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8121  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: November 29, 2021, 03:43:06 PM
So why don't we here more about antiviral treatment. Vs vaccines.

Isn't it obvious?

Because antiviral is cheap (in some parts of the world, nearly free), excellent safety track record, and highly effective against CV19.

This was never about health. It's about money.

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Ivermectin is an FDA-approved broad-spectrum antiparasitic agent with demonstrated antiviral activity against a number of DNA and RNA viruses, including severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2).

Actually I hope you are correct. My fear is this is a way to mark people.

Ie most modern countries now have a list of vaxer and antivaxer

Much like other data bases here in the USA

so say 200 million over 18 could get a vax
and say 140 million did vax.
with 60 million not vaxing.

you are now on the list one way or the other.
that list is being kept.

My greatest fear is what is going to be done with that piece of info.

If I were a supervillain I now know all the resisters (ie anti vaxers) so as a supervillian I know the name of everyone that choose to resist.

Most supervillians do not like resisters  so I fear for all those that choose not to vax.

Now a new variant a new booster shot.

and down the road covid -25 comes out and it is the real deal 30% death rate for the resisting anti vaxers.

I would be willing to bet more anti vaxers own guns more pro vaxers do not own guns. another reason to waste anti vaxers.  Sad but true I have relatives and friends that are antivaxers most think people in charge will respecting them for having the balls to stand up to the "man"

Frankly I think people in charge fear the resisters and are planning to kill them bigly.

Mind you I am 64 not likely to live more than 30 years into the future. So I may not live to see this all implode.

I only hope that this is not a plan to kill 20 or 30 million resisters here in the USA.

Good luck to all.
8122  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: November 29, 2021, 01:03:00 PM
Just to put things in perspective:

My first cousin — Deeply religious, anti-vaxxer, unvaccinated.
Her brother (and my first cousin) — Deeply religious, anti-vaxxer, unvaccinated.
Her husband — Atheist, pro-vaxxer, vaccinated (Pfizer).
Her father (my uncle) — Very old, not allowed to get vaccinated by his son and daughter.

  • Father has a stroke (about 2 weeks ago). Goes to hospital. Gets stabilized, condition improves.
  • Daughter gets infected with COVID-19 from infected patient inside the hospital.
  • Daughter infects father.
  • Daughter infects husband.
  • Father goes to intensive care unit and dies a few days later of COVID-19 complications (in the lungs).
  • Daughter and husband are currently isolated at home.
  • Daughter (unvaccinated) is suffering from severe symptoms (high fever, breathing problems, severe coughing).
  • Daughter is constantly crying and wants to end her life, for not protecting her father.
  • Daughter admits it was wrong not to trust vaccines, and urges friends and colleagues to get vaccinated ASAP.
  • Husband (vaccinated), has no symptoms at all, and is in fact enjoying his sick-leave.

Does someone close to us have to die, in order to realize the seriousness of the situation?
Does it have to happen to someone we know and love?

Just think about it for a minute.


Real case, happening to some of my dearest relatives.
My 2 sats worth. Take it as you will.

Basically pretty much what happened to my wife's family.

Most of us went to a party Nov 2019 over 100 people 30 that came from Italy to USA for the Party.

50 people got it. Everyone survived. But 4 in hospitals for weeks one on a ventilator for 28 days.

My wife had 2 visits to hospital in 2020. So now we are in 2021 many of those 100 are religious and choose not to vax. So finally 1 cousin got it second time Delta version and she is dead.

 So yeah it is real and it kills. When my wife was in the hospital in New Jersey in Jan 2020 the hospital had 210 of 280 beds with flu-like pneumonia . Nurse were coughing and told us they never saw this many people in for lung /flu issues.

 My wife could not clear her fever from Jan 1 to March 10 2020 it would reoccur and she had a heartbeat of 110-120 vs 75.  Found a cowboy doctor she gave my wife Valtrex an antiviral for shingles boom fever gone and never came back.




