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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Bittrex and Liqui.io (BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: June 28, 2017, 06:20:56 PM
Real huge wall, probably someone cashs out or edg needs money? Are they allowed to sell more coins at certain levels of delevopment, someone knows?

This rather looks like somebody is trying to hold down the price
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 25, 2017, 09:52:56 AM
Lol, you guys who are posting only because you have their sig and want to protect your investment in it are crazy. I am not going to address anything anymore.

I don't mind how much you guys invest and lose,I was just putting the word out.

If you do not agree with their idea that does not give you the right to call it a scam or that this is not going to work. You can express your concerns and stay away. If you are right then you are going to laugh at supporters but if you are not then you should admit your mistake. This campaign of yours is not what normal debate should look like that is why nobody is taking you siriously
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 24, 2017, 05:20:57 PM
....


Like I mentioned in my own post a lot of things probably do not overlap but I wasn't going to spend time to cater my reply.

Utilities cannot be decentralized because of the grid infrastructure. Governments won't allow that.

Period.
You like BTC but governments don't . So better prepare SNC dice,bro.

wtf are you talking about ?
Stop being a shill and sell yourself only because you are getting paid 10 cents for posting by some company.

Apply your brain and think why I am mentioning such things over here. I would in a utility company and am sure understand what they are trying to do more than you.

How much is this utility company paying you to spread unnecessary FUD?

You didnt even bother to look at the project and already said it is a failure. Great job, really tells a lot about your integrity here!
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: June 24, 2017, 09:13:37 AM
One of the next ICO using WINGS will be Adex Network - 2% using WINGS Bounty App http://bounty.adex.network and 2% for forecasting & promotion more details at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1965467.msg19540248#msg19540248

 Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool


hello when we will get  the reward from bancor and how is going on with the platform Smiley... news? cheers

So anyone who joined the prediction no matter how far out it is can still get rewards? My friend is promoting this Wings prediction to me and most of our circle that involves in crypto.

in the bancor forecasting people will have their costs covered, however in future forecasts if you are dead wrong you will get close to nada and will just use up Eth.

platform is designed to reward people for being right, not wrong.
So for Bancor forecast, Everyone would be paid back tx fees. Who will pay that?  Bancor or Wings?
Does it mean Bancor rewards would be decreased by the amount spent in tx fees?

Obviously Bancor, Wings Foundation is using money for development
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LUNYR - Decentralized World Knowledge Base on Ethereum - Completed! on: June 24, 2017, 09:11:50 AM
I think something is going wrong. its upward trend is supposed to continue until this time. why did this happen? explain who will? Sad

any news about the project?  Cool

This project is long term so you cannot expect moon after two months
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Buy ChronoBank TIME on Bittrex or Liqui.io ! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: June 24, 2017, 09:08:44 AM

Which one are you reffering to?
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Bittrex and Liqui.io (BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: June 24, 2017, 09:07:41 AM
EDG is about to go to the moon, i prefer EDG over VSL, although both could go up in price, I think EDG has more upper room.

Also few weeks ago we had a talk with devs about possible problem due to high price of fees currently in Ethereum network and they are already prepairing contingency plan if this situation is not resolved by Ethereum itself which is really important message for contributors
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 24, 2017, 09:03:56 AM
Here is a post I made on another similar project. Decentralization on the grid will never work for the following reason. Some of the facts could be beyond the scope for the project, but most of them apply.

Do Not Risk a Penny on this

Here is why:
1. This is not a new idea. I work for a utility company and we have been investing billions in microgrid projects. This is exactly what it is. You create a local community / local grid, where people can support each others energy demands. The only exception here is that they are creating a decentralized buying/selling system.

BUT utility companies are never going to allow this, because it does not pay to maintain the traditional grid infrastructure.

There are already laws in place for exactly this reason, that people cannot sell their electricity to other people directly.

What this company, and other similar companies like trans active grid are doing is creating a token to make that sell-buy to get around that law(which states money isn't to be used).

Here is what will happen after. Governments will realize people are trying a way around and will BAN any asset trading that would lead to violating that law. All the money invested in these companies  and their platforms will collapse.

Utility companies in the near future will be launching microgrid systems.

2. Volatility in the Token Market:  The token that the company is selling again is not real money. They will be used in the platform they are launching, which means people will be buying and selling it ultimately leading to a market for that token on an exchange.

