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8061  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Online Shop that accepts BTC on: October 12, 2016, 12:54:23 PM
As of now there are so many online shops that accepts bitcoin as payment but the first issue is if they are legit and if they will do their service. I don't think this site e4btc.com. I've just search it on google that accept bitcoin as one of their payment method for smartphones. Just review the site if they are not scam.

There are really lots of merchants as of now that do accept  bitcoin as  a payment and as you said  the issues   would  be   about its legitimacy of the said website  because  as we all know that  there are really lots  of  scam do exist  today and  its really hard to trust especially bitcoin do make   anonymous transaction.
8062  Economy / Economics / Re: Earning a living from cyptocurrency options trading on: October 12, 2016, 12:43:05 PM
Still options are so expensive in Etheropt exchange, I'm waiting for better pricing. And some expirations are so close, I like longer expirations which means I will have more time to make profits and apply proper hedging strategies (risk management) on my existing positions.
Maybe it is possible but it does not really mater to me because I do not want to rely on a crypto currency because you never know which way it goes.
It is not stable and that is what it is much better as a secondary income.

It is possible to do that but you will have to have allot of Bitcoin or a other crypto currency to make something like that happen because you will have to have allot if you want to make enough money. I know that it is not going to happen with me.
I am just doing this on the side next to my job that is the best way of doing it. 

I agree with you, if  you have lots of  bitcoin and  altcoins  on investment maybe its possible  but   not all people  do possess  huge amounts of bitcoin thats  why its impossible to make a living  with it  on trading. Same as  yours  i would treat  trading  as a side  job for more potential  profits on the long run.
8063  Economy / Speculation / Re: I will not Die Untill Bitcoin will reach at Least 50K on: October 12, 2016, 12:37:51 PM
I dont know but i think that the bitcoin is never going to hjit the 50k amount becuase that is to much if he is going to hit that amount he will now be atleast 1k each adn that never
happend so i dont think that would happen.

Actually  bitcoin had reach for about $1200 on previous year of  2013 and suddenly dip  its price again. As you said $50k  price per  bitcoin is  too  already  high to consider same as  you said. We are now  on $600+ rate and   it starts to increase as  of  now and  i hope it would increase even more on year end  .
8064  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? on: October 12, 2016, 12:35:11 PM
Everyone knows, steeling is an illegal act. In this case, you're not stealing others bitcoin by using some illegal activity like hacking. Its just a flaw in bitcoin, still maths overrides this flaw.
Yup this is true steeling money and bitcoin or anything from human is illegal activity if you want to have some money work for it there are lots of work that can suit with our personality first thing is construction worker or we our going to build a shop buy and sell or anything

On OP's scenario he accidentally obtain  or [generate a new address with  a bitcoin inside of it  which is  somehow  an intentional thing  for him  to be called as  a stealer but  anything that you get   from someones  possesion its  already  consider as stealing but  he have no choice to return it because  he doesnt even  know  whos  the owner of the said address.
8065  Other / Off-topic / Re: How much do you earn per day on: October 12, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
For now i earn bad as of today because i think yobit got some error of counting post -_- i really don't know what really happening on yobit signature campaign i already made 20post every day but it only counts 10 post i made for this day i really dont know what are happening approximate is my daily would be 0.004 but today is 0.002

As i observe on your  post history pal, you are commonly post on  local board   which somehow  i  observe that yobit wont  pay on that certain  board especially to those post  who do have  one liners because  i do experience the same thing  too when my post  are  being  not counted and   thats the reason. For now i do earn 0.006 per day.
8066  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: October 12, 2016, 12:25:17 PM
Bitcoins are predicting a very bright future, and prices rise. But gold is stable. So it all depends on the person. Ready to risk it or not

hope you right Smiley
i want to save some bitcoin for future i hope i can holding arround 100btc so i can be a richman if btcoin rise to $10.000  Grin Grin Grin

