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801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 09, 2016, 03:35:28 PM
From a technical point of view ...

From a technical point of view XMR is heavily oversold, at present.
802  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 05, 2016, 07:23:25 PM
I have been out, ill, for the past ~two weeks.  Now I have a backlog of work to do, and taxes upcoming. But I just had to come here to thank that seller:

Sir, thank you, for selling XMR to me at a marvelous discount.  Without people like you I would be significantly less wealthy.
803  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 30, 2016, 04:07:18 PM
Could be, i hope i am wrong, but it tastes too much the same as last year...

Last year the facts were profoundly different.  Facts beat pareidolia every time.
804  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 30, 2016, 03:08:33 PM
I recommend IRC. Anyone with @ prefix on their name is good for escrow.
805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 30, 2016, 03:01:41 PM
Sell them to me.

4% with escrow paid. Or you can try #monero-otc at freenode.net IRC.  You should not attempt this in public.
806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 30, 2016, 02:42:17 PM
What is a good price for 50,000 monero over the counter?

Poloniex ask + 2.5% is fair.  Because that many will move marketcap by ~5%, and your VWAP should split the difference.
807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 30, 2016, 06:08:13 AM
That sounded sarcastic Wink

It's just my resting bitch face.  I get that "surely you must be joking" reaction a lot Cheesy
808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 30, 2016, 05:49:31 AM
{fevered vision}

Cool story, Bro.  Seems legit.  If so, I am imagining something like:  First XMR to 422, then ETH to 3700, then XMR to 500, then ETH to 5000, then XMR to 920.  Which bubble pops first?  You know what I would pick as the sacrificial victim - and it isn't XMR.  It seems like ping-pong-ing funds between ETH and XMR might do some dramatic things to your net worth, if you could time it right.  I might even play that game with some small change, just to say I did it.
809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 30, 2016, 02:16:19 AM
You should donate  1/2 of your holdings to the dev fund, that might speed things up.

One half of zero is zero!

And if you're short, they should contribute to you?!
810  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 30, 2016, 12:45:32 AM
how much XMR one should hold? I am adding a few btc a week at the moment.

I wouldn't worry about it as long as the usage is primarily speculation.  When there is a real economy, however, you've got to share, or you will be strangling your own golden goose.  I don't have strong principled quantitative criteria.  We're not there yet anyhow.


811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 30, 2016, 12:04:56 AM
I predict a QC threat will come right after the ubiquitous flying car.
Getting ahead of the issue can only be good for XMR.  Failing to do so can only be bad.

812  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 11:34:55 PM
Those who saved their money in Bitcoin from $1 to $8 and then stopped because they didn't want to be 'overweight in Bitcoin' surely regretted it.  The smart ones bought Bitcoin all the way up to $30 and then all the way down to $2, and then back up.

I could own more XMR than I do.  But I think that if I own too much, then it is bad for the economy and the culture.  Most people don't want to get very wealthy.  Most who do want to get very wealthy probably shouldn't.  Personally, I am trying to maximize wealth because I have a purpose for it, which I consider very important, superceding my personal interests.  But even for that purpose, there is an optimal proportion of the XMR distribution which I seek to own.  If I own more, I prefer to sell.  I currently own too much of the current distribution, but not enough of the long-term distribution, so I feel free to accumulate, in a small way, until I own an optimal proportion of the 18mm XMR distributed before maintenance rewards kick in.  As the economy grows, that notional optimum will decrease over time: When there are goods and services being transacted in XMR routinely, the velocity of the float needs to be reasonable in order for the economy to grow.  If the velocity appears to be a limiting factor, I will definitely distribute, regardless of the price.

Focusing exclusively on maximizing personal wealth is not a good plan, in my opinion.  If you are just going to waste it on hedonic excess, I think you will soon find yourself on a meaningless hedonic treadmill.  The end thereof is death.  Personally, I seek to maximize meaningfulness.  That is a diverse, complex and moving target, but philanthropy certainly helps, as do healthy interpersonal relationships, and a project agenda.

