC since the first Baikal Unit and I've experienced DASH go from $2 to today's price of $152, let me tell you it feels good on the pocket) 4. Adopt some privacy code into the coin, borrow from DASH, MONERO & ZCASH Think about this: We have almost 20 BILLION LESS CIRCULATING SUPPLY THAN DOGE COIN yet their price right now is fluctuating between 120 to 165 SATS, each time peaking higher and higher. We can beat DOGE all we need is Dev commitment. What's it gonna take to get a functioning Dev Team in place? That's what we need right now. |
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Try deleting your peers.dat and restarting. RE: Everyone else wondering about the status of this coin Coinits pretty much has been telling you what is up. I put TONS of money, time, and stress into just keeping IFC alive and the userbase just took their money and ran. I haven't heard a peep from hardly anyone since 2014. I am done breaking my back for people to just leech profit and contribute nothing. People wouldn't even help moderate the forums so I shut them down. I couldn't even look at anything crypto related for about a year because this project made me sick to my stomach just thinking about it. Now that there is money to be made, again everyone pops out of the woodwork and wants progress. Even if funding were not an issue, there are significant technical hurdles required to even begin to move forward. Our previous dev (as well as myself) have had serious health issues related to the stress of managing this project. The dev is no longer interested in moving the project forward, and frankly neither am I. I tried my best to build a community around this project but I failed, and I am not going to keep carrying it alone. If you want progress, get to work, otherwise I guess you are just going to have to deal with it. tried that, it still shows that its "out of sync"... Understandable why you Devs would feel as they do. But if Devs are unable to continue with this coin or all Devs still available that are simply unwilling to rise to the occasion should now propose the forming of a new Dev team. As leaders we need to be strong and courageous, that means we have to pass the test of adversity. The adversity for the current Dev Team has been GREAT BUT TODAY IS A NEW DAY and if you look for it, new strength and power is available - right now. The TIMING for IFC had not yet come but is definitely here right now. A strong Dev team now needs to be in place along with a marketing Guru. The new Dev Team if one needs to be formed in the absence of the old one, would have to be willing to accept IFCs as donations or any other form of Dev funding. The team would have to be believers in what their developing. With new Dev and Marketing and Old Coin like IFC can gain traction to fulfill the original intent: Electronic Cash. It's not too late yet, but the window of opportunity will soon close, so if anything happens it needs to happen quickly. We need to see the fact that IFC is hitting new highs, has great daily volume and all this is happening even without an active Dev Team. Just imagine the possibilities with Dev and Marketing. My head is not in the clouds with all I'm saying but like anything else success is the product perseverance and effort. It won't be easy but it's definitely possible. To all you HDLRs, those that have millions of IFCs, just think this coin could be worth $.10 in the near future how much would your bag be worth? There's only a few coins left where a non WHALE could acquire millions of and IFC is one of them. So I say to the community at large if you don't believe this could happen maybe you should consider getting out now and to those that believe let's support a Dev Team and let's get excited about this Darn thing. |
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Just a healthy corrections guys don't get weakhands dev team is active just hodl!
JUST HODL! I Like that! The fact is there aren't many coins left in the space with such good metrics, fundamentals and price point as $XVG. Right now one can buy 1 million $XVG with relative ease, next month for the same person only 100k will be affordable and so on.... Next thing you know the coin's worth $.10 - I've experienced this quite a few times over the past 12 months (mostly during the last 3 months). To hodl VERGE is a wise move. Pump & Dumpers will Pump and Dump, the coin will rise and drop but at the end the $1.00 is coming and there seems to be nothing anyone can do about it. So.... keep HODLng. Cool. You seem passionate. Do you think XVG will drop below 100 again, or do you think it's bottoming out? I plan to buy increase my holding. I think it won't go down below 150sat if there isn't another big DnP, because of the ongoing marketing campaign, the active development and the rsk implementation in July. 100sat is definitely not enough for a coin with this potential and my hope is that it goes up to 200sat again in July. It'll be nice to know the future, but since we don't we can rely on the next best thing: Forecasting. All that simply means is finding a mechanism by which we can be right more than we are wrong. I believe with $XVG this becomes easy. We're in a space now growing faster than the Net did. We're facing the implementation of a revolutionary technology or a disruptive one as some like to say. Verge has ongoing development, is underpriced compared to peer coins and has a growing community. Some are concerned with Market Caps, they say any substantial price hike for $XVG requires an unsupporting Cap. Personally, I feel this might be a bit shortsighted. I remember something similar being said about 256k Floppies, lol, yep I'm that old. Can you imagine a 256k anything beign absolutely mind blowing? We'll the same is going to be said about the current Market Cap of all Cryptos; there's now amazement in the space for the newly established 100 Billion Market Cap, but in reality not too distant in the future this will be the Cap of smaller coins. A coin like Verge; with continuing development, a tightly knitted community, good marketing which is leading to adoption will make my $1.00 prediction seem laughable. Some won't believe, and that's OK, they'll Pump and Dump their way out of the community and the coin will still be established. So..... Let's keep believing, let's keep holding and let us continue to push for development within the intended governance structure and see the dream come true sooner than we can all imagine. |
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Just a healthy corrections guys don't get weakhands dev team is active just hodl!