In terms of price increase bitcoin would have the edge compared to gold since  its price is only slowly increasing as the time  goes  by. It would be  an ideal thing to save  bitcoin more than 100+ btc or more  so that  you would somehow  ensure yourself that you would really gain  nice profits  long term.
8067  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: October 12, 2016, 12:18:10 PM
Hey! Good day! I really want to know the secret of how to win and not to lose because i am afraid to join the life of a gambler it might make me addicted to it if i lose. When i lose im the one who never gives up >.< im afraid to be addicted and i want to win no matter the cause  Angry Angry
Bro First Of All It is Not Possible That You Only Win...
Also I Suggest You That If You Want to Get Succeed In Your Life Then Leave Gambling And Do Some Other Business Because Gambling Already Wreck Many People Life.......

Maybe that person too know this it's not possible and but everybody with gambling looking for something magical, but nobody want to accept his lose with gambling that is why he want to get something which can make profit for him.


Theres no magical  thing  on playing gambling and also  theres  no really possibility to gamble without any lose. People  dont really  accept this reality for sometimes thats  why they keep  on  playing and  hoping for that moment that  they would experience  no lose games which is  really impossible thing to happen.
8068  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: October 12, 2016, 11:55:34 AM
I want ask anyone if i give you 10 Btc what will you do. because i want investment but i have no any good idea to invest it (except gambling) but i don't like dambling.So i want ask you viewS.
i i have 10 btc then i will invest to a friend to get about 10% profit per month . and also some.of its amount will be use bye foe trading , because i am expert in trading .

If you are expert in trading then why would you give it to your friend for 10% profit, you can make much higher profits in trading if you invest 10 btc but only if you are expert Wink

Maybe  he just want to share profits  with his  friend  which is  somehow a good thing for a friend though . YOu are right  if you are  good on trading you could  make decent profits  out  of  10 btc amount. 10% in nothing   if you are good  on it.  Investing   on trading  would  be the best choice among  others as long you are knowledegable  to it.
8069  Economy / Economics / Re: What if US Dollar Crashes? on: October 11, 2016, 02:21:57 PM
USD not crash
this nor USD price is very strong is compare value pair another fiat money
is very bad value is poundsterling, after brexit pundsterling down and down

but this now USD strong but bitcoin same too price incraese up not down

I have also same opinion, US Dollar is very strong fiat currency in all over the world, because every country's people know about USD, and even we can see bitcoin converted the Usd and than everyone can use it, SO i don't think that USD could be crashed, US dollar always remain.     

As you said  Usd  is a very strong  fiat currency and  one of the  most powerful i guess because  its been  used commonly on trading other currencies  and  its a major pair thats why  it would  not easily crash i guess but  if that would  happen many countries would  really affected and much more on its  mother country for sure.
8070  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: LONG TERM BITCOIN BUYERS on: October 11, 2016, 02:19:13 PM
i think by long term investment it mean 1 to 2 years of duration. and from short term investment it means the investment for hours and days. some tie i do long term investment and on regular basis i do long term investment i personally like short time investment. i do a little earning from it but do it continuously.
but i think that long term investment is much more good than short term investment because i also get a big profit from long term investment and short term investment can not make a good profit so i recommend that long term investment is good .
How much amount are you has for make a long term investment of bitcoin is bringing a good profit for you rather than long term investment? so totally you're have a big amount on your investment and can make a good profit for you, right?

If you are longing  for  future  profits on  long terms on bitcoin we  should assure ourselves to save up huge  amounts of bitcoin in able to  feel the profits  and would  able  to  be contented to our selves  because  when you do saving a small amount of bitcoin the waiting effort  would  not be  worth at all.
8071  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: October 11, 2016, 02:17:12 PM
I guess one advantage of starting really small is that you learn the techniques without making huge losses. You will grow your capital with time and experience.
Ya every beginner is gambling should always start only with a small amount while doing altcoins trading or bitcoin day trading.For altcoins trading the best place to trade with small amounts is yobit,because we can buy there some altcoins of really very low amount,so i would suggest yobit for that.