The best death rate in USA is in Vermont.  A very gay state with a lot of people with aids. They take an anti viral .

So why don't we here more about antiviral treatment. Vs vaccines.

Top two states are the 2 gayest states and take the most aids meds  and they have best death rate.

 651 per million Vermont
 719 per million Hawaii

So why isn't making anti viral a top priority vs vaxxing?

chart was pull from link I choose list by death rate.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/






1   Vermont   48,120      406      39,420   8,294   77,117____651 ----   2,524,389   4,045,567   623,989   [1]    [projections]
2   Hawaii   87,514      1,018      N/A   N/A....   61,809_____719-----   2,715,043   1,917,577   1,415,872   [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]    [projections]




3   Maine   118,489      1,303      N/A   N/A   88,148   969   3,798,791   2,826,036   1,344,212   [1] [2]    [projections]
4   Utah   592,130      3,487      556,649   31,994   184,697   1,088   7,195,916   2,244,545   3,205,958   [1] [2] [3]    [projections]
5   Alaska   144,073      840      106,848   36,385   196,943   1,148   3,502,446   4,787,738   731,545   [1]    [projections]
6   Oregon   387,485      5,116      338,607   43,762   91,870   1,213   7,999,746   1,896,692   4,217,737   [1] [2] [3]    [projections]
7   Washington   771,525      9,261      326,725   435,539   101,318   1,216   9,842,443   1,292,525   7,614,893   [view by county] [1]    [projections]
8   New Hampshire   155,711      1,683      145,980   8,048   114,518   1,238   3,475,788   2,556,270   1,359,711   [1] [2] [3]    [projections]
9   Nebraska   305,358      3,132      N/A   N/A   157,856   1,619   4,145,406   2,142,984   1,934,408   [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]    [projections]
10   Colorado   821,859      9,391      604,071   208,397   142,715   1,631   13,021,596   2,261,190   5,758,736   [1] [2]    [projections]
11   Minnesota   885,156      9,462      851,607   24,087   156,953   1,678   14,719,856   2,610,074   5,639,632   [1] [2] [3]    [projections]
12   District Of Columbia   66,510      1,196      N/A   N/A   94,240   1,695   2,378,887   3,370,727   705,749   [1] [2]
8123  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hosts are dropping like flies... or at least dropping me on: November 29, 2021, 12:29:25 PM
We could host a few s17's (3 or 4)  at our place.  For the winter it would be easy enough. Say til April 1. Or may 1.  After that it gets hot.
What did you pay 8 cents?  We have dead s17 gear that needs repair maybe we can do a deal of some kind.
8124  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New s9 upgrade thread. Some info is 🆙❤⚡ on: November 29, 2021, 02:56:14 AM
Phill. Can you check in with these guys? Are they still selling? Did they change the moq and price? I lost thier contant.

hell i can look but we have not spoken via email in over a year.

it will take me time. maybe tomorrow night.
8125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 100% fan speed RTX 3080 ? on: November 29, 2021, 01:49:00 AM
The high fan speed is not the problem, the heat causing the high speed is.
You need to improve heat dissipation and make some noise with large fans.
Or detune the GPU and lose performance.

he is not getting performance he is simply killing his gpu.

at op

lower the memory clock

lower the power setting

get the 108c to drop under 99c  

work at that and get back to us.

Set the power to 225 or 230 not 250

set the ram to 1000 not 1300

see what happens
8126  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: November 29, 2021, 01:18:28 AM
I know but it looked cool 😎 -50% is impressive.

8127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 29, 2021, 01:08:03 AM
when 70k? Grin

dec 6 20:00 🕗  EST

I pick up my 0.077 thanks to the duderino

 Grin
8128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Summer dip?!, December price outcome? ---> JOIN and guess the price GO! on: November 28, 2021, 09:14:55 PM
We closing in on the DATE....

WHo's the favo Huh??

we are at 55k

so -15 to +15 is

40k to 70k

looks to be most likely range.