JUST HODL! I Like that! The fact is there aren't many coins left in the space with such good metrics, fundamentals and price point as $XVG. Right now one can buy 1 million $XVG with relative ease, next month for the same person only 100k will be affordable and so on.... Next thing you know the coin's worth $.10 - I've experienced this quite a few times over the past 12 months (mostly during the last 3 months). To hodl VERGE is a wise move. Pump & Dumpers will Pump and Dump, the coin will rise and drop but at the end the $1.00 is coming and there seems to be nothing anyone can do about it. So.... keep HODLng. |
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If you've followed Crypto Economy for a while you'll come to agree that traditional "Analysis" has not been a fit for what has happened in the Space. It does not reconcile to the current paradigm of the currently adopted Analytical Metrics. So with that said, I believe one has to FLY HIGH and take an aerial view of things; gain a new perspective and allow yourself to accept the "Paradigm Shift". I've put this perspective into to practice and now amazing sceneries are the order of the day.
Crypto World might crash soon but it'll only be to rise again. I believe $XVG Developers need to keep developing as they are (BTW they're kicking it) and HODLrs need to HODL, Adopt and Share the news. SEE IN A WAY WE CAN CREATE THE FUTURE. Bill Gate's dream: A PC in every home when almost no one had one, in other words he set the precedence, he created the "Analytical Metrics" he made a future. I say $XVG will be $1.00.
I have to agree with you, that technical analysis does not apply to what has been recently happening with altcoins. With a lot of noobs and all the new money that came into it, all sub 100sat coins have soared in hope of great profits and $XVG has been a part of this trend. The question is how long that trend is going to continue. I see a lot of enthusiasm in this thread and sometimes I'm not sure about where does it come from. Are there any solid fundaments behind it? You can see people claiming that the development team is great and hard working and whitepaper (actually black) is solid and that is promising bright future for this coin. Anybody is encouraged do his own research. I'm a developer, so I took a quick look on Github repos (located under https://github.com/vergecurrency) to see for myself, how development has been coming recently. What I saw did not spread my suspicions and bolster my optimism. Activity graphs on almost all repos are flat. There has not been much activity since October last year and recent activity in May is mostly about rebranding to Verge and about publishing a blackpaper and some minor changes like build configuration, release versioning, etc.. Overall Github repo doesn't show any intensive development activity. Regarding black paper, it looks like the team did not put much effort into it. The coin has been here for some time and it looks like the black paper has been created only to support recent increased interest in the coin. All that raises my suspicions that recent enthusiasm is only hype and has weak fundaments. Hype is everywhere, especially Telegram group is full of Lambo pictures . Please prove me that I am wrong  . With introduction on Poloniex and continuing influx of new money we might see prices above 1000 sat and we might have great profits. But beware the whales are waiting for cashing out too  . I've been holding some decent amount from 60 sat and I'm already excited about current value. But based on reasons above and without any serious development and adoption I'm pesimistic about price reaching 1$ even in the long term. 1. As a whole $XVG is in a Space Vertical with much interest behind it: Private Transactions. Right there partaking in the same focus of Giants (relatively speaking) in the likes of $ZCash (who just married JP Morgan), $Dash and $Monero. Private txs were the catalyst for the adoption thus far of BTC, and indicators are showing this to be the continuing trend. See Point # 2 in this article: http://www.coindesk.com/coindesk-releases-state-of-blockchain-q1-2017-research-report/2. Yes White Paper needs expansion but for now it provides clear and consice objectivity. 3. Recent development in line with Objectives: A. Tor Network, Tor Clients up and running - check B. Delivery on i2P network - check C. Electrum Clients and Servers - check D. Multi Algorithm Support allowing for a broader mining base Though I don't agree with your pessimism I understand your view. Whales will Dump Holders will Hold at the end one class will prevail. As to all the recent Enthusiasm; it's the spice of life. Enthusiasm is the fuel behind innovation and value is the incentive for Developers to rise up and create like there's no tomorrow. Yes, Value imparts new hope making dreams seem possible and this makes people work, it makes them sweat and persevere, it also provides funds for growth. Hope to see you on the moon |
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xvg, dgb , xem, 1$ coins, buy now thank me later
Even if it takes a few Bursts we're getting there |
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1000 satoshi is the next psychological barrier.
If that can be broken and prefertably supported I think 10 000 satoshi is the next major barrier.
In my opinion, there are still shitloads (sorry for vulgar expression) money on the table for grabbing.
I have been learning charts and trends for a couple years and only in crypto since Jan this year. But I agree, this is a bull market with new money like never before. Cryptos do not have a prospectus like stocks, so the upside is huge, due to there not being the old standard methods to arrive at market value. Verge is up 10x in a few days and even in crypto this usually means a rest/re-trace. But the current volume says GO to me. Trend lines, volume, and overall market looks like 400 sat by the steep line tomorrow, slow line by June 11-12. Steep trend says 600 sat by June 6th. This is an exciting time to be in the market with a good coin! Unable to post pic due to Newbie status, trend lines drawn about 6:30 PST June 4. Lol. Couldn't be more wrong apparently. A lot of people spew TA bullshit here, gotta do the analysis yourself for real odds and not follow unknown gurus If you've followed Crypto Economy for a while you'll come to agree that traditional "Analysis" has not been a fit for what has happened in the Space. It does not reconcile to the current paradigm of the currently adopted Analytical Metrics. So with that said, I believe one has to FLY HIGH and take an aerial view of things; gain a new perspective and allow yourself to accept the "Paradigm Shift". I've put this perspective into to practice and now amazing sceneries are the order of the day. Crypto World might crash soon but it'll only be to rise again. I believe $XVG Developers need to keep developing as they are (BTW they're kicking it) and HODLrs need to HODL, Adopt and Share the news. SEE IN A WAY WE CAN CREATE THE FUTURE. Bill Gate's dream: A PC in every home when almost no one had one, in other words he set the precedence, he created the "Analytical Metrics" he made a future. I say $XVG will be $1.00.   |
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34 BTC worth of $XVG on Bittrex - Check it out |
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