You could really buy cheap altcoins   on yobit  but be sure to find  or buy the correct one because some coins there dont  pump  after all which is a really waste of money the same  into other exchange sites, Dead  coins are present anywhere not only on yobit thats  why we should be vigilant on our actions  in terms of trading,
8072  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: October 11, 2016, 02:13:56 PM
I have made some profit with dice a couple of times but not to many because dice is just about luck so you need luck in order to win.
No skill is involved within dice and that is why you maybe have never won a profit with dice.
You are a really lucky person Because making a profit in Dice game is not an easy task. Only those who luck they can make. Comes to me I never made any profit in Dice game, and I will get excited when I am playing Dice game. So I made long run win many times, but I lost everything in same game. It's just my bad luck or greedy don't know.

DOnt  get  shocked  on to  these  results when you intend to play dice because  its  just a normal thing to lose  up  in the long run when you  play these kind of games. As you said  people do have  enough luck would really make  profits  on any gambling games. It really relies  on pure luck in able  to be profitable.
8073  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin replaces the money? Could happen? on: October 11, 2016, 02:11:45 PM
What peopel dont think about it aht bitcoin exist out of the money so bitcoins exist out of dollars and how is the bitcoin able to replace the dollar i dont think that could happen if
you are thinking clear about that.

Yeah and paper money is bigger and stronger in compare to bitcoins and the main reason behind not to disappear is that it is having an support from the Government and they will never support bitcoin for sure.

They would  not really support bitcoin for sure  because of some  characteristics of  it and  one is it is decentralized and government couldnt able to control  it and government  would  not like that for sure.  Agree with you paper currency is strong  and bigger compare to bitcoins  which it cant be possibly replace anytime soon.
8074  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 11, 2016, 02:10:00 PM
Not rich actually but I guess i am getting profit in gambling unlike in investing. I am so disappointed because I will always be scam at this program that is why I hate this program than in gambling. Most I love is trading.
Not only you but no one is rich from gambling,all those who commented here no one has become rich with the gambling and even many are in loss overall after gambling so its good to know that you are getting profit in the gambling because theere are not many like you.

There are really people  who make  money on gambling sites and  i considered them as  lucky ones  because not all  have this  kind of luck and  majority of  players  are  broke. because  gambling is  designed to lose its players.  No one is rich from gambling  excluded to those who won  on lottery  because for sure they are instant millionaires.
8075  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Webcam sex for bitcoins on: October 11, 2016, 02:05:41 PM
I won't waste my bitcoins just to have webcam sex. I can just google some websites that are offering this type of service for free. And I can remember of one signature campaign that is offering this type of service. If I'm not mistake that is xotica.tv and you can try to message VIKA NSFW if you want to avail her services.

Same here, i wont waste  my bitcoin  just to engage with this  webcam sex its a crazy thing to do to waste your money  which you could able to see this for  free here in  the  internet world. Better to save your bitcoin for future  use than to waste it  with these  kind of websites. I do also saw that sig campaign about xotica.tv. lol

I've seen some people wasting their money for that kind of service and its totally awfull since you cannot see the girl in person and some of them are just recorded, so thats why i don't even bother to look up for that kind of service and not even throw even single money on any kind of that such sites, so i think its really better to look in pornsite since we can watch free and find better action. Cheesy


Agree, its better  to  watch porn sites  compare on to these webcam sex which are  totally a dumb thing to do and i agree some may be already recorded and  you are  just wasting  you precious bitcoin  just other would  make fool of you. lol. Better to watch  different  porn scenes  and they are  free of charge Grin

Not if you want to act out your fantasies. I am happy in my relationship, so I do not need services like this, but there are people out there who have weird fantasies and they want to engage in a non-threatening way, not to endanger their partner. So they act out these fantasies in Cyber space. < Not saying this is good or bad >

Some people do not have partners, for whatever reason, and engaging with pretty women and men online, might help them to cope with that.

