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8081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 11, 2016, 01:46:40 PM
Gambling is not wrong, till one getting addicted to it as well becoming more greedier upon winning few events. Also it is wrong when considered it an source for living rather than using it for fun with small earning as well loss.

I agree with you, gambling is just simply business and entertainment. The people who abused themselves for not using gambling in the right way is making themselves wrong with gambling. Because they are not knowing what is their priorities instead of more important things to cover up first, they are making gambling as their first love.
I do not think that it is wrong to gamble because the adults can make there own decisions whether they want to gamble or not, nobody is forcing them.
If you cannot control your self then it is wrong for you to gamble.
Yeah those people who decide to gamble are grown and old enough to be thinking for them selves if they want to gamble they should.
If they are then end up wrecking there lives because of it it is also one them selves.

We have our  own  will on all thing  and decision that weve made as you said  we are old  enough and we  know on the things  might  happen when we intend to  play gambling and thats  being wrecked when  you  play excessively on it.  Gambling isnt bad but   if you already compromise many things because of it then its already considered .
But maybe just on yourself alone because we have different experience with gambling and basically it should be played for fun only but some people cannot really stick with that and they are those who suffers the consequences of irresponsible gambling.

People  do differ in any ways and you were right gambling should be treated  as  an  entertainment  rather than  a source of income  or profits because  its really impossible to happen , as you said  most people  who suffers  are  those  people who treat  gambling as a  money maker and keep playing and do excessive betting which is really  bad thing to do in gambling.
8082  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will price be at around $700 by end of october on: October 11, 2016, 01:44:20 PM
keep calm the price just move to $630, i guess still far to hope the price may reach $ 700 in october because i see after price start rise many trader has sell their coins.

Correct,  price  of bitcoin start to move now but just as  expected  traders  would surely sold their coins  on this  point and would  expected on bitcoins price to drop again on $600 mark but still i have  high hopes that  it would somehow increase  more and continuing its rally.
8083  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin was made illegal by your government would you still use it? on: October 11, 2016, 01:42:28 PM
If Bitcoin was made illegal by your government and the punishment was very bad, would you still use it, would you still openly support it?


so far, luckily there has been no laws about using bitcoin. so i am glad that i don't have to decide about this question in reality and it is only hypothetical for me so far.

but in this hypothetical situation, i think i will still continue using bitcoin, even if it were illegal to do it. but if i wanted to start using it and it was illegal i don't think i would have!

Thats why  OP is just assuming regarding on this situation which  if  bitcoin  would be banned by government. YOu are right  this  situation  is  hypothetical but still for sure many people would tend  to use  it even it would be banned since bitcoin is anonymous  they cant easily catch those  people  who disobey the rules of  government.
8084  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: SHOULD I BUY AND HOLD BTC, DASH, DOGE on: October 11, 2016, 01:36:16 PM
whoever bought and held bitcoins -congratulations on making 5% profit in one month




5 september price-608$
11 october  price-636$

and I have a strange feeling that it would be rising more



thats a  guaranteed  5% profits  for 1 month as you say, same as your i do have a feeling  that  it would  continue its  rising price rally im not sure  but  it would somehow increase its price gradually. Lets wait for  upcoming days or months on what would be the price.
8085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 10, 2016, 12:31:24 PM
I also feel very difficult to leave the gambling we already addiction. but still no way to leave the gambling. you can do a new hobby more interesting so that you will forget gambling

If you have nothing to do and just gamble all day long, then it will really be hard for you to leave that gambling addiction because your attention and focus are still at gambling - you have no diversions. It is really better to go outside and socialize with people and maybe do some volunteer work for charity and that way, you will get to meet new friends and enjoy life outdoor.
thats a good advise making your time worthy and placing your mind into something profitable and not just thinking about going back to play gamble again, its an addiction thats really hard to removed from our minds specially when something is really engaging us thinking that we really knows what we are doing trying to defeat the house.

as long as we have fixed and determined decision to stop gambling for good, then there is no reason for us to finally get rid of gambling to our lives. I can say this personally because I just stopped heavy gambling and just play sometimes with the amount that I personally know that could not affect my entire life if I will lose it.

Correct as  long  as you have the will to quit gambling for good  then for sure  you would really do it  , Its all depend on your mind and willingness to stop gambling if you really want to quit you could really quit anytime you want.
8086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: October 10, 2016, 12:28:00 PM
How to win & not lose - Yeah it doesn't happen with gambling, that's all you need to know. Stop right there & give up even thinking like that. If it was possible there wouldn't be any casinos or bookmakers becsuse they'd all be bankrupt.

