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801  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can someone teach me where have High Return Invest Program on: November 11, 2022, 06:59:02 AM
Can someone teach me where have High Return Invest Program
HYIP are scams, they may take many forms and make all kind of claims but at the end they all end the same, with the ones at the top leaving after they have stolen all the money they could take from their unsuspecting victims, now it is true that a few people can still profit from them if they invest early enough, but you do not want to be one of those people, because even if you could profit from a HYIP you will know that whatever profits you got were at the expense of other people getting scammed.
They only used that high return/yield on their names to attract greedy people but the truth is they are more on a high risk than the return. I think they are not far from pyramiding schemes. If you get lucky you can earn money on them but still, it isn't that high enough but you should learn to quit on early once you do because programs like these can collapse after some time.

OP seems serious and won't mind losing so feel free guys to gave him some HYIPs that you know. I know he will stop soon once he get tired of losing money from those scams and he will return here soon but this time he will be asking for ways to earn money in a less riskier way.
802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Eredivisie 22/23 - discussion thread on: November 10, 2022, 09:52:01 PM
In any case, PSV is on a par with Ajax at the moment, I think it's also due to Ajax's last-minute departures in the summer, when Ajax was able to earn a lot of money but couldn't react. I assume that Ajax will make one or two purchases in the winter, especially in defence (where Ajax was very strong last year), and possibly also in attack. So i think the management will act.

when ajax buys players they will be strong again, but until then PSV will create a lot of headaches for ajax, maybe even PSV can be champions
what ajax needs this time is a competent coach, I see Schreuder doesn't have a good strategy and is suitable for ajax players, but for now ajax must be able to stay in the top 3 until the season ends.
Schreuder is good coach, but he is currently having not quality players which can give him positive results so as many mentioning they need to buy few good players in next winter transfer window then surely they could be able to have positive change in team because they already sell their few quality players to Manchester United on high price but fail to have any suitable replacement, so now it's time for having changes before it's too late for them now most chances points gap could be just one point until we will start again after this break, but surely they need to do things quickly because if they lost few more matches and unable to have better players than surely PSV can widen gape and having good chance for staying up until end of this season.
803  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: investment in bitcoin should be short term or long term. on: November 10, 2022, 09:43:01 PM
Well we will all agree that Bitcoin should be a long term investment. It may feel like BTC is going to hell but in my opinion it is definitely not. It’s always hard to tell when the rebound will happen but historically bitcoin's price has responded extremely positively after every correction.
It’s hard not to let your emotions get wrapped up in it when you’ve invested into the technology. But it’s important to remain detached and objective.
The reality is after nearly every correction in the past bitcoin has reached new highs so see this is an opportunity to get in cheap. Personally, I'm not buying right now but rest assured if bitcoin drops below 15K I will consider adding more to my portfolio.
If you believe that btc will hit a very high price and you have lots of patience then you will go for long term but if you are the opposite of that then short term will be the way to go. How can you say that btc is going to hell? Because, you are seeing reds or its value is dumping a lot? Hell is not in the vocabulary of btc.

It was only the news who influenced the price of btc to drop more evenly but there will always be a force that prevents btc from falling in a very low level in case more negative news pops out. Those who have less knowledge in btc shouldn't be afraid of it but they should use this fall in price as their advantage to stack/stock up more coins.
804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 10, 2022, 08:25:51 PM
As I said in the previous post, that Leverkusen will beat the home team. After beating Union Berlin with a landslide score, Leverkusen will continue their victory when they play away to Koln. although actually Koln have a better record when they play matches at their own headquarters. but in the end, Koln was defeated in their own base. with these two results this victory, Leverkusen rose to rank 11 which was originally in the relegation zone. in this match, I won the bet to bet on Leverkusen.

Next, Leverkusen will play against Stuttgart at BayArena, their home base. Alonxo is targeting a win for the third time in a row, so their ranking will automatically rise and be in the safe zone. as for Stuttgart, they also need a win to secure their ranking from being in the relegation zone.
however In my estimation, Leverkusen will win this match.
Alonso's strategy is working for him and in first phase he is able to bring out of relegation jail which is surely positive improvement after the worst start of this season and right now if they are able to win against Stuttgart then surely they are going in middle of the league table and this could be good for the team and coach because with this success and hard work they can bring better results in coming weeks even they can challenge teams for the European competitions which was not possible with the start of the season.

