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801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 04:24:18 PM
At this point, I am assuming that he decided to have a nuclear flameout because he can no longer maintain the perception that he isnt scamming the community.  People should have started receiving their blackcards by now, and apparently that hasnt happened.  

It's a shame really, the software looked pretty cool.

i think THAT'S the problem  Undecided

it might just be a fucking screenshot from a well-made picture  Sad

On reddit someone said that the IP of Iconic Expert pointed to india (on IRC) ...

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24vbsz/iama_maarx_project_manager_community_manager_part/chb08vu

So IconicExpert is just trying to hide is scamming by spreading false accusations ...

Remember that we have never seen his face !!  Roll Eyes


We are back to the India fud? That was debuncted on Saturday...try again
802  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 04:22:48 PM
IE

Thank you for proving me right.

You refuse to acknowledge your errors even when they are there for all to see (havent you got it yet? this one is killing you softly.....)

The only element of my post you pick up is to refute refunds.... which funnily enough, you still refuse to address as well. I'm seeing a pattern here and so are "the people" ... (killing you softly.....)

so, once again, thanks for validating my post by your refusal to answer (btw, answering now has lost impact as youve had to be goaded into it....

So, MrCoins.... that EPIC fund raiser you were doing.... tell me the details again.

I feel the need for a good read.



I didn't prove you right at all...and I am still waiting for Maarx to publicly say I am lying...

+1.

me too.


These guys ran the same play over the weekend. They flooded the forum to try and suppress the message. What innocent person does that?
803  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
Where are the BlackCards? Why hasn't anyone received them?

Why isn't IconicExpert answering this? Is that how he runs a business? By ignoring customers and lying?

That has been answered and misdirection will not work.
Where can I find that information? I am concerned when will the card arrive to europe.


I will say this one last time. The cards started shipping last week...we are manually processing each order by hand. We are not Amazon... The cards are being shipped first class mail which is slow internationally. Now if you think I ordered 360 cards and showed pics of them...just to scam people then believe that...When the cards start arriving then it will be some other FUD. What you should be focusing on is the group that is manipulating the prices.
804  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 04:13:09 PM
IE

Thank you for proving me right.

You refuse to acknowledge your errors even when they are there for all to see (havent you got it yet? this one is killing you softly.....)

The only element of my post you pick up is to refute refunds.... which funnily enough, you still refuse to address as well. I'm seeing a pattern here and so are "the people" ... (killing you softly.....)

so, once again, thanks for validating my post by your refusal to answer (btw, answering now has lost impact as youve had to be goaded into it....

So, MrCoins.... that EPIC fund raiser you were doing.... tell me the details again.

I feel the need for a good read.



I didn't prove you right at all...and I am still waiting for Maarx to publicly say I am lying...
805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 04:03:08 PM
Oh I just realized how brilliant Iconic is.

Step 1: Act like a fucking tard and throw accusations
Step 2: People realize they're baseless, and rally behind the dev
Step 3: Price for BC goes up.


Thanks IE, your plan is awesome.

Or the manipulators are reducing sell walls....TY for making my point for me

Why do you keep ignoring me?

You NAMED me! So what you got on me? NOTHING! That's what!!!!!

POST IT HERE IN PUBLIC NOW


Shouldn't you be promoting your campaign to raise funds for the PR firm that distracts people from what is really going on?
806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 04:01:59 PM
who is the inner circle member who contacted you iconicexpert?Huh??

just give us the name


I rather lose all credibility than throw someone under the bus. If that person wants to come forward that is up to him/her. But others will come forward...but continue posting fud about me
807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 04:00:13 PM
Iconic Expert

You have outright libelled me. You have no responded to my post as you clearly know I am right.

You have repeatedly refused to answer or acknowledge requests for refunds.

Do you not see that not only have you hung yourself but your persistent refusal to answer even the simplest of questions now undermines you. YOU have lost too much ground now.

You've made numerous and baseless accusations that, in some cases, are now being persued legally (I'd watch your mailbox on that one). When will you actually see that no amount of tall red text or shouting is going to repair your position. You're done here. Really. It's over.

Refund people the money they want back that they paid you in good faith. I suspect though this may cost you as you have openly admitted that (contrary to good practise) you liquidate funds every few days.... bad move.... and highly untrustworthy. IN fact your managment of other peoples money is at best questionable and I would hazard a guess the IRS would be very interested in your arrangements.