813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 10:46:37 PM
What are your reasons for talking about fiat cost averaging instead of BTC cost averaging?
For most people, their income is in fiat.  The amount which they can afford to save in crypto is an amount in fiat.  At some point they will be overweight in XMR, if they save aggressively or if XMR rises 8x, like it did during the past 15 months.  Then they should save less in XMR, to maintain diversification.

If your income and expenses are primarily in crypto, then you should consider accounting in other units, certainly.  I personally tend to mentally convert everything to gold.

814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 10:31:13 PM
Are you seriously considering that we might getting to the top? Actually at this point or will go up or we crash. But i don't see any big news except the fact of the new GUI which is promissed only months later. This is my analysis based on MACD only.

I know you are trying to be positive, most people here have XMR invested, including me. But shouldn't we look at basics?

All that matters is whether people on balance are buying or selling, and how aggressively.  That's the only "basic" fact that impacts price.  Stuff can stay overbought or oversold for a long time.  Look at November 2013 bitcoin, for example.  Look at SPX from April 2008 to March 2009.  If the buyers/sellers are not technical traders, they don't care what technical indicators are saying.  (And for every bullish technical indicator you produce, I can respond with a bearish one, anyhow.)

The major news in XMR is the hard fork.  It demonstrates that the core team's plan for managing the technical evolution of XMR is viable.  That means XMR can adapt to changing realities.  Unlike some other coins.  I am quite sure that others can enumerate a large number of other new developments in XMR, but this is the one that has me psyched.

I always recommend buying XMR.  I recommend buying it in constant dollar amounts, on a regular schedule, regardless of the price.  It's the only advice I've ever found which works for everyone, no matter how inept they are at timing.  I recommend saving regularly in XMR to several persons each week.  Sometimes I address large groups.  Sometimes I address wealthy people, and sometimes I address poor people.  Buying XMR is good for everyone.  Selling XMR is bad for everyone.  It really is that simple.

Have you ever met anyone who sold XMR and didn't regret the decision later?  If so, were they trustworthy, or a known liar?  I generally find that people who try to convince you to sell XMR are known liars, who like to buy XMR cheaply, at your expense.  Someone just bought several hundred BTC worth of XMR.  I am guessing that they know something that you and I do not know. I am definitely not going to sell any XMR right now (except for a small sum used for market-making, which I buy and sell several times every day).

If you knew the future, you would already have discounted it.  The question is not what is the known news, but what is the unknown news.  I see many events upcoming which will cause XMR to spike.  I know of no events upcoming which are not bullish for XMR.  For example:  The first major DNM to support XMR.  The first Chinese businessman to get a bullet in the head for violating capital controls with BTC.  The first exchange to offer an XMR/fiat pair.  Et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseam.  If you are not holding XMR when these things happen, it will already be too late.

EDIT: Anyhow, the chart looks pretty bullish to me, in the near term:



EDIT: Also, from klee's PnF thread:

Monero:



Price Objective for this congestion area: 0.00972


815  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 05:44:04 PM
I hope to make a much clearer and more cohesive case at a later date, but for now I must work.  The level of emotion and the rhetorical cast of the arguments I am seeing here does not inspire confidence.  Conclusions simply do not follow from the level of desire for an outcome, nor from an intense aversion to alternatives.
816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 05:12:31 PM
As far as the 'bitcoin halving pump', I am becoming increasingly convinced it might not happen at all.  
It is in progress right now, as we speak.  It starts with a volatility squeeze.
817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 29, 2016, 04:46:52 PM
Shen Noether commented this on reddit
Could you link that here, please?
818  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 04:39:13 PM
a BETTER coin, one with improved technology can replace bitcoin .... the improvement must be very significant and bitcoin needs to stagnate and fail to improve over a very long time....
If a coin can be replaced over night by another coin with better technology ...nobody is going to want to hold any significant value in any coins....People will stop buying them. If there's not faith in a currency staying around and holding value it won't hold any value at all.

You really need to distinguish a variety of cases and phases of development in order to apply that reasoning suitably.  