So let's not judge, before we know what every person's reason is. ^hmmmmm^

I have to agree. Everyone of us is different and has different desires and preferences. Some people don't think this is waist of money. Otherwise sex industry, web cams and prostitutes wouldn't exist and we all know these are one of the most profitable areas. So, don't judge, let people do what they like and spend their money how they like.

Well where not judging anyone's money but i think we stated our very own opinion right there, but if people would be happy to have a sexchat partner online well let him be as long he is happy for that kind of act well that should be no problem on him, but for me i don't really find cam to cam sex chat be arousing since i cannot get satisfied easily on just single blink.

Correct, its  not   judgement on  others people money since we  have  our own  will in  different things and  we differ in any way on  our perceptions and   decisions on  certain things. If   that thing would  make them  happy then  let it  be, we are  just   stating  our own facts here and  we  should  not contradicting  our selves to each  other and  must respect  on what  other people say regarding with this matter. Spending bitcoin to these  webcam girls wont be   a wise  decision for me at all though.


But we can't take out that anyone have their certain fantasiest and i believe those who like cam girls are those people who's afraid to court a girl personally(this is only my though) but wheter anyone likes it or not we can't really stop people to have a sensual chat if they like those kind of services, but still i don't find it interesting since my fantasiest are nothing can do with those cyber cam girls.

Every man  has  its  own  fantasies regarding  on  sensual things  like these. Some may like on actual and some  may like   on cyber sex its really depends on mens preference . Same  as yours  i dont  find any interest  on these things and  its much better to save  up  my bitcoin that  to spend on this  useless things.


As reading above post i literally see that people posting around here doesn't want to spend some penny on webcam sex chat, i dunno they are telling the truth or just joining the peoples thoughs here, but whatever hiding desire they are on of i think it well end up the same if people would really like to do their wants, and not all people want to reveal that they are chatting some cam girls since its a bit shame when people knows that.

And we must really expect this things  since  people are different in anyways and some would intend to go with the flow  to avoid contradictions and arguments  to other members thats  why they would  say the same thing that others do. But we  really dont know  whats the true  intentions and  hobbies and aims  of each of everyone of us.
8076  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How much do campaign managers earn? on: October 11, 2016, 02:02:55 PM
Recently I've gone through campaigns list of Lutpin has managed campaigns of about BTC12.1.

And I see some top campaign managers here.

I just wonder how they usually earn, say monthly?

I think, if Lutpin took on average 1% on all his campaigns, he would've earned around BTC1.21 as per his statistics.

My concern is, is that worth of his time?
Or any Campaign manager's time to for the money they get?
Or how much they actually get periodically from campaigns?
What would be the  potential earnings from the Campaigns for Managers?


In my opinion, signature campaign managers  have  different rates  though it really depends on the  owner of a certain site on what would be their salary  . Since all are different then they are different too on their rates  and  the  time span of a certain campaigns would do matter too i guess. GO ask for your self  on sig camp managers i dont know if they would tell the truth.
8077  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 11, 2016, 01:59:38 PM
Yeah probably you are right. We all know that in gambling it is really MORE on luck but sometimes, there would really also gambling games needs strategy and that is the time that we need both to win.
Yes indeed to win in gambling we need some luck and the game also requires a strategy. But win or not remains to luck gambling. I gamble just for fun because I know that gambling is just luck.
That's true I also gamble for fun because I also know that most of the time gambling is really more on luck, sometimes I really want to try my luck if I can win or not if I can't then that is fine, at least I've tried.
By doing that you will enjoy gambling and just bear in mind that you should not lose your focus on your goal in gambling because once you will gamble for money you will be at risk of losing a bigger amount that might ruin your life in the future.
I think there is no problem in gambling for money also, because if you keep gambling for fun then you are basically wasting your precious time.
the best way is to gamble for money but have fun with it too, so if you win good, but if you loose at least you had fun.