Correct if theres a way  on how to gamble without any lose then for sure  there would be  no casinos at all because  they would all go bankrupt  because they are  just giving free money to their  players. Safe or no lose  in gambling doesnt exist at all.
8087  Other / Off-topic / Re: The First Thing You Bought? on: October 10, 2016, 10:34:03 AM
Yes we gone to a restaurant for my boyfriend's first bitcoins. And after I joined the bitcoin world and get my first coins I spend it for a sweater that I bought in online shop.

That's great to hear that you bought physical product using bicoin directly, can you share the name of website from where you bought and do they have any shipping charges?

They would surely have  high  shipping chargers  especially when you are on a  far country and its not ideal  to buy their its much better  to buy directly on your country when its  already available but  as  of  now if  its not available then  lets wait for the future.
8088  Other / Off-topic / Re: How much do you earn per day on: October 10, 2016, 10:32:14 AM
I only earn around net 5 usd worth of btc a day from some small investments and doing the posts here and some faucets, but am slowly slowly trying to grow the investments. I would ideally like to get to earn 60 usd a a day, that would pay all our living expenses in this Euro country as life here is expensive, food, rent and bills is costly here.

That is great, i hope that you can achieve your target. Would you mind sharing what you planning to do to achieve that? Would like to find out more ways on how to grow my psasive income too.
If you are looking to grow your income then you can offer services and get paid in bitcoins but I think to make it bit faster the best choice is to invest in altcoins where you can make descent profits regularly.
thats right if you make some success with trading alts you will able to gain a lot and grow your bitcoin from trading them.

Altcoin trading is getting more popular day by day and people are switching their investments from bitcoin trading to altcoin trading as everyone is aware that it is the place to make quick profits.

Since I dont have services that I can offer, I'm just relying on trading bitcoin to alt coin. But my problem is I dont have much investment in trading. I can say that my knowledge is enough to gain much btc if I have more investment.

Its still okay if you dont have any investments  but still you have a good mind  to earn  bitcoin in  other way. Not all have skills regarding  on the skilsl that are commonly needed here on bitcointalk but still we could  earn money in many way.
8089  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: October 10, 2016, 09:37:54 AM
So guys, after 2 years of trading i am going to stop. (unless i have full time to trade, which i currently don't)

I have calculated all my trades on the various platforms i have used in the last couple years.

Deposited: 47BTC (roughly)

Withdrew: 40BTC (roughly)

Overall i am happy with the results, i would pay 7 BTC anyday for what i have learned so far.

Now the question is: what the fuck do i do now with my money.

Put it in a cold storage and forget about it for some time!

Do not invest, since there is no real and fair opportunity to invest. There are all scams and ponzis. Don't gamble.

Reward yourself and buy yourself something nice since you have a nice stash here and put the rest in the cold storage! Smiley
I dont see it why are people quitting with tradings trades can make people very rich ok it is a bit unpredictable but what if you make the trade of your life
You will not regret it for sure and i know people love to see others makin gmoney with the bitcoin that stimulate them.
You can't blame them dude because trading is not for everyone, you might see others that are already rich because of trading but that does not mean that anyone can do it, it is all about numbers and analyses and not all people are good at it although they tried.

True, actually we could do trading  anytime  but  the question is  if trading  would suit our  knowledge and  luck because same as you said   we could really do trading  anytime but  there are really things that is not really for us because  people  are different in any ways.
8090  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: October 10, 2016, 08:53:17 AM
I just got Greedy and lost 0.03 while investing in ICO and it turned out shitcoin. i invested in sponsored ICO Coin in bittrex i thought they are strict on adding coins on their site but it turned out i was wrong. it was a great lesson for me this time is never trust anyone even though he is very well known. anyway everything when theres money involve is considered Gambling. So yes im greedy as f**k i didnt research further.
I don't think that is greed, it is just unlucky, and buying alt coins to invest it's not a gambling it's called trading and it's just a mistake that you dont research further, and it's a natural things people want to search for opportunity to earn bigger money

Its still somehow  a gambling  or greed  because  you are aiming for profits but  you could consider it as risking  on an investment since you are  investing  on an ICO which on altcoin. Correct you are just  unlucky because  you choose  a certain coins which isnt good at all.
Sometimes luck will also play during the ICO because although there are some coins that are expected to be great, like waves and DAO but until now those who invested during the ICO still not able to sell their coins for a profit.