Now they have good time for doing some improvements because after the break they need to be more improved side with having better results specially for the UEFA Europa Cup knock out stage where they are going to face another big club from France Monaco they have to be aggressive because they have quality and ability to fight back but need consistency which is important for positive results.
805  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Falls To Sub-$17,000 After the FTX Exchange Demise on: November 10, 2022, 06:40:21 PM
These empires and castles wouldn't last forever. It's always wrong to think that grand crypto edifices won't crumble down. CZ's empire is no exception. Sooner or later, it will have to face its own demise, too.

The history of crypto doesn't lack examples of this kind, so everybody should learn his/her lessons. Those who bought FTT and kept them in FTX had a double whammy. I hope they will finally realize the lessons this time.

But, all in all, we are all losers in this to a certain extent. Not only is this another stain in the industry's reputation, the entire market is also very badly affected. But, of course, this is also an opportunity to stack some more cheap Sats and wait for the better days.
Yes because if we think about or look on the past, so many top exchanges have also collapsed or have been de-throned. If that can happen to them then why not on the current top exchanges we have today? For us crypto users, we shouldn't think that we are losers but think of this as another opportunity. The prices are cheap again. You know the drill.

Only those who are literally losing are the ones who invest in FTT because it was the root cause of this issue. The only bad thing about this is that it give cryptos or exchanges a bad impression which can affect the rate of adoption but time heals as they say. Let's only hope for the better.
806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revenge on: November 10, 2022, 06:01:02 PM
You are the lucky one this time not getting your revenge because it will be the other way around and you will end up losing everything. In the worst-case scenario, you will end up getting a loan to take back what's yours. This is what they want, they want you to play with just a little money you have, and when you have that little amount of hunger to playback, that's when the real game begins and this is when they gonna get you your money from you by letting you play there all day long without realizing as long as you are there, you are prone to lose all the money that's in you.
He thinks the casino is lucky but he is the one that is lucky because there is no way that a casino will be beaten up. If they will close down, there will be other reasons for it. To earn a profit is one of the motive of the casino owners but other than that, I think they also care about the other. They want them to get entertained by providing them exciting games.

It's only up to the gambler if he will got carried away of his emotions. They are the only one that will lose, not the casino and they shouldn't put the blame in the casinos for this. To revenge is not good even in the outside world. We should let it pass and you will see that good things can soon come in our way.
807  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Friends and Family members want me to invest for them, help! on: November 09, 2022, 06:28:22 PM
For sure there's a possibility that they've saw something on the internet that's related into cryptocurrency and your are the one they know who have background on it, try to wait if they really want to know until a few days because sometimes getting too much excited with these large earnings makes the people get greedy and want to invest without a proper plan and also another thing it is good to teach them about those fundamentals if they really need to do so there's nothing to blame with the possible market price movement unexpectedly.
Same to what happened with my neighbour. He found out that his cousin from a far is involved in crypto and is earning good. Now he is also eager to do the same. He know that I was into crypto so he also seek advice to me but he didn't know that I am not that good at investing or trading.

I just gave him some tips instead on how to avoid potential scams and I said that it would be better if he can just invest on bitcoin and other safer cryptos but guess what? He still ended up joining scam groups and then he invest on the shitcoins provided by those groups. I was like, what the fck? He only lose all of his money but he deserve it because he can't follow simple advices.
808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can roullete be rigged? on: November 09, 2022, 08:51:42 AM
if you want a lot of money you don't have to play roulette you can invest anything to get a return on your investment, basically everyone already knows casinos will not give you a lot of money even if you play with hundreds or thousands of dollars, they have their own ways to take your money its hard to find a fair game unless maybe you bet on sports because it won't be easy to cheat, to be honest i'm not a roullete lover but it looks like you made the right decision to leave the casino before your money runs out  Grin
And you think investing is safe? There is also a risk there and it can still be considered as gambling. It's hard to earn lots of money in investing and it may take you a long time for you to do it. I think doing a business can yield you better returns or we can also do trading but again there are still risks on here.

