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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 22, 2017, 01:03:21 PM
Eth 170, we stay around 33. Should I be worried ? I am in xmr 2 years now and all the big ones go up except xmr. It should be higher then it is now I think

Stop and think about how surreal this situation really is. I bought into Monero when it was $1.60 and now it's up > 20X, yet I catch myself sometimes thinking I have missed the boat somehow.

I do not know of anything in the history of assets that has come close to the recent run-up in some cryptos. This dwarfs the South Sea bubble and the Dutch tulip mania and the dotcom bubble. Monero by itself dwarfs those bubbles but some others dwarf Monero.

I hope this means Monero will fare relatively well when the bubble bursts, as it must.
82  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What catastrophic event do you think would cause Bitcoin to drop? on: May 18, 2017, 01:26:34 PM
Bitcoin's lack of fungibility could bring it down I think.

The government could declare that certain Bitcoin that had traveled through addresses known to be used for ransoms/drug deals/terrorism was forfeit. Of course there would be no way to actually seize said Bitcoin, but this would keep that Bitcoin off the exchanges, destroying its value. Then everyone would need to worry about which Bitcoin was tainted which I think would destroy it.

This is already happening to an extent. Coinbase is closing accounts that contain tainted Bitcoin.

83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need opinion about starting the exact copy of bitcoin. on: May 15, 2017, 01:26:50 AM
Somebody already did that (in 2011). It's called ixcoin. Market cap ~ $600K. No reason to think your coin would do any better.

All viable altcoins have some variation from Bitcoin that is supposed to make them "better" than Bitcoin in some respect, and some of them are probably actually better conceived than Bitcoin. But Bitcoin has the first mover advantage that is very difficult to overcome. A new coin that copies Bitcoin exactly will appeal to nobody.
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: May 13, 2017, 10:17:01 PM
I am trying to compile a version of monerod that will run on an ancient MacBook. It will not run the current version of monerod (quits with "illegal instruction").

Searching for answers it seems that the flag "-mmacosx-version-min=10.5" might solve my problem but I can't figure out where it goes in the makefile. I think I need to change this:

release-static-mac-x86_64:
   mkdir -p build/release
   cd build/release && cmake -D STATIC=ON -D ARCH="x86-64" -D BUILD_64=ON -D CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release -D BUILD_TAG="mac-x64" ../.. && $(MAKE)

Tried inserting -D -mmacosx-version-min=10.5, changing to BUILD_64=OFF, ARCH="i386" and others but I really don't understand makefiles very well.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 09, 2017, 07:39:15 PM
Playing Devils advocate here.  Where do you get the value of bitcoin at time your trade is made?  Since bitcoin can vary by a hundred or more

That is a problem for which I'm pretty sure there's no official IRS answer. I downloaded daily Bitcoin prices (I think from Quandl) and used those. Since the IRS doesn't provide guidance for this I would hope that I'm ok as long as I use a consistent source and don't cherrypick the Bitcoin values.
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 09, 2017, 03:58:12 PM
To me, bitcoin is very different.  When you buy monero, your not selling bitcoin for USD, and then buying your monero with those USD's.  Your trading your bitcoin for moneros.  Your basis is whatever you paid for your bitcoin.  and your profit/loss is whatever you made on the sale (either bitcoin or monero) back to USD.  

To me too, but that is entirely irrelevant. What matters is what the IRS thinks. I have spent a _lot_ of time researching this, and my conclusions have led me to declare and pay taxes on all my Bitcoin profits when converting to Monero. The upside is there is less tax to pay when selling the Monero because the basis will be higher.

The IRS will rule on this and if it goes the way I think it will go, those who have claimed like kind and declared their transactions as such will face penalties and interest. For those who haven't declared those transactions at all, it could be a lot worse.

It's onerous to declare all your transactions, but there is software that simplifies it. You just download your Coinbase or Poloniex logs and it creates the IRS report.
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 09, 2017, 11:47:55 AM
I wouldn't. Of course, in my country cryptocurrency profits are for free because the high court of the EU declared cryptos as a currency (if you go on holidays outside of the eurozone, you don't pay taxes either for the foreign fiat currency you buy right?)
If the situation is different in your country, I'd argue that they aren't realized profits yet until you convert to fiat? You could still lose it all (from their perspective) so would be useless to pay taxes on income you never realized right?
But I'm not a lawyer.