So if I am a person in a small society looking to participate in a decentralized energy production and buying platform, I would firstly have to buy these tokens, and then sell it to meet my real life demands.

But this  token will be traded on an exchange, the price will be volatile just like bitcoin and hence a normal person would simply not be interested in such a technology due to the price variation in the tokens. Because that could mean losing money by selling to the platform as theilr sole incentive was to be informed on who they are selling to, and getting slightly higher price than selling to utility companies.

 3. No Need for Decentralization on grid : Governments around the world buy electricity on smart grids at competitive prices. There is really no need for decentralization of grids except in third world countries where there are problems such as energy shortage etc. because utility companies have a monopoly and benefit by power outages.

But I predict that as smart grids evolve, companies like Tesla will take care of the buying/selling platform by offering something like Uber. But again that requires privatization of the grid.

And all the subsidies and incentives government provides are only to those selling and buying from the grid. They won't offer it for a private microgrid.

4. Smart Meters:
Utility companies have started providing free smart meters to its customers. What this company intends to do is use the blockchain for accounting of the electricity produced and used. But it will require customers to install separate meters which would cost a lot. Things will go wrong, and will need to be fixed.


5. Storage: Storage is currently a big issue for solar. Installing a solar system is expensive, but installing a storage system/batteries is even more expensive. Hence most of the houses that buy solar, usually do it as to only satisfy 60-70% of their electricity needs. A lot of those houses usually do not generate an excess. This means what this entire project is relying upon i.e community buying and selling is not going to be a big thing in a neighborhood. 

What I am trying to say is , that blockchain and grids is a great combination. But utility companies have already started doing and investing in it. In general there is no reason for one resident of an area to see the production/consumption of another, which means that there is no need for a decentralized electric grid system. People have meters in their home and all the data relevant to them is already transparent.

All these companies are doing great work, but I don't think a Token sale is the way to go because once the token is on an exchange, it will kill the motivation of the local resident to even participate in that purchase/sale.  What these companies need to do is find investors for a direct investment than creating an altcoin to just get more money, which I feel is the scammy part.

This guy is funny. Saying to someone SCAM without even bothering to rewrite one sentence. This post is complete COPY/PASTE. I wonder who hired him to spam around projects in Energy sector. Next time please try to adjust your post a bit so it is not complete COPY/PASTE from other thread that is doing different thing!
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Buy ChronoBank TIME on Bittrex or Liqui.io ! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: June 22, 2017, 04:53:46 PM
hello guys

i want to ask, why are so few coins?
i mean only 710k coins? can this coin be mined?

thanks in advance

Because number of TIME created was fixed on number of BTC raised
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: June 22, 2017, 04:50:04 PM
Majority of token which are on eth network has gone down in price, another reason is to acquire more wings token big holders some times dump the price to get more out of it.

Sometimes??? They do it all the time!

Yes but this is not the only reason. People I trying to buy ETH to get into different ICOs
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Bittrex and Liqui.io (BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: June 22, 2017, 10:09:54 AM
EDG Bittrex wallet is down becouse Mysterium Wallet Offline : Blockchain congestion detected.
Pump stop
Not an issue. Small maintenance. Same for some other tokens including ETH. I'm eager to see if EDG will hit $5 soon.

https://twitter.com/richiela/status/876981411420307456

Is the team reliable?
What do you think?
This will not go this successful if they are not reliable, the price itself is already giving profits to the investors,
that's how you call reliable, they do their job, which is to deliver.

Nothing delivered yet.
No source code.
Given the above factors, the current price is only expectation.

Probably the team is reliable and the product is good, still no evidences.

So working beta is nothing for you? They have more that those "big" ICOs that are selling idea for 100 mio $$
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Bittrex and Liqui.io (BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: June 21, 2017, 07:05:23 AM
There will be no successful Ethereum smart contract based casinos until the high fees problem is solved.
If all the logic is processed by smart contracts the fees will be high. The fees may be lower if some part of the game will be centralized. But it won't be a fully decentralized and fair game then.
For small bets like $5 or $10 the fees may reach $1 or more.
However, the team has probably found a solution, I don't know. But I also don't know why they keep it in secret if they really found it.
POS could eliminate the problem but nobody knows if and when POS will be implemented in Ethereum.