Casinos are not built for the people to be rich but they are only built to give them entertainment so we should only treat it this way. I think you're right that it's hard to find a fair game offline but not online because we can verify each of our bets but we can also judge if they are legit or not based on the duration of their existence and based on the feedback of other gamblers.
809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: November 09, 2022, 06:53:51 AM
I feel bad for Pogba because while he failed at Manchester United, but he performed exceptionally well while playing for France hence he’ll be sorely missed. Furthermore Messi should hopefully recover in time because I’ll be gutted to see him miss his last World Cup, and lastly I hope that Varane recovers too as he’s an important player for France.
Now as we are near to start of this event injuries list is going longer specially few good players are set to miss this event which was waited by millions for four years Pogba's absence is surely going to hurt France with few more players are also missing which is surely not suitable thing, and we can hope this list will not increase near the world cup Argentina is also having few problems.

But, hopefully things could be in good shape for them as Dybala and Messi having minor injuries now we have just last round left in UEFA clubs matches which need some calm for many players and teams Messi is surely having big dream for this world cup, and we are going to watch good performance from him and his company.
810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: November 08, 2022, 08:18:36 PM
Impossible? We are not even om half season yet so there is always a good chance that everything will overturn. Chelsea need a bit of work but they are not really off the chart yet because they are only 5 points behind the 4th place so at this rate, anything could have happened and Tottenham isnt really that consistent either so yeah
Chelsea still have more chances to qualify for the top four, there's enough time for the blues to fight for it. It's just matter of injury that's affecting the team badly and it's really frustrating to see the team lose to both average and big clubs in the premier league. Graham Potter not happy and we all know that, he still needs time to set things right with the club. Tottenham is not consistent, I believe that they will drop form, the EPL is not easy this time around and every team have woken up from sleep.
Even though right now two places are open for Champions League spots third and fourth, but things are not easy for any team because competition is tough and with the arrival and performance of Newcastle United look like we are going to miss few big names with Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool and Manchester United these are candidates, but all are badly struggling which is the biggest concern for them and top three teams are having impressive run which is helping them for widening gape of points.

After many years we have one of the toughest season for top teams, and we will be able to have better view after this break because this is surely going to be amazing end of this season and now Barcelona is going to face Manchester United if they are able to pass this test then surely we can predict in next season we will have five teams in Champions League.
811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What Really Drives the Value of QATAR 2022 TOKEN (FWC)? on: November 08, 2022, 05:45:53 AM
Recently we have witnessed the rise of Fan Tokens related to the football teams on Binance. One of the most outstanding examples is Qatar 2022 Token, named after the football team in the upcoming World Cup, scheduled to be held in Qatar at the end of November this year. Especially on Pancakeswap, we can see the increasing development of this token with massive gains in such a short time. So is this project creditable or just another scam? What really drives the value of this token?
Qatar is more on a name of a country than a team and the event is also held in qatar? Cheesy. On what exchanges this coin is available? But no doubt that it's easy to access and trade on pancakeswap than any other exchanges but its also easy for the tokens to come and go on here so we must be careful buying tokens on this exchange.

You said it's development is increasing but what would that be? What is the utility of this token that they are developing? It could be possible that it is the one who drives the value of this token. Another possible thing which drives the value of this token is the hype because of the upcoming football event.
812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: November 07, 2022, 07:18:02 AM
both Manchester City and PSG are doing well in this year's Champion's League. I am expecting that both clubs will make it in the next round and no matter whoever they are fixtured to play against. The main thing that will make one of them to drop is if both are featured to play together otherwise both of them will escape the next stage of the Champions League.