Firstly, we should distinguish application tokens and financial engineering vehicles from cash money.  The end-game for cash money has a well-defined fundamental valuation, with low model risk (Fisher quantity theory), whereas the model risk for app tokens and ponzis is vast, and the best case upside potential is much curtailed relative to cash money.  All crypto is now primarily a speculative vehicle, but BTC at least has a fundamental economy of some size, and that won't change suddenly.

Secondly, we should distinguish the various levels of maturity of cash money.  Gold is mature.  Debt-based national currency under centralized management is experimental, but ubiquitous.  Bitcoin is unknown to 99.95% of the potential user base, and lacks essential features, and development is stagnating.  Monero is unknown to 99.9999% of the potential user base, and lacks essential features, but development velocity is quite respectable.  Clearly the growth potential of XMR is much greater than any other instrument in operation today, if you consider the prospect of becoming the primary international medium of financial exchange to be within the realm of possibility.

The best example of crypto achieving bitcoin mcap is bitcoin, and that took 5 years.  It takes time for money to flow, and the pipes are narrow enough so that back-pressure prevents too rapid a rise in mcap for XMR.  It would take perhaps $200mm influx to bring XMR to parity with BTC.  Poloniex can handle perhaps 20000BTC/diem, max, so it would take at least two months for parity to be achieved, if everyone decided today that BTC was utterly uninteresting, and only XMR mattered.  So, if XMR will be successful similarly to BTC, with no less speed, it will take between 2 months and 3 years to get there.  Meanwhile, there is no particular reason for BTC to decline while XMR ascends.  Quite the contrary, in fact, as buying XMR requires first buying BTC.  By the time XMR reaches USD 420, BTC will almost certainly pass $1k - unless a reliable and accessible fiat exchange or three opens meanwhile.

Once XMR\fiat exchange is safe and easy, then it becomes possible for XMR to supplant BTC in most if not all of its cash money use cases.  Whether it does so will depend on the robustness of the XMR economy, relative to the BTC economy.  As the size of both economies become substantial, the speculative fraction of the value of the tokens becomes much smaller, and hence the impact of confidence is much lower.  Moreover, the transition of a large economy from one medium to another is not going to be instantaneous, so there is plenty of time for users to adapt.  BTC will never go away in any case.  It will just be used less.  It is likely to continue to grow in value even as it is overtaken by XMR.  Only when the XMR economy is substantially larger than the BTC economy does it begin to threaten the value of BTC.  And that might never happen, for all we know.  I personally consider it very likely, because privacy is only increasing in importance over time, and because XMR is much better able to adapt to changing circumstances, by virtue of its release model and team dynamics.

I have to disagree with extreme catastrophic change models, because there is a lot of inertia and the channels for money flows are so narrow.  Huge volatility, yes, always, until the economy dominates over speculative flows.  But stuff takes time, and people adapt.  BTC has strong advocates, and they will keep using it, and keep supporting its value, for a long time to come, no matter how wildly successful XMR should become.



819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 01:11:22 PM
The price of Monero is correcting and consolidating. If it stays around 0.0035 for a few months, that is good.

Also, very unlikely.  I expect XMR to gain during the BTC rally over the next two months, and to continue gaining as BTC retraces thereafter.
820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 29, 2016, 01:04:55 PM
I was surprised to see Aminorex mention (long ago) that he owned some MAID at Poloniex. Aminorex, do you still own any, or were you just trading it back then? Is it worth spending time to investigate their claims seriously?

I went through a period of promiscuous speculation before settling on XMR as the best long-term value store and private transmission technology.  I owned anoncoin, darkcoin, boolberry, and maid during that period.  I have not owned any of these for over a year now.  I speculated in ETH for a bit recently, and rolled gains into XMR.  In general I prefer my diversification to be outside of crypto.  All crypto is far too correlated to constitute diversification.  I do scale between BTC and XMR frequently, while market making, however. 

My knowledge of those coins is largely obsolete, so I will make no comments upon them now.
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