Short term they could move to ETC that has same features they need. But us a understand team is waiting for PoS which only Vitalik knows when will come
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Bittrex and Liqui.io (BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: June 19, 2017, 04:08:36 PM
Once again raise the issue: 1 000 000 EDG tokens will be distributed as an additional prize for bounty participants. Participants who have given us instant and honest feedback, maintained constant and efficient communication, performed in the bounty program without any attempts to shortcut or cheat (like in facebook or twitter campaigns) and in general been strong supporters/ awesome participants will be rewarded with an additional bonus. Where when?

That's still a mystery and no answer from the team.. May be no and forget this bounty as it ever existed.

I am curious about that as well
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: June 19, 2017, 01:47:39 PM
wings.ai takes forever to load trying to view my account and see if i can withdraw the wings lock on  bancor to prepare for the adex forecasting but it wont even load 2 hours pass but still none.

Stas said they will upgrade their service before next ICO
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: June 19, 2017, 11:29:56 AM
hello there.

Quite new to this, how does wings work? What can prediction markets bring to the masses?

I am not sure I can see the value of this coin and platform.

Why do we need it? Isnt it just speculation form a bunch of people? sorry for the terms used.

Sorry for all the questions, just got mentioned Wings by a friend and trying to figure out how good it is.

Gotta do some reading but appreciate any help.

Thanks!

WINGS is price discovery system for valuing stuff that is being put on the market - we begin with ICO. As well as a social proof based promotion system.

Give some though to why valuation services, or price discovery is important, then you will understand.  There are many ways to go about this, you can go to 1 person, or as in our case you can ask a crowd of people who also get a forecast rating (i.e., we can ID the experts).

So what would you rather rely on? 1 guy or 500  who are competing for the top spot?

Most prefer the latter. And for the rest they can go pay some advisor fee to some so-called "crypto-economist", underprice their ICO and get only 190 participants like BAT got.  That's about 2 orders of magnitude lower than a typical "popular" ICO these days! Smiley



One question. Us, as a crowd, were terribly wrong with Bancor. Where do you think it went wrong? I predicted something like 250k ETH but was still way off

I view it as successful because no one is viewing their project as scam and indeed they nailed it. Their ICO has hidden cap which is 250k eth .. and supposedly (I may be wrong) if they stick to their ICO term.. they should stop receive funding when the hidden cap is touch. But i think that is not our problem because as WINGS's community, we had done a great job in our part.

Yes true but still our rating will depend on our accuracy so I am wondering how will this affect us as forecasters
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 19, 2017, 08:56:54 AM
I'm sure this projects can definitely compete with many other projects, let alone supported by a manager who has proven his performance .. this is awesome for me.
Hopefully the existing projects continue to push a successfull till future.

Project feels like



 Cool
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Bittrex and Liqui.io (BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: June 18, 2017, 02:54:36 PM
What do you need to do to get the EDG dividends monthly?

Just hold EDG on your ETH address ,and you get the monthly share automatically, or do you need to do anything else?

Please help.

It's a ticket to a profit lottery. The more EDG you have, the more chances you get a cut of the profit from the casino operations.

Yes but do I need to do something other than just hold the EDG in my wallet?

Like register on some website or execute some subcode of the contract?

I am still newbie to eth contracts and I saw that each ETH contract has all kinds of sub-codes that can be executed.

Can anyone answer to my questions?

Do I need to do anything else besides holding the EDG in my ETH wallet to be eligible for the monthly dividends?

Is it automatically distributed to all EDG holders?

Wait for instructions, lounge will be online in the end of June/July
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: iDice - The Future of Ethereum Betting on: June 18, 2017, 01:07:19 PM
Why are there so many different threads?
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: iDice ICO Official Discussion! on: June 18, 2017, 01:06:49 PM
What happened with the old thread?
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LUNYR - Decentralized World Knowledge Base on Ethereum - Completed! on: June 18, 2017, 01:02:46 PM
I'm watching the LUNYR here https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/lunyr/

17 may 2017  \ Circulating Supply 2,297,853 \ Total Supply 2,703,356
18 june 2017  \ Circulating Supply 2,297,853 \ Total Supply 2,703,356

It seems that the token does not have inflation.

It will have it once platform starts to work
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