Psg ending second means  some other clubs will get it difficult and it will spicy the league.
Last season it was the same for mate, both of whom were always very good in the Champions League. But you know who won the Champions League last season? And for this season, both of them have already qualified for the round of 16 and there is still the possibility of qualifying for the next round thanks to their very attractive performances. But to win the Champions League I still have a little doubt for these two teams because last season they were also very impressive in the Champions League but they didn't get good results.
Now Champions League is having just 16 teams which are going to compete for title and things are not easy to give any prediction about the winner because this is unpredictable league and any team on his day can give shocking result as we have in last season when Real Madrid win double so now again we have three teams as favourite as PSG, Bayern Munich and Manchester City but what will happen nothing is clear this title needs good performance and tough mentality then you can compete and win this otherwise you have to be done any time as we have many titles like this right now few teams are surely not good but this two months break is surely going to be had good chance for them, and we will watch good entertaining end of this season with surely winner could be best in the game on this day.
813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season on: November 06, 2022, 08:29:02 PM
Konyaspor are about to make an excellent comeback... Trabzonspor find clearer positions in the match, but Konyaspor can make a big surprise at any time. The last parts of the match are played now and the score is 2-2. Trabzonspor coach Abdullah Avci removed defender Denswil from the game and replaced him with striker Djaniny. Trabzonspor have three "striker origin players" on the field with Gomez, Umut and Djaniny. They want to put their opponents under more pressure in the last part of the match...
Two early goals through penalties were not enough for home team Trabzonspor to win this match and have three full points as Konyaspor able to have one point as Senegalese Diouf's two goals were enough for them even they were under pressure in last 30 minutes but still their defence done amazing job and have no space for Trabzonspor to win all three points which is surely setback for them and for their hopes now they have to stay seventh place their full fledge attack Gomez, Umut and Djaniny were completely failed to break defence even visitors were playing with ten men in last twenty minutes, and we have five yellow cards but no goal which is surely poor from home side in this important game.
814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have your winnings lured someone into gambling ? on: November 06, 2022, 04:55:51 PM
I had a few situations when we bet on the same event with friends and some of us lost while others won because we had different ideas about the outcome. I don't feel like any of the people who lost felt like they should follow the ones who won or anything like that. We always treated it like good fun and felt good regardless because those who won would buy drinks and stuff and we were ready to waste money that night anyway.

It's important to have fun. When you start paying for being nervous or angry it's counterproductive and I wouldn't pay any money for such experience.
How often you are doing this? If it was rarely and those friend won that time never won in the past, then we can assume that it was only luck. Nothing personals so you didn't bother of making things seriously like following their bets but I like the experiment you guys did there. Combining all your forces to beat the house and you finally beat it since some of you manage to win.

You are right, that gambling is best enjoyed with a clear mind and free of emotions. I only place my bets if I am on this kind of mood because I can easily accept my defeat if ever I didn't win. Others who have a problem in gambling should try this trick sometimes.
815  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Early Sign to Adopt Bitcoin by Nigerian Government on: November 06, 2022, 12:55:04 PM
Personally, I would say that this is a good initiative but I would conclude that it is an early sign to adopt bitcoin. Never. I know the government. What I think is that, this is definitely going to have a ripple effect on the trainees as it may lead some of them to be curious about bitcoin but it can never be the government doing so for bitcoin. They are selfish and would rather focus on resurrecting their failing Enaira.
We might not know the secret reason for this blockchain training program, but this is indeed a miracle. A government that has always crucified the crypto space linking the industry to all sorts of criminal activities. Bitcoin has been blamed for money laundering, ransom payments, and even the loss of value of the Nigerian currency the Naira. The Central Bank has backed all forms of propaganda and falsehood to discredit bitcoin.

But it seems that they have come to realize that the future of Nigeria is the youths and bitcoin and Nigerian youths have become inseparable close allies. Now they are gradually waking up from their slumber. The training program might not be the best but it is indeed a starting point for better days ahead.
I can't think of any negative reason for this sudden embracement towards cryptos. There are other countries who are like this before where they also ban cryptos and then they unban it later on. It is said that their government already realizes the benefits of cryptos, that it can help improve the economy of their country.

Now can we stop thinking negatively shall we? Participants are lucky because they can be able to travel in London only for them to understand bitcoin more and to make use of bitcoin as a currency, as stated in the description. We readers can only wish that the same thing can happen to our country soon. I mean not the banning part of course but the traveling part Grin.
816  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto investment with Stock under same roof, why not? on: November 05, 2022, 06:30:22 PM
Is there any Coinbase like crypto exchange or platform where we can buy stocks from?

Since all this while why haven't we see Stock investment with crypto investment in one open box?

Why haven't top giant exchanges like Binance or FTX implement Stock investments too?

Do you think it's stupid as a crypto investor to want to invest money on stocks too?
Stocks are not that bad depending on where you live, but they are not that amazing neither when you look at how companies may go under as well. You need to make sure that you invest into a company that will be strong even after 30 years. Stuff like IBM, Microsoft, Apple, Google (alphabet), facebook (meta), tesla, amazon and so forth.