For a self proclaimed business man I have never, in all the 32 years I have been a working professional, ever witnessed such an epic display of unprofessional like behaviour. This behaviour of yours alone should make anyone thinking of giving you money think twice. You show that you should not be trusted.

So, in closing, stop and stop now. You have lost all face to those that had time for you as well as those that hadn't. It's over, you're done.

The business of Blackcoin will thrive far better without you.

And I'll say this to all that do have money tied up here in Blackcoin, the best is yet to come.


Saying I did not refund people donations is just FUD. Posting in an open forum "refund my donation" doesn't mean they actually donated.
808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:58:33 PM
Oh I just realized how brilliant Iconic is.

Step 1: Act like a fucking tard and throw accusations
Step 2: People realize they're baseless, and rally behind the dev
Step 3: Price for BC goes up.


Thanks IE, your plan is awesome.

Or the manipulators are reducing sell walls....TY for making my point for me
809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:52:06 PM
Prove it. It's no point accusing anyone with a new account. A lot of people lurk, too.

Maarx...you have yet to answer me directly. Were you on IRC with me when the group asked me to lie to the community and I said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Am I a liar?

ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS IF CONVERSATIONS LIKE THESE WERE BEING HAD, why the fuck did you not speak up sooner for someone who clearly detests the dev group so much?

Seems to me your perfect weapon would have been a screenshot of this convo.


Weird that you don't have it.


What a shitty business man.

Who said I don't have screenshots or proof? And coming forward early would have resulted in what is happening now...but the only difference is I would have less proof.

You did BY SIMPLY NOT POSTING THEM YET!

Spamming the forum with attacks against me is fine. It is not going to stop people from taking pause...people are not stupid and they will start asking themselves serious questions. So please continue to spam FUD about me, but I feel happy knowing this info is out there now. Now people can decide for themselves...
810  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:47:41 PM
Prove it. It's no point accusing anyone with a new account. A lot of people lurk, too.

Maarx...you have yet to answer me directly. Were you on IRC with me when the group asked me to lie to the community and I said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Am I a liar?

ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS IF CONVERSATIONS LIKE THESE WERE BEING HAD, why the fuck did you not speak up sooner for someone who clearly detests the dev group so much?

Seems to me your perfect weapon would have been a screenshot of this convo.


Weird that you don't have it.


What a shitty business man.

Who said I don't have screenshots or proof? And coming forward early would have resulted in what is happening now...but the only difference is I would have less proof.
811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:45:32 PM
Where are the BlackCards? Why hasn't anyone received them?

Why isn't IconicExpert answering this? Is that how he runs a business? By ignoring customers and lying?

That has been answered and misdirection will not work.
812  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:43:54 PM
Now i'm waiting IE refund my donation Huh

You did not send me a PM with your info..
813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:42:44 PM
Prove it. It's no point accusing anyone with a new account. A lot of people lurk, too.

Maarx...you have yet to answer me directly. Were you on IRC with me when the group asked me to lie to the community and I said no? Did the group conspire to manipulate BC? Am I a liar?
814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:38:36 PM
The Group Behind The Daily Dumping
veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13,  Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique

What I am about to write will without a doubt cause a rift within our community , but I feel this is something I must do to protect the investment of innocent people who believe in BlackCoin. I ask everyone whether you support me or not, to  carefully read and analyze my words without prejudice.

When I first started to participate in this community I was enthusiastic to be part of a community that is inspiring and full with enthusiasm. If you look at my earlier posts from March and early April and compare them to my most recent posts you can clearly see a stark difference. Some people have been wondering if my "ego" has gotten out of control, or if something else is at play.

For a few weeks I have known about a coordinated effort to suppress the price of BC. I have hinted numerous times about this suppression, but I did not make it officially public because of the ramifications it would have on this community. I thought with the help of others I could stop or at the very least greatly diminish this suppression without letting the general public know, unfortunately we were unsuccessful.

veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13,  Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique and a few others are all responsible for manipulating the price of BlackCoin for several weeks.