I will narrow it a bit later this week.
8129  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS/USA Two ASUS STRIX GTX1080ti] on: November 28, 2021, 07:25:00 PM
Yeah I will do escrow for these. I spoke to op via pm.
8130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 28, 2021, 12:52:37 PM
Something is up


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https://www.bitrawr.com/difficulty-estimator


Latest Block:   711654  (12 minutes ago)

Current Pace:   47.4676%  (7 / 14.75 expected, 7.75 behind)

Previous Difficulty:   22674148233453.11                            
Current Difficulty:   22335659268936.39                            
Next Difficulty:   between 11303551648240 and 22185553733226

Next Difficulty Change:   between -49.3924% and -0.6720%

Previous Retarget:   Today at 5:20 AM  (-1.4928%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   December 12, 2021 at 7:55 AM  (in 14d 0h 7m 12s)
Next Retarget (latest):   December 27, 2021 at 5:12 PM  (in 29d 9h 23m 36s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 14d 2h 34m 40s and 29d 11h 51m 4s




-50% is wild and if it continues it can be an indicator of a large price drop to come.

BTW this pattern does not match 2017-2018  so maybe things are different.

If it means we meander about in 2022  much like 2021 it works for me.

Of course we are just starting and it could be freak luck.
8131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Summer dip?!, December price outcome? ---> JOIN and guess the price GO! on: November 27, 2021, 10:25:34 PM
The last time BTC went up 10x was from the March 2020 lows to the beginning of this year. It took about 9 months, but the March 2020 lows were only that low due to a crash that caused the price to decline (and quickly mostly recover) by around 50-60% in a matter of days. If you remove that few-day window when BTC was trading in the $3k range, it took almost two years for bitcoin to trade below $6k (may 2019) until it hit $60k (March 2021).

I don't think bitcoin has gone down 90% from any peak in the last 5 years, but it has gone down by a lot. As mentioned, it went down from just under $9k to the mid $3k range in March 2020. It went down ~45% from May to June of this year. It went down around 55% from December '18 to February '19 (it bottomed out in December '18 being down ~85% from the previous peak).

If you lower the threshold to going up 5x, bitcoin last did that from September '20 to February of this year (5 months). It previously went up 5x from August '17 to December '17 (5 months).

There have obviously been plenty of 2x increases, and 50% drops over the past 5 years. In general, I think a lot of the drops tend to be swift, although often it will take some time for the bottom to be reached. On the other hand, at the end of week 1 of a massive uptick in price, we have generally not yet seen the local high.

When this thread was opened, BTC was trading in the ~$31k range. I don't think it would have been crazy to say the price would go up 5x from the date the thread opened to when the contest ends.



The contest is far from over. There are things happening in financial markets right now that make me believe that we will see a lot of volatility in the coming weeks. I would not be surprised to see bitcoin go up 2-3x from local lows, nor would I be surprised to see a massive drop in the price. The question remains however where the local low is going to be located.


this contest is over 69420 on the 7th. And I will be smiling as I collect.

Seriously i still think anyone from 40k to 80k can win.

But lower or higher is a real long shot.

I still am in striking range with my 70k, but not a real favorite. I guess 50k to 65k are more likely to win now that time is running down.

to be clear DEC 7 2021  00.00 CET is

Dec 6 2021 18.00 EST ?
8132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 27, 2021, 08:27:14 PM
Chances of a recovery or even a relief rally in the next week?

What do you think boys?

Surely the Friday sell off which coincided with some new bull shit covid variant breaking news & Black Friday, correlation with stocks dumping also, we will see some green soon?

What do you think?

$66,666 Dec 7th. Grin

i hope you are right but 69420 would be better
8133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 27, 2021, 08:12:38 PM
Chances of a recovery or even a relief rally in the next week?

What do you think boys?

Surely the Friday sell off which coincided with some new bull shit covid variant breaking news & Black Friday, correlation with stocks dumping also, we will see some green soon?