Aiming for money would  somehow  not  a good thing when you intend  to  play gambling  because these aims would  push you to your limits especially when  you are lossing  up so much money and  emotions would come out  to bet even  more and  you end  up wrecked because  of such wrong  decisions.
8078  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: October 11, 2016, 01:58:01 PM
Holding bitcoins for a few years is a bit risky and too long imo. We don't know what happen to bitcoin on that years. For me better spend your bitcoin for invest in bitcoin for short-term
yeah its risky but its fine to hold your coins and when you see changes in price you can already sell it and dont need to wait for long time to earn. im also holding my coins and i use some of my btc to trade. i dont spend my btc right now i just hold it.

Its good to hold some and spend some in trading as even if trading doesn't goes good for you, you still have some coins in your wallet which you can sell when you see higher price and recover the loss.

But as  long  as we  could , we should  not waste our bitcoins  on trading because  in this  we could possibly grow even more  on our bitcoin. Dont rely too much on your savings and letting  the other  investments to fall  because you are confident enough  because you have   other saving and  hoping for future profits  for  backing up the loss.
8079  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: October 11, 2016, 01:52:57 PM
Bitcoin is by far the better choice because it is much easier to transfer bitcoin around the world
i think you're wrong because this is thread discuss about investment Smiley but yes bitcoin is easier to use Smiley

Yeah but it's not about easier though you'll want to pick what's best for your cause not what is easiest.
Both are good bitcoin and gold just completely different so it really depends on what your needs are but for me I prefer bitcoin.

It really depends  on  our needs and  capabilities and we could able  what to choose  , we could possible choose  both  investments as long we have the  money to put  on. as  we all know  that gold  investments are  expensive  unlike to bitcoin that you could  only buy on small amounts  that you want.
8080  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: October 11, 2016, 01:50:26 PM
Fiat will never be worthless even if bitcoin price is $10,000 unless fiat is replaced by bitcoin. What I mean in replace is that the value of bitcoin will not depend on fiat anymore, it will have it's stand-alone value and will be used in daily lives, if that happens, fiat will be worthless but seeing it rise at that price, even if it is $100000 fiat will have worth unless no one will use it when that price is reached.
Even if bitcoin reaches to that price level, I don't think fiat will be worthless and people are who are not aware about btcoins will prefer to use fiat as its easy and convenient to use.

You are right!
And this will just show us how much potential for growth Bitcoin has and that it's value is very very tiny at the moment.
Bitcoin will be used as safe haven and investment first by people who want to protect their wealth.
Fiat will still be around and used by a majority of people.
However the ones who know Bitcoin now and have a bit of skin in the game could possibly profit from it on a big scale in a few years.

Can you imagine 1 satoshi = 1 dollar? Well, neither that the Bitcoin will have a good marketcap.
Fiat money are controlated by governments, they will always have their place in economy, nothing can beat banks+governments.
I certainly agree with your statement, everything requires the approval by the government and we cannot get easy approval that is why now bitcoin is till not legalize because it has no features that will comply with the government laws which is the KYC policy.


Yeah that is the reality that government is always going to rely with the fiat money for they are able to control it unlike with bitcoins.

So regardless what would be the value of bitcoin, still fiat will be worth it and it can be worthless because of bitcoins.

Unless the government would told it so.

Fiat is a basic necessity of majority of the people as their day to day transactions are depend on fiat and now they are used to it and it will be very for many to quit fiat and switch to bitcoins.
I want to add , fiat is  being used already  for how many years and  already been established  strong foundation and reputation  all over the  globe which is a very hard thing  to beat  by bitcoin. Even bitcoins   price would  rise  up on the  future  it would still no chance to replace fiat.
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