In the US this is kind of a grey area. The question is whether exchanging one crypto for another is a "like kind" transaction. If you sell one pasture and buy another that is considered a like kind transaction and you don't have to pay taxes, you just carry the basis forward. But if you sell one stock and buy another that is specifically not considered like kind and you have to pay taxes.

The IRS hasn't ruled on crypto as like kind or not, but most people who have looked into it, including myself, think it's not. So if you sell appreciated Bitcoin to buy Monero you have to pay taxes on your gain in Bitcoin.  Even if you decide to claim like kind on crypto transactions you have to report the transaction to the IRS, so they will know who to come after when they finally make a ruling.

The one thing you do not want to do is fail to declare your crypto transactions to the IRS. They WILL find you.
88  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: LocalBitcoins BTC sellers being taken to court and pleading guilty on: May 03, 2017, 11:56:21 PM
So what are the rules on privately buying/selling BTC/cryptos? Were these people now facing charges doing something other than what every other user of LocalBitcoins does? Are there really any rules at all?

Bitfinex suspends cash withdrawls. Coinbase reduces their deposit/withdrawal limit from $10000/day to $15000/week for their highest level of verification. LocalBitcoins users prosecuted. Is there a pattern here?

Are we heading for a point where fiat prices of bitcoin and other cryptos are purely imaginary because there will be no legal way to cash out?
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tether/USDT Security on: April 28, 2017, 07:04:32 PM
They are a lot less vulnerable to hacking and all, but since they're centralized I they are vulnerable to seizure and the like.

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the Omni layer has a feature that allows asset issuers to seize funds. Thus, Omni layer assets (like Tether) are not subject to seizure. They can still be seized the old fashioned way though, the same way any other cryptocurrency or assets can be seized.

Tethers are supposed to be backed up by money in the bank equivalent to the circulating Tethers. It is this money that is vulnerable to seizure.
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: About the USDT on: April 23, 2017, 10:25:22 PM
Why is the price below 1 USD?

If there really is 1 USD in the bank for each 1 USDT, then it should maintain parity (absent a security threat to USDT). Even though it is partially owned by Bitfinex, I don't think they would be allowed to take those USD and apply it to Bitfinex liabilities. But Tether is incorporated in the virgin islands, I'm not sure of the legal implications, if any.

The 2 main problems seem to be their disclaiming the exchange of USD and USDT, and the fact that there is no third-party audit of the bank accounts. We are only taking them at their word that they have the reserves to back up the tether. If they have the reserves but people don't know it, a loss of confidence in tether will cause USDT to fall below the price of USD.

It really does not matter whether they have reserves or not. Read the terms of service at https://tether.to/legal. There is no mention of the reserves in the TOS but the obligation to redeem Tethers is disclaimed so there seems to be no obligation to use the reserves for anything in particular.  As I read it Tether Limited would be free to use the reserves to back up Bitfinex or to buy apartments on Park Avenue for that matter. The disclaimers are quite sweeping.
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 22, 2017, 11:21:09 PM
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Kraken launched support for tether-USD (USDT/USD) trading on March 29 and now adds 2x leveraged margin trading for this pair. Further enhancements to the margin program include higher 5x leverage for other trading pairs:

    Bitcoin-USD (XBT/USD): 5x
    Ether-bitcoin (ETH/XBT): 5x
    Ether-EUR (ETH/EUR): 5x
    Ether-USD (ETH/USD): 5x

Margin trading for USDT/USD will help drive volume and liquidity, and may improve price discovery. In the past USDT traded very near $1 USD on confidence that USDT could be redeemed 1:1 for USD from the reserves held by Tether Limited (the company behind the Tether System). However, recently USDT price has come under sell pressure because, although Tether Limited claims to maintain full reserves, the ability to redeem USDT for USD has been temporarily suspended while they transition to a new banking partner.