What do you think?

yes yes yes.
8134  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: November 27, 2021, 05:23:26 PM
The pace is picking up again, 149 blocks in the last 24 hours, but there is no way we can get back into positive, it needs 105 blocks mined instead of 86 left, so 17% speed for the finish. Probably the last drop of the year, I don't see even a flat period coming next unless something like this shutdown in Kazakhstan  gets amplified all over the country.

Oh, and I got my new electricity bill (for my home) which reminded me that starting January the tariffs will be 15.5/17.5 cents (euro/usd)/kwh before tax and others, so the final bill will be around 21 eurocents per kwh, plus 8 euros for the plan itself. I don't see anyone home mining at these rates around here.

yeah 30 cents a euro is very expensive.

here in USA NJ i am 13 cents winter and 17 cents summer

figure the heat lowers the winter to 10 cents

and raises the summer to 19 cents

I am running a mix of gear in the home.

sidehack stick
appollo miner
a s9
and a lot of gpus.

maybe 3kwatts of gear an hour.



The pace is picking up again, 149 blocks in the last 24 hours, but there is no way we can get back into positive, it needs 105 blocks mined instead of 86 left, so 17% speed for the finish. Probably the last drop of the year, I don't see even a flat period coming next unless something like this shutdown in Kazakhstan  gets amplified all over the country.

Oh, and I got my new electricity bill (for my home) which reminded me that starting January the tariffs will be 15.5/17.5 cents (euro/usd)/kwh before tax and others, so the final bill will be around 21 eurocents per kwh, plus 8 euros for the plan itself. I don't see anyone home mining at these rates around here.

yeah 30 cents a euro is very expensive.

here in USA NJ i am 13 cents winter and 17 cents summer

figure the heat lowers the winter to 10 cents

and raises the summer to 19 cents

I am running a mix of gear in the home.

sidehack stick
appollo miner
a s9
and a lot of gpus.

maybe 3kwatts of gear an hour.


So -1.5%

but now something is up.


Quote
https://www.bitrawr.com/difficulty-estimator

Latest Block:   711654  (12 minutes ago)
Current Pace:   47.4676%  (7 / 14.75 expected, 7.75 behind)
Previous Difficulty:   22674148233453.11                           
Current Difficulty:   22335659268936.39                           
Next Difficulty:   between 11303551648240 and 22185553733226

Next Difficulty Change:   between -49.3924% and -0.6720%

Previous Retarget:   Today at 5:20 AM  (-1.4928%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   December 12, 2021 at 7:55 AM  (in 14d 0h 7m 12s)
Next Retarget (latest):   December 27, 2021 at 5:12 PM  (in 29d 9h 23m 36s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 14d 2h 34m 40s and 29d 11h 51m 4s



lets hope this is variance as -50% is crazy

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8135  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Looks like some of the big pools in china are having DNS problems on: November 27, 2021, 01:59:48 PM
To me, this was the gov adding blocks to the GFW, this took them by "surprise" and they just scrambled to change dns.

As you know, when you change the dns of your server/website whatever, it can take a couple of days to propagate to the whole internet. There is dns caching and dns servers asking other dns servers, etc. To some the change is quick, to some it takes longer as it has always been.

But why did these Chinese pools took so long to do this change, why wait until their gov cut them? Its not like they didn't know this was coming, and its one reason Slush Pool dropped the Chinese nodes at least half a year ago.

This was also a good call on people relying too much in Chinese pools, they ignored decentralization, and paid the price.

And worse yet it shows that any pow coin of any type can be attacked at the government level by major countries.

So the fall out is interesting.

I think a lot has to do with China and USA trade war.

ie Trump tax is now Biden tax and imports from China are still being hurt bigly.

