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801  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN BULLISH? ON CME BITCOIN EXPIRATION on: September 04, 2018, 04:06:58 PM
It is pretty early to call it a bull run and it may still end up in any time, but this is definitely good sign for all of us.
I am hoping that Bitcoin soon breaks 8000$ line and after that I believe we could say its pretty good start for Bull run.
802  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin at 4500$-5000$ August-September 2018 !!! on: September 04, 2018, 03:46:08 PM
Hello dears!
Think I am crazy when I say that the cue ball will be 4500-5000$ for August-September! Can be! Do not argue! But my opinion is the place to be and here's why.

1) Institutions do not want to buy a cue ball for a high price.
2) according to the latest CBOE reports , mega whales are sitting in shorts.
3) Ruling the world just don't want the majority of people got rich and why do so people lost faith in the cue and sold on the cheap.
And the last...
4) analysis of the cue ball for 2014. He fell exactly 10 times! Therefore, from the previous highs ($20,000) ,the cue ball should fall to$ 2000 (but this is the Scam). Therefore 4500-5000$ I think it is real!

Your thoughts are interesting. What do you think about this ?

I am really thinking that Bitcoin do not goes lower than 6000$, because of his support.
Now is the first day of September and Bitcoin reach for a couple of months at the highest price, so there is small chance that you prediction will happen.
803  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: are you now afraid to save bitcoin until December 2018 on: September 04, 2018, 03:27:04 PM
All these fake news are just way to manipulate the prices, but I don't really understand why prices should go up really in December?
I know that last year there was a big rise in prices, but why this shoulkd happen this year?  I still believe that BTC price will rise again, but i am not so sure that it will happen in December.
804  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are the Best Coins to Buy? on: September 03, 2018, 03:11:26 PM
Most of altcoins are down with this market. So many experts and news say BITCOIN will go up in this year end. I think if Bitcoin goes up, other alternative coins are going up. So is my point true, What are the best coins to buy with this low prices.. Or Isn't this the time for buy coins?

If you are new in this market, and I am suppose you are, I advised you to start with Bitcoin, because this is pretty safe choose.
Try to buy Bitcoin then the price low and hold then till your price caps. When you understand how things are going on here, you start investing in others strong Crypocurrencies like ethereum.
805  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how much usd need for trade ?? on: September 03, 2018, 03:04:26 PM
There is no correct answer for your question. You should to decide by itself, look at your monthly salary, and decide how much you could spend on crypto. I would suggest starting out with a small sum about 200$ or 300$ and then look how's it going, if everything all right, then you could increase your sum.
806  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Everyone loses money when the market is down right? on: September 03, 2018, 03:00:55 PM
So with how much bitcoin and all the altcoins are down, is it even possible for any trader to make any money?  Example let say this.  You buy btc at a very low price due to these dips.  Now you could either keep btc or buy altcoins with it.  Now the market goes down every single day.  First off, does anyone know if btc or any altcoins ever have a day where the prices drop every single hour?  Or is that impossible?


Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this?  Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit.  But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money?  Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit.  However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.


Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems?  Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down?  Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now.  But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.


So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down?  And almost everyone makes money when the market is up?  Because if btc goes up, the alts follow.  BTC drops, everything follows.  Its like there is zero skill at all almost.   Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others.  Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc?  Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.


So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago.  So where is the skill here?  Its basically when to sell and when to buy right?  However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money?  Because isn't almost everyone losing money?  The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy.  Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.


Who is making any money now when the market is down?  The ppl who are selling?  Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before.  Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well?  I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems?  The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here?  I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc.  Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing.  Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money.  Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe.   That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc.  However, the thing is the public does win.  And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money.  But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again.  However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.



So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses?  Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak.  But eventually they win back the average joes money.  But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time.  Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes.  Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing.  If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning.  I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time.  But no matter what, someone has to win.  Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor.  Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading.  Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc.  But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses.  Thus that is where the skill comes in.  So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid?  I mean if market is down, who is making any money?  Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius.  Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.



Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this?  I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it.  But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market.  There doesn't seem to be any skill in it.  Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting?  Thanks.

Yes, Cryptocurrency seller lose money, but for most case temporarily.
If they hold their currencies enough and do not panic for sale everything, in which case they should not suffer a loss
807  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: September 02, 2018, 04:26:21 PM
Loan Amount: .05 BTC
Reason for Taking out a Loan: betting/dice
Amount to be repaid: .055 BTC
Repayment Date: On or Before August 13th, 2018
Type of Collateral: see message
Bitcoin Address: 15Bm2D66PMMDimUcbY7WFydvCLV8VjELE1
Message:I am Southpaw0 from bitcointalk.org, today is July 31st , 2018.. I am asking for a loan from zazarb with my account  as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account.
Signature: HAxhvkLhF3+hopLbDf4ywm2OMcpYeLQ9nFb6WaFNUy06Fes4MYLZdPMjWn+JeXeDDd1VFXu1iAsDawO+QZY1gQA=

Accepted, amount sent via txid 19150745d3edd4984abc11657738c456f65918be7c4f90e9eedeb7e91e0d76f2

please repay on or before 13th Aug to following address 3EzR7Qx1FH93XUiHPSvyuuPFXjbpimhqSm

Hey Z,
is it ok if we extend the loan for a longer period , on or before September 3rd for .065 btc please?

thanks

Z

can we please extend again til on or before September 17th for .073?