These are all huge companies and they look like they will make a good profit. If you really want to fuse crypto and stocks together, you could buy coinbase (coin) stock as well, doing badly right now but there is a chance it could recover in the future so you could maybe get in when it's low like right now.
817  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin may drop to $15k or so but it'll definitely hit $300k+ in coming years on: November 05, 2022, 05:38:30 PM
Those who want to escape from rising inflation in countries are forced to choose some options. One of these may be seen as bitcoin.
Bitcoin will eventually come to these levels, but I think we should discuss its technology, not its price. We need to talk about the existence of blockchain, which is shown as the technology of the future. As it already takes place in our lives, it will be very normal to see these prices.
It is depressing to say this but a great deal of people do not care at all about the technology behind bitcoin and what makes it valuable, the only thing they care about is that they can obtain great profits with bitcoin, and they are part of the reason why the market still goes through such obvious cycles as those speculators only come to this market when it is clear there is a bull trend and they make the price of bitcoin to skyrocket, but once there is a slight sign the bull market is over they try to get out of the market as a way to preserve the profits they have obtained until that point.
Being a hedge against inflations must be one of the technologies behind btc and many people want to escape inflations. They consider using btc because of it. We must be happy for that because they think btc is more valuable that a fiat. For those who invest in btc to gain a profit. They are still supporting btc in a way that they put most of their fiat here but they will convert their btc to fiat again later on.

Btc grows bigger and better if there are two types of btc users than if there's only one and if people are only using their btc as a currency and wishes that volatility will go away. There are other cryptos and some of them might have surpass btc already long time ago if that happened.
818  Economy / Economics / Re: Planning on: November 05, 2022, 02:58:05 PM
We must have short term and long term plans, because humans who don't set goals in life will never achieve anything, and if we don't plan for success then basically we have planned failure.

and we also have to remember because we can only plan but God is still the one who decides, and whatever happens must be for the best, satisfied or not, the point is never give up before what you plan what will happen later. And if the plan works, it's your luck, and if it doesn't, maybe God's plan is so much better.
But, there must be people who have plans and yet they are struggling to achieve it. It can be that they lack of knowledge and resources. I feel bad about those people. There is no need to plan failure but failures can easily be obtained and even if someone already have a detailed plan, failures can still come to them. It's inevitable but it shouldn't stop us from trying again.

Many successful people have failed many times before they get to the place they have now. God planned and created everything in this world but our actions will still matter the most. One can pray for good health and wealth but if they didn't take actions to make that happen, god cant possibly give it to them.
819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Conference League 2022/23 Season on: November 05, 2022, 06:24:21 AM
West Ham is the only team to finish their 6 games in the Conference League with a win. quite prolific with 13 goals and very few conceded. although there are Fiorentina and Istanbul who are also productive and strong in scoring goals.
Besides West Ham, I'm also Villarreal's favorite. now Villarreal top group C. and their form in the League is not bad either.
West Ham isn't well in EPL, yet they managed to get all points in its group. Well teams in that group aren't top either. Same situation for Villarreal but without full points.
For the other groups, games were more challenging. Now those which ended second will have hard times facing those coming from Europa League like Lazio but also the other teams!
In current season they are struggling in Premier League but their recent few results giving good impression about their improvement which is good as they are one of the best teams in this UEFA Conference Cup no doubt they can go until last four without any doubt just because of their quality and performance but now as we have eight teams are drop from UEFA Europa Cup we have to check how things will be work for them here even I am also feeling in this season they can win this Cup and for English Premier League now they can do better as well which will help them for staying into top ten because they are still capable of this and their performance could be improved more in coming matches.
820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: November 04, 2022, 08:32:05 PM
Big win for Pakistan women. It should be a relief for them, after their infamous loss to Thailand during the women's Asia Cup. Ireland bowlers didn't had any experience of bowling in sub-continental conditions and they struggled to contain the Pakistani batters. Muneeba Ali and Sidra Ameen put up an opening stand of 221 runs before Eimear Richardson got the breakthrough. And in the second innings, only Laura Delany was able to get a start (some support from Orla Prendergast). Others had no answer against the Pakistani bowlers.
There is no doubt this was one of the best performance by Pakistani women in tense situation while we have political unrest in this country but these women's done amazing job with 335 runs with the help of 221 runs opening partnership and Sidra Ameen is now in women's cricket history book with fifth top individual scorer in this format even these women's still behind in technique and many other aspects which need quick work and some experience, but these are doing good job and have good results in last few months specially now this is their third win in last four ODI's.

PCB needs to work on few things which can give them increase in quality and performance as a foreign quality coach and increase in salaries surely will bring positive results now they are already working on WPSL which is surely an amazing thing for this region and development of the game.
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