China is trying to figure ways to fight against that trade tariff.
8136  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: November 27, 2021, 01:11:30 PM
Well we are closing in on next jump

Quote
https://www.bitrawr.com/difficulty-estimator

Latest Block:   711534  (8 minutes ago)

Current Pace:   99.0488%  (1903 / 1921.27 expected, 18.27 behind)

Previous Difficulty:   21659344833264.85                            
Current Difficulty:   22674148233453.11                            
Next Difficulty:   between 22479793018588 and 22480398422262
Next Difficulty Change:   between -0.8572% and -0.8545%
Previous Retarget:   November 13, 2021 at 11:57 PM  (+4.6853%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   Tomorrow at 3:10 AM  (in 0d 19h 0m 14s)
Next Retarget (latest):   Tomorrow at 3:10 AM  (in 0d 19h 0m 51s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 14d 3h 12m 59s and 14d 3h 13m 35s



just about -1%

So in my case I should earn more sats next jump than last jump.

my cost of power is a fixed constant 1/2 the coins go to the host.

In good times like now the host does better. In tight times I do better.

If I only have s9's it is to my advantage
If I had all s19 pro's it would be to the hosts advantage

I have a mix of gear and kind of blend that advantage to neutral.
8137  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Looks like some of the big pools in china are having DNS problems on: November 27, 2021, 01:08:19 PM
To follow up

I had maybe 100 different pieces of gear pointed to them.

around 11 dropped off.

I have another issue in that the anydesk I use to run the btc and LTC asic is down so I will need to drive the 150 mile round  trip to fix those miners they are idle.

The other 89 just ran with no issues.
8138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 26, 2021, 11:38:17 PM
Got some more dip.


 Looks like a new world wide variant will finally get the death numbers they want.



To all stack your sats and try to survive. If you can do both the world will be somewhat brighter and nicer for you in 2-3 years.
8139  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Looks like some of the big pools in china are having DNS problems on: November 26, 2021, 09:02:18 PM
Got this from ViaBtc a few hours ago:

Quote
Dear ViaBTC users,
Recently, due to the impact of DNS pollution, some of the users in certain regions experienced abnormal resolution of the ViaBTC domain name (www.viabtc.com) and were unable to access the website properly. After emergency maintenance, ViaBTC has activated a new domain name (www.viabtc.net). If you have ever encountered the above situation, please use the new domain name to visit the website.

DNS pollution as in spoofing?

Poolin and F2pool were reachable at noon (GMT), viabtc.com was off, can't test .net for a while to see if it works.

I can get to the viabtc.net site, looks same as the old one.    I did not try to log in, waiting for someone braver to do that.

 But when I replace .com with .net in my miners, I still get unresolved host.

I signed into the .net site

may be legit

I will attempt to withdraw to coinex



Got this from ViaBtc a few hours ago:

Quote
Dear ViaBTC users,
Recently, due to the impact of DNS pollution, some of the users in certain regions experienced abnormal resolution of the ViaBTC domain name (www.viabtc.com) and were unable to access the website properly. After emergency maintenance, ViaBTC has activated a new domain name (www.viabtc.net). If you have ever encountered the above situation, please use the new domain name to visit the website.

DNS pollution as in spoofing?

Poolin and F2pool were reachable at noon (GMT), viabtc.com was off, can't test .net for a while to see if it works.

I can get to the viabtc.net site, looks same as the old one.    I did not try to log in, waiting for someone braver to do that.

 But when I replace .com with .net in my miners, I still get unresolved host.

I signed into the .net site

may be legit

I will attempt to withdraw to coinex

I was able to make a with drawl to coinex so I think it may be good.

do so at your own risk

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8140  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: November 26, 2021, 07:04:10 PM

This is more good news makes stacking sats easier to do.

uppity is when it is hard to stack sats.

But doesn't lower BTC price means BTC denominated electricity gets more expensive?

Well only if diff stays flat or raises.
example below with round numbers

Start with
100 dollar price diff of 100

90 dollar price diff of 10 = higher power cost per BTC earned
90 dollar price diff of   9 = flat power cost per BTC earned
90 dollar price diff of 8   = lower power cost per BTC earned


the third case happened this year Diff dropped way more than price

So earning BTC via mining was better in say August when btc was 39k than April when btc first topped 60k


39k price and 14.4 diff in August = better than 62k price 25.05 diff in April
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