Extension approved, please repay to the same address 3EzR7Qx1FH93XUiHPSvyuuPFXjbpimhqSm
808  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum coin to begin trading? on: September 02, 2018, 02:34:34 PM
There is no good answer for your question. You should to decide by itself, look at your monthly salary, and how much you could spend on crypto. First of all I would suggest starting out with a small sum ant then look how's it going, if everything all right, then you could increase your sum.
809  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Be calm when the market falls on: September 02, 2018, 02:27:16 PM
The wise choose would be look into the market and see how strong your cryptocurrency is. If you have some bad altcoin and suddenly the price suddenly started to fall sharply, I advised you to sell everything as long as still have some profit, and buy Bitcoin for hedging, because Bitcoin always goes back in previous price.
810  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do Not be Greedy on: September 02, 2018, 02:13:53 PM
In my opinion, the best time to sell is when the market price of the coin is 20%+ higher than the market price at which you bought the coin. Dont wait till the market price is 95%+ before you sell. That only happens when you got your eyes glues to your machine 24/7. Dont be greedy... Make a little profit and grow it over time. Cryptomarket is growing and full of terror! Be careful


Everything starts with strategy choices: short-term, medium-term or long term.
If you choose long-term strategy the 20% gain is to small for example Bitcoin in the bull market usually goes 300% or more. But I am agree with you if you choose medium-term strategy and you want to be a careful investor. Then 20% gain is pretty safe choose.
811  Economy / Lending / Re: Where to lend BTC on: September 02, 2018, 09:52:03 AM
Since OP didn't seem to elaborate on his original question, I will.

I want to know which are currently the platforms available for BTC lending similar to Poloniex?


For my knowledge, the only platform doing this (except poloniex) is Bitfinex (https://www.bitfinex.com/) where available to lend also fiat (usd).
812  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: September 02, 2018, 06:58:59 AM
Address:
198LujSmEykEzY9NL7kxanxMKMgxwQPjGY

Message:
bitkilo requesting a loan of 0.28 BTC, today is 2018/08/11, repayment date to be on or before 2018/09/02
Please fund address: 19URZ8JURx4WbkUw1ofUty5RY7T9kctnAG

Signature:
IMx2XCHKsioDve/vD/eCzkoKIGtQnnXPDvyWajo3HVWYU9hRy0Rp7G/m2q61xVCeZmhpn13g5ASZmu1Q+LGLSGg=

Accepted, amount sent via txid 98a0616337d070e73b67b77e0b492bde4b46a51b0c8f8fc8d635aab43e0160bc

please repay on or before 2nd Sept. to following address 3EzR7Qx1FH93XUiHPSvyuuPFXjbpimhqSm
Hey zazarb,

Thanks for the loan, full repayment has been made.
Tx: https://explorer.bitcoin.com/btc/tx/e86a7d09436c45083540e1239018b2e94c14a13f2d68d70b60bb94fc075331b1

Regards: BTCitkilo

I  confirm that the loan has been repaid timely .
Thanks  and I look forward to a new deal in the future.
813  Economy / Speculation / Re: My guess about mid-term bitcoin price on: September 01, 2018, 05:24:49 PM
I dont understand why you should buy Bitcoin, then price is 7100$, but not to buy when price goes back to 6500$. If you a looking profit in mid-term , I thing you definitely should buy BTC when price is around 6500$, because it is almost the bottom of price , there is very strong BTC support. So from there is only one price path and it is up.
814  Economy / Speculation / Re: Current BTC price below 8K on: September 01, 2018, 05:15:19 PM
I think this is a good time to buy now, but it is undeniable that Bitcoin is really affected by the ETF, but I don't think this effect will last too long!


Perfect time to buy Bitcoin was before 2 week, then price was around 6000$ dollars. Now of course no bad time to buy too, so in one way or another, to earn money, you need to buy as soon as you can
815  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is Bitcoin Crashing? on: September 01, 2018, 04:56:07 PM
Because  this is how market works, after every fall in price, follow the price rise. Just focus on the longer term and wait till price goes where do you need it
816  Economy / Speculation / Re: When the price of bitcoin will go back to it's previous highest?? on: September 01, 2018, 04:51:03 PM
after all the drops I think this is not going to happen soon and obviously not this year we just have to get patience and wait

After all these drop in Bitcoin price, should be bull market, because that how it works, after every drop in price , every time price goes up again. So  i think the price will  reach the $20k in the end of this year.
817  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: September 01, 2018, 11:57:35 AM
Loan Amount: 0.021
Reason for Taking out a Loan: personal and increase trading capital
Amount to be repaid: 0.0225
Repayment Date: 3 week
Type of Collateral: none
Bitcoin Address: 14kXnKQDEJbHx23KSeiPbg7W89A3X8mHGg





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818  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: September 01, 2018, 08:12:13 AM
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819  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin a Bubble? on: August 31, 2018, 08:33:59 PM
It is hard to tell or Bitcoin is really a bubble or not. But it has survived for almost a decade, which makes me believe that is not a bubble or it is  very unique bubbles. But in any case I'd say that it is worth investing in.
820  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin were more than 100K, how much you would buy? on: August 31, 2018, 08:28:05 PM
If i knew that bitcoin costs more than 100k, i would buy three at least and take a pause for the cause. I would drop crypto business and wouldn't take care about it
Seriously, I think that's too much and my mind has not thinking that way. I will be happy to see it reaching $30k as it's still affordable to every investors but I'm hoping that this will happen and make us all achieve our greatest dream by investing in bitcoin.

If i am correct, this is only hypothetical question. So if everyone know that bitcoin for sure cost 100k dollars, then everyone would buy as much as possible at that time.
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