If you will take a research both coins have raise a great amount to develop the project.

I agree with this  WAVES does   have the potential and  i jave some waves to on bittrex and  didnt spend  or sold them for a cheaper price im still holding it until now and waiting for the right time to sell them off. This is also a good investment and we should not be greedy.
but i think waves are almost there might possible after the full nodes has been complete will be able to expect price will reach the ico or much greater, hope so..
I have invested with waves and they are a great project actually but seems like the ROI is too long to wait so I sold some of my waves for a lose. But still have a little number of waves in Bittrex so that is good already for long term investment.
8091  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Minig Vs Hardware Mining Which is best ? on: October 10, 2016, 08:51:02 AM
Cloudmining  are just total scams and  not worth  for the money  and  dont intend to  put even a single centavo on it. Hardware mining would be good  as  long  you have a money to invest on and you have cheap electricity then for sure you would be profitable.
8092  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: October 10, 2016, 08:41:37 AM
Buy gold and wait up price. Grin

All I know is Bitreserve's bitgold is awesome. Flip from btc to gld to usd to yen to yuan and back to btc. Hold gold, but spend btc. All with real-time transparency.


This is pretty good yeah you can either just put away money in a saving or you could invest whatever you want to safe into gold to make sure it's stays valuable.
This is what I do and i recommend it for long term savers lets say 10+ years.

Gold  is  a very good long term investment as long you have the money to  put on then  you would sure make profits on  it same as  on bitcoin. Saving  money would not be hard as  long  you obliged yourself to get partition on  your money and  put up into savings.
8093  Other / Off-topic / Re: waiting for a confirmation: what are you doing? on: October 10, 2016, 08:40:12 AM
While waiting for confirmation, i do playing games,
reading some news, and mostly my time in trading.
In trading i check on what coins were I could buy and
sell coins.

I too do read news and check my email when I am waiting for the confirmation, Sometimes if its taking too long I start to brush my laptop and clean its top. But most of the time I just wait for it while doing other things in the house since I cash out always on weekends.

I do the same thing too sometimes especially when  im waiting  for the confirmation times  but sometimes when im in a hurry i do always check the transaction if its completed already  but  if  im not  in a hurry  i just let it go and dont  mind  it.
8094  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you use a bot for trading? on: October 10, 2016, 05:45:38 AM
I am beginner with trading, so i prefer to study the chart without any bot to get good experience. I think only the experienced traders use bots for trading nowadays.

this IS the way to do it. you should first do everything manually and take time to learn everything yourself and then you can figure out which part of it you can do with automation (using bots) and which parts of it you have to do manually.

This is  true , you couldnt able to use  bot  on trading especially when you are still a newbie  because you wouldnt know  how to use it at all because of lack of knowledge  and as you said  you could  use bots for automated   trading especially when you do  long trades.
8095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 10, 2016, 05:43:31 AM
ban gambling foprum part in your browser for start Wink
Good suggestion but does not work, we can easily access other sites since we are in control of our internet connection and computer. It should be from the start that you will devote yourself in doing other things to lose your interest in gambling.

Agree, it would be still useless because  you would surely find another sites  which  you could able to gamble again. If you  banned it on your pc then  you would  really play on other  pc for sure especially when you are already  addicted into it.  Devoted to other things  not related to gambling wood  be a good way.
8096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: October 10, 2016, 05:41:57 AM
Im always doing the no.1. Its good to set a limit of win/loss coz staying in a gambling site for a long time is not a good idea as no one can win in the long run. So always set a limit of win and loss but sometimes managing the loss is hard resulting into breaking the limit you've set in loss.
you can always set the limit anytime you want , but remember to stick to the rules
it's will just useless if then you ignore everything you have planned
just be calm down , don't be hurry
play it using your heart not temper so you way will know when exactly you must stop at certain profit.
The thing is your heart is the reason of your temper in gambling, maybe the right statement would be play with your mind not with your heart. That is what professionals are doing in gambling that is why they are very successful as they are very clever not letting their emotion affect their decision making.
oh that's what i mean to gamble with your mind , not directly using your temper
beside a professional used their mind/brain to gamble they have a bankroll management
it's very helpful for a regular gambler , as they might crossed the limit if didn't used this
so basically follow your temper means a disaster you may will always ended lost.
You are correct, gambling with your emotion is not good and in fact it is a recipe for disaster, I am not saying this based on what I hear and read from the others but this is merely based on my experience, now, I have a control already because I learn my lessons.