I don't have a clue about USDT now.

I have a clue about USDT. You might be interested in this post I wrote about it in the general altcoin discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1881199.0


Tether: not even a scam

I have a great idea for a business. I'll invite people to send me money. For every dollar they send me, I'll send them a receipt saying "Thanks for sending me your dollar. You can have your dollar back whenever you like subject to the following condition: you don't really have any right to have it back. And I promise I'll put it in my bank account and keep it there until I decide not to anymore." And people could use my thank-you notes as money!

Would this be a scam? No it wouldn't. A scam is, by definition, a deception; a scheme based on dishonesty and fraud, and I'm being completely candid about my intentions.

From the Tether FAQ:

Quote from: https://tether.to/faq (fair use applies)
How do I know my Tether is secure?

Tether is built on top of the revolutionary and cryptographically secure open blockchain technology and adheres to strict security and global government laws and regulations.

All tethers are pegged at one-to-one with matching fiat currency (e.g., 1 USD₮ = 1 USD) and are backed 100% by actual assets in our reserve account. As a fully transparent company, we publish a real-time record of all value held and transferred in and out of our reserve account.

Tethers can be securely stored, sent and received across the blockchain and are redeemable for cash (the underlying asset) pursuant to Tether Limited’s terms of service.

And here are the terms of service as they relate to the redeemability of Tethers:

Quote from: https://tether.to/legal (fair use applies)
3. Purchase and Redemption of Tethers: The Site is an environment for the purchase and redemption of Tethers. Once you have Tethers, you can trade them, keep them, or use them to pay persons that will accept your Tethers. However, Tethers are not money and are not monetary instruments. They are also not stored value or currency.

There is no contractual right or other right or legal claim against us to redeem or exchange your Tethers for money. We do not guarantee any right of redemption or exchange of Tethers by us for money. There is no guarantee against losses when you buy, trade, sell, or redeem Tethers.

So Tethers are redeemable subject to the condition that they're not. No deception here. There is a fully transparent company for you.

Also from the terms of service:

Quote from: https://tether.to/legal (fair use applies)
Limitation of Liability & Release: Important: Except as may be provided for in these Terms of Service, we assume no liability or responsibility for and shall have no liability or responsibility for any claim, application, loss, injury, delay, accident, cost, business interruption costs, or any other expenses (including, without limitation, attorneys’ fees or the costs of any claim or suit), nor for any incidental, direct, indirect, general, special, punitive, exemplary, or consequential damages, loss of goodwill or business profits, work stoppage, data loss, computer failure or malfunction, or any and all other commercial losses (collectively, referred to herein as “Losses”) directly or indirectly arising out of or related to:
   1.   these Terms of Service;
   2.   the Site, and your use of it;
   3.   the Services, and your use of any of them;
   4.   the real or perceived value of any Tethers or of digital tokens, money, or any other property used to purchase Tethers;
   5.   any failure, delay, malfunction, interruption, or decision by us in operating the Site or providing any Service;
   6.   any stolen, lost, or unauthorized use of your account information any breach of security or data breach related to your account information; or
   7.   any offer, representation, suggestion, statement, or claim made about us, the Site, or any Service by any Associate.
You hereby agree to release the Associates from liability for any and all Losses, and you shall indemnify and save and hold the Associates harmless from and against all Losses. The foregoing limitations of liability shall apply whether the alleged liability or Losses are based on contract, negligence, tort, unjust enrichment, strict liability, or any other basis, even if the Associates have been advised of or should have known of the possibility of such losses and damages, and without regard to the success or effectiveness of any other remedies.

This is obviously very well thought out! According to #4, if you "perceive" that Tethers are worth something, and they aren't, you have no recourse.  Under #5, whatever it is that Tether does, if they suddenly stop doing it, you have no recourse. And under #7, if someone from Tether told you that Tethers are worth something, and they aren't -- no recourse. Unjust enrichment? No recourse!

If Tether management decides to close up shop tomorrow and leave with the all the money, it wouldn't violate the terms of service. It's all there in black and white - no deception there!

