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Edit 300001: Now parting all blades, starting at 50 inc UK shipping.
Buy 1 blade = 4x120mm fans
Buy 3+ blades = fan controller for 4*number of blades + above.
Buy 5 blades = full racking system + PSU. + above
Largest orders will receive priority.
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even if the difficulty would rise to 25 mil, batch #3 should be BE in two months.
Please have a look on hash rate increasing trend and estimated difficulty next time. Do you really have confidence that you will receive Avalon batch#3 in 2 weeks? The thing is, if a B3 Avalon can't ROI then nothing will from now on, ever. Even klondikes which are ~3x price efficient won't work because on your estimates the difficulty will be 30000000000000000000. But then if difficulty is so high, why is the hash rate increasing? Why would anyone be buying new hardware if it won't pay for itself. Paradox. You can't have it both ways. |
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Wow that was hard, 2 hourly people on $8. Remember guys this is just the Jap orders, not the mini singles, singles or minirigs. Each of those taking 6x, 12x, 1000000000x as many chips as the Japs. |
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20k$ hand to hand or SEPA
=164btc, you'll have to do way better than that. Would prefer to move away from cash transactions, don't want the added risk. SEPA is fine, as is UKBT. You should be able to edit, I never have problems editing my posts. Try making it a self-moderated thread.
Auctions is a special subforum where no posts are editable. Indeed. It would be nice if we could add edits below messages though. |
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Edit 300001: Parted blades will inc a block of 4 fans inc cable adapters from 3-4 pin incase you don't have them.
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Clearly, Dogie is biased against BFL.
BFL has started delivering which is very evident, all the major costs have now been covered.
The biggest costs has always been with the ASICs the initial design and prefab (masking and what not), once these are done the individual chip cost is extremely low.
Somehow i bet their per chip cost is in the 5$ ballpark now.
Add rest of the HW -> casing, pcb, caps, regs, resistors etc etc. bought in bulk you have something like this cost breakdown:
case 5$
fan 1$
pcb 2$
connectors 5$
on board components: 10$
Total: 23$
Assembly + testing: 20$ per unit.
43$ + chips = 53$ per jalapeno unit. So realisticially 50 to 100$ to mfg single unit.
Since this is an exponential growth business limited by bitcoin valuation, which exponentially raises as mining costs raise, and they are now delivering they are starting to rake in more and more orders each and every day.
Why exponential growth?
Let's assume 5G unit has a steady ROI of 6months after costs (right now more like 1week, in couple of months 3months, in a year probably 11months), and bitcoin price does not fluctuate.
Customer buys 1 unit, 6months later he buys another with the mining revenue, 6months after he buys 2 units, 6months after 4 units and so forth.
Since ROI is more like 1 week now, it goes more like this:
1 week purchase 2nd unit
2nd week purchase 2 more units
4th week purchase 3 more units (ROI is getting longer), now 7 units
6th week purchase 5 more units, total 12
8th week purchase 9 more units, total 21
10th +15 = 36
12th +20 = 56
14th +20 = 86
and so forth.
Now as we start reaching point where ROI takes 11 months, miners suddenly stop purchasing and hoarding, which leads to prices raising as more miners are hoarding, if some major event happens then with several month lead time BTC price will hike and all the miners suddenly sell their BTC and purchase a lot of new equipment, just like what happened lately.
Therefore, as long as BFL is shipping they are getting ever increasing revenue.
The true winner again is the one selling shovels, not digging the gold.
All of this lets me conclude that Dogie has a vested interest in Avalon, Bitfury, KNC or ASICMINER. Probably ASICMINER, and he is trying to guard his investment by spreading FUD and trying to get people to run at BFL at the very last possible moment.
You forget just one thing, BFL likely has in their war chest few thousand BTCs alone, which easily pays the current salaries for some months and the components for next several wafers completion and as per T&C refunds are not guaranteed, even if suddenly 15% asked refund today, they'd probably honor 5% and then stop and keep on shipping.
Nice try troll, but no luck. I think i'll go buy another few 50G units now, ty very much.
So much shit in here its not even possible to go through it all. I couldn't give a shit if BFL shipped 3000000000000 chips tomorrow or Avalon decided to mine themselves. Its a shit company who is laughing so hard at anyone with a preorder. If you ordered from Newegg and they offered you a money printing machine, and said "next week", laughed at you when you questioned them, then didn't do anything for 9 months but continue to make false promises. Why do you put up with it? Because you are blinded by greed. *what if they ship my 1.5TH minirig tomorrow, what if what if what if* BFL will have a documentary about then im a few years, and you'll all be referred to as victims xD |
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why you dont ask your money back
I don't have any money to ask for, but I could try  To be honest you've already shown how one man could potentially take them down:
BFL would undoubtedly get bukaki'ed by government agencies if an investigation was to occur. Assets frozen etc
BFL would get spit roasted if the FCC found they were selling these uncertified products, even if it is just $7000 worth in 9 months LOL
Why dont you just report them to said agencies, watch the run on the bank as it comes out that everyone's money thats tied up has been frozen and under investigation, there would be charge backs on cards done on mass.