Their  group owns roughly 10% of the total supply of BlackCoins. Apparently this is not enough for them and they want more. They decided since they cannot mine BC anymore they would use their supply of coins to keep the price down and buy coins from people cashing out. With the volume we previously had and other factors, this would have been a very slow process. So they came up with the idea of the multi-pool. They would trick everyone into thinking the multi-pool would help stabilize the price of BC, but instead they were using the multi-pool to obtain significant amounts of BC while using their supply to keep the price down. They were able to "dump" their coins, and use the multi-pool to buy more without a loss. Why do you think so much focus is on the multi-pool? The multi-pool is the key to their plan working, and the plan worked flawlessly until I came into the picture.

I had no clue at the time any of this was occurring when I started promoting BC. If you look at my early posts before anyone really "knew" me, there were early attempts to stop me from promoting BC, why? Why would anyone want to stop  me from promoting BC? Because any extra buy pressure would interfere with what they are currently doing.

I quickly became a thorn in their side because any extra attention I brought to BC interfered with their sell walls and that was a problem for them. So at every step they have been there to stop me from promoting BC. I started getting suspicious after the second press release but I assumed it was just "jealousy". I didn't become aware of this plan until after I announced the BlackCoin card. I was contacted by someone in their inner circle who was "pissed" about some issue they had, so he "snitched". He gave me just enough information to start putting everything together. My attitude changed from that day because I realized we could have been trading well above the price at the time if it wasn't for them.

So I went on the offensive and started making announcements everyday to keep the buy pressure up. I formed my own group and combined we have over 6 million BC. I had to make sure there was a counter "force" to what they were doing. Our attempts to suck up their BC with minor pumps failed multiple times. So I backed the public pump which I felt would finally stop them. However, I did not anticipate the outrage from the community and I back away because I knew one day I might have to make this announcement and my credibility would need to remain intact.

Around that time I was contacted again by another smaller group that also figured out what was occurring. Their plan was to attack the multi-pool and slow them down. I did not condone this tactic because of the legal ramifications, so I declined to take part in it. However, I did use that opportunity to push news to attempt to break their walls, unfortunately I failed.

I finally realized the only way I could stop them if I organized an event so huge even their sell walls would not be able to hold up. At this time I already knew Seopkip was loosely involved but I had to give the impression I was not aware of anything, so I presented the idea to him knowing they would find some way to put it on hold. At first their was talks of funding it so I would not go to the community, but I knew that was BS. Their plan was to keep me waiting while they came up with a plan to take away from the Wall Street event. I knew my time was running out so I announced the Wall Street event before they could kill it.

What did they do? They sent Gritt to post that comment on the article to take away some steam. Then they started to slowly organize a campaign against me to finally kill my efforts. When the CoinDesk article went live on Friday they decided to announce the PR firm campaign. That night it wasn't the CoinDesk article that made the price go up, it was them. I knew they were letting the price go up to make it seem their PR firm announcement was causing "excitement". So I took credit for the price increase to take away some of the "effectiveness" of their plan. That really pissed them off because they wanted to convince the community the PR idea was having a positive effect.

The PR firm is complete bullsh!t. They created the PR firm stunt to take donations away from Wall Street. They knew the community would want to support both ideas and the funds will be split. They also knew I would ask questions, and that would be their signal to attack me. They made it seem I was "jealous" and wanted "attention". Their plan is to slow the news down, and they will tell everyone the PR firm is working on ideas and it will take time to see results. This is just a stall tactic while they continue to accumulate cheap BC.

They noticed I was still getting donations so Colinfx came up with his "match your donation" campaign to take away any remaining attention from Wall Street. Haven't you noticed how much they have posting and spamming lately? Notice how they want everyone to go to Reddit and BlackCoinTalk? If you look before Friday they rarely posted in this forum. It is their way to hijack the "message".

Now please ask yourself these questions:

Why didn't they support the Wall Street event and try to kill it?
Why didn't they spam the CoinDesk article and get the news out?
Why haven't they sent out any press releases since the last release the community sent?
Why has their focus always been on the multi-pool?
Why did they announce their PR firm project around the same time as the CoinDesk news?
Why is Colinfx so willing  to match donations?  
Why didn't they make a big deal out of being added to Vault Of Statoshi?
Just look at all their promotional efforts, it revolves around the multi-pool.

Now you can believe me or you can think this is some lame attempt at a coup to take over, but please start asking yourself who has been dumping steadily all these weeks and why?

I  felt this was my last option because after today they would be unstoppable. I was faced with a hard decision to make. If I did not say anything people will continue to be ripped off. If I do say something my revelation might cause investors to lose faith in the coin. So I did not make this decision without giving it a lot of thought and time.