Could the fact that Tethers are trading somewhere close to par have anything to do with the fact that some people "perceive" (see 11.4 above) that Tethers have an intrinsic value or are redeemable? Could it have anything to do with the possibility that some people "perceive" that Tether's reserves are committed to redeeming Tethers or supporting the value of Tethers? If anyone "perceives" that, it's their own fault, not Tether's!

Here's my idea again. I'll invite people to send me money. For every dollar they send me, I'll send them a receipt saying "Thanks for sending me your dollar. You can have your dollar back whenever you like subject to the following condition: you don't really have any right to have it back. And I promise I'll put it in my bank account and keep it there until I decide not to anymore." And people could use my thank-you notes as money!

Maybe not. Nobody would do that. It would be stupid.
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Tether: not even a scam on: April 22, 2017, 12:09:35 PM
I have a great idea for a business. I'll invite people to send me money. For every dollar they send me, I'll send them a receipt saying "Thanks for sending me your dollar. You can have your dollar back whenever you like subject to the following condition: you don't really have any right to have it back. And I promise I'll put it in my bank account and keep it there until I decide not to anymore." And people could use my thank-you notes as money!

Would this be a scam? No it wouldn't. A scam is, by definition, a deception; a scheme based on dishonesty and fraud, and I'm being completely candid about my intentions.

From the Tether FAQ:

Quote from: https://tether.to/faq (fair use applies)
How do I know my Tether is secure?

Tether is built on top of the revolutionary and cryptographically secure open blockchain technology and adheres to strict security and global government laws and regulations.

All tethers are pegged at one-to-one with matching fiat currency (e.g., 1 USD₮ = 1 USD) and are backed 100% by actual assets in our reserve account. As a fully transparent company, we publish a real-time record of all value held and transferred in and out of our reserve account.

Tethers can be securely stored, sent and received across the blockchain and are redeemable for cash (the underlying asset) pursuant to Tether Limited’s terms of service.

And here are the terms of service as they relate to the redeemability of Tethers:

Quote from: https://tether.to/legal (fair use applies)
3. Purchase and Redemption of Tethers: The Site is an environment for the purchase and redemption of Tethers. Once you have Tethers, you can trade them, keep them, or use them to pay persons that will accept your Tethers. However, Tethers are not money and are not monetary instruments. They are also not stored value or currency.

There is no contractual right or other right or legal claim against us to redeem or exchange your Tethers for money. We do not guarantee any right of redemption or exchange of Tethers by us for money. There is no guarantee against losses when you buy, trade, sell, or redeem Tethers.

So Tethers are redeemable subject to the condition that they're not. No deception here. There is a fully transparent company for you.

Also from the terms of service:

Quote from: https://tether.to/legal (fair use applies)
Limitation of Liability & Release: Important: Except as may be provided for in these Terms of Service, we assume no liability or responsibility for and shall have no liability or responsibility for any claim, application, loss, injury, delay, accident, cost, business interruption costs, or any other expenses (including, without limitation, attorneys’ fees or the costs of any claim or suit), nor for any incidental, direct, indirect, general, special, punitive, exemplary, or consequential damages, loss of goodwill or business profits, work stoppage, data loss, computer failure or malfunction, or any and all other commercial losses (collectively, referred to herein as “Losses”) directly or indirectly arising out of or related to:
   1.   these Terms of Service;
   2.   the Site, and your use of it;
   3.   the Services, and your use of any of them;
   4.   the real or perceived value of any Tethers or of digital tokens, money, or any other property used to purchase Tethers;
   5.   any failure, delay, malfunction, interruption, or decision by us in operating the Site or providing any Service;
   6.   any stolen, lost, or unauthorized use of your account information any breach of security or data breach related to your account information; or
   7.   any offer, representation, suggestion, statement, or claim made about us, the Site, or any Service by any Associate.
You hereby agree to release the Associates from liability for any and all Losses, and you shall indemnify and save and hold the Associates harmless from and against all Losses. The foregoing limitations of liability shall apply whether the alleged liability or Losses are based on contract, negligence, tort, unjust enrichment, strict liability, or any other basis, even if the Associates have been advised of or should have known of the possibility of such losses and damages, and without regard to the success or effectiveness of any other remedies.