Agree,  you would able to control  your temper  if you already realized  and  you already experienced  the consequences  of not having  a  good  self control  on your emotions. If you realise  or experience these   things for sure you would not  need  to do it again because  you are already awared.
8097  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dump or long term goals? on: October 10, 2016, 05:40:29 AM
I must say that long term goals are for me the thing due to the fact that it has a nice future so I think its good to go for long terms.
Dumping is also profitable but if you know that its gonna rise more its worth to go long term.
which really hard to know good exit and entry with btc fluctuation its profitable if you come in with the right timing but if does not much better to keep hold and wait until it reach your goal amount.

Short trading  on bitcoin price would be profitable though but as you said you would need to  come in  on the best time as possible and the best  time  to sell also  with this kind of  steps and  ways you would surely profit  with that even on the slightest movement on bitcoins price. Long term investments on bitcoin would be still good but you cant enjoy profits on earlier time  though.


Well this could be a great idea since we are experiencing some little up and down so better really to do aome short trade on bitcoins so we can earn some profits by joining and grabinh the oppurtunity for hia little flactuation, but for longterm investment for me is not really good since i can't determine what is the risk that we might gonna face if bitcoin will suddenly got some huge problems that can threatin for the price down or died.

Correct, we  cant really predict the  situation of bitcoin    on long term  and as you said it might  experience  problem on future or  possibly died  thats why its risky to  full  save  and  hold  for future  on bitcoin but  who know  its might happen  or not. Thats why we are all risking  here on bitcoin world.
at least for choose long term we just need have easy mind, all bitcoin supply still not has been mined so for 4--8 year still safe as a long term investment.

True, on longterm investments we could somehow  rest  our  minds on being stressed  regarding  on future  profits  and as  you said  bitcoin supply  still not mined   for  many years  left  and we could assume  its somehow safe  to  hold long term as  of now.  Buying  the lowest price of  bitcoin as possible.
8098  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you like to receive your salary in BTC? on: October 10, 2016, 05:36:15 AM
I rather receive my salary in fiat than bitcoins, so i don't need to exchange my salary to fiat again if i received it in bitcoin. In my country there is no shop that accept bitcoin, so i rather pick in fiat.

Exactly, what's the use of your salary if you can't use it to buy your food or shop using it...Which for bitcoin it is still not possible since some countries only have few shops and some even don't have, lucky that we have exchanges that caters this when we have to shop online...  Smiley

Even if you dont have  merchants on your country you could  still  exchange your  bitcoin into  fiat anytime but  it would be a quite hassle for us compared  on  spending it directly.   Thats why most people wouldnt risk to recieve  bitcoin as  their salary because of  these adoption  problems  to a certain country or place.
8099  Economy / Economics / Re: Have $20 worth of bitcoin, how to earn more with it? on: October 10, 2016, 05:33:54 AM
You can earn more in this forum. You can go to service section and join a signature campaign, it's the easiest way to earn bitcoin so far and you also can go to games and round section to earn free bitcoins.

If you have good time to spend then you can try according to above mate's quote. You could also try from faucets, captcha solving, games as well signature campaigns. In my view trading and gambling gives a big earning compared to signature campaign and other methods of earning. Its better to select themselves according to ones need.

Trading and gambling will give you higher earnings but we cannot afford to ignore the risk associate with, so if you want safe earnings then best choice is to go for signature campaign.

I would agree with this   signature campaigns  are risk free at all and also  earnings are  decent compared to those  faucets and captchas.    Trading  would  do as  long  you are kowledgable with it but if dont then   you should not proceed  you would  surely lose your money  how much more on gambling.
8100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin was made illegal by your government would you still use it? on: October 10, 2016, 05:31:13 AM
Nope, If there are jail time involved, I would not use it. I have a family and a full time job to think of and no technology is worth the risk to go to jail and lose all of that. I would be one of the voices going up against laws like this, but I would never endanger my family.

The bitcoins I own now, would be send to friends in other countries where bitcoin is legal in exchange for legal fiat currencies. ^smile^

These would  be the best way on redirecting  your bitcoin on  other  friends  which country doesnt ban bitcoin and you could still able to benefit from all your  bitcoin in terms  of cash. As  you said  i wont risk  myself hence  i have  already  family  and  i wont like  to leave them  because  im being  imprisoned.
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