Because I'm not a US citizen. I did actually look at the FCC reporting a few months ago just for luls and I think you have to call a US number? No you don't, although if you wanted to exert more pressure a phone call and hand written letter sent by registered post would prob raise more eyebrows. Almost certainly it requires efforts of those on this forum... http://www.fcc.gov/complaintsAlso this would be helpful for you to read: http://www.bureauveritas.com/wps/wcm/connect/bv_com/Group/Home/About-Us/Our-Business/Our-Business-Consumer-Products/Resources/Frequently+Asked+Questions/FCCI think you would need to knock heads and create some congruency as to where you agree the fault lies and what you are complaining about exactly... Ah that was it. Yeah when you follow it through it just gets more and more bullshit. Even the first category, what on earth do you select. Don't know mate, that's for you to mutually agree on with those considering. Perhaps of you knock heads with those vocally disenchanted Butterfly Labs opponents then you could determine a more pragmatic solution and post a walk through for all concerned? That would be more eventful than a forum thread expressing disdain and not really going anywhere. Otherwise all these negative Butterfly Labs threads are nothing but hot air!!! I thought you were a millionaire at 13, surely you must be able to apply some logic to this... Walk the talk. Misinterpretation OP. |
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why you dont ask your money back
I don't have any money to ask for, but I could try To be honest you've already shown how one man could potentially take them down:
BFL would undoubtedly get bukaki'ed by government agencies if an investigation was to occur. Assets frozen etc
BFL would get spit roasted if the FCC found they were selling these uncertified products, even if it is just $7000 worth in 9 months LOL
Why dont you just report them to said agencies, watch the run on the bank as it comes out that everyone's money thats tied up has been frozen and under investigation, there would be charge backs on cards done on mass.
Because I'm not a US citizen. I did actually look at the FCC reporting a few months ago just for luls and I think you have to call a US number? No you don't, although if you wanted to exert more pressure a phone call and hand written letter sent by registered post would prob raise more eyebrows. Almost certainly it requires efforts of those on this forum... http://www.fcc.gov/complaintsAlso this would be helpful for you to read: http://www.bureauveritas.com/wps/wcm/connect/bv_com/Group/Home/About-Us/Our-Business/Our-Business-Consumer-Products/Resources/Frequently+Asked+Questions/FCCI think you would need to knock heads and create some congruency as to where you agree the fault lies and what you are complaining about exactly... Ah that was it. Yeah when you follow it through it just gets more and more bullshit. Even the first category, what on earth do you select. |
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I always remove useless plastic and fans and removing back plate sometimes helps to cool down cards.
Any high performance 2x120mm fans always better.
No, no, no! The casing is there for a reason, it directs airflow. Its like having a girl lick your generic crotch area, she can lick all she wants but its not going to do much. And the backplate, why on earth would you remove that? = slight cooling, but more importantly keeps the contact good and the card straight. |
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1 1K5YnnLhvvgJAejqSxeaSP7tTDya54Cphu 1.399
Please refund.
Has there been a compelling personal crisis? Bids are not retractable. Perhaps you will be outbid. Because I'm not going to win, I have other uses for the funds and this will/is taking forever! I have debt repayment schedules to meet and I'm having to topup with Fiat I shouldn't be touching. |
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To be honest you've already shown how one man could potentially take them down:
BFL would undoubtedly get bukaki'ed by government agencies if an investigation was to occur. Assets frozen etc
BFL would get spit roasted if the FCC found they were selling these uncertified products, even if it is just $7000 worth in 9 months LOL
Why dont you just report them to said agencies, watch the run on the bank as it comes out that everyone's money thats tied up has been frozen and under investigation, there would be charge backs on cards done on mass.
Because I'm not a US citizen. I did actually look at the FCC reporting a few months ago just for luls and I think you have to call a US number? |
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Sorry was busy.
Lots of 9800GTs, 9600GTs, 2600 Pros, 8400GLs, 8400GSes (maybe), 6800XTs (maybe), lots of RAM (ie KINGSTON HYPERX PC8500 DDR2 1066 2GB 2 x 1GB RAM MEMORY). Lots of branded Scythe/TTake stuff, some of it EOL so its the only stock left in the UK.
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EDIT 30000: Also taking offers for parted blades have a few already by PM. These will only be actioned if the entire blade set is not sold successfully.
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5 blades (no pipes, no other fancy things) for 19k$ cash in front of your parents.
5 blades (no pipes, no other fancy things) for 19k$ cash in front of your parents.
@158btc, no thanks. |
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Nice setup, 270 BTC for 5 blades is more than ordering directly from friedcat. Perhaps you want to drop the minimum to get some bids going.
Friedcat has an additional 4-5 day leadtime assuming he responds immediately, which he doesnt. Thats 12.5 of mining revenue right there. My blades to UK or EU won't have any customs costs or risk they get held up. His will. My blades include a prewired PSU worth 1btc My blades inc 1.5btc of fans My blades inc 0.8btc of other hardware My blades inc a mounting system, probably the hardest thing to do for these blades. Remember several in hand Avalons (same hash rate) have closed for 325-375 only this week. You're right though, lets get it moving. New start price 250, minimum increments 5 until 275 at which point back to 0.5. |
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FML keep forgetting you can't edit in here:
Auction will end Monday 10th @ 11pm GMT+1. I may withdraw the blades from sale or accept PM offers. I don't particularly want to do either but needs may arise. Bids may extend the end time, will see how it goes.
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Could it be certain subforums like auctions can't edit OP? It seems to make them pretty cumbersome, maybe we could make it so you can only add a supplement below, like this:
Edit 1: Boobs now included
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