This is obviously very well thought out! According to #4, if you "perceive" that Tethers are worth something, and they aren't, you have no recourse.  Under #5, whatever it is that Tether does, if they suddenly stop doing it, you have no recourse. And under #7, if someone from Tether told you that Tethers are worth something, and they aren't -- no recourse. Unjust enrichment? No recourse!

If Tether management decides to close up shop tomorrow and leave with the all the money, it wouldn't violate the terms of service. It's all there in black and white - no deception there!

Could the fact that Tethers are trading somewhere close to par have anything to do with the fact that some people "perceive" (see 11.4 above) that Tethers have an intrinsic value or are redeemable? Could it have anything to do with the possibility that some people "perceive" that Tether's reserves are committed to redeeming Tethers or supporting the value of Tethers? If anyone "perceives" that, it's their own fault, not Tether's!

Here's my idea again. I'll invite people to send me money. For every dollar they send me, I'll send them a receipt saying "Thanks for sending me your dollar. You can have your dollar back whenever you like subject to the following condition: you don't really have any right to have it back. And I promise I'll put it in my bank account and keep it there until I decide not to anymore." And people could use my thank-you notes as money!

Maybe not. Nobody would do that. It would be stupid.

93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Could someone explain with the Tether Coin / Dollar is? on: April 19, 2017, 11:53:54 AM
Please check https://tether.to/legal.  If that doesn't scare you off Tether I don't know what would.
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: how many people here are using tether? on: April 18, 2017, 04:46:20 PM
As of this moment Bitcoin is 1263 in Tethers on Poloniex and 1201 in dollars on Coinbase. If you have faith in Tethers there is an arbitrage opportunity there.
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: how many people here are using tether? on: April 18, 2017, 04:23:05 PM
If you haven't read the TOS at tether.to/legal you need to do so.

Tether specifically disclaims any obligation to redeem Tethers for money.

Most people only use tether at exchanges. They just use it when they want to go short on Bitcoins or book profits.
I doubt if anybody even visits tether.to

Tether makes a big deal about Tethers being backed 1:1 by money in the bank. How is that even relevant if there is no obligation to redeem Tethers for dollars? Has Poloniex or any other exchange pledged to support the peg? Not to my knowledge. If there is no obligation on the part of anyone to redeem Tethers at par it's just blind faith that is supporting the price.
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Lost in Translation: USDT to USD wallet on: April 18, 2017, 04:15:01 PM
Sorry, your money is gone. Coinbase does not support USDT. Most likely you sent your USDT to a Bitcoin address which is not compatible with USDT. See this

https://community.coinbase.com/t/make-sure-to-send-bitcoin-to-your-bitcoin-address-usdt-is-not-supported-by-coinbase/11815
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: how many people here are using tether? on: April 18, 2017, 01:36:55 PM
If you haven't read the TOS at tether.to/legal you need to do so.

Tether specifically disclaims any obligation to redeem Tethers for money.

98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: About the USDT on: April 18, 2017, 02:35:08 AM
Has anyone actually read the Tether Terms of Service at tether.to/legal?

Tether specifically disclaims any obligation to redeem Tethers for money.

I'm not sure what "Every tether is always backed 1-to-1, by traditional currency held in our reserves" can mean in this context.
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: January 30, 2017, 06:42:19 PM
Aargh! I just got an email from Trezor to the effect that they are now supporting Dash and ZCash. No mention of Monero. This worries me a lot.
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: CoinMarketCap.com - Market Cap Rankings of All Cryptocurrencies! on: January 28, 2017, 03:48:21 AM
You're showing some ...let's say, interesting... ads. I calculate that I could invest one bitcoin, and in one year I would own all the bitcoin in existence! Risk free! So would everyone else who invests one bitcoin!

Is there such a dearth of legitimate advertisers? Why does coinmarketcap.com, a much used and otherwise reputable site, want to get involved in this?
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