This is not a signal to start dumping coins! Do not start dumping your coins!
rat4 and maarx are not directly involved in this plot. rat4 is only interested in making BC awesome, and maarx didn't fully understand what was going on behind the scenes.

Now that everyone knows what is going on behind the scenes we can be proactive at putting an end to this fraud, there is no reason to dump. We know exactly who is behind the sell pressure and there are ways to stop it. I have a group of members who are active in this community and they are ready to hit the ground running. I promise everyone that if you follow the plan I am about to layout we will finally skyrocketing by the end of Summer.

1. rat4 denounces the group and pledges to support the community in whatever decision is made.
2. Soepkip and Gritt resigns from the official dev team.
3. Members of this community stop mining on the multi-pool immediately.
4. veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13,  Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique all agree to not dump further until 60 days from now. They provide us with their public addresses so we can monitor them.
5. The group refunds all the donations received for the PR firm bullsh!t
6. The community picks someone to be the spokesperson for the dev team. (It cannot be me because I hold too much BC). It has to be someone that does not have a substantial amount of BC, but have the experience to help rat4.

Let me make it clear there is no need to dump. There is demand for the coin and the fact they have been applying sell pressure proves it. If we put a stop to them we will be back on track to being the #1 coin. Throughout the day people will come forward to offer their services and help, we can build a stronger team. The fact I did not dump my coins should give you comfort that I still believe in BC. All we have to do is get rid of the rotten few that have been suppressing our growth and we will succeed.



If the people I named have nothing to hide and I am full of sh!t, why do they need to use fake accounts to help defend them?
815  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:34:00 PM
I was going to buy into DRK today but bought black instead Wink

Welcome to BLK Smiley

Maarx your "friend" tried to throw you under the bus. You have an opportunity here to stop people from getting ripped off, and help get BC on track. I know you were not directly involved, but I also know you know the truth. You have personally seen me refuse to lie for this group... Do not let them get away with deceiving this community.
Where is the proof to any of your accusations? Stop changing the topic you weasel.


Post history exposed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=325645;sa=showPosts
816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:32:37 PM
Free KNC Titan makes more sense now.

With all that money they were banking off the multipool and dumping.. easily afford that 10k....everything makes more sense now

+1 Iconic


Now you understand why they offer such amazing "rewards" to mine on the pool. All I ask is this.....look at my previous posts from late March...every-ime I announce something look at the negative responses. They are trying to drown out the people concerned about this scam with fake accounts and supporters.


 
817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:28:21 PM
Iconic, I don't want the donation back for my USB card, just ram it up your arse, it will be much more value for money there.



Your post history says it all: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=323902;sa=showPosts
818  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:25:32 PM
I was going to buy into DRK today but bought black instead Wink

Welcome to BLK Smiley

Maarx your "friend" tried to throw you under the bus. You have an opportunity here to stop people from getting ripped off, and help get BC on track. I know you were not directly involved, but I also know you know the truth. You have personally seen me refuse to lie for this group... Do not let them get away with deceiving this community.
819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:18:51 PM
Someone thats glued to a forum all day and brings Fud to a community =  Troll




^^^ There you go throwing Maarx under the bus.

BTW: Is my spending time on the forum  similar to people that spend 14 hours a day on IRC?
820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 06, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
WTF is goin on?HuhHuh? wasnt here since yesterday??  Shocked

can someone explain to me?

Basically IconicExpert is on a power hungry trip and now he's being desperate and doing anything to sling mud at the people that the community respects. He's trying to create a rift in the community but it's back firing on him. So sad...

And the worst part is these kinds of people really do feed themselves with the rage directed at them when they can't get the approval they so desperately seek. So contrary to what many might believe, he is actually most probably enjoying this.

He requires the attention. Some sort of histrionic personality disorder, really. Nothing more: "Associated features include egocentrism, self-indulgence, continuous longing for appreciation, and persistent manipulative behavior to achieve their own needs."

If I am lying...why does the group need fake accounts like yours to try and discredit me. People can view your post history...

Why does your group need to send death threats to Gritt?

First off I am not involved in death threats... Secondly there are others who know about this...I just posted first to take all the fire...but eventually the real investors will understand I am telling the truth. I am also betting on the fact maarx is a good man and will be honest.
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